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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 04:19 PM
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36. I'm not saying it is not consent
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 04:51 PM by marions ghost
of course it is consent, although the exchange of money does make it a transaction for sex which is prostitution, but I'm not arguing the legality of that. I'm talking about the future ramifications for the woman involved. Anytime you have sex with someone you absolutely do NOT want to have sex with--this makes you a victim of predation, even if you don't realize it at the time.

This is not equivalent to "doing stupid stuff." Sure we all have done stupid stuff. And we all make bad choices. But how many choices involve being victimized? How many of those bad choices put you in a situation of being used and abused by others, and is that really a free choice, even if you feel it's "worth it" at the time? Also you have to consider that women are confused enough about being sex objects in this culture. Women who have been previously abused (and so many have) may not even be able to make the distinction until years later, that they were abused.

Also I'm not really talking about "seeking absolution." That implies a whole lot of guilt. I'm not saying the woman should feel guilty. I am saying she will likely be angry at herself and at the predator many years down the line. That anger could come out in subterranean ways, directed inward or outward. Whenever it's an unhealthy situation (I think we can agree on that at least)--there WILL be lasting repercussions, in most people. This is exploitation by greedy irresponsible men--a case of victimizing those who are in a weaker position. Because if the women did not need the money pretty badly, (like the temp workers at Fukushima) they would not do it.
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           - I'm not saying it is not consent  marions ghost   Aug-01-11 04:19 PM   #36 
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