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We don't want tax flight, we want those who can pay to stay and pay, not move to Dubai like Halliburton.
Just bring the rates back to where under Clinton and close some loopholes. You'd be amazed how good a shape
we'd be in within 3 years. A 40% (from 35%) top rate isn't enough incentive for a gazillionaire to move his
whole wealth, including companies that employ Americans, offshore. A 70% rate is.
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| -So, Obama put $650 Billion of cuts in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicade on the table |
ThomWV |
Jul-22-11 06:33 PM |
#0 |
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It's called "bluffing". |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:33 PM |
#1 |
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and if that bluff was called???? |
G_j |
Jul-22-11 06:35 PM |
#6 |
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I'm sorry? You mean if the Republicans actually agreed to trillions in tax increases? |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:37 PM |
#18 |
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no, 1 trillion in taxes, 3 trillions in CUTS. that was the deal on the table. |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:40 PM |
#32 |
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And of course the Republicans didn't take the tax increases. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:42 PM |
#36 |
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thank goodness. |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:46 PM |
#50 |
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No chance GOP would have accepted the deal. GOP pattern is to refuse everything, everytime |
Sheepshank |
Jul-23-11 10:50 AM |
#155 |
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So you are saying that republicans save SS? Wow. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-23-11 11:41 AM |
#170 |
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That will be their new campaign slogan, 'Obama wants to kill Grandma' and it will stick. |
bahrbearian |
Jul-23-11 03:41 PM |
#209 |
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Only because this admin is so inept. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-23-11 04:05 PM |
#216 |
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Trillions |
sendero |
Jul-23-11 09:53 PM |
#233 |
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veto |
Motown_Johnny |
Jul-23-11 10:17 AM |
#143 |
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He kept the stakes high enough that he was reasonably sure they |
jwirr |
Jul-23-11 01:12 PM |
#185 |
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There was practically zero chance they'd accept the deal, given that 95% of the Republicans |
TrollBuster9090 |
Jul-23-11 05:26 PM |
#222 |
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You're not supposed to bluff with other people's money. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#7 |
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with our lives, not just our money. |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#15 |
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Stop reading DU if you can't handle politics. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:37 PM |
#19 |
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Skinner, is that you? |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:38 PM |
#20 |
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our health care and pensions? Maybe you dont need yours, but the majority of us |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:40 PM |
#29 |
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Then you should be thankful you have Obama for President instead of reflexively trashing him. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:43 PM |
#42 |
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reflectively? bullshit. |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:45 PM |
#45 |
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Oh, there's something reflexive here |
Cherchez la Femme |
Jul-22-11 07:47 PM |
#101 |
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I think it involves products from a certain adult toy store |
Lorien |
Jul-23-11 01:48 AM |
#132 |
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I ahve the right to be angry with Obama. I worked to get him elected. I worked hard. |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:45 PM |
#48 |
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Then please note that the REPUBLICANS are the sole reason this is happening. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 06:49 PM |
#57 |
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Then the appropriate response does NOT involve proposing a deal with social security, correct? |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:56 PM |
#68 |
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Remember 1. Republicans dont want to cut it, they want to destroy it. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:29 PM |
#91 |
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Obama never had to give them a damn thing |
Lorien |
Jul-23-11 01:52 AM |
#133 |
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spot on Lorien. He should do as Clinton said if the GOP wants to try and tie our paid for programs |
Divine Discontent |
Jul-23-11 03:18 PM |
#205 |
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EXACTLY. Thank-you. |
robinlynne |
Jul-23-11 09:24 PM |
#232 |
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Social Security should never be on the table, period |
jumptheshadow |
Jul-23-11 10:33 AM |
#146 |
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like there was no deal with the tax cuts/ and no deal with the public option? |
robinlynne |
Jul-23-11 08:55 PM |
#231 |
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Republicans made Obama offer cuts in Medicare and Social Security ... ? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:31 AM |
#125 |
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The Devil made him do it. |
pscot |
Jul-23-11 01:51 PM |
#192 |
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While I agree that the debt ceiling debate has never been as bad but didn't the President vote |
kelly1mm |
Jul-23-11 02:15 PM |
#195 |
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thankful? money market account were pilfered! Obama's protecting the Banksters! |
StarsInHerHair |
Jul-22-11 07:24 PM |
#90 |
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1000% --- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:32 AM |
#126 |
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If you think Obama is protecting the Banksters, go to OpenSecrets(dot)org and see what the Banksters |
TrollBuster9090 |
Jul-23-11 06:02 PM |
#223 |
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Only elites have reason to be "thankful" -- or "grateful" to Obama ... as Rahm made clear!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:26 AM |
#123 |
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No one is "reflexively trashing" Obama; it's called criticism. Try handling it |
Lorien |
Jul-23-11 01:47 AM |
#131 |
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Something missing |
lark |
Jul-23-11 10:16 AM |
#142 |
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Problem is Obama is a Republican |
INdemo |
Jul-23-11 06:40 PM |
#229 |
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"Politics" effects people's lives every minute of their lives ... many Americans suffering ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:25 AM |
#122 |
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THIS IS BEYOND POLITICS |
toppertwot |
Jul-23-11 10:51 AM |
#156 |
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So, Mr. Yellow Dog, you'd like a repeat of Carter/Reagan 1980 would you? |
TrollBuster9090 |
Jul-23-11 06:08 PM |
#224 |
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Stop posting on DU if you can't face reality. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-23-11 11:44 AM |
#171 |
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I know. My mom plays medication roulette every month. |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:40 PM |
#30 |
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A lot of people do |
Irishonly |
Jul-23-11 03:08 PM |
#203 |
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Who is Obama "bluffing" ---? Looks more like it's the American public ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:27 AM |
#124 |
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Even if this is just a bluff... |
Frisbee |
Jul-23-11 11:23 AM |
#164 |
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Its only a bluff if the other side doesnt call the bet by accepting |
DJ13 |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#8 |
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You think the republicans would accept trillions in tax increases? |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:39 PM |
# |
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From what I understand, Obama was wanting to close loopholes in this deal |
DJ13 |
Jul-22-11 06:45 PM |
#46 |
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The plutocrats are trapped between a rock and a hard place on this one. |
TrollBuster9090 |
Jul-23-11 06:17 PM |
#225 |
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There is zero evidence trillions in tax increases were on the table. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:48 PM |
#54 |
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If I understood correctly |
Horse with no Name |
Jul-23-11 02:17 PM |
#196 |
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So, you missed what BOTH Boehner and Obama said yesterday about the talks breaking down because |
TrollBuster9090 |
Jul-23-11 06:20 PM |
#227 |
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If Obama agrees to do it at "some point |
libmom74 |
Jul-23-11 11:57 AM |
#175 |
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So he was not being honest with the people in this press conference, just bluffing. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#12 |
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Those of us who will or may need those programs are not amused.. |
tokenlib |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#13 |
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Political fights aren't for your "amusement". And if you have a problem, blame the Republicans. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:38 PM |
#21 |
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+1 |
October |
Jul-22-11 06:42 PM |
#38 |
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Blame the republicans for Obama playing by their rules and with their language?? |
tokenlib |
Jul-22-11 06:46 PM |
#49 |
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And on their turf. Negotiating from the right of center |
chill_wind |
Jul-22-11 06:52 PM |
#61 |
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BLAME the Republicans because this ENTIRE MESS is because of them. especially the teabaggers in the |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 06:52 PM |
# |
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lots of blame to go around |
lark |
Jul-23-11 10:23 AM |
#144 |
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+100000000 |
bluethruandthru |
Jul-22-11 09:46 PM |
#113 |
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and their language... yea. |
Muskypundit |
Jul-23-11 04:54 PM |
#220 |
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I'm sure the word "serious" was tossed around quite a bit |
eilen |
Jul-22-11 07:20 PM |
#87 |
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The fact that Obama and Boehner had agreed to 0.8 trillion in revenue enhancements, and then Obama |
TrollBuster9090 |
Jul-23-11 06:26 PM |
#228 |
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So you say that Pres Obama putting SS and Medicare on the table is a bluff? nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-22-11 06:37 PM |
#16 |
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Can't handle being wrong, can you? |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:39 PM |
#24 |
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You mean, the Washington Post isn't making this up? |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:42 PM |
#37 |
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What the hell does that have to do with my question? What was I wrong about? nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-22-11 07:14 PM |
#83 |
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It has nothing to do w/ your question.It was just next on her list 4 today's snarky replies. |
Divernan |
Jul-23-11 10:48 AM |
#153 |
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that's the best you can say? that he offered it up, mentioned it today... |
CreekDog |
Jul-22-11 06:56 PM |
#70 |
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When the BEST defense of Obama is that "he is lying", |
bvar22 |
Jul-23-11 09:20 AM |
#137 |
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no shit! |
CreekDog |
Jul-23-11 11:51 AM |
#174 |
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So... has he pulled it back |
eilen |
Jul-22-11 07:17 PM |
#85 |
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I am guessing you never have played poker, right? If he is bluffing, that means he |
rhett o rick |
Jul-22-11 07:17 PM |
#86 |
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This isn't a game. n/t |
Blue_In_AK |
Jul-22-11 07:24 PM |
#89 |
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Of Course |
RobinA |
Jul-22-11 08:17 PM |
#108 |
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That still makes as little sense as it did when O'Donnell first tossed it out there. |
Marr |
Jul-22-11 07:42 PM |
#100 |
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Or, just plain lying? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-22-11 07:55 PM |
#103 |
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The only bluff he made was in 2008, and stupid me fell for it. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Jul-22-11 11:44 PM |
#115 |
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We all fell for it. Is it any wonder Obama has so much contempt |
UnrepentantLiberal |
Jul-23-11 12:04 PM |
#176 |
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Your insta-revisionist commentry grows tiresome. |
Poll_Blind |
Jul-23-11 12:20 AM |
#120 |
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dupe |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:23 AM |
#121 |
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No. It's called lousy negotiation techniques. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-23-11 10:49 AM |
#154 |
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Can't negotiate with no no no |
julian09 |
Jul-23-11 12:38 PM |
#180 |
| -
Don't blame this on seniors, please; or, at the minimum give me a link! |
juajen |
Jul-23-11 06:17 PM |
#226 |
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I don't think that it was seniors who stayed home last Fall. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-24-11 02:34 AM |
#237 |
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You're incorrigible. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-23-11 11:40 AM |
#169 |
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No, it's called putting SS, medicare, and medicaid on the table. |
roomfullofmirrors |
Jul-23-11 02:08 PM |
#194 |
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bwahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha rofl |
meow mix |
Jul-23-11 03:46 PM |
#211 |
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"bluffing" does not mean what you think it does |
liberation |
Jul-23-11 04:00 PM |
#214 |
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bluffing would be threatening to take it into default, not adopting the Repuke position n/t |
AlabamaLibrul |
Jul-24-11 02:52 AM |
#238 |
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Oh, it's also called hanging an albatross around your opponent's neck. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:34 PM |
#2 |
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Don't think you see it yet, but Obama has hung an "albatross" around his own neck ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:45 AM |
#129 |
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Whoah, again that term does not mean what you think it odes... |
liberation |
Jul-23-11 04:01 PM |
#215 |
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Welcome to Bizarro World. n/t |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:34 PM |
#3 |
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Do you play poker? |
Skidmore |
Jul-22-11 06:35 PM |
#4 |
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It's not a win.. |
choie |
Jul-22-11 06:35 PM |
#5 |
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That is i ADDITIOn to the first trillion of cuts. And there is another trillion missing in |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#9 |
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I'm no advocate of the "chess argument", but Obama was ready to sell us out and the pukes still said |
NightWatcher |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#10 |
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Thank god they wouldn't take it!!!!!!!! but he is meeting again tomorrow morning. |
robinlynne |
Jul-22-11 06:38 PM |
#22 |
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Higher interest rates would actually help a large number of their REAL constituents |
AllyCat |
Jul-22-11 06:39 PM |
#27 |
| -
It's obvious now that some DU'ers are totally wedded to their prejudice. |
KittyWampus |
Jul-22-11 06:40 PM |
#31 |
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It's also obvious some DU'ers |
lark |
Jul-23-11 10:34 AM |
#147 |
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I think it is more part of the triple decker chess game that convinces us in some |
AllyCat |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#11 |
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+1 -- |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 12:46 AM |
#130 |
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heckava a job Obama! |
fascisthunter |
Jul-22-11 06:36 PM |
#14 |
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I dunno, but according to the Confucii of the forum, we are supposed to apologize. So start |
FLAprogressive |
Jul-22-11 06:37 PM |
#17 |
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I salute you for saying this so much better than I could |
tularetom |
Jul-22-11 06:38 PM |
#23 |
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Boehner: "The Pres. is adamant that we cannot make fundamental changes to our entitlement programs." |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-22-11 06:39 PM |
#25 |
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You believe Boner over Obama? |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:41 PM |
#34 |
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Yes. What Obama has said backs up what Boehner said. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-22-11 06:49 PM |
#56 |
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LOL. No, it doesn't in any way unless you believe 650 billion in cuts |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:54 PM |
#66 |
| -
See my post below. |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:02 PM |
#75 |
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So? The numbers were part of Pres. Obama's bluff and Boehner folded. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-22-11 07:02 PM |
#76 |
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Excuse, but I heard $850 billion in cuts. But why are you responding to "ignored"? nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-22-11 07:34 PM |
#93 |
| -
Boehner wanted Ryan Plan on steroids. Basically destroy SS, Medicare |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:02 PM |
#74 |
| -
raising the age for medicare is a cut |
lark |
Jul-23-11 10:40 AM |
#149 |
| -
where is this a statement from Obama? |
Sheepshank |
Jul-23-11 10:55 AM |
#157 |
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Boner wants MORE "fundamental" changes than Obama wanted so that's what he means |
AllyCat |
Jul-22-11 06:43 PM |
#41 |
| -
Your opinion is similar to Republicans who refuse to raise a cent in taxes. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-22-11 06:51 PM |
#60 |
| -
Social Security should not even be on the TABLE!!!! Not at all. |
AllyCat |
Jul-22-11 06:54 PM |
#67 |
| -
Polls show Americans want both parties to compromise. Pres. Obama is bluffing. Do you get that? |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-22-11 06:58 PM |
#72 |
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We'll see what happens in the weeks to come. Since we have already cut |
AllyCat |
Jul-23-11 12:19 AM |
#119 |
| -
polls show we the people do NOT want cuts to SS/MA/MC |
bread_and_roses |
Jul-23-11 10:40 AM |
#150 |
| -
Sigh... You're grasping at the whole bale again. |
Dept of Beer |
Jul-23-11 11:01 AM |
#158 |
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Is this not almost the same amount as the amount given out to beneficiaries last year? |
Generic Other |
Jul-22-11 06:39 PM |
#26 |
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Well |
chill_wind |
Jul-22-11 06:39 PM |
#28 |
| -
Boehner: "The Pres. is adamant that we cannot make fundamental changes to our entitlement programs." |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 06:41 PM |
#33 |
| -
Or you could just believe Obama: |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:42 PM |
#39 |
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So, one of them is a fucking liar - you tell me which one. |
ThomWV |
Jul-22-11 06:44 PM |
#44 |
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both |
AllyCat |
Jul-22-11 06:47 PM |
#52 |
| -
dam ..... you're right. |
ThomWV |
Jul-22-11 06:50 PM |
#59 |
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Did you watch the press conference? Obama said boehner walked |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:10 PM |
#80 |
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"Obama's statements were entirely consistent with Boehner." Thank you for the facts, emulatorloo. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-22-11 07:35 PM |
#94 |
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They dont agree on the definition of "fundamental" as re. changes to SS. |
rhett o rick |
Jul-23-11 11:13 AM |
#163 |
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Enough with the direct deposit, jeebus! |
xxqqqzme |
Jul-23-11 11:36 AM |
#168 |
| -
We just continue for the last decade to negotiate from |
Broderick |
Jul-22-11 06:41 PM |
#35 |
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I agree...we are in power, not them. We put out the plans, not them |
AllyCat |
Jul-22-11 06:45 PM |
#47 |
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Sickening |
Broderick |
Jul-22-11 06:47 PM |
#53 |
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Is he a Pusher or something? |
eilen |
Jul-22-11 07:33 PM |
#92 |
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You get it |
Broderick |
Jul-22-11 09:40 PM |
#111 |
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Self Delete |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:11 PM |
#81 |
| -
thank God Boehner 'pulled out' ! nt |
G_j |
Jul-22-11 06:42 PM |
#40 |
| -
LOL |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-23-11 01:38 PM |
#187 |
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Did the President |
ProSense |
Jul-22-11 06:43 PM |
#43 |
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Why aren't you quoting his own words, ProSense? |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 06:49 PM |
#58 |
| -
Here |
ProSense |
Jul-22-11 06:53 PM |
#64 |
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No, his words on the deal, not on your cherry picking: |
EFerrari |
Jul-22-11 07:01 PM |
#73 |
| -
Why are you taking Obama's own words and using them against him?!!?!?!!?111!?1 Do you want PRESIDENT |
FLAprogressive |
Jul-22-11 07:35 PM |
#95 |
| -
Where is there a reference to cut in benefits? |
Sheepshank |
Jul-23-11 11:02 AM |
#159 |
| -
Nope, he only named the big three as up for $650 Billion in cuts |
ThomWV |
Jul-22-11 06:53 PM |
#63 |
| -
Did he specify benefits? |
ProSense |
Jul-22-11 06:56 PM |
#69 |
| -
Anyone who cuts funding for "needy" old people on SS is evil. |
L0oniX |
Jul-22-11 06:47 PM |
#51 |
| -
It is more of 'relief' then anything else. |
Rex |
Jul-22-11 06:48 PM |
#55 |
| -
Obama actually said he was going to screw future beneficiaries of SS |
SnoopDog |
Jul-22-11 06:52 PM |
#62 |
| -
I agree, it is no relief to learn that my son is fucked rather than myself |
ThomWV |
Jul-22-11 06:54 PM |
#65 |
| -
No! He's just talking about cutting *waste* They order A LOT of unnecessary office supplies @ SocSec |
kenny blankenship |
Jul-22-11 06:57 PM |
#71 |
| -
How much money could be saved by going Direct Deposit with all Govt Checks |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:05 PM |
#78 |
| -
SS has already begun to phase out paper checks |
DJ13 |
Jul-22-11 07:13 PM |
#82 |
| -
Good. Can Medicare negotiate with Drug Companies for better prices |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:15 PM |
#84 |
| -
Why are you insulting DU? You are free to leave. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-22-11 07:36 PM |
#96 |
| -
No, the administration gave that away when they made the deal with Tauzin... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-23-11 12:19 AM |
#118 |
| -
Yeah, and why do they staple everything!? |
kenny blankenship |
Jul-22-11 07:38 PM |
#98 |
| -
Yeah, and what's up with all this war? That costs A LOT OF MONEY. nt |
valerief |
Jul-23-11 09:12 AM |
#136 |
| -
And it was not enough |
quaker bill |
Jul-22-11 07:03 PM |
#77 |
| -
I do: Republicans want total destruction of the safety net, and no taxes on corporations or the rich |
emulatorloo |
Jul-22-11 07:06 PM |
#79 |
| -
Obama needs to up the ante to get a deal, he should offer to overturn Roe v Wade. |
Major Hogwash |
Jul-22-11 07:22 PM |
#88 |
| -
Are you joking. Our corp-overlords dont give a shit about Roe v Wade |
rhett o rick |
Jul-22-11 07:39 PM |
#99 |
| -
Well see-- he did it "forcefully". He had a sexy gleam in his eye. |
Marr |
Jul-22-11 07:36 PM |
#97 |
| -
Not to worry. He will withdraw his bid and promise to veto any cuts to present or future beneifits. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-22-11 07:54 PM |
#102 |
| -
That's true. He made them blink, and played chess, & called their bluff & looks great in a swimsuit |
Bluebear |
Jul-22-11 07:56 PM |
#104 |
| -
No flames from me, Thom |
suffragette |
Jul-22-11 07:59 PM |
#105 |
| -
This is my question too. K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Jul-22-11 08:04 PM |
#106 |
| -
well, he offered it, but it had to go through congress...he knew it didn't have a prayer |
spanone |
Jul-22-11 08:05 PM |
#107 |
| -
Definitely a bold ploy to throw away Florida in 2012! |
Creideiki |
Jul-22-11 08:20 PM |
#109 |
| -
Define changes..change SS cap, reduced payments to wealthy recipients... |
Historic NY |
Jul-22-11 09:02 PM |
#110 |
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So you prefer the default? |
treestar |
Jul-22-11 09:41 PM |
#112 |
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Does this mean you support cuts to SS? |
Forkboy |
Jul-22-11 11:46 PM |
#116 |
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Do you prefer the default? |
treestar |
Jul-23-11 09:44 AM |
#141 |
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Quit buying the story |
lark |
Jul-23-11 10:31 AM |
#145 |
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Do you support cuts to SS, yes or no? |
Forkboy |
Jul-23-11 02:56 PM |
#201 |
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I agree with ThomWV - it's the same ol shit again. |
udbcrzy2 |
Jul-22-11 11:28 PM |
#114 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-22-11 11:47 PM |
#117 |
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Please return your name tag and towel on the way out. |
MilesColtrane |
Jul-23-11 12:39 AM |
#128 |
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K&R It's not a win, by any means. It is an outrage and a crying shame. nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-23-11 12:33 AM |
#127 |
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so, here's what I heard the President say: |
pnwest |
Jul-23-11 02:06 AM |
#134 |
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So we oldsters are supposed to sell out our children and g'children? |
bread_and_roses |
Jul-23-11 10:47 AM |
#152 |
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Here is what he SHOULD have proposed |
on point |
Jul-23-11 08:48 AM |
#135 |
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So Obama's message on the campaign trail |
Middle finga |
Jul-23-11 09:23 AM |
#138 |
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Some can't tell the difference between Chess and liar's poker. |
Hubert Flottz |
Jul-23-11 09:37 AM |
#139 |
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18% real unemployment & cuts to SS and Medicare |
Jim_Shorts |
Jul-23-11 11:35 AM |
#167 |
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Wouldn't ya hate to play poker with Obama? nt |
fadedrose |
Jul-23-11 09:38 AM |
#140 |
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I am an adult, I do not play games with money. |
ThomWV |
Jul-23-11 03:51 PM |
#212 |
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To believe that the cuts to Medicare and SS |
Vattel |
Jul-23-11 10:36 AM |
#148 |
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Stated assumptions to a reduction in benefits also lacks credibility. |
Sheepshank |
Jul-23-11 11:11 AM |
#161 |
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No, I offered evidence. A respectable objection |
Vattel |
Jul-23-11 12:14 PM |
#178 |
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unknow sources and hear say are hardly credible evidence. |
Sheepshank |
Jul-23-11 01:11 PM |
#184 |
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Well, at least you are addressing my argument. |
Vattel |
Jul-23-11 03:23 PM |
#206 |
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Nope, informed by a week's worth of reporting. |
EFerrari |
Jul-23-11 03:08 PM |
#202 |
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Opinion posts are just that...opinions with no hard facts or supporting evidence |
Sheepshank |
Jul-23-11 03:14 PM |
#204 |
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Opinion pieces often cite facts in support of the opinions. |
Vattel |
Jul-23-11 03:25 PM |
#207 |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Jul-23-11 03:26 PM |
#208 |
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BERNIE SANDERS IN 2012! Fuck this noise. |
Somawas |
Jul-23-11 10:46 AM |
#151 |
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Sarah Palin thank s you for your support! |
whistler162 |
Jul-23-11 11:13 AM |
#162 |
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That old line doesn't |
emilyg |
Jul-23-11 01:50 PM |
#191 |
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Doesn't work for me. |
Somawas |
Jul-23-11 08:40 PM |
#230 |
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Thank you. I will never |
emilyg |
Jul-23-11 10:35 PM |
#234 |
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The question has been asked 'Why did Boehner walk out?" |
Leontius |
Jul-23-11 11:10 AM |
#160 |
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Bohener walked out because he is a motherfucker. |
Somawas |
Jul-23-11 10:53 PM |
#235 |
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Bill Maher had a "libertarian" guest on last night |
newspeak |
Jul-23-11 11:31 AM |
#165 |
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Loved it when the woman seated next to him... |
pnwest |
Jul-23-11 01:47 PM |
#189 |
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AS caller on Hartmann yesterday astutely observed |
Doctor_J |
Jul-23-11 11:31 AM |
#166 |
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A moment of silence |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-23-11 11:47 AM |
#172 |
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Obama is finished -- unless we're all insane -- ???? |
defendandprotect |
Jul-23-11 11:49 AM |
#173 |
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Lots of people have become sane. |
emilyg |
Jul-23-11 01:49 PM |
#190 |
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Bush might have been uneducated, but he had balls. |
earcandle |
Jul-23-11 12:13 PM |
#177 |
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I posted this earlier... |
WiffenPoof |
Jul-23-11 12:18 PM |
#179 |
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I agree |
Smilo |
Jul-23-11 12:52 PM |
#182 |
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+1 n/t |
MissDeeds |
Jul-23-11 02:34 PM |
#197 |
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Blame Republicans AND Democrats for looting the Social Security trust fund |
South End Liberal |
Jul-23-11 12:52 PM |
#181 |
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+1 |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-23-11 01:40 PM |
#188 |
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Here Here!! Absolutely. let's try 70% tax rate until debt is paid down! |
on point |
Jul-23-11 02:46 PM |
#198 |
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No, let's not |
DFW |
Jul-23-11 04:32 PM |
#218 |
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Hey I'm willing to compromise at 50% !! This is the discussion we should be having. |
on point |
Jul-23-11 05:20 PM |
#221 |
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That is a dicey limit. |
DFW |
Jul-23-11 11:32 PM |
#236 |
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So this puts the entitlement cuts squarely on the shoulders of Democrats. |
Kablooie |
Jul-23-11 01:08 PM |
#183 |
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REC. nt. |
bertman |
Jul-23-11 01:36 PM |
#186 |
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I'm so sick of the games. The people in Washington are doing nothing more than political theater. |
Vinca |
Jul-23-11 01:56 PM |
#193 |
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Who would have EVER thought that we would have to be BEGGING |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-23-11 02:50 PM |
#199 |
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How Your Social Security Money Was Stolen |
German |
Jul-23-11 02:56 PM |
#200 |
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people want to delude themselves that he was "bluffing" when he was ready to sell us out |
meow mix |
Jul-23-11 03:45 PM |
#210 |
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Deleted message |
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Jul-23-11 04:28 PM |
#217 |
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What an utter waste of time. We should be talking jobs and the future. n/t |
jtuck004 |
Jul-23-11 03:51 PM |
#213 |
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Someone needs to take the table out back, chop it into pieces, and burn it. |
sudopod |
Jul-23-11 04:41 PM |
#219 |
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