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Fri Jul-29-11 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #18 |
| 68. What did they say about Libya? |
| -I am officially furious now |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 09:48 AM |
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Of course you are...nt |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 09:49 AM |
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Are you? |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 09:50 AM |
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I am, but about different things than you. |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 09:55 AM |
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He can use the 14th amendment and let the courts sort it out. |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:03 AM |
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No, he can't. |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:05 AM |
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If Obama tries to use the 14th Amendment to circumvent the |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 10:13 AM |
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That would be a distinct possibility. Whatever happened, it |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:14 AM |
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My school has been DU. Was that a mistake? |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:20 AM |
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DU is very variable regarding factual information. |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:23 AM |
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I'm quite discerning and capable of separating the wheat from the chaff. |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:26 AM |
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"A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest..." |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:35 AM |
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If you are a man, that line also applies to you. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 07:48 AM |
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And then there is a smaller group who think they know 'how things |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-29-11 02:48 PM |
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+ a gazillion. nt |
Mojorabbit |
Jul-29-11 10:19 PM |
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Yup - worst case, we get President Joe Biden |
bananas |
Jul-30-11 12:10 AM |
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or he can go down in history as the President who saved us from the crazies. |
tavalon |
Jul-30-11 10:03 AM |
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What you said! |
Ferretherder |
Jul-30-11 06:23 AM |
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Very well stated |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 07:49 AM |
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thank you. the arrogance of such people is astounding. |
tomp |
Jul-30-11 08:41 AM |
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This should have its own thread |
MissDeeds |
Jul-30-11 08:45 AM |
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Well Said! |
Bryn |
Jul-30-11 08:59 AM |
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Well said. nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-30-11 09:32 AM |
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You nailed it sabrina. Thank you! nt |
Desertrose |
Jul-30-11 09:53 AM |
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AMEN! Well said (nt) |
CrawlingChaos |
Jul-30-11 02:57 PM |
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that's right, we should listen to the adults.... |
tomp |
Jul-30-11 08:38 AM |
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George Bush. |
sendero |
Jul-29-11 10:46 AM |
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Bu-bu-but He's A REPUBLICAN! They're EXPECTED to break the rules. We're NOT! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jul-30-11 07:16 AM |
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All I KNOW is that the legal and constitutional experts disagree |
gateley |
Jul-30-11 09:29 AM |
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Obama's own White House attorneys have looked at the 14th |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 10:21 AM |
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No, they have said it is of questionable constitutionality |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:22 AM |
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They told Obama the 14th was a 'no-go.' Are you really arguing that |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 10:29 AM |
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Yup. Let the judges judge, not the lawyers. nt |
LaydeeBug |
Jul-29-11 10:30 AM |
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Good Lord, then why bother having attorneys in the first place? Let's just |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 10:35 AM |
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Shakespeare had a solution larger than firing them all |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 07:56 AM |
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The sentiment to "kill all the lawyers" is uttered by Jack Cade, a |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-30-11 02:49 PM |
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Honestly wasn't that Palin's view |
tammywammy |
Jul-29-11 10:48 AM |
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Do you really want the Supreme Court, with its current members, deciding this issue? Seriously? nt |
Selatius |
Jul-30-11 05:40 AM |
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All lawyers in the Office of White House Counsel were appointed by Obama |
Divernan |
Jul-29-11 06:18 PM |
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Wow, thanks for all the specific detail. Totally get your point about |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 11:31 PM |
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Obama promised transparency re White House Counsel. He hasn't delivered it. Another broken promise! |
Divernan |
Jul-30-11 06:43 AM |
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Excellent point. People don't understand the system. For instance, a plurality of US Debt bonds are |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jul-30-11 07:20 AM |
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Important post. Thank you. nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-30-11 09:31 AM |
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Yes |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 06:28 PM |
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One name |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 08:02 PM |
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Are they the some 'experts' who approved say, torture? |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 07:52 AM |
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Yes. Let's have SCOTUS write an opinion on Section 4. |
msanthrope |
Jul-29-11 11:14 AM |
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Obama was able to find lawyers to give the A-OK for running a new WAR |
bvar22 |
Jul-29-11 10:31 AM |
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and lawyers that find no issues with executing an American citizen without so much as charges, much |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-29-11 07:02 PM |
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What did they say about Libya? |
U4ikLefty |
Jul-29-11 06:34 PM |
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What meaningful Legislation do you forsee passing as long as Republicans control Congress and Obama |
Bandit |
Jul-29-11 10:23 AM |
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Two different questions. |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:49 AM |
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I am fascinated that you seem to think you have a |
enlightenment |
Jul-29-11 10:51 AM |
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You've correctly defined my opinion as opinion. |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:57 AM |
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If you haven't read that blog post yet, you might want to |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 06:36 PM |
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Actually it was correctly defined as opinon which is unsupported |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 08:05 AM |
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Thank you for actually adding something intelligent to the discussion. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-29-11 03:00 PM |
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I hope more and more will. I can't think of anyone more studied |
chill_wind |
Jul-29-11 11:49 PM |
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WOW! |
BobbyBoring |
Jul-30-11 01:53 PM |
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Describe the process of 'duking it out'. What the hell does that |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 08:22 AM |
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Lots of Meaningful legislation being passed |
Progressive dog |
Jul-30-11 09:39 AM |
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So be it, they wanted to do it from day one |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:18 AM |
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True, but the 'Constitutional Crisis' Mineral Man alluded to up-thread |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 10:28 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-29-11 10:24 AM |
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Especialy since he'll be breaking the law if he does 'ues it' (the 14th). Ironic, |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-29-11 10:41 AM |
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So. Clinton was Impeached by a Repuke House and not by the Senate and left office with a 65% |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-29-11 02:33 PM |
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Well, they probably will try to impeach him for NOT using the 14th amendment... |
cascadiance |
Jul-30-11 05:45 AM |
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"high crimes and misdemeanors" |
treestar |
Jul-30-11 01:18 PM |
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One of the articles of impeachment passed out of the House |
coalition_unwilling |
Jul-30-11 02:56 PM |
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I've been reading my pocket constitution a lot lately |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:17 AM |
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President Clinton said that he would exercise his 14th amendment rights in this |
Lorien |
Jul-29-11 07:14 PM |
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put there is a precedent..... |
madmom |
Jul-29-11 10:50 AM |
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If I am not mistaken, Truman invoked the 14th Amendment |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 11:05 AM |
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Debunked. Please read the entire thread you cited.....n/t |
msanthrope |
Jul-29-11 11:16 AM |
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Didn't the pres ignore the war powers resolution to hit Libya? |
jtuck004 |
Jul-29-11 11:17 AM |
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1. That's bullshit. Even Larry Tribe reversed his opinion and now agrees.. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-29-11 02:30 PM |
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You DO REALIZE the $1.6 Trillion it owes to itself is money owed SOCIAL SECURITY, right? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Jul-30-11 07:26 AM |
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Oddly, Truman wasn't impeached over invoking the 14th |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-29-11 03:58 PM |
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The 14th Amendment is the Constitution. |
caseymoz |
Jul-30-11 09:49 AM |
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I keep reading the 14th and no where do I see anything that gives him the authority |
madokie |
Jul-30-11 06:34 AM |
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What do you expect it to say? There was no debt ceiling law when it was written. |
Motown_Johnny |
Jul-30-11 10:46 AM |
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Fascinating. So you've moved from saying 'there is no sell-out deal', to |
Marr |
Jul-29-11 10:04 AM |
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Nope. You're incorrect. Perhaps you should stick to making |
MineralMan |
Jul-29-11 10:10 AM |
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I'm trying to clarify. |
Marr |
Jul-29-11 11:36 AM |
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Yup - those were his scripts and he stuck to them. |
Divernan |
Jul-29-11 08:24 PM |
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WE didn't allow a Republican majority in the House. |
EFerrari |
Jul-29-11 06:30 PM |
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Our entire region did not elect a single new Republican |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-30-11 08:15 AM |
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What I am angry about is that the policies of 'compromise' |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-29-11 02:28 PM |
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Correct |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 06:17 PM |
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Of course you never are! n-t |
Logical |
Jul-29-11 10:32 AM |
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Well, it seems the fourteenth amendment solution is gaining traction |
tavalon |
Jul-30-11 10:01 AM |
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You Are Not the Only One |
we can do it |
Jul-29-11 09:50 AM |
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He should get Republican votes when even Boehner can't? |
lunatica |
Jul-29-11 10:00 AM |
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In order to use the 14th Amendment |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Jul-29-11 10:03 AM |
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I thought the deadline was August first |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:05 AM |
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I agree |
Strelnikov_ |
Jul-29-11 10:12 AM |
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It's not over.... |
Renew Deal |
Jul-29-11 10:14 AM |
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Will Pitt has a good take on this: |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Jul-29-11 10:21 AM |
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He always does |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 10:25 AM |
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It's not Those Goddamned Teabaggers. It's our elected officials who fucking stand UP to them. nt |
LaydeeBug |
Jul-29-11 10:29 AM |
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I agree. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-29-11 03:27 PM |
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It's both |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 06:23 PM |
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Oh, for Christ's sake |
Abq_Sarah |
Jul-30-11 02:06 PM |
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The President and Boehner thought they were playing Russian roulette with blanks. |
Prism |
Jul-29-11 10:33 AM |
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Unfortunately, Obama has NO SPINE ..... |
divvy |
Jul-29-11 10:34 AM |
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SPINE has nothing to do with it. n/t |
Fire1 |
Jul-29-11 11:10 AM |
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Nope, he wants those cuts to Social Security and Medicare, dammit! |
Lorien |
Jul-29-11 07:04 PM |
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Jul-30-11 04:40 AM |
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Courage to do what? |
treestar |
Jul-30-11 01:18 PM |
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Right now I'm just disgusted. If the bottom falls out next week... |
TreasonousBastard |
Jul-29-11 10:53 AM |
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You cited Clinton and Nixon, but you forgot one... |
Wednesdays |
Jul-30-11 10:36 AM |
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I'm having the same reaction and so is everyone I know. No one thought this going to get to this |
Puregonzo1188 |
Jul-29-11 11:35 AM |
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These terrorists sure do seem hellbent on that. |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 06:26 PM |
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I was officially furious a couple of weeks ago. |
Hatchling |
Jul-29-11 02:16 PM |
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To those saying "no way" to the 14th, |
Proles |
Jul-29-11 02:38 PM |
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I and many others here lived thru 1968, Chicago, etc. The Left was NEVER this whole-cloth |
WinkyDink |
Jul-29-11 06:21 PM |
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The left. I don't think you've noticed who is perpetrating this asshattery |
tavalon |
Jul-29-11 06:27 PM |
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Its mostly the color of his skin |
madokie |
Jul-30-11 06:29 AM |
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Forget the 14th. It's not going to happen. |
badtoworse |
Jul-30-11 08:43 AM |
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No thanks. |
tavalon |
Jul-30-11 10:02 AM |
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You should be upset |
SmittynMo |
Jul-30-11 09:25 AM |
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Call Tea Party HQ and tell them |
treestar |
Jul-30-11 10:38 AM |
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I have been furious all week. Selling stuff on Ebay to prepare for no August check. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-30-11 02:33 PM |
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You nailed it. |
Ferricadouzer |
Jul-30-11 05:00 PM |
#122 |
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