Warren DeMontague
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Wed Jul-27-11 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #52 |
| 56. I guess I just think the framing of the word "entitlements" itself is a Right Wing frame. |
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You know, when I think of someone who considers themselves "entitled" to something, I think of these guys:  |
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better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 10:02 PM |
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.... |
TK421 |
Jul-27-11 10:03 PM |
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That's what I hear from tea baggers. |
FarPoint |
Jul-27-11 10:08 PM |
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you hear them demanding that entitlements not be cut? |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 10:10 PM |
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I feel as angry as you. But angrier still at how STUPID Americans are to be so easily deluded |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 10:09 PM |
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they are propagandized 24/7/365 |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 10:13 PM |
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But to be propagandized one has to first be stupid, no?? I mean, you're not led by propaganda |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 10:51 PM |
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no. just human |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:03 PM |
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How delusional can humans be? I question everything. I don't know how some just automatically |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:17 PM |
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we are very emotional beings |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:19 PM |
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If you're right, all is lost. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:22 PM |
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no, we just need to learn how to leverage it, too |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:24 PM |
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leverage it? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:26 PM |
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use it as effectively as TPTB to get the message out that they are being lied to and ripped off |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:28 PM |
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I disagree. Libs are not generally given to organizing Ministries of Disinformation... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:30 PM |
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true. but that is not what i am saying, i am saying we need to COMMUNICATE an alternative naritive |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:33 PM |
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Give me 1 example. Right now I think Americans are so stupid and ignorant... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:34 PM |
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are you American? |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:39 PM |
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Huh? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:42 PM |
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you just said you think americans are stupid, and i am arguing tht most are not |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:46 PM |
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Maybe not, but then why have they been voting for 31 years against themselves? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:47 PM |
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i already told you |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:50 PM |
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Makes no sense to me. I get the same propaganda, and so do you. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:55 PM |
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thats right, and they got most just wanting them to pass ANYTHING to avoid a 'CRISIS' |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:58 PM |
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But we're getting that propaganda and we're not reacting that way. That's what I'm getting at. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-28-11 07:09 AM |
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Most are reacting out of fear and that's the plan. Threaten SS checks not going out unless a deal |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-28-11 07:36 AM |
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No one is immune to propaganda. Even those who 'question everything'. |
RadiationTherapy |
Jul-28-11 07:21 AM |
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You're right -- we're all susceptible. nt |
gateley |
Jul-28-11 12:15 AM |
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Do you honestly think you've never fallen victim to propaganda? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jul-28-11 12:30 AM |
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Not if the propaganda is clever enough |
nxylas |
Jul-28-11 07:29 AM |
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Anger is rarely productive |
jberryhill |
Jul-27-11 11:11 PM |
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Oh I wouldn't say that. Look at the French Revolution. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-27-11 11:18 PM |
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Lots of passion and executions, leading to a military dictatorship |
jberryhill |
Jul-27-11 11:33 PM |
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And some pretty bloody warefare in Europe for several years. |
Adsos Letter |
Jul-28-11 01:53 AM |
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Yes, and look at countries (like Germany and the Third Reich) that didn't protest Hitler |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-28-11 07:15 AM |
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emotion is very POWERFUL |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:21 PM |
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So are your meds |
jberryhill |
Jul-27-11 11:34 PM |
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same to you |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:35 PM |
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They'll be pissed alright, right after those SS checks aren't deposited. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-28-11 07:30 AM |
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fsanondmsforlife |
wingzeroday |
Jul-27-11 10:10 PM |
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sorry |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 10:11 PM |
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same |
wingzeroday |
Jul-27-11 10:15 PM |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Jul-27-11 10:11 PM |
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I'm guessing this won't end well. |
dgibby |
Jul-27-11 10:16 PM |
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expressing an opinion is a sin? |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 10:17 PM |
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No, but espousing Tea Party talking points is. n/t |
dgibby |
Jul-27-11 10:21 PM |
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they are demanding that our entitlements NOT be cut? Thats news to me, but you know what they say |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 10:23 PM |
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You may think shutting down the govt is A-OK, |
dgibby |
Jul-27-11 10:51 PM |
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i don't think holding us hostage over a fake crisis to cut our entitlements is A-OK |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:05 PM |
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Ah, so we should shoot the hostages |
jberryhill |
Jul-27-11 11:12 PM |
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liberate them by fighting back - if you aren't willing to fight back, you deserve what you get |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:14 PM |
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Yes, |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-27-11 11:34 PM |
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Welcome to DU. |
TroglodyteScholar |
Jul-27-11 10:51 PM |
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#imNotaZombie |
Blue-Jay |
Jul-27-11 10:52 PM |
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So we should disband the army? |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-27-11 10:53 PM |
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we should fight to preserve our entitlements - if we don't we lose |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:07 PM |
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By entitlements you must mean the trillion dollar defense budget, the 60 Billion/year drug war |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-27-11 11:35 PM |
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are you kidding me? I mean the ENTITLEMENTS that we have been paying for our whole working lives |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:41 PM |
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I guess I just think the framing of the word "entitlements" itself is a Right Wing frame. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-27-11 11:48 PM |
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well, no matter what you think, I am arguing that they NOT be CUT. |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:52 PM |
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Fair 'nuff. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-28-11 12:09 AM |
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thank you Warren |
better days ahead |
Jul-28-11 12:13 AM |
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Classic Derp |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-27-11 10:54 PM |
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. |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:06 PM |
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... |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jul-28-11 07:39 AM |
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Uh . . . you're a little behind the curve. Pay attention. nt |
patrice |
Jul-27-11 11:03 PM |
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So, you want to take them to ZERO? |
jberryhill |
Jul-27-11 11:10 PM |
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I want them to FIGHT for our entitlements - not threaten us, to CUT them |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:13 PM |
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Oh, so you are out "fightin' and sacrificin'" eh |
jberryhill |
Jul-27-11 11:37 PM |
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LOL! |
Cali_Democrat |
Jul-27-11 11:12 PM |
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thank you |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:15 PM |
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well, you come in here like a drunk uncle on crack. whaddy ya expect? |
spanone |
Jul-27-11 11:31 PM |
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lol |
better days ahead |
Jul-27-11 11:33 PM |
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Understand your frustration, but the people who suffer will |
gateley |
Jul-28-11 12:19 AM |
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you argue for a death by a thousand cuts - i say we are already nearly bled to death, time to fight |
better days ahead |
Jul-28-11 12:24 AM |
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I am not arguing for death by a thousand cuts. I really wish |
gateley |
Jul-28-11 12:26 AM |
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Well it sounds like you are saying that we have to accept their plan to cut entitlements in order to |
better days ahead |
Jul-28-11 12:33 AM |
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It sounds in your mind that's what I'm saying, apparently, but |
gateley |
Jul-28-11 12:44 AM |
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ok. But thats what many are saying, we need to pass a bill (with cuts) to avoid a crisis |
better days ahead |
Jul-28-11 12:55 AM |
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That's not what I'M saying -- I'm vehemently opposed. Like |
gateley |
Jul-28-11 01:06 AM |
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right, but MANY are, especially the elite, in order to get us to accept more CUTS.. |
better days ahead |
Jul-28-11 01:14 AM |
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Ok, better days, then you will pay my increased interest rates |
DebJ |
Jul-28-11 02:00 AM |
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Folks who yell shut it down |
trumad |
Jul-28-11 07:16 AM |
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And what would happen? |
mmonk |
Jul-28-11 07:18 AM |
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Defaulting on our debt will cause us to pay $100 billion more in increased interest. |
FSogol |
Jul-28-11 07:23 AM |
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Yup, People will be hurt either way |
O_a_DEMorDINO |
Jul-28-11 07:27 AM |
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Locking |
Chemisse |
Jul-28-11 07:47 AM |
#86 |
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