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Wed Aug-03-11 10:57 PM
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| 29. Yep! And back then one had to really try hard not to have a job. Back then if you |
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lost your job it was generally due to the fact you really F'ed up. There was a lot of disgrace back then with losing a job. Employers really cared about you for the most part.
In the corps. I worked in I recall going to meeting after meeting where they told you how valued you were. In one company where I worked you could not be let go after 10 years without your manager and director explaining to the president of the company how you could be a 10 year employee and let go. His goal was to see if your manager and director should be let go instead. And that was true at all levels, right down to the lowest level job in the company, and it was not even a union company. Once hired, they wanted you for your whole career.
I worked at several companies like that.
I also felt good about the country back then. Sure, sometimes it was really F'ed up, but I felt it was a solid country, that we would make it better and better.
Anyway, just a couple examples above... but anymore I feel all of that has gone away, I don't feel the stability anymore, I don't feel we are all pulling together. Anymore it's just a damn uncomfortable feeling.
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| -We need a challenger from the left at this point in history. |
mmonk |
Aug-03-11 10:10 PM |
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Will you vote for the Democratic Party's incumbent President Barack Obama in 2012? |
ClarkUSA |
Aug-03-11 10:14 PM |
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You bet. Who would you suggest? Romney, Bachmann or maybe Perry, if he runs? |
demosincebirth |
Aug-03-11 10:30 PM |
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And who should this challenger be? |
MrScorpio |
Aug-03-11 10:14 PM |
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I think Gore should run. |
Skink |
Aug-03-11 10:23 PM |
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Gore is a loser That bowed down to Baby Bush in 2000. I want someone willing to fight not |
rhett o rick |
Aug-03-11 11:40 PM |
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Gore won the Florida Supreme Court case |
Art_from_Ark |
Aug-04-11 12:39 AM |
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We have to draw the line somewhere. That would have been a great |
rhett o rick |
Aug-04-11 08:56 AM |
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Dup |
rhett o rick |
Aug-04-11 08:56 AM |
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Gore picked Lieberman as his running-mate. |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-04-11 05:25 PM |
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It doesn't matter. There needs one for representative purposes if nothing else. |
mmonk |
Aug-04-11 06:55 AM |
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Bernie Sanders for President in 2012 |
UnrepentantLiberal |
Aug-05-11 09:18 PM |
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There is a significant loss of generational memory in this country. I'm starting |
RKP5637 |
Aug-03-11 10:15 PM |
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This is probably the most astute post on this site currently. |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-03-11 10:28 PM |
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I think a lot of younger people are focused on "win at all cost" |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 10:40 PM |
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+1000 |
MissDeeds |
Aug-04-11 07:17 AM |
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i`m 64 and i tell my kids about the 60`s and 70`s.... |
madrchsod |
Aug-03-11 10:32 PM |
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Yep! And back then one had to really try hard not to have a job. Back then if you |
RKP5637 |
Aug-03-11 10:57 PM |
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Please make this an OP. |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-03-11 10:42 PM |
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OK, I will. Glad you liked it ... n/t |
RKP5637 |
Aug-03-11 10:58 PM |
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I agree. |
mmonk |
Aug-03-11 10:58 PM |
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I know. My grandfather always talked about the good old days |
Number23 |
Aug-04-11 12:28 AM |
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This is really the saddest part of these good ol' day threads |
tammywammy |
Aug-04-11 07:23 AM |
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My concern was not of good old days being better, but rather that |
RKP5637 |
Aug-04-11 08:51 AM |
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I agree |
Number23 |
Aug-04-11 04:40 PM |
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I was thinking more of the 60's and 70's when we were climbing out of |
RKP5637 |
Aug-04-11 07:53 AM |
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My mother was born in the early 1950s |
Number23 |
Aug-04-11 04:44 PM |
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I certainly hope you are not putting me in that category of some old |
RKP5637 |
Aug-04-11 05:03 PM |
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I'm not making this a racial issue |
Number23 |
Aug-04-11 06:18 PM |
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I lived through it so it's not unfamiliar to me. Thanks for getting back and |
RKP5637 |
Aug-04-11 06:40 PM |
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Thank you. |
Empowerer |
Aug-05-11 09:17 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Aug-03-11 10:19 PM |
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We do, but I wouldn't put money on it happening. |
Forkboy |
Aug-03-11 10:20 PM |
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The thing about the Tea Klan destabilizing the government is |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 10:43 PM |
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I would certainly welcome more shaking. |
Forkboy |
Aug-03-11 10:44 PM |
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Or would you rather have someone who can actually win?? |
cbdo2007 |
Aug-03-11 10:22 PM |
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Win what exactly? We're in reverse throttle. |
mmonk |
Aug-04-11 07:30 AM |
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So....would you say we are more conservative or more liberal as a whole.... |
cbdo2007 |
Aug-04-11 08:40 AM |
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Breaking it down |
SOS |
Aug-04-11 09:55 AM |
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I'm voting for the Democratic President Barack Obama. |
jaxx |
Aug-03-11 10:22 PM |
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Goody for you. You like where we are today I assume. nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-03-11 10:39 PM |
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I like it a whole lot better than where we were in 2008. |
jaxx |
Aug-03-11 10:49 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-03-11 11:35 PM |
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I will not. Not the guy who is sacrificing |
Jack Sprat |
Aug-03-11 10:45 PM |
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What was sacrificed? |
jaxx |
Aug-03-11 10:53 PM |
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I'm not a believer anymore. |
Jack Sprat |
Aug-03-11 11:15 PM |
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Oh hell yes the pubs will come back for more. |
jaxx |
Aug-03-11 11:29 PM |
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Well okay then. n/t |
Jack Sprat |
Aug-03-11 11:46 PM |
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let`s face the facts...the party is`t obama`s it`s ours |
madrchsod |
Aug-03-11 10:24 PM |
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k & r |
girl gone mad |
Aug-03-11 10:31 PM |
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How would anyone further left get what they want passed by this congress? nt |
killbotfactory |
Aug-03-11 10:33 PM |
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So you are ok with where we are today? Or are you willing to fight? You decide. nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-03-11 10:38 PM |
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I am not okay with a lot of things, but that hardly changes anything. nt |
killbotfactory |
Aug-03-11 11:25 PM |
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No it means a lot. Are you willing to fight, or go willingly into the gas chambers? nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-03-11 11:37 PM |
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Obama's building gas chambers now? |
MilesColtrane |
Aug-03-11 11:59 PM |
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So are you going to wait until someone does? nm |
rhett o rick |
Aug-04-11 10:22 AM |
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Absolutely we do. Agree with you. |
Jack Sprat |
Aug-03-11 10:35 PM |
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Yeah cuz that worked SO well when Kennedy primaried Carter |
Turn CO Blue |
Aug-03-11 10:46 PM |
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You're looking at one election. The OP is looking at our future. |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 10:49 PM |
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Iran hostage crisis? Magically resolved on the day Reagan was sworn in? |
gkhouston |
Aug-03-11 11:04 PM |
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SAD |
Mr Dixon |
Aug-04-11 08:07 AM |
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Carter was worth keeping |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-04-11 05:27 PM |
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So you recommend to just stick it out as the ship sinks? Is there ever a time |
rhett o rick |
Aug-05-11 09:11 PM |
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Congress folks... focus... Congress |
stklurker |
Aug-03-11 10:49 PM |
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The House will now be HARDER to take back because |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 10:52 PM |
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selling point |
stklurker |
Aug-03-11 11:03 PM |
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How do you sell the big 3 when Obama went out of his way |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 11:08 PM |
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He said no benefit cuts. |
jaxx |
Aug-03-11 11:34 PM |
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I'm sorry but I'm not stupid enough to believe cuts to providers |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 11:38 PM |
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That's your problem, not mine. |
jaxx |
Aug-03-11 11:40 PM |
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Not at all. It's very much your problem and your family's problem |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 11:59 PM |
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Facts: |
jaxx |
Aug-04-11 12:11 AM |
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When Obama announced he was willing to carve up SS and Medicare |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-03-11 10:58 PM |
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I think that's right. I imagine myself at somebody's door |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 11:02 PM |
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I fear that the local Dems are going to feel the blowback of this more |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-03-11 11:07 PM |
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Yes, because cuts in federal funding to the states will be felt |
EFerrari |
Aug-03-11 11:10 PM |
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My local Dem -- at the state House -- is pushing cuts as well. |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-04-11 05:29 PM |
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Congress and Obama |
stklurker |
Aug-03-11 11:05 PM |
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Name some potential "left" candidates..... |
BillyJack |
Aug-03-11 11:14 PM |
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Anyone. The point is to fight back while we can. |
mmonk |
Aug-04-11 07:31 AM |
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dig up goldwater |
upi402 |
Aug-03-11 11:30 PM |
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How about kpete and/or madfloridian? How much would it cost to put them on the ballot? |
grahamhgreen |
Aug-04-11 12:41 AM |
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yep. |
nashville_brook |
Aug-04-11 06:45 AM |
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Where did you grow up? |
JoePhilly |
Aug-04-11 06:56 AM |
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I grew up in the generation that desgregated schools, produced low income housing, |
mmonk |
Aug-04-11 07:43 AM |
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I would like to see Allan Grayson take on Obama in the primary. |
Ganja Ninja |
Aug-04-11 07:07 AM |
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The guy who couldn't keep his own House seat? |
Recursion |
Aug-04-11 08:58 AM |
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Do not bring facts to this thread....n/t |
msanthrope |
Aug-04-11 10:35 AM |
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K&R |
MissDeeds |
Aug-04-11 07:11 AM |
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Dissatisfied Democrats are to Obama's right, for the most part |
Recursion |
Aug-04-11 08:57 AM |
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HUH??? Where do you get that? Dissatisfied Democrats are to Obama's right??? |
Raksha |
Aug-04-11 05:38 PM |
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There is already someone running: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-04-11 10:40 AM |
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No, you need a Democratic House |
treestar |
Aug-04-11 11:26 AM |
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Sorry. We must have just imagined Obama's glorious "deal-making" these past weeks. |
Maven |
Aug-04-11 12:21 PM |
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What do you mean? |
treestar |
Aug-04-11 12:46 PM |
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Nonsense. He made plenty of "deals" with PhRMA/Big Insurance behind closed doors |
Maven |
Aug-04-11 12:51 PM |
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desperately so |
amborin |
Aug-04-11 05:25 PM |
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Strong K&R nt |
woo me with science |
Aug-04-11 05:28 PM |
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It makes no sense to you b/c you see only what you want to see |
Fire1 |
Aug-04-11 05:35 PM |
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A possible scenario if Obama is primaried: |
Martin Eden |
Aug-04-11 06:08 PM |
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yes |
StarsInHerHair |
Aug-05-11 10:04 PM |
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