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Mon Jul-25-11 02:47 AM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 50. Sinning does NOT make you not a christian anymore |
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Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 02:48 AM by Search and Destroy
The ONLY requirement for being a Christian is the belief in jesus as the messiah and the son of God. How you behave is irrelevent to the label itself.
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| -I keep hearing about how anders breivik isn't a "true" Christian |
Search and Destroy |
Jul-24-11 12:24 AM |
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Here it is, in a nutshell: |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-24-11 12:28 AM |
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So there's no such thing as a "True Liberal"? LOL! So many DU'ers fling the words DINO around. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-25-11 09:29 AM |
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No, there isn't. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jul-25-11 06:36 PM |
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+1 |
hifiguy |
Jul-27-11 02:21 PM |
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Don't they always say that? |
mindwalker_i |
Jul-24-11 12:30 AM |
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People say anything to protect the Right.. To think a person |
OHdem10 |
Jul-24-11 12:31 AM |
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Makes sense to me. Christians have a violent history and have destroyed many cultures... |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 12:35 AM |
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oh for fuck's sake. If you said anything similar about Islam here, you'd be jumped on for being a |
cali |
Jul-24-11 03:20 AM |
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I have nothing against anyone's religion.... |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 03:30 AM |
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Oh bullshit, you don't practice any fucking form of religious tolerance. |
cali |
Jul-24-11 03:53 AM |
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And your opinion is because...? |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 04:19 AM |
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Who forced you to go to Catholic church? |
Mimosa |
Jul-24-11 04:49 AM |
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You mean DELUDED People often shape their religions to suit their needs. (nt) |
mr blur |
Jul-24-11 06:37 AM |
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Christianity, Islam, and Judaism were created by man to suit our species' needs |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 01:24 PM |
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So was Wicca. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-24-11 11:47 PM |
#42 |
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And you feel this is something that is a revelation to me? |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-25-11 04:57 AM |
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It very well may be. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-25-11 05:10 AM |
#58 |
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Indeed; believe what yoi want, discuss what you want, |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-25-11 05:38 AM |
#59 |
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Nor am I threatened by your views or illogical remarks. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-25-11 05:41 AM |
#61 |
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There is that little old ad hominem thing again... |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-25-11 06:04 AM |
#62 |
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Your posts are sorely lacking. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-25-11 11:56 AM |
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Excellent. |
Wait Wut |
Jul-27-11 09:07 AM |
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"species"? Absolutely not. Particular human cultures out of thousands. nt |
greyl |
Jul-26-11 02:20 AM |
#102 |
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I distinctly remember rejecting Christian religion at a very early age. |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 01:22 PM |
#34 |
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all good except the cetaceans |
SwampG8r |
Jul-25-11 09:28 AM |
#70 |
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I hope you were kidding about your last sentence |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-26-11 02:47 AM |
#104 |
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yes a common florida waterjoke |
SwampG8r |
Jul-26-11 06:37 PM |
#117 |
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My problem is with all religion... |
backscatter712 |
Jul-24-11 03:58 AM |
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You do realize "Israel" is not a religion, right? |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-24-11 05:15 AM |
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You do realize that not supporting Zionism is not anti-Semitism I hope. |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 01:36 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-24-11 11:46 PM |
#41 |
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Irrelevant nonsense. And doesn't answer the question. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-25-11 11:44 AM |
#80 |
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As a former Wiccan... |
Wait Wut |
Jul-26-11 06:53 PM |
#124 |
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thank you nt |
WolverineDG |
Jul-24-11 09:08 AM |
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Don't be offended if I ask you to name which "cultures" have been destroyed. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-24-11 03:26 AM |
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The Spanish had what is called 'the requirement' |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 03:47 AM |
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double |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 03:47 AM |
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double |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 03:47 AM |
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double |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 03:47 AM |
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The bigger question is this: |
FourScore |
Jul-24-11 12:40 AM |
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They're just using the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. |
sakabatou |
Jul-24-11 12:47 AM |
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+1000 |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-25-11 11:03 AM |
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Well, if to be a "true" Xtian one must follow the rules, he pretty much screwed the pooch |
MADem |
Jul-24-11 12:54 AM |
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You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. James 2:19 |
bluesbassman |
Jul-24-11 12:57 AM |
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was he a true christian? only god can judge |
SwampG8r |
Jul-24-11 01:16 AM |
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I think what people are saying when they say that is that he isn't representative of Christianity an |
cali |
Jul-24-11 03:17 AM |
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I think that's a good interpretation |
Union Scribe |
Jul-24-11 06:32 AM |
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K&R |
AlabamaLibrul |
Jul-24-11 03:25 AM |
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So the gist of your post is an attempt to tie him to "true" Christians? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-24-11 03:35 AM |
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This guy was no Christian |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 04:33 AM |
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No, the gist of my post is that there is no such thing as a "true" christian |
Search and Destroy |
Jul-25-11 02:25 AM |
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Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. |
Kennah |
Jul-24-11 03:49 AM |
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interesting quote: |
Ferret Annica |
Jul-24-11 04:31 AM |
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He certainly wasn't a true Scotsman. |
U4ikLefty |
Jul-24-11 06:08 AM |
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! |
Critters2 |
Jul-26-11 06:43 PM |
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You are Christian if you say you are .... there are NO other requirements |
divvy |
Jul-24-11 06:21 AM |
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I disagree and I'll tell you why... |
noel711 |
Jul-24-11 07:18 AM |
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Sorry, but your argument is limited to Orthodoxy |
divvy |
Jul-25-11 03:48 AM |
#52 |
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Go ahead, speak for pentecostals.. |
noel711 |
Jul-25-11 05:40 AM |
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Lets try the acid test which is more to my point..... |
divvy |
Jul-25-11 10:41 AM |
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duplicate |
divvy |
Jul-25-11 03:48 AM |
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"to proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ in word and deed" -- UGH |
Arugula Latte |
Jul-25-11 07:26 PM |
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Not quite. And CERTAINLY not in Roman Catholic Christianity. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-25-11 06:28 AM |
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If he had self-identified as a Liberal Progressive American Democrat.... |
hlthe2b |
Jul-24-11 08:17 AM |
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Well said. Thank you. nt |
Critters2 |
Jul-26-11 06:44 PM |
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Christians don't kill people...nt |
SidDithers |
Jul-24-11 09:04 AM |
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They have done so throughout history, and still do /nt |
Bragi |
Jul-25-11 06:33 AM |
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Hmm, tell that to the victims of the Inquisition & the Crusades & Salem witchhunt |
Arugula Latte |
Jul-25-11 07:31 PM |
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Well, at least they aren't trying to make an Atheist out of him. |
BiggJawn |
Jul-24-11 01:35 PM |
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The way I see it - he was a Christian. So was MLK |
Taverner |
Jul-24-11 01:37 PM |
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He was a CINO. Kinda missed the parts about "Thou shalt not kill" and |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-24-11 01:51 PM |
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Eh, I would say that tarring with a wide brush is a time-honored tradition of humans.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-24-11 11:59 PM |
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But he totally got "I came not to bring peace but the sword." |
LeftyMom |
Jul-25-11 02:33 AM |
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Sinning does NOT make you not a christian anymore |
Search and Destroy |
Jul-25-11 02:47 AM |
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You can call yourself a turnip.. does not make you a turnip |
Peacetrain |
Jul-24-11 02:02 PM |
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comparing apples and oranges a bit, I think |
upi402 |
Jul-25-11 12:00 AM |
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That would mean that in two thousand years of Christianity there were almost no actual Christians. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-25-11 02:36 AM |
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You finally understand and did not need to ingest that famous haggis |
Peacetrain |
Jul-25-11 05:05 AM |
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Oh for pity's sake. |
LeftyMom |
Jul-25-11 08:05 AM |
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Oh I get it...you get to define what a Christian is |
Peacetrain |
Jul-25-11 08:39 AM |
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your perception of what a Christian is |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-25-11 10:15 AM |
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You know the rest of us read you guys' rule book too, right? |
LeftyMom |
Jul-25-11 11:11 AM |
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he is right its from jesus own lips |
SwampG8r |
Jul-25-11 09:47 AM |
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No, Peace Train is exactly right. |
dawg |
Jul-26-11 06:46 AM |
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Christianity is not a religion |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-26-11 03:08 AM |
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Christians themselves don't even agree on the "two great laws." |
trotsky |
Jul-26-11 07:26 AM |
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Killing 90 people could make you a Christian. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jul-27-11 04:35 PM |
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It is easier to distance oneself from the actions of others |
Cerridwen |
Jul-25-11 12:03 AM |
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I am kind of sick of hearing this defensive measure |
fujiyama |
Jul-25-11 02:37 AM |
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It's based on the unfounded bigotry that religion is "good" |
PurityOfEssence |
Jul-25-11 03:36 AM |
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Breivik HIMSELF says that he's not very religious |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-25-11 03:56 AM |
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Interesting. I hadn't read this. Thanks. nt |
Critters2 |
Jul-26-11 06:45 PM |
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His multiple acts of murder are inconsistent with the version of Christianity that I was taught |
slackmaster |
Jul-25-11 05:05 AM |
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One can be a Christian while breaking its tenets, just as one can be a Democrat who...... |
WinkyDink |
Jul-25-11 06:31 AM |
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Yup, I've started using the phrase "No True Democrat" when this nonsense crops up. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-25-11 09:30 AM |
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+1 nt |
Critters2 |
Jul-26-11 06:46 PM |
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The problem isn't "insufficient religiousity" it's religion itself /nt |
Bragi |
Jul-25-11 06:35 AM |
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I believe the argument is predicated on the perception |
LanternWaste |
Jul-25-11 08:26 AM |
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Was Joe Lieberman a "true" Democrat? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jul-25-11 10:42 AM |
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Apparently so. nt |
Critters2 |
Jul-26-11 06:46 PM |
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He's a feminized mama's boy, by his own admission, is what I've heard. |
Octafish |
Jul-25-11 11:10 AM |
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"No True Scotsman" |
KamaAina |
Jul-25-11 11:51 AM |
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You nailed it. |
AlinPA |
Jul-25-11 12:05 PM |
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Hitler wasn't, either |
KamaAina |
Jul-25-11 11:52 AM |
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Give it up, already! |
timtom |
Jul-25-11 11:56 AM |
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Many folks who say they are 'christians' really are following what paul did |
LynneSin |
Jul-25-11 12:01 PM |
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Agreed |
Taverner |
Jul-25-11 12:02 PM |
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I'm actually an alien who hails from the Pegasi sysytem. It's true because I said so. |
roomfullofmirrors |
Jul-25-11 06:52 PM |
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I get SO tired of hearing that phrase... |
krabigirl |
Jul-25-11 06:53 PM |
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I never met a "True Christian". |
RagAss |
Jul-25-11 07:34 PM |
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No more that Mohammed Atta was representative of "true Muslims". |
11 Bravo |
Jul-25-11 07:35 PM |
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Atta had people with him, directing him and following him - and when he was done he was hero to many |
nomb |
Jul-25-11 07:44 PM |
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i haven't heard anyone say he wasn't a "true" christian |
pitohui |
Jul-25-11 07:37 PM |
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bill o'reilly said today |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-26-11 03:21 AM |
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Are you a Marxist if you believe Karl Marx existed? |
JackRiddler |
Jul-25-11 08:22 PM |
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No, because Marxism isn't based around the belief that Marx is the son of God |
Search and Destroy |
Jul-25-11 09:39 PM |
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Now I understand your username... |
JackRiddler |
Jul-25-11 10:19 PM |
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"Amen" |
Demeter |
Jul-25-11 10:53 PM |
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Pie Jesu Domine, dona eis requiem. |
txlibdem |
Jul-26-11 08:52 AM |
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But surely you don't think a business owner ... |
dawg |
Jul-26-11 06:52 AM |
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I don't think the 9-11 bombers were true Muslims either. |
dawg |
Jul-26-11 06:54 AM |
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Does sinning automatically make one not a christian? |
Search and Destroy |
Jul-26-11 03:45 PM |
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well, even Sam Harris didn't think so |
Duppers |
Jul-26-11 01:27 AM |
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Interesting! nt |
greyl |
Jul-26-11 02:24 AM |
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This is an enjoyable thread .............. |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-26-11 03:26 AM |
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I always disliked those "...wasn't a true XXX because true XXX don't do that sort of stuff" lines. |
octothorpe |
Jul-26-11 04:45 AM |
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As I already posted, Breivik himself says that he's not especially religious |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-26-11 07:10 AM |
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Strange that someone "not especially religious"... |
trotsky |
Jul-26-11 07:30 AM |
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He claims in his own manifesto that he is not religious, and considers |
Critters2 |
Jul-26-11 06:51 PM |
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Well I guess the thing we need to take away here... |
trotsky |
Jul-26-11 07:16 PM |
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Where did I use the word "non-believer"? I said he doesn't claim to be religious. |
Critters2 |
Jul-27-11 02:09 PM |
#128 |
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Don't worry, you're as clear as can be. |
trotsky |
Jul-27-11 02:43 PM |
#130 |
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It isn't a true christian |
TheBigotBasher |
Jul-26-11 07:21 PM |
#126 |
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