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32. The President and Boehner thought they were playing Russian roulette with blanks.
Newp. The crazy was loaded.
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  -I am officially furious now tavalon  Jul-29-11 09:48 AM   #0 
  - Of course you are...nt  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 09:49 AM   #1 
  - Are you?  tavalon   Jul-29-11 09:50 AM   # 
  - I am, but about different things than you.  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 09:55 AM   #3 
  - He can use the 14th amendment and let the courts sort it out.  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:03 AM   #6 
  - No, he can't.  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:05 AM   #9 
  - If Obama tries to use the 14th Amendment to circumvent the  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 10:13 AM   #12 
  - That would be a distinct possibility. Whatever happened, it  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:14 AM   #14 
  - My school has been DU. Was that a mistake?  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:20 AM   #17 
  - DU is very variable regarding factual information.  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:23 AM   #22 
  - I'm quite discerning and capable of separating the wheat from the chaff.  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:26 AM   #25 
  - "A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest..."  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:35 AM   #35 
     - If you are a man, that line also applies to you.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 07:48 AM   #89 
  - And then there is a smaller group who think they know 'how things  sabrina 1   Jul-29-11 02:48 PM   #56 
  - + a gazillion. nt  Mojorabbit   Jul-29-11 10:19 PM   #75 
  - Yup - worst case, we get President Joe Biden  bananas   Jul-30-11 12:10 AM   #78 
  - or he can go down in history as the President who saved us from the crazies.  tavalon   Jul-30-11 10:03 AM   #110 
  - What you said!  Ferretherder   Jul-30-11 06:23 AM   #82 
  - Very well stated  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 07:49 AM   #90 
  - thank you. the arrogance of such people is astounding.  tomp   Jul-30-11 08:41 AM   #97 
  - This should have its own thread  MissDeeds   Jul-30-11 08:45 AM   #99 
  - Well Said!  Bryn   Jul-30-11 08:59 AM   #100 
  - Well said. nt  woo me with science   Jul-30-11 09:32 AM   #104 
  - You nailed it sabrina. Thank you! nt  Desertrose   Jul-30-11 09:53 AM   #107 
  - AMEN! Well said (nt)  CrawlingChaos   Jul-30-11 02:57 PM   #121 
  - that's right, we should listen to the adults....  tomp   Jul-30-11 08:38 AM   #96 
  - George Bush.  sendero   Jul-29-11 10:46 AM   #37 
  - Bu-bu-but He's A REPUBLICAN! They're EXPECTED to break the rules. We're NOT!  Leopolds Ghost   Jul-30-11 07:16 AM   #86 
  - All I KNOW is that the legal and constitutional experts disagree  gateley   Jul-30-11 09:29 AM   #102 
  - Obama's own White House attorneys have looked at the 14th  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 10:21 AM   #18 
  - No, they have said it is of questionable constitutionality  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:22 AM   #20 
  - They told Obama the 14th was a 'no-go.' Are you really arguing that  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 10:29 AM   #27 
  - Yup. Let the judges judge, not the lawyers. nt  LaydeeBug   Jul-29-11 10:30 AM   #29 
  - Good Lord, then why bother having attorneys in the first place? Let's just  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 10:35 AM   #34 
  - Shakespeare had a solution larger than firing them all  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 07:56 AM   #92 
     - The sentiment to "kill all the lawyers" is uttered by Jack Cade, a  coalition_unwilling   Jul-30-11 02:49 PM   #119 
  - Honestly wasn't that Palin's view  tammywammy   Jul-29-11 10:48 AM   #38 
  - Do you really want the Supreme Court, with its current members, deciding this issue? Seriously? nt  Selatius   Jul-30-11 05:40 AM   #80 
  - All lawyers in the Office of White House Counsel were appointed by Obama  Divernan   Jul-29-11 06:18 PM   #61 
  - Wow, thanks for all the specific detail. Totally get your point about  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 11:31 PM   #76 
  - Obama promised transparency re White House Counsel. He hasn't delivered it. Another broken promise!  Divernan   Jul-30-11 06:43 AM   #85 
  - Excellent point. People don't understand the system. For instance, a plurality of US Debt bonds are  Leopolds Ghost   Jul-30-11 07:20 AM   #87 
  - Important post. Thank you. nt  woo me with science   Jul-30-11 09:31 AM   #103 
  - Yes  tavalon   Jul-29-11 06:28 PM   #66 
  - One name  tavalon   Jul-29-11 08:02 PM   #73 
  - Are they the some 'experts' who approved say, torture?  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 07:52 AM   #91 
  - Yes. Let's have SCOTUS write an opinion on Section 4.  msanthrope   Jul-29-11 11:14 AM   #46 
  - Obama was able to find lawyers to give the A-OK for running a new WAR  bvar22   Jul-29-11 10:31 AM   #30 
  - and lawyers that find no issues with executing an American citizen without so much as charges, much  TheKentuckian   Jul-29-11 07:02 PM   #70 
  - What did they say about Libya?  U4ikLefty   Jul-29-11 06:34 PM   #68 
  - What meaningful Legislation do you forsee passing as long as Republicans control Congress and Obama  Bandit   Jul-29-11 10:23 AM   #21 
  - Two different questions.  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:49 AM   #39 
  - I am fascinated that you seem to think you have a  enlightenment   Jul-29-11 10:51 AM   #41 
  - You've correctly defined my opinion as opinion.  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:57 AM   #43 
  - If you haven't read that blog post yet, you might want to  tavalon   Jul-29-11 06:36 PM   #69 
  - Actually it was correctly defined as opinon which is unsupported  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 08:05 AM   #93 
  - Thank you for actually adding something intelligent to the discussion.  sabrina 1   Jul-29-11 03:00 PM   #57 
  - I hope more and more will. I can't think of anyone more studied  chill_wind   Jul-29-11 11:49 PM   #77 
  - WOW!  BobbyBoring   Jul-30-11 01:53 PM   #116 
  - Describe the process of 'duking it out'. What the hell does that  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 08:22 AM   #95 
  - Lots of Meaningful legislation being passed  Progressive dog   Jul-30-11 09:39 AM   #105 
  - So be it, they wanted to do it from day one  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:18 AM   #16 
  - True, but the 'Constitutional Crisis' Mineral Man alluded to up-thread  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 10:28 AM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-29-11 10:24 AM   #23 
  - Especialy since he'll be breaking the law if he does 'ues it' (the 14th). Ironic,  coalition_unwilling   Jul-29-11 10:41 AM   #36 
  - So. Clinton was Impeached by a Repuke House and not by the Senate and left office with a 65%  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-29-11 02:33 PM   #54 
  - Well, they probably will try to impeach him for NOT using the 14th amendment...  cascadiance   Jul-30-11 05:45 AM   #81 
  - "high crimes and misdemeanors"  treestar   Jul-30-11 01:18 PM   #115 
     - One of the articles of impeachment passed out of the House  coalition_unwilling   Jul-30-11 02:56 PM   #120 
  - I've been reading my pocket constitution a lot lately  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:17 AM   #15 
  - President Clinton said that he would exercise his 14th amendment rights in this  Lorien   Jul-29-11 07:14 PM   #72 
  - put there is a precedent.....  madmom   Jul-29-11 10:50 AM   #40 
  - If I am not mistaken, Truman invoked the 14th Amendment  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 11:05 AM   #44 
  - Debunked. Please read the entire thread you cited.....n/t  msanthrope   Jul-29-11 11:16 AM   #47 
  - Didn't the pres ignore the war powers resolution to hit Libya?  jtuck004   Jul-29-11 11:17 AM   #48 
  - 1. That's bullshit. Even Larry Tribe reversed his opinion and now agrees..  girl gone mad   Jul-29-11 02:30 PM   #53 
  - You DO REALIZE the $1.6 Trillion it owes to itself is money owed SOCIAL SECURITY, right?  Leopolds Ghost   Jul-30-11 07:26 AM   #88 
  - Oddly, Truman wasn't impeached over invoking the 14th  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-29-11 03:58 PM   #59 
  - The 14th Amendment is the Constitution.  caseymoz   Jul-30-11 09:49 AM   #106 
  - I keep reading the 14th and no where do I see anything that gives him the authority  madokie   Jul-30-11 06:34 AM   #84 
     - What do you expect it to say? There was no debt ceiling law when it was written.  Motown_Johnny   Jul-30-11 10:46 AM   #113 
  - Fascinating. So you've moved from saying 'there is no sell-out deal', to  Marr   Jul-29-11 10:04 AM   #7 
  - Nope. You're incorrect. Perhaps you should stick to making  MineralMan   Jul-29-11 10:10 AM   #10 
     - I'm trying to clarify.  Marr   Jul-29-11 11:36 AM   #50 
        - Yup - those were his scripts and he stuck to them.  Divernan   Jul-29-11 08:24 PM   #74 
  - WE didn't allow a Republican majority in the House.  EFerrari   Jul-29-11 06:30 PM   #67 
     - Our entire region did not elect a single new Republican  Bluenorthwest   Jul-30-11 08:15 AM   #94 
  - What I am angry about is that the policies of 'compromise'  sabrina 1   Jul-29-11 02:28 PM   #52 
     - Correct  tavalon   Jul-29-11 06:17 PM   #60 
  - Of course you never are! n-t  Logical   Jul-29-11 10:32 AM   #31 
  - Well, it seems the fourteenth amendment solution is gaining traction  tavalon   Jul-30-11 10:01 AM   #108 
  - You Are Not the Only One  we can do it   Jul-29-11 09:50 AM   #2 
  - He should get Republican votes when even Boehner can't?  lunatica   Jul-29-11 10:00 AM   #4 
  - In order to use the 14th Amendment  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jul-29-11 10:03 AM   #5 
  - I thought the deadline was August first  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:05 AM   #8 
  - I agree  Strelnikov_   Jul-29-11 10:12 AM   #11 
  - It's not over....  Renew Deal   Jul-29-11 10:14 AM   #13 
  - Will Pitt has a good take on this:  The Velveteen Ocelot   Jul-29-11 10:21 AM   #19 
  - He always does  tavalon   Jul-29-11 10:25 AM   #24 
  - It's not Those Goddamned Teabaggers. It's our elected officials who fucking stand UP to them. nt  LaydeeBug   Jul-29-11 10:29 AM   #28 
  - I agree.  girl gone mad   Jul-29-11 03:27 PM   #58 
  - It's both  tavalon   Jul-29-11 06:23 PM   #63 
     - Oh, for Christ's sake  Abq_Sarah   Jul-30-11 02:06 PM   #117 
  - The President and Boehner thought they were playing Russian roulette with blanks.  Prism   Jul-29-11 10:33 AM   #32 
  - Unfortunately, Obama has NO SPINE .....  divvy   Jul-29-11 10:34 AM   #33 
  - SPINE has nothing to do with it. n/t  Fire1   Jul-29-11 11:10 AM   #45 
  - Nope, he wants those cuts to Social Security and Medicare, dammit!  Lorien   Jul-29-11 07:04 PM   #71 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-11 04:40 AM   #79 
  - Courage to do what?  treestar   Jul-30-11 01:18 PM   #114 
  - Right now I'm just disgusted. If the bottom falls out next week...  TreasonousBastard   Jul-29-11 10:53 AM   #42 
  - You cited Clinton and Nixon, but you forgot one...  Wednesdays   Jul-30-11 10:36 AM   #111 
  - I'm having the same reaction and so is everyone I know. No one thought this going to get to this  Puregonzo1188   Jul-29-11 11:35 AM   #49 
  - These terrorists sure do seem hellbent on that.  tavalon   Jul-29-11 06:26 PM   #64 
  - I was officially furious a couple of weeks ago.  Hatchling   Jul-29-11 02:16 PM   #51 
  - To those saying "no way" to the 14th,  Proles   Jul-29-11 02:38 PM   #55 
  - I and many others here lived thru 1968, Chicago, etc. The Left was NEVER this whole-cloth  WinkyDink   Jul-29-11 06:21 PM   #62 
  - The left. I don't think you've noticed who is perpetrating this asshattery  tavalon   Jul-29-11 06:27 PM   #65 
  - Its mostly the color of his skin  madokie   Jul-30-11 06:29 AM   #83 
  - Forget the 14th. It's not going to happen.  badtoworse   Jul-30-11 08:43 AM   #98 
  - No thanks.  tavalon   Jul-30-11 10:02 AM   #109 
  - You should be upset  SmittynMo   Jul-30-11 09:25 AM   #101 
  - Call Tea Party HQ and tell them  treestar   Jul-30-11 10:38 AM   #112 
  - I have been furious all week. Selling stuff on Ebay to prepare for no August check.  sarcasmo   Jul-30-11 02:33 PM   #118 
  - You nailed it.  Ferricadouzer   Jul-30-11 05:00 PM   #122 

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