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52. Jesse's right. n/t
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  -Former Governor Jesse Ventura: "This is not the country I was born in. We're a fascist nation now." kpete  Jul-23-11 10:35 PM   #0 
  - Governor, you speak for many of us. nt  gateley   Jul-23-11 10:37 PM   #1 
  - With these people running things...  Emelina   Jul-24-11 01:51 PM   #73 
  - This moron doesn't speak for me  pezDispenser   Jul-24-11 02:21 PM   #83 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-24-11 02:56 PM   #95 
     - If you would educate yourself on his lawsuit a bit  pezDispenser   Jul-24-11 04:04 PM   #107 
        - Ventura wants extreme security measures to be deemed "unconstitutional" ...  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 07:46 PM   #128 
     - Let's assume that airport security is needed.  JDPriestly   Jul-24-11 02:59 PM   #97 
     - I tend to agree with him on this particular issue  pezDispenser   Jul-24-11 03:56 PM   #105 
     - I also agree that the US should not police the world.  JDPriestly   Jul-24-11 07:43 PM   #126 
     - Ventura is a self-promoter, plain and simple.  backtomn   Jul-24-11 09:52 PM   #157 
     - "to return to having freedom of travel?"  jberryhill   Jul-24-11 08:17 PM   #138 
     - That's why I didn't include you in the "many". nt  gateley   Jul-24-11 06:09 PM   #120 
     - Thank you  pezDispenser   Jul-24-11 07:04 PM   #121 
        - Taht wood be  BobbyBoring   Jul-24-11 07:54 PM   #129 
           - Tahnks for pointing that out  pezDispenser   Jul-24-11 09:17 PM   #152 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-24-11 07:08 PM   #122 
     - This is the problem.  watajob   Jul-24-11 10:18 PM   #158 
     - I understand what you are saying  pezDispenser   Jul-24-11 10:34 PM   #159 
     - Ventura is no Ron Paul  KamaAina   Jul-25-11 12:18 PM   #171 
  - We've been that kind of nation for some time, Jesse...  MrMickeysMom   Jul-23-11 10:37 PM   #2 
  - Yup. Codified by the Supremes in "Citizens United." n/t  SusanaMontana41   Jul-24-11 12:48 PM   #53 
  - He just now figured that out?  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-23-11 10:37 PM   #3 
  - They are taking down the veneer now. No need for it anymore.  tavalon   Jul-24-11 01:36 AM   #17 
  - I don't think this is anything new with him. The difference is...  Pacifist Patriot   Jul-24-11 09:16 AM   #21 
  - Maybe not just now -- but he's certainly one of the FEW speaking against it -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:26 PM   #85 
  - Like most of us I am sure he's known this for some time. Power doesn't care about hiding  harun   Jul-24-11 02:37 PM   #90 
     - Agree ... but ...  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:42 PM   #92 
        - If the middle class of the Confederacy and the Union unite, it could happen.  harun   Jul-24-11 02:53 PM   #93 
           - Didn't elites convince the poor and middle class in the South to go to  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 03:50 PM   #104 
              - They love fascism, as long as they are the boss.  harun   Jul-24-11 07:58 PM   #130 
  - k*r Jesse is telling it like it is  autorank   Jul-23-11 10:38 PM   #4 
  - Seconded!  Kaleko   Jul-23-11 10:42 PM   #5 
  - Thirded! nt  Plucketeer   Jul-24-11 11:08 AM   #37 
  - +100000  woo me with science   Jul-23-11 10:49 PM   #10 
  - And a virtually unlimited military budget.  geckosfeet   Jul-24-11 12:55 PM   #55 
     - BANG BASTARD MILITARY  HowHasItComeToThis   Jul-24-11 07:17 PM   #123 
        - Not sure what you are saying - my point is that even with all the money dumped  geckosfeet   Jul-24-11 11:19 PM   #162 
  - as I am old...  handmade34   Jul-23-11 10:44 PM   #6 
  - +10  whathehell   Jul-24-11 08:26 AM   #20 
  - The world has never figured out how to deal with the violent few among us ...  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 12:59 PM   #58 
  - I am old too  nineteen50   Jul-24-11 04:27 PM   #110 
  - that is when it became palpable  handmade34   Jul-24-11 08:29 PM   #143 
  - Perhaps you missed a few things....  jberryhill   Jul-24-11 08:26 PM   #142 
     - touch  handmade34   Jul-24-11 08:35 PM   #144 
        - No, but beware of "golden age" nostalgia  jberryhill   Jul-24-11 09:40 PM   #154 
           - That straw  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 09:47 PM   #156 
           - 2 step forwards  handmade34   Jul-24-11 10:36 PM   #160 
  - If the case is tossed, but you can only challenge in a "federal appeals court" how do you get there?  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-23-11 10:46 PM   #7 
  - I guess American citizens have no standing in courts  Angry Dragon   Jul-23-11 10:49 PM   #9 
  - Under this statute, yes you can  jberryhill   Jul-24-11 12:16 AM   #13 
  - Depends on why it was tossed.  JDPriestly   Jul-24-11 03:02 PM   #98 
  - A little slow there Jessie?  lonestarnot   Jul-23-11 10:48 PM   #8 
  - Jesse gets it. nt  woo me with science   Jul-23-11 10:49 PM   #11 
  - Now, if only you and your comrades in Perot's party had seen this ca. 1992,  Wednesdays   Jul-24-11 12:06 AM   #12 
  - How do you mean that -- ???  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 01:03 PM   #61 
  - I don't know how he did as governor(someone want to fill me in on that?)  white_wolf   Jul-24-11 12:20 AM   #14 
  - He was short-sighted and squandered our surplus with tax...  Zookeeper   Jul-24-11 11:00 AM   #33 
     - Squandered? By giving it back to the people?  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 11:09 AM   #38 
        - isn't that what dubya did? Come in with a surplus and then announce "that's YER money"  calimary   Jul-24-11 12:36 PM   #51 
        - NO one is all-wise.  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 12:58 PM   #57 
           - I didn't get any of it either. But he sure did give it out - to those he referred to as  calimary   Jul-24-11 01:13 PM   #65 
        - People with his philosophy usually argue that State budgets....  Zookeeper   Jul-24-11 05:06 PM   #115 
           - "Kind of a meathead,"  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 05:18 PM   #117 
              - I'm not. Don't get me started on Timmy...  Zookeeper   Jul-25-11 02:20 AM   #164 
  - Never did I think I would agree with this man. He might actually fight for the people.  AllyCat   Jul-24-11 12:23 AM   #15 
  - K&R  krabigirl   Jul-24-11 01:02 AM   #16 
  - He is spot-on.  7wo7rees   Jul-24-11 01:44 AM   #18 
  - +++  DemReadingDU   Jul-24-11 07:35 AM   #19 
  - If we lived in a fascist nation, we couldn't challenge the procedures in a court now, could we?  treestar   Jul-24-11 09:18 AM   #22 
  - Citizen's United was a challenge of the procedures, was it not?  CleanGreenFuture   Jul-24-11 10:28 AM   #25 
  - Yes. So? Even if we don't win, at least the opposition was able to  treestar   Jul-24-11 11:04 AM   #34 
     - It was decided by a fascist court. It's the difference between a just  CleanGreenFuture   Jul-24-11 11:45 AM   #40 
     - What fascist court?  treestar   Jul-24-11 01:43 PM   #69 
        - Right .. like when Judges are sending kids to prison for their own profit and profit olf  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:16 PM   #79 
           - Pennsylvania yeah that was just fu****** evil...guess which party the judges and prosecuter are in..  Drew Richards   Jul-24-11 05:13 PM   #116 
           - You may not like it, but dealing drugs is against the law  treestar   Jul-25-11 07:30 AM   #168 
     - So you think that Germany and Italy had no cort system?  zeemike   Jul-24-11 11:58 AM   #42 
     - That's right. All you need to continue the facade is a fascist court, which our  CleanGreenFuture   Jul-24-11 12:01 PM   #43 
     - +1000% -- and long has it reigned unchallenged by our Democratic Party -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:17 PM   #80 
     - So you think just because fascist governments pretend to have a court system  treestar   Jul-24-11 01:45 PM   #71 
     - Well it did not start out that way.....it was corrupted.  zeemike   Jul-24-11 02:59 PM   #96 
     - The Courts and Judges these days will decide based on their own leanings ....  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 07:59 PM   #131 
        - The Gulf oil spill  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 08:10 PM   #133 
        - Thank you -- hadn't heard about that --  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 08:41 PM   #146 
           - You're welcome.  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 08:50 PM   #148 
              - +1 -- Thanks again -- !! :)  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 09:03 PM   #150 
                 - Yeppers, you bet  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 09:23 PM   #153 
        - Of course you can find problems in any system  treestar   Jul-25-11 07:27 AM   #167 
     - The Nazis were masters of extraordinary rendition.  Divernan   Jul-24-11 02:24 PM   #84 
     - Did you ever hear of the Nuremberg Laws? Same as our fascist Gang of 5 ... !!  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:14 PM   #78 
  - When the courts are staffed by fascists, the idea of our ability for it  Ed Suspicious   Jul-24-11 10:40 AM   #26 
  - Calling the judge a fascist is a great way to win a case  jberryhill   Jul-24-11 10:56 AM   #31 
  - We were depending on our elected officials -- Dem Party -- to be vigilant vs fascism....  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:30 PM   #87 
  - I see no reason to assume the courts all entirely corrupt in this nation  treestar   Jul-24-11 11:05 AM   #35 
     - I guess I'm mainly talking about the 3+1 on the supremes. n/t  Ed Suspicious   Jul-24-11 11:06 AM   #36 
     - They don't have to ALL be corrupt -- Once corruption is introduced, however ...  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:36 PM   #89 
  - With the provisions of the Patriot Act and particularly taking away habeas corpus,  Divernan   Jul-24-11 11:52 AM   #41 
  - You've never heard the term "kangaroo courts," then?  Ignis   Jul-24-11 12:07 PM   #46 
  - Fascism doesn't come in full blown  socialist_n_TN   Jul-24-11 01:28 PM   #68 
  - Don't think you're really tuned in to what fascism is .....  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:12 PM   #77 
  - And when the tea baggers say it, we rightly call them out for the foolishness.  rep the dems   Jul-24-11 04:42 PM   #113 
     - When the T-baggers say it ... they have entirely different people in mind ....  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 08:12 PM   #134 
  - Where was he when Shrub created the DHS nightmare?  BumRushDaShow   Jul-24-11 09:32 AM   #23 
  - Maybe you missed it -  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 10:59 AM   #32 
  - Look up the party that he originally affiliated with sometime  BumRushDaShow   Jul-24-11 12:18 PM   #48 
     - Yes, the governor was friends  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 12:30 PM   #49 
        - I thought that many posters on DU had implemented a purity test  BumRushDaShow   Jul-24-11 12:36 PM   #50 
           - Look, I have no issue with people's  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 12:54 PM   #54 
              - Believe me  BumRushDaShow   Jul-24-11 02:03 PM   #75 
                 - I basically agree with everything you said there.  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 02:33 PM   #88 
                    - Well I never considered  BumRushDaShow   Jul-24-11 03:17 PM   #99 
                       - I'm not going to copy your comments about  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 03:49 PM   #103 
  - What Jesse Ventura is saying is no surprise to most of us ---  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 08:13 PM   #136 
  - Unfortunately, TSA is the least of it, Jesse  Remember Me   Jul-24-11 10:26 AM   #24 
  - +1000% ---  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 08:15 PM   #137 
  - I think in a free country, you SHOULD feel comfrotable being searched  pasto76   Jul-24-11 10:43 AM   #27 
  - When your options are - Go through this backscatter scanner or be patted down..  paparush   Jul-24-11 08:43 PM   #147 
  - Gleichschaltung revisited.  neoralme   Jul-24-11 10:44 AM   #28 
  - KR.....Time for you to run again Jesse.  ooglymoogly   Jul-24-11 10:49 AM   #29 
  - Lambasted who?  jberryhill   Jul-24-11 10:54 AM   #30 
  - this is a nonsense...  kenfrequed   Jul-24-11 11:39 AM   #39 
  - Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism  Twostones   Jul-24-11 12:01 PM   #44 
  - Can anybody say "we're there"?  fivepennies   Jul-24-11 01:01 PM   #60 
  - Well, we've definitely got 12 out of 14!  The Big Vetolski   Jul-24-11 05:32 PM   #119 
  - Feel obliged to say the country he was born into was already a police state for minorities  Exultant Democracy   Jul-24-11 12:04 PM   #45 
  - His has not always been the most credible voice, but he is loud...  qb   Jul-24-11 12:09 PM   #47 
  - Jesse's right. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Jul-24-11 12:39 PM   #52 
  - The 4th amendment is supposed to protect against "unreasonable" search  LibDemAlways   Jul-24-11 12:57 PM   #56 
  - It is because the DHS and other Big Brother agencies cannot  Rex   Jul-24-11 01:00 PM   #59 
  - ... and it's all hidden behind faked perpetual wars -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 01:10 PM   #64 
  - Agree with you 1000%. Long before nudie scans I saw an  LibDemAlways   Jul-24-11 01:26 PM   #67 
  - Reams of case law have been written on the Fourth Amendment  treestar   Jul-24-11 01:46 PM   #72 
     - Common sense is to govern our laws --  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 08:19 PM   #140 
        - Our system is functional  treestar   Jul-25-11 07:24 AM   #166 
           - Look at ExxonValdez and BP -- and you suggest there are court challenges?  defendandprotect   Jul-25-11 11:19 AM   #169 
  - I don't understand how we're any worse today. I don't see muslims in camps.  cottonseed   Jul-24-11 01:06 PM   #62 
  - hmmm..... Japanese were put into internment camps -- Germans here were NOT -- !!  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 01:23 PM   #66 
     - Soon after the troop "surge " in Iraq Major US oil companies  INdemo   Jul-24-11 03:48 PM   #102 
     - And weren't those oil field splits/assignments worked out long before by Cheney in WH meetings?  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 04:32 PM   #111 
     - I'm assuming your ok with interning Japs because of your era, but Germans were interned as well  cottonseed   Jul-24-11 11:44 PM   #163 
  - Looks damn well like it. And the DEM's are MIA, as usual.  blkmusclmachine   Jul-24-11 01:08 PM   #63 
  - If voters are still expecting Democratic Party ... .  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 04:35 PM   #112 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Jul-24-11 01:44 PM   #70 
  - When Bush was president Jesse had about as much credibility here as any other washed up pro-wrestler  NNN0LHI   Jul-24-11 01:56 PM   #74 
  - Eyes were opened,  Kaleko   Jul-24-11 03:22 PM   #100 
  - What was the McCarthy Era if not fascism .... !! HUAC was put together to investigate RW ....  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 02:05 PM   #76 
  - and yet right here on DU is a post welcoming TSA assaults, since the Oslo  piratefish08   Jul-24-11 02:18 PM   #81 
  - Agree -- a little bit at a time ... and FEAR, FEAR, FEAR --- doing it the Goebbels' way ... !!  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 08:21 PM   #141 
  - K & R  orbitalman   Jul-24-11 02:20 PM   #82 
  - Exactly. - K&R n/t  DeSwiss   Jul-24-11 02:29 PM   #86 
  - We're in bad shape when the x-wrestler realizes we are in fascism.  pam4water   Jul-24-11 02:37 PM   #91 
  - I'm watching a baby who is just struggling to stand and walk.  JDPriestly   Jul-24-11 02:56 PM   #94 
  - A progressive could win the Presidency in 2012  INdemo   Jul-24-11 03:36 PM   #101 
  - Yes, more need to say it out loud too. n/t  upi402   Jul-24-11 04:01 PM   #106 
  - He may be a little nutty  matt819   Jul-24-11 04:13 PM   #108 
  - Jesse should consider the possibility that he was born in a fascist country.  Capitalocracy   Jul-24-11 04:27 PM   #109 
  - Re: "We're a fascist nation now."  man4allcats   Jul-24-11 05:04 PM   #114 
  - And now they are in the subway... n/t  hootinholler   Jul-24-11 05:27 PM   #118 
  - We need every voice we can get speaking the truth.for us.  canoeist52   Jul-24-11 07:23 PM   #124 
  - kr  defendandprotect   Jul-24-11 07:30 PM   #125 
  - Does the name "Rip Van Winkle" ring a bell, Jesse?  Sparkly   Jul-24-11 07:46 PM   #127 
  - K & R  democrank   Jul-24-11 08:05 PM   #132 
  - Corporate Fascism be thy name.  sarcasmo   Jul-24-11 08:13 PM   #135 
  - Yes, we have all the symptoms.  HCE SuiGeneris   Jul-24-11 08:18 PM   #139 
  - I traveled out of the country last week...  paparush   Jul-24-11 08:38 PM   #145 
  - My man.  Phlem   Jul-24-11 08:56 PM   #149 
  - K&R  Eyerish   Jul-24-11 09:05 PM   #151 
  - TY Jesse  OwnedByFerrets   Jul-24-11 09:45 PM   #155 
  - Jesse's approach to just about everything  Zambero   Jul-24-11 10:47 PM   #161 
     - Bingo! This Minnesotan remembers and agrees. n/t  Zookeeper   Jul-25-11 02:26 AM   #165 
     - Bitch, bitch bitch and bitch some more -  fivepennies   Jul-25-11 12:12 PM   #170 
 

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