Doctor_J
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Mon Jul-25-11 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 46. Also easily dispatched |
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"I let myself be blackmailed into extending these disastrous tax cuts in December, because the reactionaries in Congress were threatening the jobless benefits of the very people their policies had driven to unemployment. Well, as Mr Bush once tried unsuccessfully to say, "Fool me twice, shame on me". The days of taking Americans economic hostage just to sink my presidency are over. If I leave office in 2013, it will be because I stood up to these hypocrites, not because I gave into them"
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| -Oh WTF now....is Harry Reid SERIOUSLY considering a deal W/ NO NEW REVENUE? |
tpsbmam |
Jul-25-11 12:44 PM |
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Just Reid "keeping the powder dry" |
ixion |
Jul-25-11 12:56 PM |
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No surprise. This could have been seen from a mile away. |
no limit |
Jul-25-11 12:57 PM |
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This is the best deal that the Dems can get now. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-25-11 12:57 PM |
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This three dimensional chess is a shitty game. What was wrong with the old-school kind? |
nomb |
Jul-25-11 12:59 PM |
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Election Results of 2010 put Right Wing Extremists in Control of The House. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:11 PM |
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We did not, we do not and we will not have the votes. |
Dr Fate |
Jul-25-11 01:54 PM |
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Our problem before is we had the votes in the House, but we had a "fake majority" in the Senate |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 02:03 PM |
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Well then the wingers don't have those majorities now, right? |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 02:04 PM |
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Rigid ideologues control the House now. They will not compromise. Any bill has to pass the house. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 05:01 PM |
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And Obama called them out, by name, almost daily. He pointed this out in the same way you just did. |
Dr Fate |
Jul-25-11 02:14 PM |
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He did do a fair amount of calling them out, especially at the town halls. Media did not like when |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 05:08 PM |
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I knew we would have a good excuse for him not calling them out by name. |
Dr Fate |
Jul-25-11 05:57 PM |
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The "standing up" thing was a serious question. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-26-11 03:54 PM |
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Show us the Links where Obama called out, say, Max Baccus, by name. |
Dr Fate |
Jul-25-11 07:18 PM |
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Max Baucus is a Democrat. Obama called out Republicans. And don't put words in my mouth. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-26-11 03:57 PM |
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In that case the party is finished |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 01:00 PM |
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Right now we have to protect SS, medicare and medicaid from cuts |
jtown1123 |
Jul-25-11 01:04 PM |
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I agree that is critical. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-25-11 01:47 PM |
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Pretty scary Reid is the great defender of these programs! He's not the most forceful fellow |
jtown1123 |
Jul-25-11 01:53 PM |
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do you even need to ask? |
librechik |
Jul-25-11 12:59 PM |
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How can you get this teabag house to pass a bill that includes revenue increases? |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:51 PM |
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Revenue increases=luxury loopholes for millionaires and oil execs |
librechik |
Jul-25-11 02:36 PM |
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Can you tell us what the cuts are comprised of? |
JoePhilly |
Jul-25-11 12:59 PM |
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1. Reid's plan does not touch entitlements 2. REALITY: Republican House will never pass Tax Increas |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:01 PM |
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Then we should never pass cuts in help for poor & elderly |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 01:06 PM |
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How do we get past a House controlled by fanatics? They see the same polls we do that people want |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:16 PM |
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By not giving in to them |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 01:30 PM |
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What does "standing up" mean to you? (this is a serious question, I am struggling with this) |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:44 PM |
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This: |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 02:02 PM |
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Wasn't the high ground on the Bush Tax Cuts lost when they were extended? (nt) |
Make7 |
Jul-25-11 02:14 PM |
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We did not, we do not and we will not have the votes to stop the extensions. |
Dr Fate |
Jul-25-11 02:22 PM |
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Also easily dispatched |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 02:25 PM |
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Never putting the big 3 on the table to start with? Insisting that ALL cuts be in war spending? |
Dr Fate |
Jul-25-11 02:06 PM |
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Standing up is not worth a world-wide depression. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-25-11 01:53 PM |
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Neither is giving in to terrorists |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 01:57 PM |
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So we give in to the terrorists, then run in 2012 on a "raise taxes" platform |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 02:06 PM |
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You have a better plan? |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-25-11 05:17 PM |
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Apparently, there are no entitlement cuts so atleast we have something to cheer about |
jtown1123 |
Jul-25-11 01:03 PM |
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Hurray? Obama should never had agreed to the 2010 budget deal. |
LonePirate |
Jul-25-11 01:12 PM |
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I agree with you 100%. This still sucks. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-25-11 01:18 PM |
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It does suck. I gotta tell you I don't know what the endgame is going to be. And it scares the crap |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:26 PM |
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Even if teabaggers all vote no, I think it could still pass if everyone else votes "yes" |
jtown1123 |
Jul-25-11 01:54 PM |
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I think you may be right |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:58 PM |
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The problem with that is taxes would have gone up on everybody, not just the upper class. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:19 PM |
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That would have been OK with me. The ensuing deficit reduction would have weakened the Repubs. |
LonePirate |
Jul-25-11 01:53 PM |
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With all due respect, I beg to differ -- |
Ship of Fools |
Jul-25-11 01:23 PM |
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I think the political pressure of passing Unemployment would have forced GOp to cave |
jtown1123 |
Jul-25-11 01:55 PM |
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Now that I think about it, actually ... |
Ship of Fools |
Jul-25-11 02:03 PM |
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As usual, the people get screwed by the rich and the politicians. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-25-11 01:23 PM |
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but it's not cutting Medicare or Social Security that will be the talking point. |
WI_DEM |
Jul-25-11 01:24 PM |
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Well it doesn't touch SS or Medicare. That's not a "talking point". That's what's in Reid's plan. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-25-11 01:29 PM |
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Let's be honest here |
maxrandb |
Jul-25-11 01:26 PM |
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And then they can re-introduce tax cuts for those below $250,000. |
Make7 |
Jul-25-11 03:06 PM |
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This is the same kind of crap they shoved down our throats in California |
KamaAina |
Jul-25-11 02:02 PM |
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We probably can, but it will require more than petitions and phone calls |
Doctor_J |
Jul-25-11 02:04 PM |
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1) hands off SS. 2) no extension of Bush tax cuts. 3) end the wars. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-25-11 02:04 PM |
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Apparently so. It's Changelicious. |
blkmusclmachine |
Jul-25-11 02:06 PM |
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Reid's proposal will do the least amount of damage out of everything in the realm of passable. |
phleshdef |
Jul-25-11 02:27 PM |
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You are absolutely right on all points. |
Big Blue Marble |
Jul-25-11 05:18 PM |
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Least amount of damage to whom? |
Doctor_J |
Jul-26-11 09:32 AM |
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