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Sat Jul-30-11 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
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You can spew THAT swill while you are aware we are bleeding in Iraq and Afghanistan?
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| -Somalia Is Dying. Does Anyone Care? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 04:36 PM |
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Caring enough to unrec really makes you wonder about |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 04:53 PM |
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No, by and large nobody cares. |
naaman fletcher |
Jul-30-11 04:57 PM |
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Now that is what I call a good idea. And after we get done with Somalia |
jwirr |
Jul-30-11 05:38 PM |
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I think ordinary people care. But we are not running things. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 06:04 PM |
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Re-posting of something that got lost down wind of here. |
Maraya1969 |
Jul-31-11 04:34 AM |
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I'm sorry, I just saw your post right now, and I do not know |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 07:22 PM |
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I did look up the Canadian Red Cross and it seems they are |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 08:44 PM |
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Americans don't even pay attention that the GOP wants to rid the USDA |
DontTreadOnMe |
Jul-30-11 04:53 PM |
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+100000! |
Fearless |
Jul-30-11 06:33 PM |
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They need a little pretty white poster girl. |
Shandris |
Jul-30-11 04:57 PM |
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Anything that works |
Patiod |
Jul-31-11 08:47 AM |
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I agree ~ n/t |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 02:03 PM |
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I gave. |
gulliver |
Jul-30-11 05:00 PM |
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Thank you, good to know they are trustworthy. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 08:42 PM |
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Mercy Corps |
lapislzi |
Jul-31-11 08:39 AM |
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Why should it just be America caring? |
The Straight Story |
Jul-30-11 05:00 PM |
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I agree. Where are they? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 05:24 PM |
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The Canadian government is doing more. |
laundry_queen |
Jul-30-11 10:50 PM |
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Thank you for that information. I agree that people are more |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 12:30 AM |
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Part of this is the result of colonialism |
swilton |
Jul-31-11 08:17 AM |
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UK individuals have given £37m; UK govt pledged £52 million 2 weeks ago |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-31-11 09:57 AM |
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Good news, I hope it helps and that they can get the aid to the |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 01:34 AM |
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I don't think the one denies the other... |
LanternWaste |
Aug-03-11 12:08 PM |
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Amnesty International blog: |
EFerrari |
Jul-30-11 05:01 PM |
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You are Mistaking Despair for Apathy |
AndyTiedye |
Jul-30-11 05:07 PM |
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No, we shouldn't take away "Granny's Medicare" - but we could tax the rich |
TBF |
Jul-30-11 05:09 PM |
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And We're Going to Get That Through the Teabagger House How? |
AndyTiedye |
Jul-30-11 05:13 PM |
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We're not going to do it without massive protests, I can tell you that - |
TBF |
Jul-30-11 09:52 PM |
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Even That Won't Happen Until Next Year, and the Accompanying Tax Hike on Everybody Else Will Cost Us |
AndyTiedye |
Jul-30-11 10:22 PM |
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Massive Protests can happen NOW, not next year (and they need to) nt |
TBF |
Jul-30-11 10:24 PM |
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Do You Really Think Any Amount of Protesting Will Change A Single Teabagger Vote in Congress? |
AndyTiedye |
Jul-30-11 10:27 PM |
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Enough people in the streets puts pressure on the very wealthy, and |
TBF |
Jul-31-11 09:28 AM |
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No duh! |
chervilant |
Jul-30-11 11:05 PM |
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Yes, the American people are caring and always wiling to help |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 05:18 PM |
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Oh. Didn't you know? Our world's main problem is too many people. |
Octafish |
Jul-30-11 05:09 PM |
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Wow, that is a very disturbing article. Pure evil, if true. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 05:35 PM |
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Why do you think we created Africa-Com? |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jul-30-11 05:48 PM |
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I have no doubt that they would, will do it to us here. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 07:49 PM |
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Indeed he is. |
hifiguy |
Jul-30-11 05:49 PM |
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And yet, here, he is treated like some kind of wise old man. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 03:04 AM |
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But (see reply #98) it wasn't true |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-31-11 10:24 AM |
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Thank you, I will read the rest |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 02:07 PM |
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Kissinger is probably a war criminal, and one of the most amoral public figures in recent decades |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-31-11 02:53 PM |
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The absolute WRONG way to go about population control. Education and empowering |
Lorien |
Jul-30-11 06:39 PM |
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From what I have read, including |
tomg |
Jul-31-11 07:34 AM |
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Thanks for the heads-up. He was discussed on DU at the time... |
Octafish |
Aug-01-11 08:35 PM |
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Oh man, that number is staggering. |
Rex |
Jul-30-11 05:16 PM |
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I do. |
Forkboy |
Jul-30-11 05:17 PM |
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k & r |
girl gone mad |
Jul-30-11 05:17 PM |
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care and hopeless. obviously we dont care enough for our own. nt |
seabeyond |
Jul-30-11 05:31 PM |
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It isn't just Somalia. The whole Horn of Africa is facing disaster. What |
jwirr |
Jul-30-11 05:36 PM |
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that's what I do also |
dana_b |
Jul-30-11 05:45 PM |
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This is an each one reach one situation. |
jwirr |
Jul-30-11 05:59 PM |
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I have often wondered about those programs, and I do agree |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 12:07 AM |
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ABC's correspondent David Muir spotlighted this on evenining news... |
Flubadubya |
Jul-30-11 05:40 PM |
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Thank you, I did not see that and am glad it is at least getting |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 05:47 PM |
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PBS Newshour interview with Josette Sheeran (UN World Food Program): |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Jul-30-11 08:12 PM |
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Thank you, I will watch that when I get later. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 08:33 PM |
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somalia doesn't have government anymore |
undercutter799 |
Jul-30-11 05:41 PM |
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Heh, reminds me of a discussion I had with a couple of libertarians |
Posteritatis |
Jul-30-11 06:13 PM |
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Somalia was *the* in thing for "anarcho"-capitalists in the early 2000s. |
joshcryer |
Jul-30-11 10:42 PM |
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Yeah, this was 2009 or something similarly embarrassingly recent |
Posteritatis |
Jul-31-11 12:12 AM |
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I truly believe that it worked exactly as the "anarcho"-capitalists could best hope for. |
joshcryer |
Jul-31-11 03:19 AM |
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"The unfettered "free market" is nothing more than rule by warlord and king." |
I Have A Dream |
Jul-31-11 12:23 PM |
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We tried the Somalia thing... |
Imajika |
Jul-30-11 05:45 PM |
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Dragging the American |
Aerows |
Jul-30-11 05:55 PM |
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We are willing to keep losing soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 05:56 PM |
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The loss of the soldiers might not have been the reason, but it was certainly the excuse |
Posteritatis |
Jul-30-11 06:08 PM |
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I am not sure what you mean by the 'notion of the Mogadishu Line'? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 10:10 PM |
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A line of possible casualties above which the US will not generally intervene somewhere |
Posteritatis |
Jul-31-11 12:10 AM |
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Okay, thanks for the explanation. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 01:13 AM |
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Oh hogwash... |
Imajika |
Jul-30-11 06:23 PM |
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If the US had wanted to stay in Somalia, we would have |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 07:59 PM |
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The problem with Somalia is it was sold as a humanitarian operation only... |
Imajika |
Jul-30-11 09:10 PM |
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US unmanned army to fight in Somalia this time. |
sad sally |
Jul-30-11 10:19 PM |
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Six wars! Drones not Food! |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 10:33 PM |
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You're right, I fear it is too late. The US motto has become War At Any Cost |
sad sally |
Jul-30-11 11:05 PM |
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Torture and killings made acceptable? |
azul |
Jul-31-11 12:33 AM |
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It's amazing, and frightening, what we have come to accept |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 03:31 AM |
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Except that we ARE in Somalia, goddamnit. We have troops stationed there right now |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-01-11 01:45 AM |
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The warlords aren't the problem now |
cpwm17 |
Jul-30-11 06:13 PM |
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'President Obama is supporting the same Muslims that President |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 06:25 PM |
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So instead of Warlords we have radical Muslims in charge... |
Imajika |
Jul-30-11 06:26 PM |
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Ha ha ha. |
Bonobo |
Jul-30-11 07:52 PM |
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The people that are crying for interventions ignore that islamic radicals have |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 08:08 AM |
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I think you may be right |
malletgirl02 |
Jul-31-11 12:06 PM |
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and before it, Biafra & Ethiopia & Bangladesh, and Somalia again |
SoCalDem |
Jul-30-11 05:54 PM |
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A huge part of the problem in Somalia |
Aerows |
Jul-30-11 05:58 PM |
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and the largest, 'force' is Shahbab (a group of Al Quaeda wannabes) |
JCMach1 |
Jul-30-11 09:59 PM |
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do they even want us there |
DonCoquixote |
Jul-30-11 06:01 PM |
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That's what I was referring to in my previous post |
Aerows |
Jul-30-11 06:04 PM |
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i'm sure the people who need help want us there, but there are bad people everywhere |
JI7 |
Jul-31-11 03:29 AM |
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Not sure what America can do right now |
Marrah_G |
Jul-30-11 06:04 PM |
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George Bush intervened in Somalia and destabilized the country |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 06:18 PM |
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Somalia was not stabilizing under an Islamic govt. when US went in. |
tabasco |
Jul-30-11 08:39 PM |
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President George W Bush encouraged and supported |
cpwm17 |
Jul-31-11 12:17 AM |
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I'm talking about 1992, when the US sent troops into Somalia. |
tabasco |
Jul-31-11 07:39 AM |
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You were responding to Sabrina 1 |
cpwm17 |
Jul-31-11 08:47 AM |
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I pretty much agree. |
tabasco |
Jul-31-11 10:24 AM |
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How much of the donated money will be siphoned away by radicals and warlords? |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 08:26 AM |
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I care and it is tragic. |
tnlefty |
Jul-30-11 06:13 PM |
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Somalia has been dying for a few decades at least |
saras |
Jul-30-11 06:24 PM |
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'That's what we get for letting them rule'. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 07:15 PM |
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K & R |
Raksha |
Jul-30-11 06:29 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-30-11 06:36 PM |
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I'm sending my Democratic National Party money where it will do some good. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-30-11 07:24 PM |
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Their black so people don't give a damn. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-30-11 08:50 PM |
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Japan received way more media attention. Africa not so much. |
Glimmer of Hope |
Jul-30-11 09:15 PM |
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Some wealthy neighboring oil rich countries need to open their wallets this Ramadan |
JCMach1 |
Jul-30-11 09:57 PM |
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It has begun |
jimlup |
Jul-30-11 09:57 PM |
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Because Somalia has been in this kind of crisis for 20 years! |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-30-11 11:03 PM |
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The type of changes that are needed in Somalia are the very changes that |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 08:38 AM |
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Not sure what you mean, it is the right wing that opposes hum. intervention. Also, the oft-mentioned |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-01-11 01:52 AM |
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Yup. We turned off the cable TV and sent the money to Oxfam. |
kickysnana |
Jul-30-11 11:31 PM |
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Yes people care. But the human brain can get overwhelmed too. |
azul |
Jul-30-11 11:32 PM |
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Interesting. It does explain how when you read about |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-30-11 11:58 PM |
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Like the picture of the napalmed Vietnamese girl in the news back then, |
azul |
Jul-31-11 12:22 AM |
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I would find that interesting also. I'm sure many others would |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 03:17 AM |
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True. The problem seems so big and impossible to remedy, so we try to ignore it. |
dorkulon |
Jul-31-11 02:47 PM |
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True, but a few people in this thread made some suggestions that I |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 07:03 PM |
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Get back to me on Black Friday, Nov. 25th, when... |
bicentennial_baby |
Aug-01-11 03:19 AM |
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hey, let's face it - unless it's a country that has OUR oil under THEIR sand, the US govt really |
kath |
Jul-30-11 11:45 PM |
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Your analysis is myopic and ignores history. |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 08:46 AM |
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I just FB'd the Canadian red cross because they said they would match |
Maraya1969 |
Jul-31-11 04:28 AM |
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Of Course We Care |
Mosaic |
Jul-31-11 06:15 AM |
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Climate change |
n2doc |
Jul-31-11 06:46 AM |
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I believe you are right. :^( And we won't see a lot of assistance in this |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-31-11 07:19 PM |
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K&R There are so many good people in this world. It is hard to read to what level |
midnight |
Jul-31-11 07:47 AM |
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It is a shame that this happens, but happen it does. Even here in the |
Obamanaut |
Jul-31-11 07:59 AM |
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Great analysis. American people have a lot to work through now. |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 08:56 AM |
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Carrying Capacity of an Ecosystem |
perdita9 |
Jul-31-11 08:04 AM |
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Birth control, elimination of warlords and radicals, irrigation and road |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 08:59 AM |
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I, for one, would never reject help to them just because some people say Somalia has Al-Qaeda... |
joshcryer |
Jul-31-11 08:20 AM |
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Your post ignores that islamic radicals have threatened aid worker's safety. |
bluestate10 |
Jul-31-11 09:08 AM |
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What you do is you go in via Somaliland, creating a virtual border for all whom are affected. |
joshcryer |
Jul-31-11 09:14 AM |
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At this point I really, really wish people would just start recognizing Somaliland already |
Posteritatis |
Jul-31-11 11:27 AM |
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I think Cloony needs to focus on Somalia like he did Sudan which resulted in South Sudan. |
joshcryer |
Jul-31-11 10:45 PM |
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Libertarian policies, promoted by this president, are turning us into one giant Somalia. |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-31-11 09:43 AM |
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No they don't I posted videos this week and no one bothered to view them. |
ej510 |
Jul-31-11 10:03 AM |
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Of course I care! |
lonestarnot |
Jul-31-11 11:28 AM |
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This makes everything we do with our military seem pointless. |
gtar100 |
Jul-31-11 11:30 AM |
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K & R |
northamericancitizen |
Jul-31-11 02:11 PM |
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Yes. |
Iggo |
Jul-31-11 02:14 PM |
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exactly... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jul-31-11 02:21 PM |
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Is there a way to feel self-righteous about it by just typing something on a message board? |
harmonicon |
Jul-31-11 03:56 PM |
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(insert indignant response) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-31-11 05:54 PM |
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So you don't think these disasters should be reported on then? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 07:25 PM |
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Do not fabricate statements and attribute them to me. It's childish and insulting. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-31-11 09:18 PM |
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Interesting response. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 09:43 PM |
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You did not ask a question. You fabricated a statement and responded to that instead. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-31-11 09:56 PM |
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You endorsed an insult aimed at every person in this thread |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 12:21 AM |
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I insulted you now? |
harmonicon |
Aug-01-11 03:23 AM |
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Sorry then, if I misunderstood you. |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 03:43 PM |
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I'm just jaded. |
harmonicon |
Aug-01-11 08:16 PM |
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We are all tired and overwhelmed by the destruction |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 08:33 PM |
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It all depends on motivation for 'typing something' on a message |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 07:13 PM |
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I imagine we often feel quite self-righteous ourselves |
LanternWaste |
Aug-03-11 12:13 PM |
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We just gave twenty bucks to mercycorp for famine relief-thank you for reminding me to do it NOW |
Snoutport |
Jul-31-11 04:06 PM |
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Thank you, Snoutport, someone in the thread above said that is |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-31-11 07:16 PM |
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Aid doesn't help much if it doesn't get where it is needed. |
alarimer |
Jul-31-11 10:43 PM |
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Help is on the way! |
OldEurope |
Aug-01-11 12:21 AM |
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Yes, the problems do seem intractable. We can only do what we |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 02:22 PM |
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If millions of white people died of starvation, what would happen? How would folks respond |
Leopolds Ghost |
Aug-01-11 02:05 AM |
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Or, maybe they were trying to protect the Nuclear Power Industry? |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 03:41 PM |
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Hi Sabrina. |
Turborama |
Aug-01-11 02:27 AM |
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Hi Turboram, no I had not seen that. |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-01-11 02:17 PM |
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Hiya |
Turborama |
Aug-03-11 11:52 AM |
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I care, but not enough to involve our taxes. |
Atypical Liberal |
Aug-01-11 08:35 AM |
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What was the food and drought situation in Somalia 10 years ago? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Aug-01-11 08:51 AM |
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No. Nobody that counts that is. |
AngryAmish |
Aug-01-11 08:55 AM |
#159 |