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4. Ahh the old we got ours fuck you ploy
I love a good we got ours fuck you ploy.
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  -Report: Obama Prepared To Raise The Age Of Medicare Eligibility Age To 67 jtown1123  Jul-28-11 08:42 AM   #0 
  - I wonder if Obama knows this would gurantee him a single term presidency.  Lasher   Jul-28-11 08:44 AM   #1 
  - He will lose Florida and Arizona, at a minimum.  closeupready   Jul-28-11 08:51 AM   #13 
  - Would a Repub put it back to 65?  MoonRiver   Jul-28-11 11:19 AM   #81 
  - when will you get tired  SwampG8r   Jul-28-11 11:37 AM   #93 
  - +1 n/t  ejbr   Jul-28-11 11:12 PM   #199 
  - A choice between...  JHB   Jul-29-11 06:29 AM   #223 
  - I like the way you phrase that!  latebloomer   Jul-29-11 07:37 AM   #238 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-11 11:51 AM   #99 
  - +  inna   Jul-28-11 02:33 PM   #143 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-11 02:51 PM   #148 
  - Obama sure won't lower it  n2doc   Jul-28-11 11:58 AM   #113 
  - And what has that got to do with anything? It was that kind of  sabrina 1   Jul-28-11 02:58 PM   #149 
  - Republicans are worse? The last few years gave felt NO different to me  Dutchmaster   Jul-29-11 07:33 AM   #233 
  - He's still left of Satan so  hulka38   Jul-29-11 07:25 AM   #228 
  - They don't have to raise it to 70. They just need to tell  A Simple Game   Jul-29-11 07:30 AM   #230 
  - Ain't that the sad truth! n/t  Frisbee   Jul-29-11 08:51 AM   #252 
  - he would have negotiated them up to 76.  russspeakeasy   Jul-29-11 08:57 AM   #255 
  - The Republicans have  sulphurdunn   Jul-29-11 08:42 AM   #250 
  - PA.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:51 AM   #101 
  - yep, and maybe Ohio.  closeupready   Jul-28-11 12:49 PM   #122 
  - He's working for the other side.  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 04:27 AM   #209 
  - He's not working for the Republicons. He's working for Wall Street  Creideiki   Jul-29-11 06:33 AM   #225 
     - That's the "other side"...............nt  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 07:06 AM   #227 
        - I'm up for a class war.  Creideiki   Jul-29-11 06:54 PM   #261 
  - Is Arizona up for grabs?  Creideiki   Jul-29-11 06:32 AM   #224 
  - i don't know- i think he would like to get it lower - or have a single payer alteernative  certainot   Jul-28-11 08:51 AM   #14 
  - Really? If you want to have it lower, why would you agree to something the complete opposite?  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 08:54 AM   #15 
  - maybe to raise the debt ceiling without getting to the point soon where all  certainot   Jul-28-11 08:58 AM   #17 
     - I'm sorry but once you harm a program, it's very hard to restore it. Look at the MMA.  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 09:11 AM   #24 
  - Completely bizarro.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:52 AM   #104 
  - Cognitive dissonance  Hawkowl   Jul-28-11 11:52 AM   #105 
  - it's called politics, democracy, and who's got the power. if youve been watching politics for the  certainot   Jul-28-11 05:58 PM   #175 
     - "and the idea that a black man could walk into the white billionaires house and kick ass is silly.."  BulletproofLandshark   Jul-28-11 06:29 PM   #180 
        - his position is weakened because the left ignores the right's best weapon, because  certainot   Jul-28-11 11:58 PM   #201 
           - It wasn't us that allowed massive deregulation of the airwaves or allowed monopolies to buy up  TheKentuckian   Jul-29-11 05:18 PM   #260 
  - So you can read minds now?  Creideiki   Jul-29-11 06:34 AM   #226 
  - And that he would deserve it.  damntexdem   Jul-28-11 10:10 AM   #51 
  - I wish there was a scenario for that to happen. I cant come up with one. Maybe you can help? nm  rhett o rick   Jul-28-11 07:06 PM   #183 
  - Maybe I could send a candid reply to one of those fundraising emails.  Lasher   Jul-28-11 08:12 PM   #191 
     - I send them back with comments all the time. Doubt they have effect. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-29-11 01:55 PM   #259 
  - He also plans another payroll  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 04:27 AM   #208 
  - THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEBT!  Fearless   Jul-28-11 08:44 AM   #2 
  - because the greedy corporate jet fume sucking dittohead teabaggers  certainot   Jul-28-11 09:13 AM   #27 
  - You are correct, it is not.  Lasher   Jul-28-11 09:31 AM   #40 
  - Medicare Age  tallsherri   Jul-28-11 11:24 AM   #82 
     - And the millions that cannot afford it will have to hope they make it to 67.  Rex   Jul-28-11 11:40 AM   #94 
     - Whose health reform law? And welcome to DU!  Fearless   Jul-28-11 11:51 AM   #100 
     - That's a big fat maybe...this is absurd. This proposal is immoral and produces no savings...n/t  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:51 AM   #102 
     - ".... purchase health insurance at a reasonable cost "? Bwahahahahahahahahah!  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:53 AM   #106 
     - Oh, yeah.  cordelia   Jul-28-11 02:38 PM   #144 
        - I'm paying a retired-but-group rate of $500+/mo. I asked the Indiv. rate and was told "$900+."  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 04:38 PM   #160 
     - Maybe a giant Monkey  Hawkowl   Jul-28-11 11:54 AM   #108 
        - "planning and execution", is right. It never ceases to amaze me that this simple fact  inna   Jul-28-11 02:44 PM   #146 
        - Mmmm.... Gummy bears... Mmmmmmm  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 04:38 PM   #161 
  - It's so easy to get health insurance on the open market when you're 65 or 66!  bullwinkle428   Jul-28-11 08:45 AM   #3 
  - I know. That's why Medicare was invented in the first place. Insurers wouldn't cover seniors.  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 08:48 AM   #6 
  - +  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 10:48 AM   #60 
  - He'll be long out of office by then.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:54 AM   #109 
  - Those of us who are self-employed know this. The rest of America will learn the hard way  PA Democrat   Jul-28-11 11:57 AM   #111 
     - After 2014, businesses will have no incentive to provide health insurance coverage anymore  riderinthestorm   Jul-28-11 04:43 PM   #164 
     - So true -  LibertyLover   Jul-29-11 08:44 AM   #251 
  - Ahh the old we got ours fuck you ploy  CBGLuthier   Jul-28-11 08:46 AM   #4 
  - For certain he doesn't have to worry about this. Nope. Doesn't affect him or his.  SammyWinstonJack   Jul-28-11 09:02 AM   #19 
  - Oh for pete's sake - just raise the payroll reduction.  DURHAM D   Jul-28-11 08:48 AM   #5 
  - Agreed. Or allow everyone to participate. That would pretty much end private insurance...great!  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 08:49 AM   #8 
  - We would have to keep raising it quite often.  dkf   Jul-28-11 09:15 AM   #28 
  - IT'S THE Obvious answer!  grahamhgreen   Jul-28-11 11:09 AM   #75 
  - Let's face it, we live longer and can work longer.  theoldman   Jul-28-11 08:49 AM   #7 
  - Not necessarily. What about people who get laid off? This doesn't even save money so why support it?  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 08:49 AM   #9 
  - OMFG, what world do you live in?  bread_and_roses   Jul-28-11 09:06 AM   #21 
  - There are a hell of a lot of elders staying in the work force who DON'T have health insurance  raccoon   Jul-28-11 09:58 AM   #46 
  - Exactly so.  bread_and_roses   Jul-28-11 10:09 AM   #50 
  - Amen!  GreenPartyVoter   Jul-28-11 10:52 AM   #62 
  - exactly! thank you  inna   Jul-28-11 02:51 PM   #147 
  - 65 becomes "early" retirement now?  BeyondGeography   Jul-28-11 09:08 AM   #23 
  - At what jobs? n/t  onyourleft   Jul-28-11 10:03 AM   #47 
  - You are how old, and doing what work? Tell me "67" and "construction," and MAYBE I'll give you  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:55 AM   #110 
  - Too bad there aren't any jobs for those who can work longer. eom  City Lights   Jul-28-11 01:38 PM   #127 
  - delusional  dana_b   Jul-28-11 01:45 PM   #129 
  - I guess you'll have buck-up and quit whining.  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 04:37 AM   #211 
  - One of the most uninformed posts I've seen in a while  Cali_Democrat   Jul-28-11 02:04 PM   #136 
  - Use your head. Just because we could work longer doesnt mean there will be jobs for us.  rhett o rick   Jul-28-11 07:07 PM   #184 
  - Nothing personal but I do not like you. nt  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 04:35 AM   #210 
  - Let's face it: you have no fucking clue what you're talking about  _ed_   Jul-29-11 07:29 AM   #229 
  - Are you hiring? Please PM me your address so I can send you my resume.  City Lights   Jul-29-11 08:40 AM   #249 
  - Totally unacceptable.  LiberalEsto   Jul-28-11 08:50 AM   #10 
  - And meanwhile the rich and corps get to enjoy this country for free, while we take up the slack  Sarah Ibarruri   Jul-28-11 08:50 AM   #11 
  - Never.  HughBeaumont   Jul-28-11 09:16 AM   #30 
     - At the bottom of this, is lobbying and the fact that to run for office, one needs HUGE $$$$$$$$$$  Sarah Ibarruri   Jul-28-11 09:19 AM   #31 
        - The idea of campaign reform is as dead when our party  sad sally   Jul-28-11 12:08 PM   #118 
           - Exactly, and that means there are NO elections at all. We may as well be watching  Sarah Ibarruri   Jul-28-11 12:32 PM   #121 
  - If he does, I'm writing someone in next year.  closeupready   Jul-28-11 08:50 AM   #12 
  - Pete DeFazio for president! .........nt  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 04:41 AM   #212 
  - So much for 'Medicare for all'  izquierdista   Jul-28-11 08:58 AM   #16 
  - Not much difference is there? And what little difference there is, is bad for most of us.  SammyWinstonJack   Jul-28-11 09:04 AM   #20 
  - Well at least I will get to see my boomer coworkers enjoy retirement.  newportdadde   Jul-28-11 08:59 AM   #18 
  - Yep. Our fault for when we were born! We had the Beatles, too!  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 04:40 PM   #163 
  - Life expectancy is 15 years longer now than when Medicare was established.  Lil Missy   Jul-28-11 09:07 AM   #22 
  - Where is that stat from? That is way off. Life expectancy argument is bull. Insurers hate seniors  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 09:13 AM   #26 
  - Sorry. Here's the source:  Lil Missy   Jul-28-11 09:22 AM   #32 
     - Medicare wasn't enacted until 1965. Also, people have a rough time getting health care before 65 as  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 09:27 AM   #36 
     - That's referring to Social Security, not Medicare. eom  City Lights   Jul-28-11 09:30 AM   #39 
     - That link is to an article about SS ,not a stat sheet  Jim_Shorts   Jul-28-11 11:35 PM   #200 
  - This is false, 1965 - 70.2, 2010 - 78.2  newportdadde   Jul-28-11 09:23 AM   #33 
  - It is a big fucking deal to people who might die hungry and poor because of this.  jtuck004   Jul-28-11 10:14 AM   #52 
  - Oh FFS. Retirement age would increase as well. They would still have employer insurance.  Lil Missy   Jul-28-11 10:59 AM   #67 
     - You are not accounting for people who get laid off and can never find employment.  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:06 AM   #69 
     - Arrrggghhh!  RobinA   Jul-28-11 11:26 AM   #84 
     - "THEY"? You're partaking of the Fountain of Youth, I presume? ("Employer insurance"?)  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:58 AM   #114 
     - Where are these people employed?  City Lights   Jul-28-11 12:52 PM   #123 
     - They. Don't. Have. Jobs. Do I need to type slower? n/t  jtuck004   Jul-28-11 01:17 PM   #124 
     - evidently because she keeps pushing this b.s.  dana_b   Jul-28-11 01:49 PM   #130 
        - There are those for whom Fox is an easier meal... (not personal, just as a general observation)  jtuck004   Jul-28-11 05:12 PM   #173 
     - Oh FFS, you forgot about the self-employed.  PA Democrat   Jul-28-11 01:50 PM   #131 
     - Yeah, if we had employers  nobodyspecial   Jul-28-11 02:23 PM   #141 
     - Mark my words, employer insurance is going to be an archaic perk before long  riderinthestorm   Jul-28-11 04:51 PM   #168 
     - For a great many of us, it already is.  eShirl   Jul-29-11 06:01 AM   #222 
     - Do people who work at WalMart have employer insurance?  _ed_   Jul-29-11 07:38 AM   #239 
  - SAY WHAT?! Uh, NO. Americans haven't gained 15 yrs since the LBJ Administration, FGS.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 11:57 AM   #112 
  - And apparently we are trying our hardest to reverse that trend  Evoman   Jul-28-11 12:11 PM   #120 
  - Wrong  _ed_   Jul-29-11 07:31 AM   #231 
  - Hillary is lookiing better everyday.  FreeStateDemocrat   Jul-28-11 09:12 AM   #25 
  - Hillary is 63 will be 64 in Oct. and 65 in 2012 according to most she is too feeble to hold a job  Pisces   Jul-28-11 10:28 AM   #55 
     - What about retiring before you're too feeble to enjoy it  grahamhgreen   Jul-28-11 11:11 AM   #76 
     - What do you mean "too feeble to hold a job" at 65?  RebelOne   Jul-28-11 01:34 PM   #126 
     - Where are these "regular jobs" of which you speak?  City Lights   Jul-28-11 02:20 PM   #138 
     - Completely stupid "logic." No-one is claiming automatic feebleness. But one trusts you HAVE heard of  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 04:43 PM   #165 
     - You're a massive fool  _ed_   Jul-29-11 07:32 AM   #232 
        - You fuck off. I was only pointing out you can't argue out of the side of you mouth. If Hillary is  Pisces   Jul-29-11 11:01 AM   #256 
  - The actions of the President these past several weeks have destroyed any trust left between liberals  still_one   Jul-28-11 09:15 AM   #29 
  - How does he not think he won't be reviled after pulling this crap?  SammyWinstonJack   Jul-28-11 09:23 AM   #34 
  - It still doesn't mean progressives won't vote for him in 2012, especially if a tea party element  still_one   Jul-28-11 09:28 AM   #37 
     - If they vote for him,  Big Blue Marble   Jul-28-11 09:52 AM   #44 
        - It can be argued that if they vote for him it isn't because they endorse his inane proposals to cut  still_one   Jul-28-11 10:08 AM   #49 
           - That is "logic" that has boxed us in for the last twenty years.  Big Blue Marble   Jul-28-11 10:53 AM   #63 
  - That was part of the plan.  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 04:50 AM   #213 
  - Obama's consideration of this cut to Medicare  Big Blue Marble   Jul-28-11 09:24 AM   #35 
  - Thank you. Tea baggers are already running ads that they are the defenders of Medicare. We are  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 09:34 AM   #41 
     - I keep hearing this.  OnionPatch   Jul-29-11 08:08 AM   #242 
  - If Obama doesn't want a second term he should step back and allow  INdemo   Jul-28-11 09:28 AM   #38 
  - I, truly, do not understand why so many blindly support this man.  Big Blue Marble   Jul-28-11 09:46 AM   #42 
     - A visual aid:  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 10:55 AM   #65 
        - Thanks N/T  Big Blue Marble   Jul-28-11 01:28 PM   #125 
        - Great stuff...lol!!!  U4ikLefty   Jul-28-11 02:41 PM   #145 
  - Beginning in 2014  loyalsister   Jul-28-11 09:49 AM   #43 
  - The problem is the costs of paying for insurance when you are in you mid-sixties.  Big Blue Marble   Jul-28-11 09:55 AM   #45 
     - WE do  loyalsister   Jul-28-11 10:24 AM   #54 
  - Report: Obama prepared to Raise The Age of Medicare Eligibility to 100  cbdo2007   Jul-28-11 10:05 AM   #48 
  - WOW just wow. No, sorry. Denial isn't a good excuse anymore n/t  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 03:00 PM   #150 
  - 67 to start for current 40 yr old and under is reasonable. We are living longer and working longer.  Pisces   Jul-28-11 10:18 AM   #53 
  - Totally Agree...  RoadRage   Jul-28-11 10:30 AM   #58 
  - Wait til you hit your 60's before you say it's no big deal.  Desertrose   Jul-28-11 11:09 AM   #71 
  - Because nobody wants to employ people in their 50's and 60's, that's why.  Dappleganger   Jul-28-11 11:09 AM   #72 
  - This is ridiculous. False choices. Let's force people to work until they die so they never collect  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:13 AM   #77 
  - Who is 'we'? Life expectancy for African American Men is 70.9  Bluenorthwest   Jul-28-11 11:19 AM   #80 
  - Well we are givng them 20 years to brace themselves. What's wrong with you?  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 11:26 AM   #85 
  - No I can't. It is really depressing...  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:50 AM   #97 
  - With fucks like these the Republicans are redundant.  TheKentuckian   Jul-28-11 05:34 PM   #174 
     - THANK YOU  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 07:49 PM   #187 
  - Exactly!  Piltdown13   Jul-28-11 04:36 PM   #159 
  - The GOP hearts you. Really they do.  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 11:24 AM   #83 
  - Who is talking about dismantling???? I said people are living longer and 20+ yr time to plan is  Pisces   Jul-28-11 04:30 PM   #157 
     - "Democrats" is capitalized the same as "Republicans." J/S.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 04:46 PM   #167 
     - No way in hell. Keep your hands off medicare.  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 04:57 PM   #170 
     - "none at all"?  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:32 AM   #215 
     - People aren't living longer  _ed_   Jul-29-11 07:41 AM   #240 
  - Got Numbers  RobinA   Jul-28-11 11:33 AM   #89 
  - Where are people working longer?  City Lights   Jul-28-11 01:40 PM   #128 
  - May you get your wish, and need it.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 04:45 PM   #166 
  - I agree.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jul-28-11 06:48 PM   #182 
  - "Reasonable" to well-off latte liberals, I'm sure n/t  brentspeak   Jul-28-11 08:09 PM   #190 
     - I'm well-off?  Starbucks Anarchist   Jul-28-11 10:57 PM   #197 
  - When people do not have adequate  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:25 AM   #214 
  - WE ARE NOT LIVING LONGER YOU FUCKING FOOL!  _ed_   Jul-29-11 07:35 AM   #235 
  - Idiot statement, pure idiocy  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-29-11 07:36 AM   #237 
  - Inherently Unfair  ProfessorGAC   Jul-28-11 10:29 AM   #56 
  - As a 34 year old.. I have no problems with this...  RoadRage   Jul-28-11 10:30 AM   #57 
  - Uh what does Medicare have to do with "checks coming in"?  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 10:45 AM   #59 
  - Sorry, wrong place.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jul-28-11 06:33 PM   #181 
  - Why on earth do you assume that? That's just what anti social safety net people want you to think  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:09 AM   #73 
  - I'm opting for the "better safe then sorry" option..  RoadRage   Jul-28-11 11:36 AM   #92 
  - "Plan" to Work Longer?  RobinA   Jul-28-11 11:47 AM   #96 
  - state employment  shanti   Jul-28-11 01:54 PM   #133 
  - Your logic is 100% specious. But you go ahead and save; I'm sure you'll stay very healthy forever.  WinkyDink   Jul-28-11 12:02 PM   #115 
  - Where are these people to which you're referring working?  City Lights   Jul-28-11 01:57 PM   #134 
  - bullshit  dana_b   Jul-28-11 02:01 PM   #135 
  - You idiot. There wont be jobs for anyone over 50. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-28-11 07:09 PM   #185 
  - Sorry, my calling you an idiot was wrong. You are just having a bad day. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-28-11 07:17 PM   #186 
  - Millions of low income American workers  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:36 AM   #216 
  - Was this a drive by? I notice you arent responding to those that disagree w you. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-29-11 01:54 PM   #258 
  - Imagine The Savings If He Raised It To 80  DemocratSinceBirth   Jul-28-11 10:49 AM   #61 
  - The right would really, really like him then! He will go down as the great Compromiser!  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 10:54 AM   #64 
  - Let's Make It 100  ProfessorGAC   Jul-28-11 10:56 AM   #66 
  - And now the inevitable shift from denying that it will happen, to defending it.  woo me with science   Jul-28-11 11:00 AM   #68 
  - Yep. I was surprised people weren't denying it...guess this is the next step.  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:08 AM   #70 
  - But..but..he HAS to cut Medicare. The poor guy is powerless. It's not like he has a veto.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-28-11 11:09 AM   #74 
  - Obama defaults on the working class to protect the elite moneyed class.  tsuki   Jul-28-11 11:14 AM   #78 
  - Responses for review...  Safetykitten   Jul-28-11 11:17 AM   #79 
  - We'll see if the words of that extremist leftist,  mmonk   Jul-28-11 11:31 AM   #86 
  - yeah- thanks Obama  Marrah_G   Jul-28-11 11:32 AM   #87 
  - Fuck. This. Shit.  piratefish08   Jul-28-11 11:33 AM   #88 
  - +  Bluebear   Jul-29-11 12:51 AM   #204 
  - No, no, NO!!! Lower it! To ZERO!!!  KamaAina   Jul-28-11 11:35 AM   #90 
  - +  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 11:46 AM   #95 
  - ++  Maven   Jul-28-11 02:22 PM   #139 
  - There we go. I was looking for this reply.  Gregorian   Jul-28-11 11:07 PM   #198 
  - You are exactly correct..............nt  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:50 AM   #217 
  - When does "bipartisanship" become collaboration?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-28-11 11:36 AM   #91 
  - I adamantly oppose this.  PA Democrat   Jul-28-11 11:50 AM   #98 
  - I agree. What makes people think 50+ have access to affordable health care when they lose their jobs  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 11:53 AM   #107 
  - bad idea...  jzodda   Jul-28-11 11:52 AM   #103 
  - Indefensible. Just hurting people to hurt them. Not because we need to. Makes no sense at all.  DirkGently   Jul-28-11 12:05 PM   #116 
  - Consider the source of the story, Politico.  MilesColtrane   Jul-28-11 12:05 PM   #117 
  - Thanks, I was just about to say that.  Major Hogwash   Jul-28-11 12:08 PM   #119 
  - Fine, what about USA Today? Forbes? If this wasn't true, why doesn't he come out and say so?  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 03:03 PM   #151 
  - Yeah but Politico published this article too  Autumn   Jul-28-11 05:01 PM   #171 
     - That's the size of it anymore :(  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 07:51 PM   #188 
  - Also, the White House confirmed this at a press conference. It's not a secret...  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 03:17 PM   #153 
  - Lol  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 04:15 PM   #155 
  - question about this  shanti   Jul-28-11 01:52 PM   #132 
  - I have no idea. Great question.  jtown1123   Jul-28-11 03:04 PM   #152 
  - Without some kind of single payer program it will just increase the cost  WCGreen   Jul-28-11 02:10 PM   #137 
  - That's OK  nobodyspecial   Jul-28-11 02:22 PM   #140 
  - Same here, actually dying and cannot get treatment, I think they are thinning us from the herd  Dragonfli   Jul-28-11 10:24 PM   #194 
     - They should just encourage smoking.  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:53 AM   #218 
  - If he gets his way, will it be added to his Accomplishment List?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-28-11 02:24 PM   #142 
  - Obama will not be re-elected if he touches medicare. He would lose the senior vote...  Danger Mouse   Jul-28-11 03:24 PM   #154 
  - "He would lose the senior vote"  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:55 AM   #219 
  - "modest adjustments"  meow mix   Jul-28-11 04:17 PM   #156 
  - +  Bluebear   Jul-28-11 10:03 PM   #192 
  - This is poor judgment  oldlib   Jul-28-11 04:32 PM   #158 
  - Hope he enjoys his 1 term !!!!  RagAss   Jul-28-11 04:39 PM   #162 
  - He is fine with being a one term President  Autumn   Jul-28-11 08:04 PM   #189 
  - Don't be calling my house looking for donations.  jillan   Jul-28-11 04:53 PM   #169 
  - Poliitico fools the gullible yet once again.  Ikonoklast   Jul-28-11 05:06 PM   #172 
  - See post #153. nt  Lorien   Jul-29-11 12:24 AM   #202 
  - You guys are way off. The White HOuse has confirmed this. Watch the Jay Carney Video  jtown1123   Jul-29-11 08:29 AM   #246 
  - I'll wait until its official  MouseFitzgerald   Jul-28-11 06:00 PM   #176 
  - If only those Obama supporters had voted for Kucinich in the primaries. . .  B Calm   Jul-28-11 06:11 PM   #177 
  - If only those Obama supporters had voted for Kucinich in the primaries. . .  B Calm   Jul-28-11 06:11 PM   #178 
  - He had already dropped out  Enthusiast   Jul-29-11 05:57 AM   #221 
  - Thank you. Amazing, the uninformed.  WinkyDink   Jul-29-11 07:36 AM   #236 
  - If Kucinich had been running at that time, I would have voted for him. n/t  RebelOne   Jul-29-11 11:16 AM   #257 
  - "Make no mistake: time for old folks to eat their peas  MannyGoldstein   Jul-28-11 06:19 PM   #179 
  - I wouldn't do that if I were him! Big, huge, GIGANTIC mistake.  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-28-11 10:23 PM   #193 
  - Obama picked most of the people on the Catfood Commission. Always remember that. (nt)  w4rma   Jul-28-11 10:25 PM   #195 
  - K&R  erodriguez   Jul-28-11 10:53 PM   #196 
  - "Tenative" -- Jeeez, they can talk about all the "tentative" stuff they want. It's just talk.  Hoyt   Jul-29-11 12:43 AM   #203 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-29-11 12:53 AM   #205 
  - From Politico & a Forbes blog ...  BlueMTexpat   Jul-29-11 01:02 AM   #206 
  - Umm what about the White House confirming this?  jtown1123   Jul-29-11 08:30 AM   #247 
  - Jobs should be the FIRST PRIORITY  JDPriestly   Jul-29-11 01:28 AM   #207 
  - Jobs means solvency for medicare and SS  PATRICK   Jul-29-11 08:17 AM   #243 
  - Obama the sell out demonstrates he does not understand SSI has NOTHING to do w/ deficit!!  on point   Jul-29-11 05:56 AM   #220 
  - If you sign a bill that does this, MR PRESIDENT, you will NEVER  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-29-11 07:33 AM   #234 
  - I am so fucking over him.  muffin1   Jul-29-11 07:57 AM   #241 
  - Yeah...he is willing to screw me......  Swede Atlanta   Jul-29-11 08:20 AM   #244 
  - Yeah, so.  jschurchin   Jul-29-11 08:23 AM   #245 
  - and of course those with money don't see any problem with this  fascisthunter   Jul-29-11 08:39 AM   #248 
  - it didn't happen  spanone   Jul-29-11 08:52 AM   #253 
  - Anyone dreaming of Medicare for All should move to a civilized country, cuz America ain't it. nt  valerief   Jul-29-11 08:56 AM   #254 
 

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