| 96. "Plan" to Work Longer? |
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I am 53. I got out of college and went to work in retail. I was happy and good at it and got promoted. I planned on working for that company 'til I retired. That company no longer exists. Some version of this has happened to most of my career "plans" since then. Most of my friends have had "plans" that were similarly derailed. More than once.
I went to work for the state three years ago because "planning" was a little easier in the public sector. The facility I work at is constantly rumored to be closing. If it does, the state is usually pretty good at finding most people another job with the state. No guarantee. My plan? To try to stay with the state in whatever capacity I can long enough to get a pension that will keep me off the steam grate. Whe it comes to employment, I would suggest that "plans" are pretty worthless over the long haul. They may work out and they may not. The only viable plan is the plan to become a billionaire, keep the loot under the bed, and enjoy a happy retirement.
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| -Report: Obama Prepared To Raise The Age Of Medicare Eligibility Age To 67 |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 08:42 AM |
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I wonder if Obama knows this would gurantee him a single term presidency. |
Lasher |
Jul-28-11 08:44 AM |
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He will lose Florida and Arizona, at a minimum. |
closeupready |
Jul-28-11 08:51 AM |
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Would a Repub put it back to 65? |
MoonRiver |
Jul-28-11 11:19 AM |
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when will you get tired |
SwampG8r |
Jul-28-11 11:37 AM |
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+1 n/t |
ejbr |
Jul-28-11 11:12 PM |
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A choice between... |
JHB |
Jul-29-11 06:29 AM |
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I like the way you phrase that! |
latebloomer |
Jul-29-11 07:37 AM |
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Name removed |
Jul-28-11 11:51 AM |
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+ |
inna |
Jul-28-11 02:33 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-28-11 02:51 PM |
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Obama sure won't lower it |
n2doc |
Jul-28-11 11:58 AM |
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And what has that got to do with anything? It was that kind of |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-28-11 02:58 PM |
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Republicans are worse? The last few years gave felt NO different to me |
Dutchmaster |
Jul-29-11 07:33 AM |
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He's still left of Satan so |
hulka38 |
Jul-29-11 07:25 AM |
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They don't have to raise it to 70. They just need to tell |
A Simple Game |
Jul-29-11 07:30 AM |
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Ain't that the sad truth! n/t |
Frisbee |
Jul-29-11 08:51 AM |
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he would have negotiated them up to 76. |
russspeakeasy |
Jul-29-11 08:57 AM |
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The Republicans have |
sulphurdunn |
Jul-29-11 08:42 AM |
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PA. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:51 AM |
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yep, and maybe Ohio. |
closeupready |
Jul-28-11 12:49 PM |
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He's working for the other side. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 04:27 AM |
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He's not working for the Republicons. He's working for Wall Street |
Creideiki |
Jul-29-11 06:33 AM |
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That's the "other side"...............nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 07:06 AM |
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I'm up for a class war. |
Creideiki |
Jul-29-11 06:54 PM |
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Is Arizona up for grabs? |
Creideiki |
Jul-29-11 06:32 AM |
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i don't know- i think he would like to get it lower - or have a single payer alteernative |
certainot |
Jul-28-11 08:51 AM |
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Really? If you want to have it lower, why would you agree to something the complete opposite? |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 08:54 AM |
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maybe to raise the debt ceiling without getting to the point soon where all |
certainot |
Jul-28-11 08:58 AM |
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I'm sorry but once you harm a program, it's very hard to restore it. Look at the MMA. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 09:11 AM |
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Completely bizarro. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:52 AM |
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Cognitive dissonance |
Hawkowl |
Jul-28-11 11:52 AM |
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it's called politics, democracy, and who's got the power. if youve been watching politics for the |
certainot |
Jul-28-11 05:58 PM |
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"and the idea that a black man could walk into the white billionaires house and kick ass is silly.." |
BulletproofLandshark |
Jul-28-11 06:29 PM |
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his position is weakened because the left ignores the right's best weapon, because |
certainot |
Jul-28-11 11:58 PM |
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It wasn't us that allowed massive deregulation of the airwaves or allowed monopolies to buy up |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-29-11 05:18 PM |
#260 |
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So you can read minds now? |
Creideiki |
Jul-29-11 06:34 AM |
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And that he would deserve it. |
damntexdem |
Jul-28-11 10:10 AM |
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I wish there was a scenario for that to happen. I cant come up with one. Maybe you can help? nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-28-11 07:06 PM |
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Maybe I could send a candid reply to one of those fundraising emails. |
Lasher |
Jul-28-11 08:12 PM |
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I send them back with comments all the time. Doubt they have effect. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-29-11 01:55 PM |
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He also plans another payroll |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 04:27 AM |
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THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEBT! |
Fearless |
Jul-28-11 08:44 AM |
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because the greedy corporate jet fume sucking dittohead teabaggers |
certainot |
Jul-28-11 09:13 AM |
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You are correct, it is not. |
Lasher |
Jul-28-11 09:31 AM |
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Medicare Age |
tallsherri |
Jul-28-11 11:24 AM |
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And the millions that cannot afford it will have to hope they make it to 67. |
Rex |
Jul-28-11 11:40 AM |
#94 |
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Whose health reform law? And welcome to DU! |
Fearless |
Jul-28-11 11:51 AM |
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That's a big fat maybe...this is absurd. This proposal is immoral and produces no savings...n/t |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:51 AM |
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".... purchase health insurance at a reasonable cost "? Bwahahahahahahahahah! |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:53 AM |
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Oh, yeah. |
cordelia |
Jul-28-11 02:38 PM |
#144 |
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I'm paying a retired-but-group rate of $500+/mo. I asked the Indiv. rate and was told "$900+." |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 04:38 PM |
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Maybe a giant Monkey |
Hawkowl |
Jul-28-11 11:54 AM |
#108 |
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"planning and execution", is right. It never ceases to amaze me that this simple fact |
inna |
Jul-28-11 02:44 PM |
#146 |
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Mmmm.... Gummy bears... Mmmmmmm |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 04:38 PM |
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It's so easy to get health insurance on the open market when you're 65 or 66! |
bullwinkle428 |
Jul-28-11 08:45 AM |
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I know. That's why Medicare was invented in the first place. Insurers wouldn't cover seniors. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 08:48 AM |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 10:48 AM |
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He'll be long out of office by then. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:54 AM |
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Those of us who are self-employed know this. The rest of America will learn the hard way |
PA Democrat |
Jul-28-11 11:57 AM |
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After 2014, businesses will have no incentive to provide health insurance coverage anymore |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-28-11 04:43 PM |
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So true - |
LibertyLover |
Jul-29-11 08:44 AM |
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Ahh the old we got ours fuck you ploy |
CBGLuthier |
Jul-28-11 08:46 AM |
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For certain he doesn't have to worry about this. Nope. Doesn't affect him or his. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-28-11 09:02 AM |
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Oh for pete's sake - just raise the payroll reduction. |
DURHAM D |
Jul-28-11 08:48 AM |
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Agreed. Or allow everyone to participate. That would pretty much end private insurance...great! |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 08:49 AM |
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We would have to keep raising it quite often. |
dkf |
Jul-28-11 09:15 AM |
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IT'S THE Obvious answer! |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-28-11 11:09 AM |
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Let's face it, we live longer and can work longer. |
theoldman |
Jul-28-11 08:49 AM |
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Not necessarily. What about people who get laid off? This doesn't even save money so why support it? |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 08:49 AM |
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OMFG, what world do you live in? |
bread_and_roses |
Jul-28-11 09:06 AM |
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There are a hell of a lot of elders staying in the work force who DON'T have health insurance |
raccoon |
Jul-28-11 09:58 AM |
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Exactly so. |
bread_and_roses |
Jul-28-11 10:09 AM |
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Amen! |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-28-11 10:52 AM |
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exactly! thank you |
inna |
Jul-28-11 02:51 PM |
#147 |
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65 becomes "early" retirement now? |
BeyondGeography |
Jul-28-11 09:08 AM |
#23 |
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At what jobs? n/t |
onyourleft |
Jul-28-11 10:03 AM |
#47 |
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You are how old, and doing what work? Tell me "67" and "construction," and MAYBE I'll give you |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:55 AM |
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Too bad there aren't any jobs for those who can work longer. eom |
City Lights |
Jul-28-11 01:38 PM |
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delusional |
dana_b |
Jul-28-11 01:45 PM |
#129 |
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I guess you'll have buck-up and quit whining. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 04:37 AM |
#211 |
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One of the most uninformed posts I've seen in a while |
Cali_Democrat |
Jul-28-11 02:04 PM |
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Use your head. Just because we could work longer doesnt mean there will be jobs for us. |
rhett o rick |
Jul-28-11 07:07 PM |
#184 |
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Nothing personal but I do not like you. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 04:35 AM |
#210 |
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Let's face it: you have no fucking clue what you're talking about |
_ed_ |
Jul-29-11 07:29 AM |
#229 |
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Are you hiring? Please PM me your address so I can send you my resume. |
City Lights |
Jul-29-11 08:40 AM |
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Totally unacceptable. |
LiberalEsto |
Jul-28-11 08:50 AM |
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And meanwhile the rich and corps get to enjoy this country for free, while we take up the slack |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-28-11 08:50 AM |
#11 |
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Never. |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-28-11 09:16 AM |
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At the bottom of this, is lobbying and the fact that to run for office, one needs HUGE $$$$$$$$$$ |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-28-11 09:19 AM |
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The idea of campaign reform is as dead when our party |
sad sally |
Jul-28-11 12:08 PM |
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Exactly, and that means there are NO elections at all. We may as well be watching |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-28-11 12:32 PM |
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If he does, I'm writing someone in next year. |
closeupready |
Jul-28-11 08:50 AM |
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Pete DeFazio for president! .........nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 04:41 AM |
#212 |
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So much for 'Medicare for all' |
izquierdista |
Jul-28-11 08:58 AM |
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Not much difference is there? And what little difference there is, is bad for most of us. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-28-11 09:04 AM |
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Well at least I will get to see my boomer coworkers enjoy retirement. |
newportdadde |
Jul-28-11 08:59 AM |
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Yep. Our fault for when we were born! We had the Beatles, too! |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 04:40 PM |
#163 |
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Life expectancy is 15 years longer now than when Medicare was established. |
Lil Missy |
Jul-28-11 09:07 AM |
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Where is that stat from? That is way off. Life expectancy argument is bull. Insurers hate seniors |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 09:13 AM |
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Sorry. Here's the source: |
Lil Missy |
Jul-28-11 09:22 AM |
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Medicare wasn't enacted until 1965. Also, people have a rough time getting health care before 65 as |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 09:27 AM |
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That's referring to Social Security, not Medicare. eom |
City Lights |
Jul-28-11 09:30 AM |
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That link is to an article about SS ,not a stat sheet |
Jim_Shorts |
Jul-28-11 11:35 PM |
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This is false, 1965 - 70.2, 2010 - 78.2 |
newportdadde |
Jul-28-11 09:23 AM |
#33 |
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It is a big fucking deal to people who might die hungry and poor because of this. |
jtuck004 |
Jul-28-11 10:14 AM |
#52 |
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Oh FFS. Retirement age would increase as well. They would still have employer insurance. |
Lil Missy |
Jul-28-11 10:59 AM |
#67 |
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You are not accounting for people who get laid off and can never find employment. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:06 AM |
#69 |
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Arrrggghhh! |
RobinA |
Jul-28-11 11:26 AM |
#84 |
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"THEY"? You're partaking of the Fountain of Youth, I presume? ("Employer insurance"?) |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:58 AM |
#114 |
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Where are these people employed? |
City Lights |
Jul-28-11 12:52 PM |
#123 |
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They. Don't. Have. Jobs. Do I need to type slower? n/t |
jtuck004 |
Jul-28-11 01:17 PM |
#124 |
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evidently because she keeps pushing this b.s. |
dana_b |
Jul-28-11 01:49 PM |
#130 |
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There are those for whom Fox is an easier meal... (not personal, just as a general observation) |
jtuck004 |
Jul-28-11 05:12 PM |
#173 |
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Oh FFS, you forgot about the self-employed. |
PA Democrat |
Jul-28-11 01:50 PM |
#131 |
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Yeah, if we had employers |
nobodyspecial |
Jul-28-11 02:23 PM |
#141 |
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Mark my words, employer insurance is going to be an archaic perk before long |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-28-11 04:51 PM |
#168 |
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For a great many of us, it already is. |
eShirl |
Jul-29-11 06:01 AM |
#222 |
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Do people who work at WalMart have employer insurance? |
_ed_ |
Jul-29-11 07:38 AM |
#239 |
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SAY WHAT?! Uh, NO. Americans haven't gained 15 yrs since the LBJ Administration, FGS. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 11:57 AM |
#112 |
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And apparently we are trying our hardest to reverse that trend |
Evoman |
Jul-28-11 12:11 PM |
#120 |
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Wrong |
_ed_ |
Jul-29-11 07:31 AM |
#231 |
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Hillary is lookiing better everyday. |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Jul-28-11 09:12 AM |
#25 |
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Hillary is 63 will be 64 in Oct. and 65 in 2012 according to most she is too feeble to hold a job |
Pisces |
Jul-28-11 10:28 AM |
#55 |
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What about retiring before you're too feeble to enjoy it |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-28-11 11:11 AM |
#76 |
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What do you mean "too feeble to hold a job" at 65? |
RebelOne |
Jul-28-11 01:34 PM |
#126 |
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Where are these "regular jobs" of which you speak? |
City Lights |
Jul-28-11 02:20 PM |
#138 |
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Completely stupid "logic." No-one is claiming automatic feebleness. But one trusts you HAVE heard of |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 04:43 PM |
#165 |
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You're a massive fool |
_ed_ |
Jul-29-11 07:32 AM |
#232 |
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You fuck off. I was only pointing out you can't argue out of the side of you mouth. If Hillary is |
Pisces |
Jul-29-11 11:01 AM |
#256 |
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The actions of the President these past several weeks have destroyed any trust left between liberals |
still_one |
Jul-28-11 09:15 AM |
#29 |
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How does he not think he won't be reviled after pulling this crap? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-28-11 09:23 AM |
#34 |
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It still doesn't mean progressives won't vote for him in 2012, especially if a tea party element |
still_one |
Jul-28-11 09:28 AM |
#37 |
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If they vote for him, |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-28-11 09:52 AM |
#44 |
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It can be argued that if they vote for him it isn't because they endorse his inane proposals to cut |
still_one |
Jul-28-11 10:08 AM |
#49 |
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That is "logic" that has boxed us in for the last twenty years. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-28-11 10:53 AM |
#63 |
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That was part of the plan. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 04:50 AM |
#213 |
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Obama's consideration of this cut to Medicare |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-28-11 09:24 AM |
#35 |
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Thank you. Tea baggers are already running ads that they are the defenders of Medicare. We are |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 09:34 AM |
#41 |
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I keep hearing this. |
OnionPatch |
Jul-29-11 08:08 AM |
#242 |
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If Obama doesn't want a second term he should step back and allow |
INdemo |
Jul-28-11 09:28 AM |
#38 |
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I, truly, do not understand why so many blindly support this man. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-28-11 09:46 AM |
#42 |
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A visual aid: |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 10:55 AM |
#65 |
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Thanks N/T |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-28-11 01:28 PM |
#125 |
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Great stuff...lol!!! |
U4ikLefty |
Jul-28-11 02:41 PM |
#145 |
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Beginning in 2014 |
loyalsister |
Jul-28-11 09:49 AM |
#43 |
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The problem is the costs of paying for insurance when you are in you mid-sixties. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-28-11 09:55 AM |
#45 |
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WE do |
loyalsister |
Jul-28-11 10:24 AM |
#54 |
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Report: Obama prepared to Raise The Age of Medicare Eligibility to 100 |
cbdo2007 |
Jul-28-11 10:05 AM |
#48 |
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WOW just wow. No, sorry. Denial isn't a good excuse anymore n/t |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 03:00 PM |
#150 |
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67 to start for current 40 yr old and under is reasonable. We are living longer and working longer. |
Pisces |
Jul-28-11 10:18 AM |
#53 |
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Totally Agree... |
RoadRage |
Jul-28-11 10:30 AM |
#58 |
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Wait til you hit your 60's before you say it's no big deal. |
Desertrose |
Jul-28-11 11:09 AM |
#71 |
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Because nobody wants to employ people in their 50's and 60's, that's why. |
Dappleganger |
Jul-28-11 11:09 AM |
#72 |
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This is ridiculous. False choices. Let's force people to work until they die so they never collect |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:13 AM |
#77 |
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Who is 'we'? Life expectancy for African American Men is 70.9 |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-28-11 11:19 AM |
#80 |
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Well we are givng them 20 years to brace themselves. What's wrong with you? |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 11:26 AM |
#85 |
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No I can't. It is really depressing... |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:50 AM |
#97 |
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With fucks like these the Republicans are redundant. |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-28-11 05:34 PM |
#174 |
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THANK YOU |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 07:49 PM |
#187 |
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Exactly! |
Piltdown13 |
Jul-28-11 04:36 PM |
#159 |
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The GOP hearts you. Really they do. |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 11:24 AM |
#83 |
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Who is talking about dismantling???? I said people are living longer and 20+ yr time to plan is |
Pisces |
Jul-28-11 04:30 PM |
#157 |
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"Democrats" is capitalized the same as "Republicans." J/S. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 04:46 PM |
#167 |
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No way in hell. Keep your hands off medicare. |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 04:57 PM |
#170 |
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"none at all"? |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:32 AM |
#215 |
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People aren't living longer |
_ed_ |
Jul-29-11 07:41 AM |
#240 |
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Got Numbers |
RobinA |
Jul-28-11 11:33 AM |
#89 |
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Where are people working longer? |
City Lights |
Jul-28-11 01:40 PM |
#128 |
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May you get your wish, and need it. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 04:45 PM |
#166 |
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I agree. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jul-28-11 06:48 PM |
#182 |
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"Reasonable" to well-off latte liberals, I'm sure n/t |
brentspeak |
Jul-28-11 08:09 PM |
#190 |
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I'm well-off? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jul-28-11 10:57 PM |
#197 |
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When people do not have adequate |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:25 AM |
#214 |
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WE ARE NOT LIVING LONGER YOU FUCKING FOOL! |
_ed_ |
Jul-29-11 07:35 AM |
#235 |
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Idiot statement, pure idiocy |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-29-11 07:36 AM |
#237 |
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Inherently Unfair |
ProfessorGAC |
Jul-28-11 10:29 AM |
#56 |
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As a 34 year old.. I have no problems with this... |
RoadRage |
Jul-28-11 10:30 AM |
#57 |
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Uh what does Medicare have to do with "checks coming in"? |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 10:45 AM |
#59 |
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Sorry, wrong place. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jul-28-11 06:33 PM |
#181 |
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Why on earth do you assume that? That's just what anti social safety net people want you to think |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:09 AM |
#73 |
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I'm opting for the "better safe then sorry" option.. |
RoadRage |
Jul-28-11 11:36 AM |
#92 |
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"Plan" to Work Longer? |
RobinA |
Jul-28-11 11:47 AM |
#96 |
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state employment |
shanti |
Jul-28-11 01:54 PM |
#133 |
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Your logic is 100% specious. But you go ahead and save; I'm sure you'll stay very healthy forever. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-28-11 12:02 PM |
#115 |
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Where are these people to which you're referring working? |
City Lights |
Jul-28-11 01:57 PM |
#134 |
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bullshit |
dana_b |
Jul-28-11 02:01 PM |
#135 |
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You idiot. There wont be jobs for anyone over 50. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-28-11 07:09 PM |
#185 |
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Sorry, my calling you an idiot was wrong. You are just having a bad day. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-28-11 07:17 PM |
#186 |
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Millions of low income American workers |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:36 AM |
#216 |
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Was this a drive by? I notice you arent responding to those that disagree w you. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-29-11 01:54 PM |
#258 |
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Imagine The Savings If He Raised It To 80 |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jul-28-11 10:49 AM |
#61 |
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The right would really, really like him then! He will go down as the great Compromiser! |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 10:54 AM |
#64 |
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Let's Make It 100 |
ProfessorGAC |
Jul-28-11 10:56 AM |
#66 |
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And now the inevitable shift from denying that it will happen, to defending it. |
woo me with science |
Jul-28-11 11:00 AM |
#68 |
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Yep. I was surprised people weren't denying it...guess this is the next step. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:08 AM |
#70 |
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But..but..he HAS to cut Medicare. The poor guy is powerless. It's not like he has a veto. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-28-11 11:09 AM |
#74 |
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Obama defaults on the working class to protect the elite moneyed class. |
tsuki |
Jul-28-11 11:14 AM |
#78 |
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Responses for review... |
Safetykitten |
Jul-28-11 11:17 AM |
#79 |
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We'll see if the words of that extremist leftist, |
mmonk |
Jul-28-11 11:31 AM |
#86 |
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yeah- thanks Obama |
Marrah_G |
Jul-28-11 11:32 AM |
#87 |
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Fuck. This. Shit. |
piratefish08 |
Jul-28-11 11:33 AM |
#88 |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Jul-29-11 12:51 AM |
#204 |
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No, no, NO!!! Lower it! To ZERO!!! |
KamaAina |
Jul-28-11 11:35 AM |
#90 |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 11:46 AM |
#95 |
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++ |
Maven |
Jul-28-11 02:22 PM |
#139 |
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There we go. I was looking for this reply. |
Gregorian |
Jul-28-11 11:07 PM |
#198 |
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You are exactly correct..............nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:50 AM |
#217 |
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When does "bipartisanship" become collaboration? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-28-11 11:36 AM |
#91 |
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I adamantly oppose this. |
PA Democrat |
Jul-28-11 11:50 AM |
#98 |
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I agree. What makes people think 50+ have access to affordable health care when they lose their jobs |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 11:53 AM |
#107 |
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bad idea... |
jzodda |
Jul-28-11 11:52 AM |
#103 |
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Indefensible. Just hurting people to hurt them. Not because we need to. Makes no sense at all. |
DirkGently |
Jul-28-11 12:05 PM |
#116 |
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Consider the source of the story, Politico. |
MilesColtrane |
Jul-28-11 12:05 PM |
#117 |
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Thanks, I was just about to say that. |
Major Hogwash |
Jul-28-11 12:08 PM |
#119 |
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Fine, what about USA Today? Forbes? If this wasn't true, why doesn't he come out and say so? |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 03:03 PM |
#151 |
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Yeah but Politico published this article too |
Autumn |
Jul-28-11 05:01 PM |
#171 |
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That's the size of it anymore :( |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 07:51 PM |
#188 |
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Also, the White House confirmed this at a press conference. It's not a secret... |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 03:17 PM |
#153 |
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Lol |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 04:15 PM |
#155 |
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question about this |
shanti |
Jul-28-11 01:52 PM |
#132 |
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I have no idea. Great question. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-28-11 03:04 PM |
#152 |
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Without some kind of single payer program it will just increase the cost |
WCGreen |
Jul-28-11 02:10 PM |
#137 |
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That's OK |
nobodyspecial |
Jul-28-11 02:22 PM |
#140 |
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Same here, actually dying and cannot get treatment, I think they are thinning us from the herd |
Dragonfli |
Jul-28-11 10:24 PM |
#194 |
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They should just encourage smoking. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:53 AM |
#218 |
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If he gets his way, will it be added to his Accomplishment List? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-28-11 02:24 PM |
#142 |
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Obama will not be re-elected if he touches medicare. He would lose the senior vote... |
Danger Mouse |
Jul-28-11 03:24 PM |
#154 |
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"He would lose the senior vote" |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:55 AM |
#219 |
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"modest adjustments" |
meow mix |
Jul-28-11 04:17 PM |
#156 |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Jul-28-11 10:03 PM |
#192 |
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This is poor judgment |
oldlib |
Jul-28-11 04:32 PM |
#158 |
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Hope he enjoys his 1 term !!!! |
RagAss |
Jul-28-11 04:39 PM |
#162 |
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He is fine with being a one term President |
Autumn |
Jul-28-11 08:04 PM |
#189 |
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Don't be calling my house looking for donations. |
jillan |
Jul-28-11 04:53 PM |
#169 |
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Poliitico fools the gullible yet once again. |
Ikonoklast |
Jul-28-11 05:06 PM |
#172 |
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See post #153. nt |
Lorien |
Jul-29-11 12:24 AM |
#202 |
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You guys are way off. The White HOuse has confirmed this. Watch the Jay Carney Video |
jtown1123 |
Jul-29-11 08:29 AM |
#246 |
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I'll wait until its official |
MouseFitzgerald |
Jul-28-11 06:00 PM |
#176 |
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If only those Obama supporters had voted for Kucinich in the primaries. . . |
B Calm |
Jul-28-11 06:11 PM |
#177 |
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If only those Obama supporters had voted for Kucinich in the primaries. . . |
B Calm |
Jul-28-11 06:11 PM |
#178 |
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He had already dropped out |
Enthusiast |
Jul-29-11 05:57 AM |
#221 |
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Thank you. Amazing, the uninformed. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-29-11 07:36 AM |
#236 |
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If Kucinich had been running at that time, I would have voted for him. n/t |
RebelOne |
Jul-29-11 11:16 AM |
#257 |
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"Make no mistake: time for old folks to eat their peas |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-28-11 06:19 PM |
#179 |
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I wouldn't do that if I were him! Big, huge, GIGANTIC mistake. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-28-11 10:23 PM |
#193 |
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Obama picked most of the people on the Catfood Commission. Always remember that. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jul-28-11 10:25 PM |
#195 |
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K&R |
erodriguez |
Jul-28-11 10:53 PM |
#196 |
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"Tenative" -- Jeeez, they can talk about all the "tentative" stuff they want. It's just talk. |
Hoyt |
Jul-29-11 12:43 AM |
#203 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-29-11 12:53 AM |
#205 |
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From Politico & a Forbes blog ... |
BlueMTexpat |
Jul-29-11 01:02 AM |
#206 |
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Umm what about the White House confirming this? |
jtown1123 |
Jul-29-11 08:30 AM |
#247 |
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Jobs should be the FIRST PRIORITY |
JDPriestly |
Jul-29-11 01:28 AM |
#207 |
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Jobs means solvency for medicare and SS |
PATRICK |
Jul-29-11 08:17 AM |
#243 |
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Obama the sell out demonstrates he does not understand SSI has NOTHING to do w/ deficit!! |
on point |
Jul-29-11 05:56 AM |
#220 |
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If you sign a bill that does this, MR PRESIDENT, you will NEVER |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-29-11 07:33 AM |
#234 |
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I am so fucking over him. |
muffin1 |
Jul-29-11 07:57 AM |
#241 |
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Yeah...he is willing to screw me...... |
Swede Atlanta |
Jul-29-11 08:20 AM |
#244 |
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Yeah, so. |
jschurchin |
Jul-29-11 08:23 AM |
#245 |
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and of course those with money don't see any problem with this |
fascisthunter |
Jul-29-11 08:39 AM |
#248 |
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it didn't happen |
spanone |
Jul-29-11 08:52 AM |
#253 |
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Anyone dreaming of Medicare for All should move to a civilized country, cuz America ain't it. nt |
valerief |
Jul-29-11 08:56 AM |
#254 |
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