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Somalia Is Dying. Does Anyone Care?
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Remember Rwanda? When the world looked the other way and the genocide of hundreds of thousands of people took place? Later, way too late, world leaders, like Clinton, apologized.

What is happening in Somalia right now, 12 Million human beings may starve to death, is beyond human imagination. The horror, the tragedy, the magnitude of the suffering. It's not possible to absorb it, especially from a distance.



Actress Kristin Davis Breaks Down Over Conditions in Somalia

Actress Kristin Davis, best known for her role as Charlotte on HBO’s Sex and the City, broke down in tears on live TV while describing her visit to a refugee camp in Kenya. The camp is housing hundreds of thousands of refugees from drought-stricken Somalia, which is fast becoming one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world.

.......

In her work as an Oxfam ambassador, Davis visited a Kenyan refugee camp, where she saw the devastation first-hand.

“We were really unprepared for how shocking it is,” she told the BBC. As she began to cry, she added, ”I’m sorry, this story is a hard story. This woman can’t walk so she came from Somalia on a cart with a donkey. She started with five children and now she just has three. Her husband was killed along the way and everything she owned.”

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In an interview with NPR, Jeremy Konyndyk, the co-director of policy and advocacy for the global aid agency Mercy Corps, said, U.S. assistance is not there, will make a difference, but not enough of a difference. The U.S. is the largest donor of global food aid. And when the U.S. doesn’t contribute robustly to a response, there aren’t too many other donors in the world who can pick up that slack.”


The US has important business, elsewhere. In Iraq, in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, killing people, with drones and bombs.

Imagine if instead, we were saving lives?

An apology from this President after the fact, will be as comforting to the dead and their surviving loved ones, as Clinton's apology to Rwanda was! :cry:


The question in the article below is for Canada, which is also receiving criticism for its lack of interest in the plight of the people of Somalia:.




Somalia Is Dying. Why Don't We Care?

The United Nations warned Friday that all of Southern Somalia is in danger of slipping into famine. The number of people needing food is now at 12.4 million. Routes out of Somalia towards refugee camps are being called “roads of death” because of the bodies of those who starved to death along the way — particularly children — left by the roadside.

In the last week, since the Canadian Government announced that they would match all donations made to famine relief in Somalia and other parts of Africa, Canadians have donated — but not much. Since the announcement of donation matching, Canadians have donated $2.9 million to the Humanitarian Coalition, a group of charities that includes the Red Cross, Medecins Sans Frontiers and World Vision.

In contrast, in the week after an earthquake and subsequent tsunami devastated parts of Japan on 11 march, Canadians donated over $10 million to disaster relief, despite the fact that Japan is a wealthy, first world country with plenty of resources of its own. Why the discrepancy?


Yes, why the discrepancy? Is it racism? Or classism? Or both? Rwanda, Somalia, Darfur ...

After Rwanda we were never supposed to let it happen again.

I know this is not of much interest right now with the debt ceiling drama going on in DC using up pretty much all media airtime.

I don't know what to do to help, other than send a donation to the agencies linked in the articles, and spread the word, a little anyhow. The most trustworthy agency for me is https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/donate /

But even if it’s not on the news, it doesn’t mean it’s not happening. People are dying. Children are too malnourished and weak to even try to feed from their mothers or take in any food that might come their way. Mothers are leaving the bodies of their babies by the side of the road when they cannot reach a refugee camp in time — and even if they reach the camp, there’s no guarantee there’s enough space or food.




The journey from Liboi to Dadaab, the refugee camps, can take some people up to four days





António Guterres, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees: "Knowing that children are dying along their journey to safety breaks our hearts. This is turning one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises into a human tragedy of unimaginable proportions.”







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  -Somalia Is Dying. Does Anyone Care? sabrina 1  Jul-30-11 04:36 PM   #0 
  - Caring enough to unrec really makes you wonder about  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 04:53 PM   #1 
  - No, by and large nobody cares.  naaman fletcher   Jul-30-11 04:57 PM   #3 
  - Now that is what I call a good idea. And after we get done with Somalia  jwirr   Jul-30-11 05:38 PM   #20 
  - I think ordinary people care. But we are not running things.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 06:04 PM   #35 
  - Re-posting of something that got lost down wind of here.  Maraya1969   Jul-31-11 04:34 AM   #95 
     - I'm sorry, I just saw your post right now, and I do not know  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:22 PM   #141 
     - I did look up the Canadian Red Cross and it seems they are  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 08:44 PM   #167 
  - Americans don't even pay attention that the GOP wants to rid the USDA  DontTreadOnMe   Jul-30-11 04:53 PM   #2 
  - +100000!  Fearless   Jul-30-11 06:33 PM   #47 
  - They need a little pretty white poster girl.  Shandris   Jul-30-11 04:57 PM   #4 
  - Anything that works  Patiod   Jul-31-11 08:47 AM   #111 
     - I agree ~ n/t  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 02:03 PM   #127 
  - I gave.  gulliver   Jul-30-11 05:00 PM   #5 
  - Thank you, good to know they are trustworthy.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 08:42 PM   #58 
  - Mercy Corps  lapislzi   Jul-31-11 08:39 AM   #108 
  - Why should it just be America caring?  The Straight Story   Jul-30-11 05:00 PM   #6 
  - I agree. Where are they?  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:24 PM   #16 
  - The Canadian government is doing more.  laundry_queen   Jul-30-11 10:50 PM   #73 
  - Thank you for that information. I agree that people are more  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 12:30 AM   #86 
  - Part of this is the result of colonialism  swilton   Jul-31-11 08:17 AM   #104 
  - UK individuals have given £37m; UK govt pledged £52 million 2 weeks ago  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-31-11 09:57 AM   #118 
  - Good news, I hope it helps and that they can get the aid to the  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 01:34 AM   #150 
  - I don't think the one denies the other...  LanternWaste   Aug-03-11 12:08 PM   #169 
  - Amnesty International blog:  EFerrari   Jul-30-11 05:01 PM   #7 
  - You are Mistaking Despair for Apathy  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 05:07 PM   #8 
  - No, we shouldn't take away "Granny's Medicare" - but we could tax the rich  TBF   Jul-30-11 05:09 PM   #10 
  - And We're Going to Get That Through the Teabagger House How?  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 05:13 PM   #11 
  - We're not going to do it without massive protests, I can tell you that -  TBF   Jul-30-11 09:52 PM   #62 
     - Even That Won't Happen Until Next Year, and the Accompanying Tax Hike on Everybody Else Will Cost Us  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 10:22 PM   #68 
        - Massive Protests can happen NOW, not next year (and they need to) nt  TBF   Jul-30-11 10:24 PM   #69 
           - Do You Really Think Any Amount of Protesting Will Change A Single Teabagger Vote in Congress?  AndyTiedye   Jul-30-11 10:27 PM   #70 
              - Enough people in the streets puts pressure on the very wealthy, and  TBF   Jul-31-11 09:28 AM   #116 
  - No duh!  chervilant   Jul-30-11 11:05 PM   #75 
  - Yes, the American people are caring and always wiling to help  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:18 PM   #15 
  - Oh. Didn't you know? Our world's main problem is too many people.  Octafish   Jul-30-11 05:09 PM   #9 
  - Wow, that is a very disturbing article. Pure evil, if true.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:35 PM   #18 
  - Why do you think we created Africa-Com?  dixiegrrrrl   Jul-30-11 05:48 PM   #26 
  - I have no doubt that they would, will do it to us here.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 07:49 PM   #52 
  - Indeed he is.  hifiguy   Jul-30-11 05:49 PM   #27 
  - And yet, here, he is treated like some kind of wise old man.  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 03:04 AM   #89 
  - But (see reply #98) it wasn't true  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-31-11 10:24 AM   #121 
     - Thank you, I will read the rest  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 02:07 PM   #128 
        - Kissinger is probably a war criminal, and one of the most amoral public figures in recent decades  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-31-11 02:53 PM   #133 
  - The absolute WRONG way to go about population control. Education and empowering  Lorien   Jul-30-11 06:39 PM   #49 
  - From what I have read, including  tomg   Jul-31-11 07:34 AM   #98 
     - Thanks for the heads-up. He was discussed on DU at the time...  Octafish   Aug-01-11 08:35 PM   #166 
  - Oh man, that number is staggering.  Rex   Jul-30-11 05:16 PM   #12 
  - I do.  Forkboy   Jul-30-11 05:17 PM   #13 
  - k & r  girl gone mad   Jul-30-11 05:17 PM   #14 
  - care and hopeless. obviously we dont care enough for our own. nt  seabeyond   Jul-30-11 05:31 PM   #17 
  - It isn't just Somalia. The whole Horn of Africa is facing disaster. What  jwirr   Jul-30-11 05:36 PM   #19 
  - that's what I do also  dana_b   Jul-30-11 05:45 PM   #23 
  - This is an each one reach one situation.  jwirr   Jul-30-11 05:59 PM   #32 
  - I have often wondered about those programs, and I do agree  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 12:07 AM   #81 
  - ABC's correspondent David Muir spotlighted this on evenining news...  Flubadubya   Jul-30-11 05:40 PM   #21 
  - Thank you, I did not see that and am glad it is at least getting  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:47 PM   #25 
     - PBS Newshour interview with Josette Sheeran (UN World Food Program):  WorseBeforeBetter   Jul-30-11 08:12 PM   #55 
        - Thank you, I will watch that when I get later.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 08:33 PM   #56 
  - somalia doesn't have government anymore  undercutter799   Jul-30-11 05:41 PM   #22 
  - Heh, reminds me of a discussion I had with a couple of libertarians  Posteritatis   Jul-30-11 06:13 PM   #38 
     - Somalia was *the* in thing for "anarcho"-capitalists in the early 2000s.  joshcryer   Jul-30-11 10:42 PM   #72 
        - Yeah, this was 2009 or something similarly embarrassingly recent  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 12:12 AM   #83 
           - I truly believe that it worked exactly as the "anarcho"-capitalists could best hope for.  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 03:19 AM   #91 
              - "The unfettered "free market" is nothing more than rule by warlord and king."  I Have A Dream   Jul-31-11 12:23 PM   #126 
  - We tried the Somalia thing...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 05:45 PM   #24 
  - Dragging the American  Aerows   Jul-30-11 05:55 PM   #29 
  - We are willing to keep losing soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 05:56 PM   #30 
  - The loss of the soldiers might not have been the reason, but it was certainly the excuse  Posteritatis   Jul-30-11 06:08 PM   #37 
  - I am not sure what you mean by the 'notion of the Mogadishu Line'?  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 10:10 PM   #66 
     - A line of possible casualties above which the US will not generally intervene somewhere  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 12:10 AM   #82 
        - Okay, thanks for the explanation.  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 01:13 AM   #88 
  - Oh hogwash...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 06:23 PM   #42 
     - If the US had wanted to stay in Somalia, we would have  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 07:59 PM   #54 
     - The problem with Somalia is it was sold as a humanitarian operation only...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 09:10 PM   #60 
     - US unmanned army to fight in Somalia this time.  sad sally   Jul-30-11 10:19 PM   #67 
        - Six wars! Drones not Food!  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 10:33 PM   #71 
           - You're right, I fear it is too late. The US motto has become War At Any Cost  sad sally   Jul-30-11 11:05 PM   #76 
              - Torture and killings made acceptable?  azul   Jul-31-11 12:33 AM   #87 
              - It's amazing, and frightening, what we have come to accept  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 03:31 AM   #93 
     - Except that we ARE in Somalia, goddamnit. We have troops stationed there right now  Leopolds Ghost   Aug-01-11 01:45 AM   #151 
  - The warlords aren't the problem now  cpwm17   Jul-30-11 06:13 PM   #40 
  - 'President Obama is supporting the same Muslims that President  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 06:25 PM   #44 
  - So instead of Warlords we have radical Muslims in charge...  Imajika   Jul-30-11 06:26 PM   #45 
  - Ha ha ha.  Bonobo   Jul-30-11 07:52 PM   #53 
  - The people that are crying for interventions ignore that islamic radicals have  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:08 AM   #103 
     - I think you may be right  malletgirl02   Jul-31-11 12:06 PM   #125 
  - and before it, Biafra & Ethiopia & Bangladesh, and Somalia again  SoCalDem   Jul-30-11 05:54 PM   #28 
  - A huge part of the problem in Somalia  Aerows   Jul-30-11 05:58 PM   #31 
     - and the largest, 'force' is Shahbab (a group of Al Quaeda wannabes)  JCMach1   Jul-30-11 09:59 PM   #65 
  - do they even want us there  DonCoquixote   Jul-30-11 06:01 PM   #33 
  - That's what I was referring to in my previous post  Aerows   Jul-30-11 06:04 PM   #36 
  - i'm sure the people who need help want us there, but there are bad people everywhere  JI7   Jul-31-11 03:29 AM   #92 
  - Not sure what America can do right now  Marrah_G   Jul-30-11 06:04 PM   #34 
  - George Bush intervened in Somalia and destabilized the country  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 06:18 PM   #41 
     - Somalia was not stabilizing under an Islamic govt. when US went in.  tabasco   Jul-30-11 08:39 PM   #57 
     - President George W Bush encouraged and supported  cpwm17   Jul-31-11 12:17 AM   #84 
        - I'm talking about 1992, when the US sent troops into Somalia.  tabasco   Jul-31-11 07:39 AM   #99 
           - You were responding to Sabrina 1  cpwm17   Jul-31-11 08:47 AM   #110 
              - I pretty much agree.  tabasco   Jul-31-11 10:24 AM   #120 
     - How much of the donated money will be siphoned away by radicals and warlords?  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:26 AM   #106 
  - I care and it is tragic.  tnlefty   Jul-30-11 06:13 PM   #39 
  - Somalia has been dying for a few decades at least  saras   Jul-30-11 06:24 PM   #43 
  - 'That's what we get for letting them rule'.  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 07:15 PM   #50 
  - K & R  Raksha   Jul-30-11 06:29 PM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-11 06:36 PM   #48 
  - I'm sending my Democratic National Party money where it will do some good.  Jakes Progress   Jul-30-11 07:24 PM   #51 
  - Their black so people don't give a damn.  Odin2005   Jul-30-11 08:50 PM   #59 
  - Japan received way more media attention. Africa not so much.  Glimmer of Hope   Jul-30-11 09:15 PM   #61 
  - Some wealthy neighboring oil rich countries need to open their wallets this Ramadan  JCMach1   Jul-30-11 09:57 PM   #63 
  - It has begun  jimlup   Jul-30-11 09:57 PM   #64 
  - Because Somalia has been in this kind of crisis for 20 years!  riderinthestorm   Jul-30-11 11:03 PM   #74 
  - The type of changes that are needed in Somalia are the very changes that  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:38 AM   #107 
     - Not sure what you mean, it is the right wing that opposes hum. intervention. Also, the oft-mentioned  Leopolds Ghost   Aug-01-11 01:52 AM   #152 
  - Yup. We turned off the cable TV and sent the money to Oxfam.  kickysnana   Jul-30-11 11:31 PM   #77 
  - Yes people care. But the human brain can get overwhelmed too.  azul   Jul-30-11 11:32 PM   #78 
  - Interesting. It does explain how when you read about  sabrina 1   Jul-30-11 11:58 PM   #80 
  - Like the picture of the napalmed Vietnamese girl in the news back then,  azul   Jul-31-11 12:22 AM   #85 
     - I would find that interesting also. I'm sure many others would  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 03:17 AM   #90 
  - True. The problem seems so big and impossible to remedy, so we try to ignore it.  dorkulon   Jul-31-11 02:47 PM   #132 
  - True, but a few people in this thread made some suggestions that I  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:03 PM   #137 
  - Get back to me on Black Friday, Nov. 25th, when...  bicentennial_baby   Aug-01-11 03:19 AM   #155 
  - hey, let's face it - unless it's a country that has OUR oil under THEIR sand, the US govt really  kath   Jul-30-11 11:45 PM   #79 
  - Your analysis is myopic and ignores history.  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:46 AM   #109 
  - I just FB'd the Canadian red cross because they said they would match  Maraya1969   Jul-31-11 04:28 AM   #94 
  - Of Course We Care  Mosaic   Jul-31-11 06:15 AM   #96 
  - Climate change  n2doc   Jul-31-11 06:46 AM   #97 
  - I believe you are right. :^( And we won't see a lot of assistance in this  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-31-11 07:19 PM   #140 
  - K&R There are so many good people in this world. It is hard to read to what level  midnight   Jul-31-11 07:47 AM   #100 
  - It is a shame that this happens, but happen it does. Even here in the  Obamanaut   Jul-31-11 07:59 AM   #101 
  - Great analysis. American people have a lot to work through now.  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:56 AM   #112 
  - Carrying Capacity of an Ecosystem  perdita9   Jul-31-11 08:04 AM   #102 
  - Birth control, elimination of warlords and radicals, irrigation and road  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 08:59 AM   #113 
  - I, for one, would never reject help to them just because some people say Somalia has Al-Qaeda...  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 08:20 AM   #105 
  - Your post ignores that islamic radicals have threatened aid worker's safety.  bluestate10   Jul-31-11 09:08 AM   #114 
     - What you do is you go in via Somaliland, creating a virtual border for all whom are affected.  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 09:14 AM   #115 
        - At this point I really, really wish people would just start recognizing Somaliland already  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 11:27 AM   #122 
           - I think Cloony needs to focus on Somalia like he did Sudan which resulted in South Sudan.  joshcryer   Jul-31-11 10:45 PM   #147 
  - Libertarian policies, promoted by this president, are turning us into one giant Somalia.  grahamhgreen   Jul-31-11 09:43 AM   #117 
  - No they don't I posted videos this week and no one bothered to view them.  ej510   Jul-31-11 10:03 AM   #119 
  - Of course I care!  lonestarnot   Jul-31-11 11:28 AM   #123 
  - This makes everything we do with our military seem pointless.  gtar100   Jul-31-11 11:30 AM   #124 
  - K & R  northamericancitizen   Jul-31-11 02:11 PM   #129 
  - Yes.  Iggo   Jul-31-11 02:14 PM   #130 
  - exactly...  awoke_in_2003   Jul-31-11 02:21 PM   #131 
  - Is there a way to feel self-righteous about it by just typing something on a message board?  harmonicon   Jul-31-11 03:56 PM   #134 
  - (insert indignant response)  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 05:54 PM   #136 
  - So you don't think these disasters should be reported on then?  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:25 PM   #142 
     - Do not fabricate statements and attribute them to me. It's childish and insulting. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 09:18 PM   #143 
        - Interesting response.  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 09:43 PM   #144 
           - You did not ask a question. You fabricated a statement and responded to that instead. (nt)  Posteritatis   Jul-31-11 09:56 PM   #145 
           - You endorsed an insult aimed at every person in this thread  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 12:21 AM   #149 
           - I insulted you now?  harmonicon   Aug-01-11 03:23 AM   #156 
              - Sorry then, if I misunderstood you.  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 03:43 PM   #163 
                 - I'm just jaded.  harmonicon   Aug-01-11 08:16 PM   #164 
                    - We are all tired and overwhelmed by the destruction  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 08:33 PM   #165 
  - It all depends on motivation for 'typing something' on a message  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:13 PM   #138 
  - I imagine we often feel quite self-righteous ourselves  LanternWaste   Aug-03-11 12:13 PM   #170 
  - We just gave twenty bucks to mercycorp for famine relief-thank you for reminding me to do it NOW  Snoutport   Jul-31-11 04:06 PM   #135 
  - Thank you, Snoutport, someone in the thread above said that is  sabrina 1   Jul-31-11 07:16 PM   #139 
  - Aid doesn't help much if it doesn't get where it is needed.  alarimer   Jul-31-11 10:43 PM   #146 
  - Help is on the way!  OldEurope   Aug-01-11 12:21 AM   #148 
  - Yes, the problems do seem intractable. We can only do what we  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 02:22 PM   #161 
  - If millions of white people died of starvation, what would happen? How would folks respond  Leopolds Ghost   Aug-01-11 02:05 AM   #153 
  - Or, maybe they were trying to protect the Nuclear Power Industry?  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 03:41 PM   #162 
  - Hi Sabrina.  Turborama   Aug-01-11 02:27 AM   #154 
  - Hi Turboram, no I had not seen that.  sabrina 1   Aug-01-11 02:17 PM   #160 
     - Hiya  Turborama   Aug-03-11 11:52 AM   #168 
  - I care, but not enough to involve our taxes.  Atypical Liberal   Aug-01-11 08:35 AM   #157 
  - What was the food and drought situation in Somalia 10 years ago?  Shagbark Hickory   Aug-01-11 08:51 AM   #158 
  - No. Nobody that counts that is.  AngryAmish   Aug-01-11 08:55 AM   #159 
 

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