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Sun Jul-24-11 10:56 AM
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| 31. Calling the judge a fascist is a great way to win a case |
| -Former Governor Jesse Ventura: "This is not the country I was born in. We're a fascist nation now." |
kpete |
Jul-23-11 10:35 PM |
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Governor, you speak for many of us. nt |
gateley |
Jul-23-11 10:37 PM |
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With these people running things... |
Emelina |
Jul-24-11 01:51 PM |
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This moron doesn't speak for me |
pezDispenser |
Jul-24-11 02:21 PM |
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Jul-24-11 02:56 PM |
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If you would educate yourself on his lawsuit a bit |
pezDispenser |
Jul-24-11 04:04 PM |
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Ventura wants extreme security measures to be deemed "unconstitutional" ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 07:46 PM |
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Let's assume that airport security is needed. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-24-11 02:59 PM |
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I tend to agree with him on this particular issue |
pezDispenser |
Jul-24-11 03:56 PM |
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I also agree that the US should not police the world. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-24-11 07:43 PM |
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Ventura is a self-promoter, plain and simple. |
backtomn |
Jul-24-11 09:52 PM |
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"to return to having freedom of travel?" |
jberryhill |
Jul-24-11 08:17 PM |
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That's why I didn't include you in the "many". nt |
gateley |
Jul-24-11 06:09 PM |
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Thank you |
pezDispenser |
Jul-24-11 07:04 PM |
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Taht wood be |
BobbyBoring |
Jul-24-11 07:54 PM |
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Tahnks for pointing that out |
pezDispenser |
Jul-24-11 09:17 PM |
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Jul-24-11 07:08 PM |
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This is the problem. |
watajob |
Jul-24-11 10:18 PM |
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I understand what you are saying |
pezDispenser |
Jul-24-11 10:34 PM |
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Ventura is no Ron Paul |
KamaAina |
Jul-25-11 12:18 PM |
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We've been that kind of nation for some time, Jesse... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jul-23-11 10:37 PM |
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Yup. Codified by the Supremes in "Citizens United." n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Jul-24-11 12:48 PM |
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He just now figured that out? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-23-11 10:37 PM |
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They are taking down the veneer now. No need for it anymore. |
tavalon |
Jul-24-11 01:36 AM |
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I don't think this is anything new with him. The difference is... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Jul-24-11 09:16 AM |
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Maybe not just now -- but he's certainly one of the FEW speaking against it -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:26 PM |
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Like most of us I am sure he's known this for some time. Power doesn't care about hiding |
harun |
Jul-24-11 02:37 PM |
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Agree ... but ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:42 PM |
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If the middle class of the Confederacy and the Union unite, it could happen. |
harun |
Jul-24-11 02:53 PM |
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Didn't elites convince the poor and middle class in the South to go to |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 03:50 PM |
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They love fascism, as long as they are the boss. |
harun |
Jul-24-11 07:58 PM |
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k*r Jesse is telling it like it is |
autorank |
Jul-23-11 10:38 PM |
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Seconded! |
Kaleko |
Jul-23-11 10:42 PM |
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Thirded! nt |
Plucketeer |
Jul-24-11 11:08 AM |
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+100000 |
woo me with science |
Jul-23-11 10:49 PM |
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And a virtually unlimited military budget. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-24-11 12:55 PM |
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BANG BASTARD MILITARY |
HowHasItComeToThis |
Jul-24-11 07:17 PM |
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Not sure what you are saying - my point is that even with all the money dumped |
geckosfeet |
Jul-24-11 11:19 PM |
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as I am old... |
handmade34 |
Jul-23-11 10:44 PM |
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+10 |
whathehell |
Jul-24-11 08:26 AM |
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The world has never figured out how to deal with the violent few among us ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 12:59 PM |
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I am old too |
nineteen50 |
Jul-24-11 04:27 PM |
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that is when it became palpable |
handmade34 |
Jul-24-11 08:29 PM |
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Perhaps you missed a few things.... |
jberryhill |
Jul-24-11 08:26 PM |
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touché |
handmade34 |
Jul-24-11 08:35 PM |
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No, but beware of "golden age" nostalgia |
jberryhill |
Jul-24-11 09:40 PM |
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That straw |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 09:47 PM |
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2 step forwards |
handmade34 |
Jul-24-11 10:36 PM |
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If the case is tossed, but you can only challenge in a "federal appeals court" how do you get there? |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jul-23-11 10:46 PM |
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I guess American citizens have no standing in courts |
Angry Dragon |
Jul-23-11 10:49 PM |
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Under this statute, yes you can |
jberryhill |
Jul-24-11 12:16 AM |
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Depends on why it was tossed. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-24-11 03:02 PM |
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A little slow there Jessie? |
lonestarnot |
Jul-23-11 10:48 PM |
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Jesse gets it. nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-23-11 10:49 PM |
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Now, if only you and your comrades in Perot's party had seen this ca. 1992, |
Wednesdays |
Jul-24-11 12:06 AM |
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How do you mean that -- ??? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 01:03 PM |
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I don't know how he did as governor(someone want to fill me in on that?) |
white_wolf |
Jul-24-11 12:20 AM |
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He was short-sighted and squandered our surplus with tax... |
Zookeeper |
Jul-24-11 11:00 AM |
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Squandered? By giving it back to the people? |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 11:09 AM |
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isn't that what dubya did? Come in with a surplus and then announce "that's YER money" |
calimary |
Jul-24-11 12:36 PM |
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NO one is all-wise. |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 12:58 PM |
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I didn't get any of it either. But he sure did give it out - to those he referred to as |
calimary |
Jul-24-11 01:13 PM |
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People with his philosophy usually argue that State budgets.... |
Zookeeper |
Jul-24-11 05:06 PM |
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"Kind of a meathead," |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 05:18 PM |
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I'm not. Don't get me started on Timmy... |
Zookeeper |
Jul-25-11 02:20 AM |
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Never did I think I would agree with this man. He might actually fight for the people. |
AllyCat |
Jul-24-11 12:23 AM |
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K&R |
krabigirl |
Jul-24-11 01:02 AM |
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He is spot-on. |
7wo7rees |
Jul-24-11 01:44 AM |
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+++ |
DemReadingDU |
Jul-24-11 07:35 AM |
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If we lived in a fascist nation, we couldn't challenge the procedures in a court now, could we? |
treestar |
Jul-24-11 09:18 AM |
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Citizen's United was a challenge of the procedures, was it not? |
CleanGreenFuture |
Jul-24-11 10:28 AM |
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Yes. So? Even if we don't win, at least the opposition was able to |
treestar |
Jul-24-11 11:04 AM |
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It was decided by a fascist court. It's the difference between a just |
CleanGreenFuture |
Jul-24-11 11:45 AM |
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What fascist court? |
treestar |
Jul-24-11 01:43 PM |
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Right .. like when Judges are sending kids to prison for their own profit and profit olf |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:16 PM |
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Pennsylvania yeah that was just fu****** evil...guess which party the judges and prosecuter are in.. |
Drew Richards |
Jul-24-11 05:13 PM |
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You may not like it, but dealing drugs is against the law |
treestar |
Jul-25-11 07:30 AM |
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So you think that Germany and Italy had no cort system? |
zeemike |
Jul-24-11 11:58 AM |
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That's right. All you need to continue the facade is a fascist court, which our |
CleanGreenFuture |
Jul-24-11 12:01 PM |
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+1000% -- and long has it reigned unchallenged by our Democratic Party -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:17 PM |
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So you think just because fascist governments pretend to have a court system |
treestar |
Jul-24-11 01:45 PM |
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Well it did not start out that way.....it was corrupted. |
zeemike |
Jul-24-11 02:59 PM |
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The Courts and Judges these days will decide based on their own leanings .... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 07:59 PM |
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The Gulf oil spill |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 08:10 PM |
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Thank you -- hadn't heard about that -- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 08:41 PM |
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You're welcome. |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 08:50 PM |
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+1 -- Thanks again -- !! :) |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 09:03 PM |
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Yeppers, you bet |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 09:23 PM |
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Of course you can find problems in any system |
treestar |
Jul-25-11 07:27 AM |
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The Nazis were masters of extraordinary rendition. |
Divernan |
Jul-24-11 02:24 PM |
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Did you ever hear of the Nuremberg Laws? Same as our fascist Gang of 5 ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:14 PM |
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When the courts are staffed by fascists, the idea of our ability for it |
Ed Suspicious |
Jul-24-11 10:40 AM |
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Calling the judge a fascist is a great way to win a case |
jberryhill |
Jul-24-11 10:56 AM |
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We were depending on our elected officials -- Dem Party -- to be vigilant vs fascism.... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:30 PM |
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I see no reason to assume the courts all entirely corrupt in this nation |
treestar |
Jul-24-11 11:05 AM |
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I guess I'm mainly talking about the 3+1 on the supremes. n/t |
Ed Suspicious |
Jul-24-11 11:06 AM |
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They don't have to ALL be corrupt -- Once corruption is introduced, however ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:36 PM |
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With the provisions of the Patriot Act and particularly taking away habeas corpus, |
Divernan |
Jul-24-11 11:52 AM |
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You've never heard the term "kangaroo courts," then? |
Ignis |
Jul-24-11 12:07 PM |
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Fascism doesn't come in full blown |
socialist_n_TN |
Jul-24-11 01:28 PM |
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Don't think you're really tuned in to what fascism is ..... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:12 PM |
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And when the tea baggers say it, we rightly call them out for the foolishness. |
rep the dems |
Jul-24-11 04:42 PM |
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When the T-baggers say it ... they have entirely different people in mind .... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 08:12 PM |
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Where was he when Shrub created the DHS nightmare? |
BumRushDaShow |
Jul-24-11 09:32 AM |
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Maybe you missed it - |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 10:59 AM |
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Look up the party that he originally affiliated with sometime |
BumRushDaShow |
Jul-24-11 12:18 PM |
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Yes, the governor was friends |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 12:30 PM |
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I thought that many posters on DU had implemented a purity test |
BumRushDaShow |
Jul-24-11 12:36 PM |
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Look, I have no issue with people's |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 12:54 PM |
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Believe me |
BumRushDaShow |
Jul-24-11 02:03 PM |
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I basically agree with everything you said there. |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 02:33 PM |
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Well I never considered |
BumRushDaShow |
Jul-24-11 03:17 PM |
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I'm not going to copy your comments about |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 03:49 PM |
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What Jesse Ventura is saying is no surprise to most of us --- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 08:13 PM |
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Unfortunately, TSA is the least of it, Jesse |
Remember Me |
Jul-24-11 10:26 AM |
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+1000% --- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 08:15 PM |
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I think in a free country, you SHOULD feel comfrotable being searched |
pasto76 |
Jul-24-11 10:43 AM |
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When your options are - Go through this backscatter scanner or be patted down.. |
paparush |
Jul-24-11 08:43 PM |
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Gleichschaltung revisited. |
neoralme |
Jul-24-11 10:44 AM |
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KR.....Time for you to run again Jesse. |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-24-11 10:49 AM |
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Lambasted who? |
jberryhill |
Jul-24-11 10:54 AM |
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this is a nonsense... |
kenfrequed |
Jul-24-11 11:39 AM |
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Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism |
Twostones |
Jul-24-11 12:01 PM |
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Can anybody say "we're there"? |
fivepennies |
Jul-24-11 01:01 PM |
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Well, we've definitely got 12 out of 14! |
The Big Vetolski |
Jul-24-11 05:32 PM |
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Feel obliged to say the country he was born into was already a police state for minorities |
Exultant Democracy |
Jul-24-11 12:04 PM |
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His has not always been the most credible voice, but he is loud... |
qb |
Jul-24-11 12:09 PM |
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Jesse's right. n/t |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-24-11 12:39 PM |
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The 4th amendment is supposed to protect against "unreasonable" search |
LibDemAlways |
Jul-24-11 12:57 PM |
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It is because the DHS and other Big Brother agencies cannot |
Rex |
Jul-24-11 01:00 PM |
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... and it's all hidden behind faked perpetual wars -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 01:10 PM |
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Agree with you 1000%. Long before nudie scans I saw an |
LibDemAlways |
Jul-24-11 01:26 PM |
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Reams of case law have been written on the Fourth Amendment |
treestar |
Jul-24-11 01:46 PM |
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Common sense is to govern our laws -- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 08:19 PM |
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Our system is functional |
treestar |
Jul-25-11 07:24 AM |
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Look at ExxonValdez and BP -- and you suggest there are court challenges? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-25-11 11:19 AM |
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I don't understand how we're any worse today. I don't see muslims in camps. |
cottonseed |
Jul-24-11 01:06 PM |
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hmmm..... Japanese were put into internment camps -- Germans here were NOT -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 01:23 PM |
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Soon after the troop "surge " in Iraq Major US oil companies |
INdemo |
Jul-24-11 03:48 PM |
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And weren't those oil field splits/assignments worked out long before by Cheney in WH meetings? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 04:32 PM |
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I'm assuming your ok with interning Japs because of your era, but Germans were interned as well |
cottonseed |
Jul-24-11 11:44 PM |
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Looks damn well like it. And the DEM's are MIA, as usual. |
blkmusclmachine |
Jul-24-11 01:08 PM |
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If voters are still expecting Democratic Party ... . |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 04:35 PM |
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Recommended. |
H2O Man |
Jul-24-11 01:44 PM |
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When Bush was president Jesse had about as much credibility here as any other washed up pro-wrestler |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-24-11 01:56 PM |
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Eyes were opened, |
Kaleko |
Jul-24-11 03:22 PM |
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What was the McCarthy Era if not fascism .... !! HUAC was put together to investigate RW .... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 02:05 PM |
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and yet right here on DU is a post welcoming TSA assaults, since the Oslo |
piratefish08 |
Jul-24-11 02:18 PM |
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Agree -- a little bit at a time ... and FEAR, FEAR, FEAR --- doing it the Goebbels' way ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 08:21 PM |
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K & R |
orbitalman |
Jul-24-11 02:20 PM |
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Exactly. - K&R n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jul-24-11 02:29 PM |
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We're in bad shape when the x-wrestler realizes we are in fascism. |
pam4water |
Jul-24-11 02:37 PM |
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I'm watching a baby who is just struggling to stand and walk. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-24-11 02:56 PM |
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A progressive could win the Presidency in 2012 |
INdemo |
Jul-24-11 03:36 PM |
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Yes, more need to say it out loud too. n/t |
upi402 |
Jul-24-11 04:01 PM |
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He may be a little nutty |
matt819 |
Jul-24-11 04:13 PM |
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Jesse should consider the possibility that he was born in a fascist country. |
Capitalocracy |
Jul-24-11 04:27 PM |
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Re: "We're a fascist nation now." |
man4allcats |
Jul-24-11 05:04 PM |
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And now they are in the subway... n/t |
hootinholler |
Jul-24-11 05:27 PM |
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We need every voice we can get speaking the truth.for us. |
canoeist52 |
Jul-24-11 07:23 PM |
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kr |
defendandprotect |
Jul-24-11 07:30 PM |
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Does the name "Rip Van Winkle" ring a bell, Jesse? |
Sparkly |
Jul-24-11 07:46 PM |
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K & R |
democrank |
Jul-24-11 08:05 PM |
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Corporate Fascism be thy name. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-24-11 08:13 PM |
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Yes, we have all the symptoms. |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Jul-24-11 08:18 PM |
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I traveled out of the country last week... |
paparush |
Jul-24-11 08:38 PM |
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My man. |
Phlem |
Jul-24-11 08:56 PM |
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K&R |
Eyerish |
Jul-24-11 09:05 PM |
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TY Jesse |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-24-11 09:45 PM |
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Jesse's approach to just about everything |
Zambero |
Jul-24-11 10:47 PM |
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Bingo! This Minnesotan remembers and agrees. n/t |
Zookeeper |
Jul-25-11 02:26 AM |
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Bitch, bitch bitch and bitch some more - |
fivepennies |
Jul-25-11 12:12 PM |
#170 |