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Mon Aug-01-11 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 8. they weren't going to be extended last October either. |
| -Not so bad afterall. Good read from TPM. |
warrior1 |
Aug-01-11 12:55 PM |
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+1. nt |
seabeyond |
Aug-01-11 12:56 PM |
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Josh Marshall did not write that. In fact, his reponse was, "The fact that there are cuts?" |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:38 PM |
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Josh further states.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 03:54 PM |
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I read it and appreciate it but it has zero bearing on the point the OP was trying to make. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:56 PM |
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They didn't turn out because Obama had already let them down on Single Payer and prosecuting war |
librechik |
Aug-01-11 03:58 PM |
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The largest swing between 2008-2010 in voting demographics were independents. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 04:06 PM |
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Independents want Single Payer, not Romneycare. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-02-11 09:19 PM |
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You are starting to become my favorite poster |
Aerows |
Aug-01-11 05:36 PM |
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but...but...but.. Obama caved!!111 |
jpak |
Aug-01-11 12:57 PM |
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oh he did not cave |
trueblue2007 |
Aug-01-11 01:04 PM |
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A majority of Tea Party voted for the bill. They are very happy. Majority of Dems did not. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-02-11 09:18 PM |
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How did he keep revenues on the table? |
tsuki |
Aug-01-11 12:57 PM |
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bush tax cuts will not be extended. |
warrior1 |
Aug-01-11 12:58 PM |
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they weren't going to be extended last October either. |
rurallib |
Aug-01-11 01:01 PM |
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+100 n/t |
librechik |
Aug-01-11 04:20 PM |
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Now WHERE have I heard THAT one before? |
bvar22 |
Aug-01-11 01:02 PM |
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And other revenue will be dealt with |
SharonRB |
Aug-01-11 01:06 PM |
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Special commission cannot deal with taxes. Art. 1 Section 7 Clause 1, |
tsuki |
Aug-01-11 02:07 PM |
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Haven't been paying much attention the last two weeks then? (nt) |
jeff47 |
Aug-01-11 03:31 PM |
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deja fucking vu' |
piratefish08 |
Aug-01-11 01:09 PM |
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Wait, there will be another politicalapalooza and the tax cuts will be extended. nt |
tsuki |
Aug-01-11 02:05 PM |
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They could extend them in 2013 if there is a different president. |
Renew Deal |
Aug-01-11 02:08 PM |
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They were set to expire before - and he caved into the terrorists demands. |
myrna minx |
Aug-02-11 08:06 AM |
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NOOOOOO!!!! This goes against my constructed reality where my Progressive values |
DFab420 |
Aug-01-11 12:58 PM |
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Josh Marshall did not write that. A reader did and Josh disagrees with the writer. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:39 PM |
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Josh is not disagreeing with the reader. Really read what Josh |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 03:56 PM |
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Actually, he disagreed with the question raised and then offered his own critique of the process. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 04:00 PM |
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Nothing. Energy is better spent on the races in Wisconsin, and |
bluestate10 |
Aug-01-11 01:00 PM |
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I'm noticing a pattern where the goal is always to get re-elected n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-01-11 01:09 PM |
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I almost read a "pattern of moving the goal." |
Sheepshank |
Aug-01-11 04:48 PM |
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what is wrong? Only that we've set the precedent of negotiating with Terrorists... |
hlthe2b |
Aug-01-11 01:01 PM |
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+ 10000 |
DearAbby |
Aug-01-11 02:24 PM |
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ditto n/t |
librechik |
Aug-01-11 04:21 PM |
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The biggest for people here is it feels bad |
SpartanDem |
Aug-01-11 01:02 PM |
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it doesn't pass the "Progressive Purity Test". |
DCBob |
Aug-01-11 01:03 PM |
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Oh yeah, trot out the old "progressive purity" cliche again. |
Raksha |
Aug-01-11 02:21 PM |
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just because its "old" doesnt mean its incorrect. |
DCBob |
Aug-01-11 03:26 PM |
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there ya go, trying to make sense again. |
Sheepshank |
Aug-01-11 04:46 PM |
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+1 there is no way any deal was going to |
treestar |
Aug-01-11 03:58 PM |
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but that would mean that the MSM lied to us! |
KurtNYC |
Aug-01-11 01:03 PM |
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always takes a day or so before the facts come out... |
Whisp |
Aug-01-11 01:03 PM |
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Well, |
DocMac |
Aug-01-11 01:14 PM |
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So you take the OP at face value? |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:50 PM |
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K&R... |
SidDithers |
Aug-01-11 01:05 PM |
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The Bipartisan Committee is what's wrong. Look out for SS, Medicare, Medicaid cut proposals... |
jtown1123 |
Aug-01-11 01:05 PM |
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"Only" Medicare provider cuts... |
misanthrope |
Aug-01-11 01:06 PM |
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Yep. Provider cuts = beneficiary cuts when they can't see their doctor. |
jtown1123 |
Aug-01-11 01:07 PM |
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Overton Window theory = making what was previously unacceptable acceptable |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-01-11 01:09 PM |
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Singe payer, or public option, would become reality if services were denied by hospitals, etc. |
Hoyt |
Aug-01-11 01:13 PM |
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Fuck that...I'm pissed at "only provider cuts" for a different reason... |
Atman |
Aug-01-11 02:58 PM |
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the Wall Street Journal disagrees.... |
mike_c |
Aug-01-11 01:08 PM |
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ROFL: The WSJ's argument is that since the Bush tax cuts will expire |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-01-11 02:11 PM |
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they are already using the rhetoric they'll use later.... |
mike_c |
Aug-01-11 02:32 PM |
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Gahahaha |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-01-11 02:45 PM |
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There are two problems. |
Dawson Leery |
Aug-01-11 01:09 PM |
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Yea that precedent thing is a HUGE problem as well. |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Aug-01-11 01:13 PM |
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"Everything will be on the table again in November" -BHO 7/31/11 |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Aug-01-11 01:11 PM |
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Just lay back and enjoy the rape. |
damntexdem |
Aug-01-11 01:56 PM |
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Rape as a political metaphor (for anything other than war) is always flawed (and offensive) |
Bucky |
Aug-01-11 02:48 PM |
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Josh Marshall talking sense |
alcibiades_mystery |
Aug-01-11 02:05 PM |
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Josh didn't write that, a reader did. Josh disagreed with it. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:43 PM |
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Josh did not disagree with it. He actually is agreeing with it. His |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 03:58 PM |
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The Tea Baggers have nothing to celebrate. K&R |
Cognitive_Resonance |
Aug-01-11 02:27 PM |
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Nothing. Their goal was to hang entitlement cuts around the neck |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 04:00 PM |
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adding in only provider cuts in the trigger |
county worker |
Aug-01-11 02:33 PM |
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adding in only provider cuts in the trigger |
county worker |
Aug-01-11 02:33 PM |
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Spin . No revenues only cuts during massive unemployment |
EFerrari |
Aug-01-11 02:35 PM |
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Spin? There's so many other threads you could have put your |
Solomon |
Aug-01-11 02:43 PM |
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When this thing passes, YOU watch what it does to the economy |
EFerrari |
Aug-01-11 03:53 PM |
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Hey, guess what? Josh Marshall didn't write that, a reader did and Josh disagreed with him! |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:44 PM |
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There's a concerted disinfo effort here today. It's disgusting. n/t |
EFerrari |
Aug-01-11 03:54 PM |
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All these people trying to score a partisan point by using a comment by A READER of TPM as evidence |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:57 PM |
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They're cheering against Obama's re-election and |
EFerrari |
Aug-01-11 04:20 PM |
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As many times as you post that, I will correct you. Josh is agreeing |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 04:01 PM |
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Aug-01-11 02:39 PM |
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K & R |
tanyev |
Aug-01-11 03:17 PM |
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Unrec for pretending a reader of TPM is the position of TPM. Josh disagreed with that readers |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:47 PM |
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Again..Josh's question is rhetorical. He's actually agreeing with |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 04:02 PM |
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But...but..but...He didn't get rid of the Bush tax cuts.... |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 03:47 PM |
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The OP is NOT the position of TPM. It is a comment from a reader and Josh disagrees. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 03:48 PM |
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you are confused.. read it again. |
DCBob |
Aug-01-11 03:58 PM |
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I read it. He answered the question, went on to castigate people for not voting because |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-01-11 04:03 PM |
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did you read this part? |
DCBob |
Aug-01-11 05:31 PM |
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Thank you DCBob. This character does't understand that Josh is |
Kahuna |
Aug-01-11 04:04 PM |
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Did you read beyond that first line? |
Inuca |
Aug-01-11 04:12 PM |
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It depends. What was the alternative? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-01-11 04:23 PM |
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I'm not a huge fan of Obama, but the Obama bashing is out of control around here. |
FourScore |
Aug-01-11 04:50 PM |
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We're bashing the Super-Congress they just enacted. You've heard of that, right? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-02-11 09:22 PM |
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Geez I dunno. Maybe a fascist SuperCongress bent on cutting Social Security and Medicare? n/t |
eridani |
Aug-02-11 01:41 AM |
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Thanks Josh. I'm glad to read a more reasoned and less |
liberalla |
Aug-02-11 08:03 AM |
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It's amazing.. |
sendero |
Aug-02-11 09:21 PM |
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