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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 04:57 PM
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4. They need a little pretty white poster girl.
Then people will care. Until then, hey, didn't they shoot down a chopper? I think I saw that in Blackhawk Down.

:sarcasm: (as if that were needed)
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  -Somalia Is Dying. Does Anyone Care? sabrina 1  Jul-30-11 04:36 PM   #0 
  - Caring enough to unrec really makes you wonder about  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 04:53 PM   #1 
  - No, by and large nobody cares.  naaman fletcher   Jul-30-11 04:57 PM   #3 
  - Now that is what I call a good idea. And after we get done with Somalia  jwirr   Jul-30-11 05:38 PM   #20 
  - I think ordinary people care. But we are not running things.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 06:04 PM   #35 
  - Re-posting of something that got lost down wind of here.  Maraya1969   Jul-31-11 04:34 AM   #95 
     - I'm sorry, I just saw your post right now, and I do not know  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:22 PM   #141 
     - I did look up the Canadian Red Cross and it seems they are  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 08:44 PM   #167 
  - Americans don't even pay attention that the GOP wants to rid the USDA  DontTreadOnMe   Jul-30-11 04:53 PM   #2 
  - +100000!  Fearless   Jul-30-11 06:33 PM   #47 
  - They need a little pretty white poster girl.  Shandris   Jul-30-11 04:57 PM   #4 
  - Anything that works  Patiod   Jul-31-11 08:47 AM   #111 
     - I agree ~ n/t  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 02:03 PM   #127 
  - I gave.  gulliver   Jul-30-11 05:00 PM   #5 
  - Thank you, good to know they are trustworthy.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 08:42 PM   #58 
  - Mercy Corps  lapislzi   Jul-31-11 08:39 AM   #108 
  - Why should it just be America caring?  The Straight Story   Jul-30-11 05:00 PM   #6 
  - I agree. Where are they?  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:24 PM   #16 
  - The Canadian government is doing more.  laundry_queen   Jul-30-11 10:50 PM   #73 
  - Thank you for that information. I agree that people are more  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 12:30 AM   #86 
  - Part of this is the result of colonialism  swilton   Jul-31-11 08:17 AM   #104 
  - UK individuals have given 37m; UK govt pledged 52 million 2 weeks ago  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-31-11 09:57 AM   #118 
  - Good news, I hope it helps and that they can get the aid to the  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 01:34 AM   #150 
  - I don't think the one denies the other...  LanternWaste   Aug-03-11 12:08 PM   #169 
  - Amnesty International blog:  EFerrari   Jul-30-11 05:01 PM   #7 
  - You are Mistaking Despair for Apathy  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 05:07 PM   #8 
  - No, we shouldn't take away "Granny's Medicare" - but we could tax the rich  TBF   Jul-30-11 05:09 PM   #10 
  - And We're Going to Get That Through the Teabagger House How?  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 05:13 PM   #11 
  - We're not going to do it without massive protests, I can tell you that -  TBF   Jul-30-11 09:52 PM   #62 
     - Even That Won't Happen Until Next Year, and the Accompanying Tax Hike on Everybody Else Will Cost Us  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 10:22 PM   #68 
        - Massive Protests can happen NOW, not next year (and they need to) nt  TBF   Jul-30-11 10:24 PM   #69 
           - Do You Really Think Any Amount of Protesting Will Change A Single Teabagger Vote in Congress?  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 10:27 PM   #70 
              - Enough people in the streets puts pressure on the very wealthy, and  TBF   Jul-31-11 09:28 AM   #116 
  - No duh!  chervilant   Jul-30-11 11:05 PM   #75 
  - Yes, the American people are caring and always wiling to help  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:18 PM   #15 
  - Oh. Didn't you know? Our world's main problem is too many people.  Octafish   Jul-30-11 05:09 PM   #9 
  - Wow, that is a very disturbing article. Pure evil, if true.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:35 PM   #18 
  - Why do you think we created Africa-Com?  dixiegrrrrl   Jul-30-11 05:48 PM   #26 
  - I have no doubt that they would, will do it to us here.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 07:49 PM   #52 
  - Indeed he is.  hifiguy   Jul-30-11 05:49 PM   #27 
  - And yet, here, he is treated like some kind of wise old man.  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 03:04 AM   #89 
  - But (see reply #98) it wasn't true  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-31-11 10:24 AM   #121 
     - Thank you, I will read the rest  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 02:07 PM   #128 
        - Kissinger is probably a war criminal, and one of the most amoral public figures in recent decades  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-31-11 02:53 PM   #133 
  - The absolute WRONG way to go about population control. Education and empowering  Lorien   Jul-30-11 06:39 PM   #49 
  - From what I have read, including  tomg   Jul-31-11 07:34 AM   #98 
     - Thanks for the heads-up. He was discussed on DU at the time...  Octafish   Aug-01-11 08:35 PM   #166 
  - Oh man, that number is staggering.  Rex   Jul-30-11 05:16 PM   #12 
  - I do.  Forkboy   Jul-30-11 05:17 PM   #13 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   Jul-30-11 05:17 PM   #14 
  - care and hopeless. obviously we dont care enough for our own. nt  seabeyond   Jul-30-11 05:31 PM   #17 
  - It isn't just Somalia. The whole Horn of Africa is facing disaster. What  jwirr   Jul-30-11 05:36 PM   #19 
  - that's what I do also  dana_b   Jul-30-11 05:45 PM   #23 
  - This is an each one reach one situation.  jwirr   Jul-30-11 05:59 PM   #32 
  - I have often wondered about those programs, and I do agree  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 12:07 AM   #81 
  - ABC's correspondent David Muir spotlighted this on evenining news...  Flubadubya   Jul-30-11 05:40 PM   #21 
  - Thank you, I did not see that and am glad it is at least getting  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:47 PM   #25 
     - PBS Newshour interview with Josette Sheeran (UN World Food Program):  WorseBeforeBetter   Jul-30-11 08:12 PM   #55 
        - Thank you, I will watch that when I get later.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 08:33 PM   #56 
  - somalia doesn't have government anymore  undercutter799   Jul-30-11 05:41 PM   #22 
  - Heh, reminds me of a discussion I had with a couple of libertarians  Posteritatis   Jul-30-11 06:13 PM   #38 
     - Somalia was *the* in thing for "anarcho"-capitalists in the early 2000s.  joshcryer   Jul-30-11 10:42 PM   #72 
        - Yeah, this was 2009 or something similarly embarrassingly recent  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 12:12 AM   #83 
           - I truly believe that it worked exactly as the "anarcho"-capitalists could best hope for.  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 03:19 AM   #91 
              - "The unfettered "free market" is nothing more than rule by warlord and king."  I Have A Dream   Jul-31-11 12:23 PM   #126 
  - We tried the Somalia thing...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 05:45 PM   #24 
  - Dragging the American  Aerows   Jul-30-11 05:55 PM   #29 
  - We are willing to keep losing soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:56 PM   #30 
  - The loss of the soldiers might not have been the reason, but it was certainly the excuse  Posteritatis   Jul-30-11 06:08 PM   #37 
  - I am not sure what you mean by the 'notion of the Mogadishu Line'?  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 10:10 PM   #66 
     - A line of possible casualties above which the US will not generally intervene somewhere  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 12:10 AM   #82 
        - Okay, thanks for the explanation.  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 01:13 AM   #88 
  - Oh hogwash...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 06:23 PM   #42 
     - If the US had wanted to stay in Somalia, we would have  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 07:59 PM   #54 
     - The problem with Somalia is it was sold as a humanitarian operation only...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 09:10 PM   #60 
     - US unmanned army to fight in Somalia this time.  sad sally   Jul-30-11 10:19 PM   #67 
        - Six wars! Drones not Food!  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 10:33 PM   #71 
           - You're right, I fear it is too late. The US motto has become War At Any Cost  sad sally   Jul-30-11 11:05 PM   #76 
              - Torture and killings made acceptable?  azul   Jul-31-11 12:33 AM   #87 
              - It's amazing, and frightening, what we have come to accept  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 03:31 AM   #93 
     - Except that we ARE in Somalia, goddamnit. We have troops stationed there right now  Leopolds Ghost   Aug-01-11 01:45 AM   #151 
  - The warlords aren't the problem now  cpwm17   Jul-30-11 06:13 PM   #40 
  - 'President Obama is supporting the same Muslims that President  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 06:25 PM   #44 
  - So instead of Warlords we have radical Muslims in charge...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 06:26 PM   #45 
  - Ha ha ha.  Bonobo   Jul-30-11 07:52 PM   #53 
  - The people that are crying for interventions ignore that islamic radicals have  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:08 AM   #103 
     - I think you may be right  malletgirl02   Jul-31-11 12:06 PM   #125 
  - and before it, Biafra & Ethiopia & Bangladesh, and Somalia again  SoCalDem   Jul-30-11 05:54 PM   #28 
  - A huge part of the problem in Somalia  Aerows   Jul-30-11 05:58 PM   #31 
     - and the largest, 'force' is Shahbab (a group of Al Quaeda wannabes)  JCMach1   Jul-30-11 09:59 PM   #65 
  - do they even want us there  DonCoquixote   Jul-30-11 06:01 PM   #33 
  - That's what I was referring to in my previous post  Aerows   Jul-30-11 06:04 PM   #36 
  - i'm sure the people who need help want us there, but there are bad people everywhere  JI7   Jul-31-11 03:29 AM   #92 
  - Not sure what America can do right now  Marrah_G   Jul-30-11 06:04 PM   #34 
  - George Bush intervened in Somalia and destabilized the country  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 06:18 PM   #41 
     - Somalia was not stabilizing under an Islamic govt. when US went in.  tabasco   Jul-30-11 08:39 PM   #57 
     - President George W Bush encouraged and supported  cpwm17   Jul-31-11 12:17 AM   #84 
        - I'm talking about 1992, when the US sent troops into Somalia.  tabasco   Jul-31-11 07:39 AM   #99 
           - You were responding to Sabrina 1  cpwm17   Jul-31-11 08:47 AM   #110 
              - I pretty much agree.  tabasco   Jul-31-11 10:24 AM   #120 
     - How much of the donated money will be siphoned away by radicals and warlords?  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:26 AM   #106 
  - I care and it is tragic.  tnlefty   Jul-30-11 06:13 PM   #39 
  - Somalia has been dying for a few decades at least  saras   Jul-30-11 06:24 PM   #43 
  - 'That's what we get for letting them rule'.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 07:15 PM   #50 
  - K & R  Raksha   Jul-30-11 06:29 PM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-11 06:36 PM   #48 
  - I'm sending my Democratic National Party money where it will do some good.  Jakes Progress   Jul-30-11 07:24 PM   #51 
  - Their black so people don't give a damn.  Odin2005   Jul-30-11 08:50 PM   #59 
  - Japan received way more media attention. Africa not so much.  Glimmer of Hope   Jul-30-11 09:15 PM   #61 
  - Some wealthy neighboring oil rich countries need to open their wallets this Ramadan  JCMach1   Jul-30-11 09:57 PM   #63 
  - It has begun  jimlup   Jul-30-11 09:57 PM   #64 
  - Because Somalia has been in this kind of crisis for 20 years!  riderinthestorm   Jul-30-11 11:03 PM   #74 
  - The type of changes that are needed in Somalia are the very changes that  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:38 AM   #107 
     - Not sure what you mean, it is the right wing that opposes hum. intervention. Also, the oft-mentioned  Leopolds Ghost   Aug-01-11 01:52 AM   #152 
  - Yup. We turned off the cable TV and sent the money to Oxfam.  kickysnana   Jul-30-11 11:31 PM   #77 
  - Yes people care. But the human brain can get overwhelmed too.  azul   Jul-30-11 11:32 PM   #78 
  - Interesting. It does explain how when you read about  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 11:58 PM   #80 
  - Like the picture of the napalmed Vietnamese girl in the news back then,  azul   Jul-31-11 12:22 AM   #85 
     - I would find that interesting also. I'm sure many others would  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 03:17 AM   #90 
  - True. The problem seems so big and impossible to remedy, so we try to ignore it.  dorkulon   Jul-31-11 02:47 PM   #132 
  - True, but a few people in this thread made some suggestions that I  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:03 PM   #137 
  - Get back to me on Black Friday, Nov. 25th, when...  bicentennial_baby   Aug-01-11 03:19 AM   #155 
  - hey, let's face it - unless it's a country that has OUR oil under THEIR sand, the US govt really  kath   Jul-30-11 11:45 PM   #79 
  - Your analysis is myopic and ignores history.  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:46 AM   #109 
  - I just FB'd the Canadian red cross because they said they would match  Maraya1969   Jul-31-11 04:28 AM   #94 
  - Of Course We Care  Mosaic   Jul-31-11 06:15 AM   #96 
  - Climate change  n2doc   Jul-31-11 06:46 AM   #97 
  - I believe you are right. :^( And we won't see a lot of assistance in this  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-31-11 07:19 PM   #140 
  - K&R There are so many good people in this world. It is hard to read to what level  midnight   Jul-31-11 07:47 AM   #100 
  - It is a shame that this happens, but happen it does. Even here in the  Obamanaut   Jul-31-11 07:59 AM   #101 
  - Great analysis. American people have a lot to work through now.  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:56 AM   #112 
  - Carrying Capacity of an Ecosystem  perdita9   Jul-31-11 08:04 AM   #102 
  - Birth control, elimination of warlords and radicals, irrigation and road  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:59 AM   #113 
  - I, for one, would never reject help to them just because some people say Somalia has Al-Qaeda...  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 08:20 AM   #105 
  - Your post ignores that islamic radicals have threatened aid worker's safety.  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 09:08 AM   #114 
     - What you do is you go in via Somaliland, creating a virtual border for all whom are affected.  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 09:14 AM   #115 
        - At this point I really, really wish people would just start recognizing Somaliland already  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 11:27 AM   #122 
           - I think Cloony needs to focus on Somalia like he did Sudan which resulted in South Sudan.  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 10:45 PM   #147 
  - Libertarian policies, promoted by this president, are turning us into one giant Somalia.  grahamhgreen   Jul-31-11 09:43 AM   #117 
  - No they don't I posted videos this week and no one bothered to view them.  ej510   Jul-31-11 10:03 AM   #119 
  - Of course I care!  lonestarnot   Jul-31-11 11:28 AM   #123 
  - This makes everything we do with our military seem pointless.  gtar100   Jul-31-11 11:30 AM   #124 
  - K & R  northamericancitizen   Jul-31-11 02:11 PM   #129 
  - Yes.  Iggo   Jul-31-11 02:14 PM   #130 
  - exactly...  awoke_in_2003   Jul-31-11 02:21 PM   #131 
  - Is there a way to feel self-righteous about it by just typing something on a message board?  harmonicon   Jul-31-11 03:56 PM   #134 
  - (insert indignant response)  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 05:54 PM   #136 
  - So you don't think these disasters should be reported on then?  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:25 PM   #142 
     - Do not fabricate statements and attribute them to me. It's childish and insulting. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 09:18 PM   #143 
        - Interesting response.  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 09:43 PM   #144 
           - You did not ask a question. You fabricated a statement and responded to that instead. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 09:56 PM   #145 
           - You endorsed an insult aimed at every person in this thread  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 12:21 AM   #149 
           - I insulted you now?  harmonicon   Aug-01-11 03:23 AM   #156 
              - Sorry then, if I misunderstood you.  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 03:43 PM   #163 
                 - I'm just jaded.  harmonicon   Aug-01-11 08:16 PM   #164 
                    - We are all tired and overwhelmed by the destruction  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 08:33 PM   #165 
  - It all depends on motivation for 'typing something' on a message  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:13 PM   #138 
  - I imagine we often feel quite self-righteous ourselves  LanternWaste   Aug-03-11 12:13 PM   #170 
  - We just gave twenty bucks to mercycorp for famine relief-thank you for reminding me to do it NOW  Snoutport   Jul-31-11 04:06 PM   #135 
  - Thank you, Snoutport, someone in the thread above said that is  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:16 PM   #139 
  - Aid doesn't help much if it doesn't get where it is needed.  alarimer   Jul-31-11 10:43 PM   #146 
  - Help is on the way!  OldEurope   Aug-01-11 12:21 AM   #148 
  - Yes, the problems do seem intractable. We can only do what we  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 02:22 PM   #161 
  - If millions of white people died of starvation, what would happen? How would folks respond  Leopolds Ghost   Aug-01-11 02:05 AM   #153 
  - Or, maybe they were trying to protect the Nuclear Power Industry?  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 03:41 PM   #162 
  - Hi Sabrina.  Turborama   Aug-01-11 02:27 AM   #154 
  - Hi Turboram, no I had not seen that.  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 02:17 PM   #160 
     - Hiya  Turborama   Aug-03-11 11:52 AM   #168 
  - I care, but not enough to involve our taxes.  Atypical Liberal   Aug-01-11 08:35 AM   #157 
  - What was the food and drought situation in Somalia 10 years ago?  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-01-11 08:51 AM   #158 
  - No. Nobody that counts that is.  AngryAmish   Aug-01-11 08:55 AM   #159 
 

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