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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:01 PM
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If Obama and the Dems had promptly delivered what they promised in 2008
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then none of this shit-opalooza would be happening. Democrats would have swept the 2010 elections, and the Republicans would have been an irrelevance at this point.

We were lied to by candidates, plain and simple.

18 years of triangulation and appeasement, and here we are.
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  -If Obama and the Dems had promptly delivered what they promised in 2008 MannyGoldstein  Aug-01-11 09:01 PM   #0 
  - Pres. Obama protected SS and Medicare benefits from any cuts, contrary to your predictions.  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:04 PM   #1 
  - One of us is seriously hallucinating  MannyGoldstein   Aug-01-11 09:05 PM   #2 
  - WWMCDN?  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:07 PM   #3 
     - You're not going to shut anyone up with that childish shit.  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-02-11 12:41 PM   #40 
        - I has grown old and stale.  Enthusiast   Aug-02-11 04:52 PM   #50 
  - In the 1.5 trillion cuts discussion, EVERYTHING, including Social Security and Medicare, is on the  valerief   Aug-01-11 09:11 PM   #5 
  - Sanders, who "embraced" McConnell's proposal? He is either lying or misinformed.  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:14 PM   #6 
     - No. That is bullshit.  Zorra   Aug-01-11 10:04 PM   #23 
     - Yesterday we were hearing how much Barney Frank loved this plan  Mimosa   Aug-02-11 07:23 PM   #66 
     - Surely everyone has seen how this has played out, but how it will continue to play out  indepat   Aug-02-11 12:57 PM   #44 
     - I clicked on that link and the page was not found  hfojvt   Aug-02-11 07:32 PM   #71 
  - Too bad he put them on the table in the first place  Middle finga   Aug-01-11 09:14 PM   #7 
  - It's called rope-a-dope. Republicans got nothing they wanted here in the end, thanks to Pres. Obama.  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:19 PM   #11 
     - Oh, he roped some dopes, alright. n/t  Marr   Aug-02-11 12:57 AM   #25 
     - the only dopes he roped are the american people  noiretextatique   Aug-02-11 04:39 PM   # 
     - the only dopes he roped are the american people  noiretextatique   Aug-02-11 04:39 PM   #49 
     - Really?  laconicsax   Aug-02-11 07:15 PM   #63 
  - So looming fiscal disaster, plunging the world economy into catastrophic decline . . .  MrModerate   Aug-01-11 09:15 PM   #8 
  - Until 2013, there are no cuts. A future Democratic-controlled Congress can change policy.  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:22 PM   #16 
     - We need job creation through stimulus spending NOW. . .  MrModerate   Aug-02-11 04:50 AM   #29 
     - Replace "Playoffs" with Stimulus and watch this video....  IamK   Aug-02-11 08:58 PM   #77 
     - Oh yeah, just like when the Democrats controlled Congress 2008-2010?  Prana69   Aug-03-11 01:31 AM   #80 
  - No ..SS and Medicare is not protected.. All entitlements are on the table  INdemo   Aug-01-11 09:25 PM   #17 
  - That's a false statement. These are the facts --->  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:31 PM   #19 
     - Listen to what Bernie Sanders had to say.  INdemo   Aug-01-11 09:35 PM   #21 
     - No thanks. Sanders, who "embraced" McConnell's proposal? He's either lying or misinformed.  ClarkUSA   Aug-01-11 09:54 PM   #22 
        - McConnell's proposal??  INdemo   Aug-02-11 08:38 AM   #30 
     - What Obama said  Bandit   Aug-02-11 09:54 AM   #32 
     - You mean, the same Obama that begged Republicans for $650 b in entitlement cuts?  MannyGoldstein   Aug-02-11 10:36 AM   #33 
     - And ain't it grand that we no longer have a Democracy -  truedelphi   Aug-02-11 07:01 PM   #61 
     - "Error 404 - Page not found"  Unvanguard   Aug-02-11 12:38 PM   #37 
     - The link to the BLOG you're using as evidence is broken.  Ignis   Aug-02-11 05:04 PM   #52 
     - "Everyone chill the fuck out, I GOT THIS" is just a FUCKING INSULTING JOKE at this point  spooked911   Aug-02-11 08:37 PM   #76 
  - Did you miss Conyers saying Obama offered up SS and  davidwparker   Aug-02-11 06:47 PM   #56 
  - Google "Larry Summers" + February 2009 + reform  truedelphi   Aug-02-11 09:57 PM   #79 
  - Everything's still on the table according to the President  Mimosa   Aug-02-11 07:26 PM   #69 
  - keep campaigning manny, rock on,lol  dionysus   Aug-01-11 09:10 PM   #4 
  - Project much?  Lorien   Aug-01-11 09:15 PM   #9 
  - Agreed. It's almost as if they can't bear any position except "underdog." nt  Lorien   Aug-01-11 09:16 PM   #10 
  - Indies don't for dems like they did in 08 because  xchrom   Aug-01-11 09:20 PM   #12 
  - You are right, Manny. Even with this vote, they were saying  Ruby the Liberal   Aug-01-11 09:21 PM   #13 
  - The Dems' worst mistakes can be boiled down to acting as if they believe  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-02-11 01:08 AM   #28 
  - And how do you propose the dems could have done that without having 60 dems in the Senate?  Tx4obama   Aug-01-11 09:21 PM   #14 
  - Are you saying that Bush got nothing done?  MannyGoldstein   Aug-02-11 12:55 AM   #24 
  - Bush got things done largely because of Dems who seemed positively eager  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-02-11 01:04 AM   #27 
  - Reconciliation bills and a lot better politics  jeff47   Aug-02-11 08:45 AM   #31 
  - It would only have taken a simple majority to change the filibuster rule before  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-02-11 12:44 PM   #42 
  - They could have changed the fillibuster rules as they organized the Senate.  Tesha   Aug-02-11 01:19 PM   #46 
  - Dems need 60 votes but the tiny tea party only needs less than one half of the house  abelenkpe   Aug-02-11 07:52 PM   #72 
  - Brace yourselef..Cause it is going to get a hell-of-a-lot worse in  INdemo   Aug-01-11 09:21 PM   #15 
  - Oh, your just a truth teller Manny!! k&r  Little Star   Aug-01-11 09:25 PM   #18 
  - If only I shit gold, I'd be a millionaire.  killbotfactory   Aug-01-11 09:32 PM   #20 
  - There are people who wouldn't have cared IF everything was promptly delivered  MrScorpio   Aug-02-11 01:03 AM   #26 
  - Obama extended the wars, the only jobs he created are on Wall Street  EFerrari   Aug-02-11 12:49 PM   #43 
     - And where were the Republicans when all this happened?  MrScorpio   Aug-02-11 01:14 PM   #45 
        - Where were they? Not responsible for Obama's committments  EFerrari   Aug-02-11 01:38 PM   #47 
        - We went after them  quakerboy   Aug-02-11 07:13 PM   #62 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-02-11 12:10 PM   #34 
  - In retrospect, it seems obvious that he never intended to keep any of those promises  FiveGoodMen   Aug-02-11 12:34 PM   #35 
  - +1000  SammyWinstonJack   Aug-02-11 12:39 PM   #38 
  - What did they promise in 2008?  Unvanguard   Aug-02-11 12:36 PM   #36 
  - When I objected to his nomination,  LWolf   Aug-02-11 12:40 PM   #39 
  - All of this "coulda, woulda, shoulda" crap is useless. We are where we are. Now we must do something  Major Hogwash   Aug-02-11 12:43 PM   #41 
  - It wouldn't be useless if we were to learn from this history.  Tesha   Aug-02-11 02:09 PM   #48 
  - I think the "Democrats had their hands tied" crowd needs  MannyGoldstein   Aug-02-11 04:53 PM   #51 
  - I think people like you should look at what he was contending with.  babylonsister   Aug-02-11 07:56 PM   #73 
  - Exactly. Doesn't matter whose fault, who did what or didn't, etc. We have a mess-- need to fix it.  Hoyt   Aug-02-11 06:45 PM   #55 
  - CORRECT  Skittles   Aug-02-11 06:25 PM   #53 
  - sounds so simple.  DCBob   Aug-02-11 06:27 PM   #54 
  - I know - what was he THINKING?  Richardo   Aug-02-11 06:57 PM   #59 
  - Nogt simple -- But a lot more straightforward than its been made out to be  Armstead   Aug-02-11 07:24 PM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-02-11 06:48 PM   #57 
  - K&R  pleah   Aug-02-11 06:52 PM   #58 
  - I HATE it that you are right.  Agony   Aug-02-11 06:58 PM   #60 
  - You're right, Manny  MissDeeds   Aug-02-11 07:19 PM   #64 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Aug-02-11 07:20 PM   #65 
  - SHOULD HAVE PROSECUTED the BUSH ADMIN.  Veracious   Aug-02-11 07:24 PM   #67 
  - Exactly. Everyday on your TV for the next 4 years.  SharksBreath   Aug-02-11 08:20 PM   #75 
  - 56 days  quaker bill   Aug-02-11 07:29 PM   #70 
  - and they expect scare us to voting for them in 2012  swilton   Aug-02-11 08:14 PM   #74 
     - When Obama Plays Basketball...  RowdyRacer   Aug-02-11 08:59 PM   #78 

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