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Sun Jul-24-11 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #85 |
| 86. Is being a sociopath a mental illness or not? |
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Because that is the point we are trying to make
Today's GOP = Sociopaths
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| -Conservatism is a mental illness |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 05:50 AM |
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No, it's not |
Uben |
Jul-24-11 06:36 AM |
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Well, I wouldn't necessarily call conservative terrorists "sane" |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 06:49 AM |
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Right-wing pundits say what they want you to hear. |
Uben |
Jul-24-11 09:23 AM |
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Boortz is the worst. Levin is second worst. ;) |
Mimosa |
Jul-27-11 10:50 AM |
#152 |
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I would argue that it fits the definition of dementia |
Motown_Johnny |
Jul-24-11 11:13 AM |
#44 |
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Conservatism, like liberalism |
pipoman |
Jul-24-11 06:53 AM |
#3 |
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Horseshit. |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 11:27 AM |
#46 |
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Bravo! Great post. |
PassingFair |
Jul-24-11 11:49 AM |
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Ah, good ol' Don Rumsfeld. |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 12:18 PM |
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Great post. |
Lucian |
Jul-24-11 02:41 PM |
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FUNDAMENTALISM is the problem. EXTREMISM is the problem. Fundamentalist extremist conser |
uppityperson |
Jul-24-11 04:03 PM |
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No. The very nature of conservatism is the problem. |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 04:27 PM |
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One could say the same thing about liberalism. Extremism, fundamentalism is the problem |
uppityperson |
Jul-24-11 04:39 PM |
#115 |
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huh? . |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 10:49 PM |
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Liberalism by definition cannot be extreme. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:15 AM |
#133 |
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While CLASSIC Mill liberalism |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:20 AM |
#136 |
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They are on the left, but I would not call them liberal. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:40 PM |
#158 |
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I said left, not liberal... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:43 PM |
#160 |
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I agree. |
Zorra |
Jul-27-11 10:58 AM |
#156 |
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Just because you don't like it doesn't make it not true.. |
pipoman |
Jul-24-11 06:39 PM |
#118 |
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Stalin was not a liberal. He was a conservative authoritarian. |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 10:58 PM |
#122 |
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What the fuck are you on about? |
pipoman |
Jul-24-11 11:06 PM |
#123 |
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Sorry but rewriting history does not work for EITHER side |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:23 AM |
#137 |
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I think what it really boils down to is authoritarian vs. non-authoritarian mindset. |
Raksha |
Jul-27-11 03:54 AM |
#149 |
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In the present time |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 10:41 AM |
#151 |
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Honestly, I don't know the truth. I thought I did, |
Zorra |
Jul-25-11 10:40 AM |
#129 |
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I was quite left of center in my late teens and into my 20's |
pipoman |
Jul-26-11 10:10 PM |
#131 |
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Stalinists are not liberal. Liberals are not Stalinists. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:26 AM |
#138 |
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But stalinists ARE left wig |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:38 AM |
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Wrote a paper involving Mill when a sophomore in college |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:38 PM |
#157 |
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I love Mill for many reasons |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:42 PM |
#159 |
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Stalin a Conservative, you are kidding me right? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:18 AM |
#135 |
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No, not kidding. |
Zorra |
Jul-27-11 02:43 AM |
#143 |
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Stalin was not a conservative sorry |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 10:53 AM |
#153 |
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THANK YOU!!! I get so fucking sick of that "metaphysical" moral relativism, |
Raksha |
Jul-27-11 03:33 AM |
#148 |
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Most conservatism seems to be rooted in excess fear or even paranoia. |
Tesha |
Jul-24-11 07:07 AM |
#4 |
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Pure conservatism links fear with reactionary response. |
gordianot |
Jul-24-11 07:27 AM |
#11 |
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I'm tired of crazy ass statements like yours |
cali |
Jul-24-11 07:13 AM |
#5 |
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I'm going to take every opportunity that I can to call wingers every single name in the book |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 07:21 AM |
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And in doing so you are making yourself just as BIGOTED as they are. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 12:42 PM |
#66 |
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Odin2005, can you name one liberal who has committed mass murder |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:38 AM |
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They are THE VERY MODEL of conservatives. |
sofa king |
Jul-24-11 07:56 AM |
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do you realize how much like them you sound? Of course not. Nothing like a huge helping of CogDis. |
cali |
Jul-24-11 07:58 AM |
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You know, Cali |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 08:04 AM |
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and as I said, your claim so perfectly mirrors folks like Daniel Pipes who claim |
cali |
Jul-24-11 08:06 AM |
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That's just projection on Pipes' part |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 08:09 AM |
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You know, MrScorpio |
sudopod |
Jul-25-11 11:01 AM |
#130 |
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That's cute, but if you cannot discern between me and they.... |
sofa king |
Jul-24-11 11:58 AM |
#53 |
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Please name one mass murderer who killed for a liberal cause in the |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:41 AM |
#142 |
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Damn Skippy! |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 08:00 AM |
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And I'm sick and tired of the fucking CRAZY in mainstream conservatism PRACTICING & condoning HATE |
peace4ever |
Jul-24-11 03:07 PM |
#104 |
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I list a number of violent mass murders by conservatives in recent years. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:34 AM |
#139 |
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Oh, yes, a big fat and disgusted unrec. |
cali |
Jul-24-11 07:14 AM |
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I think it's more like a personality disorder than an organic |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 07:18 AM |
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I can dig that approach |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 07:23 AM |
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Not sure |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 07:26 AM |
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Just between you and me, my OP was a bit of emotionally inspired hyperbole |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 07:29 AM |
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Yeah, I sort of figured that |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 07:34 AM |
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Exactly |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 07:46 AM |
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I would say that the McVeighs, etc |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 07:52 AM |
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The McVeighs are the extreme fringe, thank God. |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 07:59 AM |
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Me, too |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 08:10 AM |
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It's funny that they are prone to blaming liberals for the way that the right is screwing them |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 08:18 AM |
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Well, before I lost my job |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 08:28 AM |
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I've come across my share of religious conservatives |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 08:55 AM |
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In my last, thankfully past, job |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 10:59 AM |
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Why do you think conservatives always cut education first? |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 08:45 AM |
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You remember IDIOCRACY, right? |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 11:47 AM |
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Is that a book, too? |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 11:55 AM |
#52 |
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Right! You know exactly what the problem is |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 12:05 PM |
#55 |
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You can watch the whole movie here for free |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 12:13 PM |
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Thank you - I will check it out |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 12:42 PM |
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Idiocracy |
marions ghost |
Jul-24-11 12:14 PM |
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Do you watch the History Channel? |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 12:44 PM |
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Yes I know... |
marions ghost |
Jul-24-11 03:00 PM |
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You seem to view things through a conservative lense and then |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 03:08 AM |
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True, most conservatives are loving, kind people in their personal lives. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:56 AM |
#144 |
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I agree with you |
warrior1 |
Jul-24-11 08:39 AM |
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This is chauvinism, name calling, and mis-attribution of criminal qualities |
HereSince1628 |
Jul-24-11 08:44 AM |
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If you had read my conversation with Xanaduer... |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 08:57 AM |
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Sure, hyperbole |
HereSince1628 |
Jul-24-11 09:41 AM |
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Retroactively, maybe. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-24-11 11:04 AM |
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Thanks for that |
loyalsister |
Jul-24-11 11:18 AM |
#45 |
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I understand what's going on |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 11:40 AM |
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Sociopathy? |
loyalsister |
Jul-24-11 01:01 PM |
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You will have to forgive me. I understood your post to be a reaction |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 03:15 AM |
#147 |
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THANK YOU!!! |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 12:45 PM |
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Right-Wing Authoritarianism damned well should be classified as a mental disorder. n/t |
backscatter712 |
Jul-24-11 08:45 AM |
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Thankfully, all progressives are rational people |
hughee99 |
Jul-24-11 08:57 AM |
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No, not all progressives are "mentally stable people" |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 09:01 AM |
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Me too, but that really has nothing to do with your original argument. |
hughee99 |
Jul-24-11 09:03 AM |
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Well, Dr. Scorpio, that's certainly a well thought out and in-depth study - |
lynne |
Jul-24-11 09:11 AM |
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What do you expect to accomplish by apologizing for conservatives? |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:05 PM |
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"Crazy" comes in all flavors, apparently... |
pipi_k |
Jul-24-11 09:23 AM |
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My dad always said it was a sin to be a republican. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Jul-24-11 09:25 AM |
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It being a sin is probably better than it being a mental illness |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 10:52 AM |
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God, I hate this kind of bullshit. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-24-11 10:58 AM |
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It's an ideology. |
socialshockwave |
Jul-24-11 11:42 AM |
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Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion in this country, because liberals |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 12:13 PM |
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+1 |
Motown_Johnny |
Jul-24-11 12:39 PM |
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Conservatism and right wing hatred do not necessarily go hand in hand. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-24-11 11:53 AM |
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Follow the policies to their logical conclusion and you'll find that mile wide brush |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-24-11 12:14 PM |
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"Their policies have real impact and those impacts inflict real pain on real people". |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 04:14 PM |
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They do go hand in hand |
marions ghost |
Jul-24-11 12:27 PM |
#61 |
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Can you please give examples to support this assertion? |
Motown_Johnny |
Jul-24-11 12:42 PM |
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They don't always, but they do enough to sense a pattern here |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:04 PM |
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aaaa haaaa haaaa. check this |
Gabi Hayes |
Jul-24-11 12:00 PM |
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No, and calling it that is extremely offensive to everyone with a mental illness. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 12:38 PM |
#62 |
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Right- NOT mental illness but personality disorders like sociopathy |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 12:46 PM |
#69 |
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Most Conservatives are NOT sociopaths. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 12:50 PM |
#71 |
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Me, too |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 12:53 PM |
#72 |
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Ah, Ok! |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 02:29 PM |
#84 |
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Anyone here ever read, "The Mask of Sanity" by H. Cleckley? |
XanaDUer |
Jul-24-11 12:48 PM |
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Can you cite a credible psychology source to back that up? |
postatomic |
Jul-24-11 01:18 PM |
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There are times when I get down in the dirt with those right wing motherfuckers |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 01:55 PM |
#75 |
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+100 |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:03 PM |
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And I will get in the dirt with you to fight them |
postatomic |
Jul-24-11 02:34 PM |
#88 |
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Perhaps I was using too technical a description for them |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 02:44 PM |
#98 |
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I totally understand |
postatomic |
Jul-24-11 03:59 PM |
#108 |
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I, for one, am sick of the Conservative Apologists here |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:03 PM |
#77 |
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How am I defending Conservatives? |
postatomic |
Jul-24-11 02:30 PM |
#85 |
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Is being a sociopath a mental illness or not? |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:31 PM |
#86 |
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I repeat: Most Conservatives are NOT sociopaths. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 02:35 PM |
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Most? No, of course not. But plenty of them are |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 02:37 PM |
#91 |
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Respectfully disagree |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:40 PM |
#93 |
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I wasn't refering to Republicans |
postatomic |
Jul-24-11 02:42 PM |
#97 |
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And the GOP you just described is what I, and many others, would call sociopathic |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:44 PM |
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You would do well if you learned more about Sociopaths |
postatomic |
Jul-24-11 03:49 PM |
#107 |
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Nice broad-brushing and stereotyping, there. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 02:34 PM |
#89 |
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And I know an Autistic Guy who can play Moonlight Sonata brilliantly |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:41 PM |
#95 |
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Most conservatives I have run into would be HORRIFIED by any mass violence against liberals. |
Odin2005 |
Jul-24-11 02:53 PM |
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Not most of those that I know |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 03:02 PM |
#102 |
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'Conservatives' may differ from right wingers? |
Mimosa |
Jul-27-11 10:54 AM |
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Yet through their policies, they hurt millions. (NT) |
Tesha |
Jul-24-11 08:32 PM |
#119 |
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I'm on the side that doesn't use terminology associated with mental illness in name calling |
HereSince1628 |
Jul-24-11 02:37 PM |
#92 |
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It's very disturbing, isn't it? nt |
Zorra |
Jul-24-11 04:18 PM |
#113 |
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I'm on the side that isn't actively trying to further stigmatize mental health issues. |
Posteritatis |
Jul-24-11 04:48 PM |
#116 |
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Calling them mentally ill is giving them a pass. |
Union Scribe |
Jul-27-11 10:57 AM |
#155 |
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You are correct. Screw the haters. |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 02:02 PM |
#76 |
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Conservatism kills. |
Gold Metal Flake |
Jul-24-11 02:06 PM |
#81 |
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When liberals are being mowed down in the street by wingers |
MrScorpio |
Jul-24-11 02:08 PM |
#82 |
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Their brains are wired differently or they were born without the compassion/empathy gene. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-24-11 02:12 PM |
#83 |
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Don't confuse being gullible, selfish and uncompassionate with having a mental illness. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-24-11 02:32 PM |
#87 |
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Conservatives are not reactionaries. Unrec. |
reformist2 |
Jul-24-11 02:42 PM |
#96 |
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They permit reactionaries to dictate their policies, reaffirm them, and support |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-24-11 03:10 PM |
#105 |
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What are conservatives trying to conserve? The status quo...? |
Cool Logic |
Jul-24-11 03:03 PM |
#103 |
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Unrec for hyperbole and placing the actions of a few extremists on others. |
uppityperson |
Jul-24-11 03:19 PM |
#106 |
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Yes, but the media is to blame. n/t |
upi402 |
Jul-24-11 04:00 PM |
#109 |
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Perhaps not conservatism, but authoritarianism probably does. |
GliderGuider |
Jul-24-11 04:02 PM |
#110 |
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Have to disagree Mr. S... |
AsahinaKimi |
Jul-24-11 04:58 PM |
#117 |
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You do realize that a lot of democrats are conservatives don't you? |
NaturalHigh |
Jul-24-11 10:58 PM |
#121 |
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Being a Muslim is a mental illness |
Nye Bevan |
Jul-25-11 12:15 AM |
#124 |
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Millions and MILLIONS of people, many who are DUers, deal with mental illness every day. |
Maru Kitteh |
Jul-25-11 01:12 AM |
#125 |
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Hint: when you're one noun away from sounding like Ann Coulter, it's probably time to shut up. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-25-11 01:53 AM |
#126 |
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Excellent point! n/t |
guardian |
Jul-25-11 08:36 AM |
#127 |
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Well said. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-27-11 04:05 AM |
#150 |
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very well said. nt |
Maru Kitteh |
Jul-27-11 02:44 PM |
#161 |
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No, it is one of two capitalist political philosophies... |
blindpig |
Jul-25-11 09:07 AM |
#128 |
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At least, we are reassured after every one of these well organized but horrible mass |
JDPriestly |
Jul-27-11 02:01 AM |
#132 |
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When Savage wrote his book on Liberalism as a mental disorder |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-27-11 02:17 AM |
#134 |
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Their side says liberalism is a mental illness. Don't parrot their stupidity. |
LetTimmySmoke |
Jul-27-11 03:01 AM |
#145 |
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