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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:23 PM
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14. The Worst thing About This, Sir, Is That It Actually Reduces Tax Revenues
To take the tripe argument that 'government must do its budgeting like your family does' seriously for a moment, what family, faced with expenses greater than income, suggests Dad should ask his boss for fewer hours down at the plant, so he will take home less pay?

No proposal that does not increase taxes, and increase them substantially on the possessors of the bulk of the country's wealth, is a serious proposal for bringing the Federal budget into better balance.

Any proposal which does not do this, and instead introduces structural, long term reductions in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits, is not a proposal to bring the Federal budget into better balance, but rather a proposal to sanctify the looting of the Social Security Trust Fund, and turn the regressive pay-roll tax on wages into the chief source of general revenue for Federal expenditures on war and tax credit paid out to big business.

The cold fact is that three things make up the present deficits; revenue forgone by the tax cuts enacted by Bush and preserved by President Obama, the costs of warfare in the Near East and Central Asia, and the loss of revenues attendant on the collapse of employment in our economy over the last three years. Anyone who wants to end deficits must look to raising revenues, curbing wwar outlays, and increasing employment.
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  -Should the Democrats in the Senate endorse the "Gang of Six" Plan? kentuck  Jul-19-11 03:56 PM   #0 
  - Does the plan get to be negotiated first?  jaxx   Jul-19-11 04:00 PM   #1 
  - Absolutely Not, Sir  The Magistrate   Jul-19-11 04:04 PM   #2 
  - I trust your judgement, Magistrate.  kentuck   Jul-19-11 04:09 PM   #6 
     - The Worst thing About This, Sir, Is That It Actually Reduces Tax Revenues  The Magistrate   Jul-19-11 04:23 PM   #14 
        - Where did you get this information?  JuniperLea   Jul-19-11 04:49 PM   #18 
        - The Money Quote, Ma'am, is From the 'Politico' Article  The Magistrate   Jul-19-11 04:56 PM   #23 
        - Sir, if you think about it, Obama has already made cuts in SS...  kentuck   Jul-19-11 04:52 PM   #21 
           - True, Sir, And That is Very Worrisome  The Magistrate   Jul-19-11 04:56 PM   #24 
  - Reducing marginal tax rates for "high earners" to 23%  TomClash   Jul-19-11 04:06 PM   #3 
  - Probably a death knell if DEMs support it. Obama's positive comments has probably doomed it already  Distant Observer   Jul-19-11 04:07 PM   #4 
  - Perhaps doomed his reelection as well if it passes.  Fearless   Jul-19-11 04:13 PM   #10 
  - Only if they want to split the Democratic Party.  damntexdem   Jul-19-11 04:07 PM   #5 
  - If I wanted Republican policies  Mz Pip   Jul-19-11 04:11 PM   #8 
     - Hear Hear, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Jul-19-11 04:44 PM   #15 
     - Completely agree. IMO, this is more stalling.  KittyWampus   Jul-19-11 04:50 PM   #19 
  - Should they negotiate the destruction of the middle class? Umm... no.  Fearless   Jul-19-11 04:10 PM   #7 
  - I guess so, if they don't want to keep their jobs.  Hubert Flottz   Jul-19-11 04:12 PM   #9 
  - That stupid plan includes a cut in Social Security  fasttense   Jul-19-11 04:14 PM   #11 
  - Hell no, and they know it.  Bluenorthwest   Jul-19-11 04:17 PM   #12 
  - It's a steaming turd on a silver platter.  bullwinkle428   Jul-19-11 04:23 PM   #13 
  - Are you telling me they negotiated the whole deal already?  JuniperLea   Jul-19-11 04:48 PM   #16 
  - Right? The thread title is egregiously wrong.  KittyWampus   Jul-19-11 04:50 PM   #20 
  - "broadly consistent with what we've been working on at the White House"  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-19-11 05:12 PM   #25 
  - No, we're not FORMALLY screwed yet. But by then it's kind of too late isn't it?  Pholus   Jul-19-11 07:46 PM   #31 
  - Where did Obama endorse this specific plan? HE DIDN'T.  KittyWampus   Jul-19-11 04:49 PM   #17 
  - He did.  Fearless   Jul-19-11 05:44 PM   #30 
  - NO. nt  The Big Vetolski   Jul-19-11 04:52 PM   #22 
  - oh HELL no. n/t  Donnachaidh   Jul-19-11 05:13 PM   #26 
  - Not just no, but HELL, NO!  kath   Jul-19-11 05:13 PM   #27 
  - Only if they think voting under duress to endorse the continued raiding of SS to finance general...  Faryn Balyncd   Jul-19-11 05:18 PM   #28 
  - The "gang of six" and their effing plan suck...That means "No". n/t  whathehell   Jul-19-11 05:30 PM   #29 
  - Fucking HELL no!!!! n/t  eridani   Jul-20-11 02:54 AM   #32 
  - President Obama did NOT endorse the plan, he hasn't even read it yet.  Tx4obama   Jul-20-11 03:05 AM   #33 
  - Let the DNC know what you think of this bullshit.  eridani   Jul-20-11 03:09 AM   #34 
  - Of course Dems should vote "no" on any proposal that includes dismantling the social safety net.  AtomicKitten   Jul-20-11 03:11 AM   #35 
 

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