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Thu Dec-16-10 11:39 AM
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| 61. We knew what was best for Germany. |
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Too bad our country can't follow it's own good advice.
Article 9
Freedom of association
(1) All Germans shall have the right to form corporations and other associations.
(2) Associations whose aims or activities contravene the criminal laws, or that are directed against the constitutional order or the concept of international understanding, shall be prohibited.
(3) The right to form associations to safeguard and improve working and economic conditions shall be guaranteed to every individual and to every occupation or profession. Agreements that restrict or seek to impair this right shall be null and void; measures directed to this end shall be unlawful. Measures taken pursuant to Article 12a, to para- graphs (2) and (3) of Article 35, to paragraph (4) of Article 87a, or to Article 91 may not be directed against industrial disputes engaged in by associations within the meaning of the first sentence of this paragraph in order to safeguard and improve working and economic conditions.
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| -Difference between a German capitalist and a US capitalist.? |
wurzel |
Dec-15-10 01:23 PM |
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wow (nt) |
Tumbulu |
Dec-15-10 01:24 PM |
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What you said! nt |
femrap |
Dec-16-10 10:15 AM |
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Wow! That was my first reaction after I read the OP. |
Raksha |
Dec-16-10 05:07 PM |
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The Germans throw more crumbs at the masses in their own country |
Cal Carpenter |
Dec-15-10 01:25 PM |
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Crumbs? Germany has about the most equitable distribution of income on the planet... |
pampango |
Dec-15-10 02:06 PM |
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In their own country, yes |
Cal Carpenter |
Dec-15-10 02:21 PM |
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err... |
kenfrequed |
Dec-16-10 10:44 AM |
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Well |
Cal Carpenter |
Dec-16-10 04:23 PM |
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+1 (more worker) |
maryf |
Dec-16-10 09:29 PM |
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+1 |
Deep13 |
Dec-16-10 12:15 PM |
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ZERO paid days off for most of us. |
HillbillyBob |
Dec-16-10 01:29 PM |
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Uh? |
liberation |
Dec-16-10 11:12 AM |
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Excellent response! |
cyberswede |
Dec-15-10 01:25 PM |
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American capitalists will carefully step over the bodies. n/t |
moondust |
Dec-15-10 01:26 PM |
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In a few short years, American Capitalists Will BE the Bodies |
Demeter |
Dec-15-10 01:36 PM |
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The population may, at that. |
Wednesdays |
Dec-16-10 07:14 AM |
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The population has to run out of scape-goats first. nt |
Deep13 |
Dec-16-10 12:16 PM |
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But the Righty, Tea Baggers are brain washed |
Beavker |
Dec-16-10 12:44 PM |
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Once upon a time ---- she would have been right. When they paid |
jwirr |
Dec-16-10 01:39 PM |
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No they won't step over the bodies |
Chisox08 |
Dec-15-10 01:46 PM |
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Minimum wage? What's that? |
baldguy |
Dec-16-10 10:12 AM |
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Or toss the dead bodies into mass graves, which will then be torched. Or, they could use ovens nt |
Selatius |
Dec-16-10 10:44 AM |
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That's the problem with EUROPEAN SOCIALISM THEY CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER AND NOT LIKE REAL AMERICAN |
redirish28 |
Dec-15-10 01:27 PM |
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Yes, a part of SOCIALISM is that it recognizes the need for SOCIETY |
gmoney |
Dec-15-10 01:39 PM |
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Another difference between Europeans and Americans are that they aren't obsessed with STUFF |
devilgrrl |
Dec-15-10 01:56 PM |
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That's a problem I'd like to have. |
rucky |
Dec-16-10 12:38 PM |
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DAMN! I just hit the un-recommend button by mistake! |
pnorman |
Dec-15-10 01:49 PM |
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done... recommended, wish I could mash it many times. nt |
mwooldri |
Dec-15-10 02:03 PM |
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An amazing response! nt |
thereismore |
Dec-15-10 01:49 PM |
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This is what I was trying to point out on DU when I visited Germany this past summer |
devilgrrl |
Dec-15-10 01:51 PM |
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I was there a couple of years ago |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-16-10 12:42 AM |
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the workforce is also unionized as well... |
Blue_Tires |
Dec-15-10 01:58 PM |
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The law in Germany REQUIRES large companies to give workers a say in the decision-making process. |
Selatius |
Dec-16-10 07:56 AM |
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I believe many of these |
femrap |
Dec-16-10 10:20 AM |
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Details in Mike's movie |
bongbong |
Dec-16-10 10:33 AM |
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Maybe that's what we are |
femrap |
Dec-16-10 12:13 PM |
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It was also borne out of a backlash against right wing and far right wing economic policy. |
Selatius |
Dec-16-10 10:40 AM |
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Excellent point. |
kenfrequed |
Dec-16-10 10:47 AM |
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May our nation's |
femrap |
Dec-16-10 12:15 PM |
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. |
fascisthunter |
Dec-16-10 04:27 PM |
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thanks for this... |
Blue_Tires |
Dec-17-10 11:10 AM |
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All I can say is wow. |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-15-10 02:26 PM |
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That notion is common in Europe. And not uncommon here. It's the wingnuts who object. |
eallen |
Dec-15-10 06:32 PM |
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Agreed....Recently, my spouse and I were |
whathehell |
Dec-16-10 07:30 AM |
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People on this thread seem to think Germany is utopia. You'd never know that Germany has an ongoing |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-16-10 01:52 AM |
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Even with the cuts they still do a 100 times what we do for our people. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-16-10 07:18 AM |
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The cuts are ongoing. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-16-10 08:24 PM |
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I've lived there, and while you are absolutely correct, it's not Utopia... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-16-10 08:49 AM |
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Adjustments are forever ongoing with an ever increasing population.. |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-16-10 10:47 AM |
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That correlation is not necessarily correct... |
liberation |
Dec-16-10 11:15 AM |
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Yes, but at some point it wll become economical impossible.. |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-16-10 11:19 AM |
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Yes, but that is a whole different thing |
liberation |
Dec-16-10 11:22 AM |
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Population "growth" is ultimately unsustainable and therefore should never |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-16-10 11:49 AM |
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"Population "growth" is ultimately unsustainable", not hardly |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-16-10 08:55 PM |
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german capital isn't empire building? german capital occupies roughly |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-16-10 01:45 PM |
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german capital isn't empire building? no.. |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-16-10 08:57 PM |
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german capital occupies plenty of countries. it's german banks dictating austerity for a lot of the |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-16-10 09:16 PM |
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germany's population growth has been essentially flat since the 90s. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-16-10 01:49 PM |
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Germany has had to make a lot of adjustments since the merger of the east and west |
mrdmk |
Dec-16-10 01:09 PM |
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yup... as the right wing did here, they too are trying there |
fascisthunter |
Dec-16-10 04:28 PM |
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Thank you. European Welfare states are undergoing a lot of trouble right now. |
Puregonzo1188 |
Dec-16-10 05:03 PM |
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Yeah, but we won WWII!!11! |
progressoid |
Dec-16-10 03:08 AM |
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Yeah, but |
whathehell |
Dec-16-10 07:18 AM |
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I think you missed the wedding... |
liberation |
Dec-16-10 11:17 AM |
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I think you missed |
whathehell |
Dec-16-10 05:06 PM |
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Yeah! We saved their ass in WWII! |
geardaddy |
Dec-16-10 01:30 PM |
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Right... |
whathehell |
Dec-16-10 05:04 PM |
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In Germany, you get what you pay for (in taxes)... |
delightfulstar |
Dec-16-10 04:01 AM |
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It ain't all sunshine and roses... |
Cid_B |
Dec-16-10 07:36 AM |
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Cuts may be coming... |
liberation |
Dec-16-10 11:19 AM |
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Some do and some don't... |
Cid_B |
Dec-16-10 02:56 PM |
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They get it over there. |
OnionPatch |
Dec-16-10 07:58 AM |
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Bingo. This is what the American School of the wealthy don't understand. |
DirkGently |
Dec-16-10 08:49 AM |
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It never ceases to amaze me how a little friendly rhetoric is all it takes |
Cal Carpenter |
Dec-16-10 09:09 AM |
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Impressive! |
dbmk |
Dec-16-10 12:46 PM |
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There is a direct connection |
Cal Carpenter |
Dec-16-10 03:58 PM |
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It is a testimonial to political powerlessness... |
JoseGaspar |
Dec-16-10 08:45 PM |
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One speaks German. |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-16-10 09:11 AM |
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Anyone have a link??? |
Bgno64 |
Dec-16-10 10:13 AM |
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YESYESYES Yes Yes yesyesyes y e s |
Mira |
Dec-16-10 10:20 AM |
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Youngest son did summer study in Berlin this year--a German major-- |
mnhtnbb |
Dec-16-10 10:21 AM |
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I hold your son next to my heart. |
Karenina |
Dec-17-10 09:39 PM |
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LOVE that line. "I don't want to be a rich man living a poor country." nt |
valerief |
Dec-16-10 10:23 AM |
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"Because I don't want to be a rich man living in a poor country". |
and-justice-for-all |
Dec-16-10 10:41 AM |
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Jawohl! |
KansDem |
Dec-16-10 10:44 AM |
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Why do so many Americans not care about anyone but themselves? |
AllyCat |
Dec-16-10 10:51 AM |
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Conservative politicians and media have convinced them that theirs is the right way to help the poor |
stevenleser |
Dec-16-10 11:35 AM |
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Bingo |
Populist_Prole |
Dec-16-10 12:39 PM |
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It comes down to: |
harun |
Dec-16-10 01:06 PM |
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Recently found out I am entitled to dual US/German citizenship. I've been debating on whether to do |
stevenleser |
Dec-16-10 10:53 AM |
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Those who retort that Germany is not perfect or a utopia are full of FAIL. |
Moostache |
Dec-16-10 10:54 AM |
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Exactly, extremely well said. n/t |
stevenleser |
Dec-16-10 11:34 AM |
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Yes. Germany may have problems, but they have the right attitude to correct them. |
immoderate |
Dec-16-10 12:26 PM |
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because he has a conscience and brains |
fascisthunter |
Dec-16-10 11:26 AM |
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EXACTLY.... toooooo very exactly..... BUSH was pres of a FAILING POWER... big f;ing deal!!! |
happygoluckytoyou |
Dec-16-10 11:27 AM |
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We knew what was best for Germany. |
OnyxCollie |
Dec-16-10 11:39 AM |
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+1 000 000 000 000 000 |
kestrel91316 |
Dec-16-10 11:44 AM |
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The American capitalist though has an edge over the German |
Horse with no Name |
Dec-16-10 11:53 AM |
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Europeans have some memory |
Turbineguy |
Dec-16-10 12:05 PM |
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Sorry, but I wouldn't want to be rich or poor if I had to live in the German economy. nt |
newtothegame |
Dec-16-10 12:20 PM |
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I'll take being "rich or poor" in Deutschland over the U.S. ANY DAY!!! |
Karenina |
Dec-16-10 12:32 PM |
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Lived in Germany for 3 years friend. Didn't know we were required to like it. |
newtothegame |
Dec-16-10 02:12 PM |
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Glad to hear it.... |
whathehell |
Dec-16-10 09:24 PM |
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K&R! Thanks Thom for the" heads up" |
Pryderi |
Dec-16-10 12:37 PM |
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Had something similar happen to me |
harun |
Dec-16-10 01:01 PM |
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Suddenly I am very proud of my German heritage. What a great |
jwirr |
Dec-16-10 01:34 PM |
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This guy is giving a dire prediction. |
KillCapitalism |
Dec-16-10 02:29 PM |
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Thom Hartmann read this on the air today.. |
walldude |
Dec-16-10 04:03 PM |
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Someday we'll all understand this over here |
chillspike |
Dec-16-10 04:33 PM |
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Ahem! Had to clear my throat was speechless for a moment. |
RegieRocker |
Dec-16-10 08:47 PM |
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Balderdash |
guitar man |
Dec-17-10 09:45 PM |
#110 |
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