LiberalLoner
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Wed Aug-03-11 03:37 PM
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| 6. Here is the way I see it: |
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The generation that were grownups during the great depression understood very well why unions were important and why the common good, rather than greed, was to be revered.
Their children rebelled. Children often do rebel. Each generation rebels against their parents.
My grandmother was from that first generation. She was very much a liberal and a Democrat and believed in unions.
My father was her child. He rebelled against the idea of unions, the idea of the common good, even against the idea of marriage and being a decent member of society.
My father's generation has voted right-wing ever since they were young adults. (Not every single one of them, but ENOUGH of them.) When my grandmother's generation largely died off, my father's generation took over.
Now, 30 years later, another big change is about to happen. My father's generation (he is in his late 70's now) is getting close to dying. The generations following his are generally more liberal as a whole.
So the plutocracy is pushing for all of it while they still can. Trying to establish the dictatorship, before all of my father's generation dies off and they lack the electoral numbers.
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| -I've been puzzled by one thing in our recent political history.... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:31 PM |
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The Greatest Generation got lazy and greedy, and forgot that the gains they made came at great cost. |
Brickbat |
Aug-03-11 03:32 PM |
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+1 nt |
abelenkpe |
Aug-03-11 03:34 PM |
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That is too simple, albeit satisfying at a deep level |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:34 PM |
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I don't think it's any more complicated than that. |
Brickbat |
Aug-03-11 03:36 PM |
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Alas simple answers when dealing with sociology |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:38 PM |
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Well, sure -- when you take a "simple answer" that's wrong... |
Brickbat |
Aug-03-11 03:39 PM |
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That is because things usually are more complex than that, as in layered. |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:41 PM |
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Here is the way I see it: |
LiberalLoner |
Aug-03-11 03:37 PM |
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And that is Judt's thesis partially |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:40 PM |
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You've read "Ill Fares the Land"? |
hifiguy |
Aug-03-11 03:46 PM |
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Among others, doing this history of labor shtick is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:59 PM |
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I think this could be PART of the truth.... My folks were several years older but |
dissidentboomer |
Aug-03-11 03:42 PM |
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I think your story is similar to what I have observed. |
truedelphi |
Aug-03-11 03:55 PM |
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"What's the matter with Kansas?" |
Proud Public Servant |
Aug-03-11 03:35 PM |
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That is part of the puzzle |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:37 PM |
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Don't know Judt's book |
Proud Public Servant |
Aug-03-11 03:42 PM |
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Ill Fares the Land |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:43 PM |
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It was mostly racism. |
dawg |
Aug-03-11 03:38 PM |
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Another piece in puzzle. |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 03:42 PM |
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Yep. Also part of it. They were MASTERFUL at dividing us MANY different ways and people STILL fall |
dissidentboomer |
Aug-03-11 03:44 PM |
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Short Answer, Ma'am |
The Magistrate |
Aug-03-11 03:45 PM |
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Thanks and those are real good keys to the puzzle |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 04:00 PM |
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With all due respect, those are THE keys to the puzzle. |
Solomon |
Aug-03-11 06:42 PM |
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the 60s/70s psyops campaign. |
indurancevile |
Aug-03-11 04:01 PM |
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My best guess? |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-03-11 04:19 PM |
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And that is the thesis of the Fourth Turning |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 05:10 PM |
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Continually decreasing value of the dollar. |
fivepennies |
Aug-03-11 04:28 PM |
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In other words inflation but we have had that forever |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 05:09 PM |
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To hell with zeroes, |
fivepennies |
Aug-03-11 05:34 PM |
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We do, that is the T-Bill |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 05:54 PM |
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Yep, bankers have been around for around 6000 years |
fivepennies |
Aug-03-11 06:11 PM |
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Alas Clinton was well on it's way |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 06:15 PM |
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Destroying America was always the plan |
fivepennies |
Aug-03-11 06:53 PM |
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The Thirteen Colonies operated paper currency that was, in some cases, inflation free. |
Selatius |
Aug-03-11 06:31 PM |
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Yeah, that Ben Franklin guy was pretty clever. |
fivepennies |
Aug-03-11 07:02 PM |
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And it was backed up in some cases |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 07:07 PM |
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Its pretty simple actually... |
Armstead |
Aug-03-11 04:35 PM |
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Alas the last ten years have sucked just as bad |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 05:11 PM |
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Well, there is a certain sense of deja vu about the recent/current sitruation |
Armstead |
Aug-03-11 06:36 PM |
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Hey at least we do not have Disco |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-03-11 07:06 PM |
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the 1950s were no golden age. Not for women. Not for African Americans |
cali |
Aug-03-11 06:17 PM |
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