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I am SOOOOOOO right there with you on all of the above.  but since the rage and feeling oif futility are just not helping, I am trying to realize that everything breaks down at one point, and that we are fooling ourselves if we think that the 'old world thinking' is going to continue to get us anywhere... better to focus on what i can do here in my own backyard, in my own community, and just be adaptable because things are never going to get back to 'where they were' before the wars and the 2008 crash. It's a broken system/machine beyond repair and the ones who think they are going to fix it keep pocketing the parts... so we have to build our own way and stop playing by their rules. the rest will really take care of itself to some degree, the warmongers will have their own implosion to deal with... |
| -God Damn. Just God Damn... |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-16-11 09:52 PM |
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k/r |
emilyg |
Jul-16-11 09:53 PM |
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My dear cherokeeprogressive... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Jul-16-11 09:57 PM |
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stripped, trashed, burned out hulk in ruins. n/t |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-16-11 10:06 PM |
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I thought I bought a Prius |
Mendocino |
Jul-17-11 10:55 AM |
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"...has an eight track..." |
CrispyQ |
Jul-17-11 11:21 AM |
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dont laugh too hard |
SwampG8r |
Jul-18-11 12:03 AM |
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I think I might have ridden in that car |
Art_from_Ark |
Jul-19-11 12:48 AM |
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Hmm? |
YOHABLO |
Jul-17-11 07:22 PM |
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War profiteers selling gas to American troops at $1000/gal in Afganistan under contract. |
bjobotts |
Jul-17-11 02:06 PM |
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This is where the spending cuts should be focused...not Medicare etc. |
bjobotts |
Jul-17-11 02:07 PM |
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The defense dept lost over $1.3 trillion yet refused to be audited? |
bjobotts |
Jul-17-11 02:09 PM |
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We could pay the mortgage for every American on just what the Pentagon "loses". |
bjobotts |
Jul-17-11 02:11 PM |
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THAT is illegal. Audits are required to protect the people's treasury. What dickhead is not doing |
earcandle |
Jul-17-11 02:59 PM |
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Congress gave Pentagon until 2017 to get its books in order. |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 03:32 PM |
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Thanks for the info -- Important enough to be a separate OP -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-17-11 09:03 PM |
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Just got to balance the bank statements and put transactions where they belong. What is hard about |
earcandle |
Jul-18-11 12:22 PM |
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That's 6 years, during which some very creative accouting will be done. |
Prana69 |
Jul-19-11 12:11 AM |
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The missing money issue was buried forever on 9/11... |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-17-11 04:35 PM |
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Bulldung... the bank has copies of every transaction. I can rebuild a set of books from bank records |
earcandle |
Jul-18-11 12:23 PM |
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That's right - and if this prez wasn't in it up to his eyeballs just like the others... |
polichick |
Jul-17-11 02:31 PM |
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+1 -- and don't think we'll hear our "free press" raise any of those questions ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jul-17-11 09:04 PM |
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You and I won't see any returns on these mad crazy wars, but the |
Cal33 |
Jul-17-11 03:15 PM |
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yep, it's stock standard "privatise the gains, socialise the losses" n/t |
Prana69 |
Jul-19-11 12:15 AM |
#145 |
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Yeah...otherwise known as a LEMON! n/t |
Raksha |
Jul-17-11 04:51 PM |
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A lemon. nt |
emmadoggy |
Jul-17-11 09:05 PM |
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You can start by changing the makeup of CONGRESS. |
CakeGrrl |
Jul-16-11 10:07 PM |
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And you act as if Obama is a figurehead and a powerless wimp. |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 08:57 AM |
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That is their only defense of his actions. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-17-11 10:38 AM |
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Sadly, he is neither powerless nor impotent - he's following his own agenda - |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 02:57 PM |
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Obama’s Bush-League World Is the Obama National Security Team a Pilotless Drone? By Tom Engelhardt |
KoKo |
Jul-17-11 10:50 AM |
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Chilling read - please post it as an OP |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 03:23 PM |
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don't ya feel |
whathappened |
Jul-17-11 10:13 PM |
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Well said |
MissDeeds |
Jul-17-11 11:32 AM |
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It depends on the day of the week |
liberation |
Jul-17-11 01:28 PM |
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Geez just read the Constitution |
treestar |
Jul-17-11 01:37 PM |
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You are DEAD wrong. POTUS controls the State Dept. & foreign diplomacy. |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 02:54 PM |
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Plus 1 million trillion |
Caretha |
Jul-17-11 09:18 PM |
#127 |
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The facts are the facts... thanks for reminding us. Is this a do or die response for Obama, or is |
earcandle |
Jul-17-11 03:02 PM |
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He's spreading his Drone War beyond AlQaeda and headed for Northern Africa |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 03:21 PM |
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Notice how US Troops are pulling out according to PLAN.... |
mcollier |
Jul-17-11 10:08 PM |
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You do realize we have held the Congress for seriously like 65 out of 75 years or something? |
TheKentuckian |
Jul-17-11 09:18 AM |
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I'd venture a guess that if the President stepped up to the podium and said |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-17-11 09:38 AM |
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More Liberals in Congress so that... |
onyourleft |
Jul-17-11 09:39 AM |
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Can we really hope to |
Enthusiast |
Jul-17-11 10:24 AM |
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+1,000 |
freshwest |
Jul-17-11 12:16 PM |
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Yeah, we should elect more Democrats |
liberation |
Jul-17-11 01:26 PM |
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Agreed! |
earcandle |
Jul-17-11 02:59 PM |
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NASA could have made MUCH better use of that money. |
July16th-20th |
Jul-16-11 10:08 PM |
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Lots of people think NASA and the space program are |
pipi_k |
Jul-17-11 09:40 AM |
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I remember when they would cite |
Enthusiast |
Jul-17-11 10:29 AM |
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Tang! |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jul-17-11 10:52 AM |
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Sorry but Microwave ovens were not developed from the space program. |
sce56 |
Jul-17-11 12:31 PM |
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"There's even some evidence to suggest that microwaving destroys the natural harmony in water" |
liberation |
Jul-17-11 01:31 PM |
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OK, so the space program didn't invent microwave ovens. And ... |
The Big Vetolski |
Jul-17-11 02:17 PM |
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Absolute fearmongering BS |
DissedByBush |
Jul-17-11 09:48 PM |
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No question |
Enthusiast |
Jul-17-11 10:25 AM |
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Trickle down blood. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Jul-17-11 12:45 PM |
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Thanks! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-17-11 05:19 PM |
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Fuckin' - A! |
FirstLight |
Jul-16-11 10:08 PM |
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k & r |
girl gone mad |
Jul-16-11 10:13 PM |
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War is a drain on the country's time, treasure and talent. |
Melissa G |
Jul-16-11 10:25 PM |
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Problem with that is the only place hiring is the army |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-16-11 10:26 PM |
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Between privatization of military functions & our failed economy, there's backup to enlist |
Divernan |
Jul-17-11 09:02 AM |
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Yes!! K&R |
Desertrose |
Jul-16-11 10:33 PM |
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Amen, brother! |
pscot |
Jul-16-11 10:50 PM |
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We're supposed to believe that it's keeping us safe |
eleny |
Jul-16-11 10:52 PM |
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Yeah, too bad it does the opposite. |
krabigirl |
Jul-17-11 05:30 PM |
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I'm pissed too |
latebloomer |
Jul-16-11 11:18 PM |
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Not only that - the only thing this war seems to be for is profit. |
Initech |
Jul-16-11 11:21 PM |
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That's what it's really all about. Pouring American tax dollars into corporate pockets. |
Kablooie |
Jul-17-11 01:42 AM |
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Exactly.......nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-17-11 10:31 AM |
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This war? |
liberation |
Jul-17-11 01:35 PM |
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It's another part of the shock doctrine |
XanaDUer |
Jul-17-11 09:03 AM |
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Damn; Great Post! Recommend. n/t |
NorthCarolina |
Jul-17-11 09:08 AM |
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"Investment" is the new business-friendly term . What dividends, from war? |
DirkGently |
Jul-17-11 09:29 AM |
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Have congress initate the DRAFT, start showing the flag draped coffins |
Yon_Yonson |
Jul-17-11 09:32 AM |
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Our Money is being spent on wars, and tax cuts for the bankers and their owners... |
midnight |
Jul-17-11 09:36 AM |
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But but but it would cut into Shell's profits if they had to do their own |
TBF |
Jul-17-11 09:50 AM |
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The fact that Obama is now going to support the war pigs by punishing grandma is |
grahamhgreen |
Jul-17-11 09:53 AM |
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+1000 .nt |
Hawkowl |
Jul-17-11 10:26 AM |
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+1 |
Fearless |
Jul-17-11 11:37 AM |
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Kicked and wholeheartedly Rec'd |
Myrina |
Jul-17-11 09:56 AM |
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There's no profit in humanity |
Shadowflash |
Jul-17-11 09:57 AM |
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"OUR MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON WAR" |
Zorra |
Jul-17-11 10:11 AM |
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We all agree with you |
Arby |
Jul-17-11 10:19 AM |
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Damn straight! |
Enthusiast |
Jul-17-11 10:20 AM |
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Depends on whose perspective you're asking from. Cheney's? YESSSS! Bush's? Yee-Haw! G.E.'s? Score! |
WinkyDink |
Jul-17-11 10:22 AM |
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They are spending about 60% of the discretionary budget on things that go boom |
Jim_Shorts |
Jul-17-11 11:10 AM |
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Change that isn't a campaign slogan. Amen to that. |
Vinca |
Jul-17-11 11:11 AM |
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I'm with you |
humanityisfree |
Jul-17-11 11:28 AM |
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The world is run by a class of criminally insane psychopaths. Get rid of that entire class |
Beam Me Up |
Jul-17-11 11:30 AM |
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Exactly. Cf. "Political Ponerology". nt |
inna |
Jul-17-11 01:03 PM |
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K&R |
MissDeeds |
Jul-17-11 11:33 AM |
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"It's time for change we can feel, touch, see, and benefit from." +10000 |
Fearless |
Jul-17-11 11:36 AM |
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$2 billion a week on war and they're going after our Social Security next. |
Chimichurri |
Jul-17-11 11:52 AM |
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There is a return on our war investment. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-17-11 12:02 PM |
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You can vent about it all you want, but it won't do you any good. |
totodeinhere |
Jul-17-11 12:06 PM |
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It isn't the lack of positive change from Obama that bothers me |
tularetom |
Jul-17-11 12:58 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Jul-17-11 01:36 PM |
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protests? |
IcyPeas |
Jul-17-11 01:42 PM |
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+ 1,000 |
swilton |
Jul-17-11 02:26 PM |
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I want one here in L.A. that I can attend. I wish it was nationwide |
IcyPeas |
Jul-17-11 06:54 PM |
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Noam Chomsky is right |
roberto IS beto |
Jul-17-11 01:53 PM |
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White House contact here: |
IcyPeas |
Jul-17-11 01:57 PM |
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2 48" pipelines in Afghanistan, oil in Iraq and "protection" |
Hubert Flottz |
Jul-17-11 01:58 PM |
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Jul-17-11 02:00 PM |
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October 6, 2011 |
swilton |
Jul-17-11 02:09 PM |
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They have finally trained us not to question eternal war. |
Orsino |
Jul-17-11 02:20 PM |
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I cannot rec this thread enough |
Taverner |
Jul-17-11 02:34 PM |
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Rich people get richer. That's the only reason for war anyway. nt |
valerief |
Jul-17-11 02:42 PM |
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A rant one can be proud to repost! |
earcandle |
Jul-17-11 02:57 PM |
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The return is Negative Nada based on lives ruined, if you ask me |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-17-11 03:04 PM |
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And I agree with you 100%, we need to draft the demands and take them to our reps. |
SaveAmerica |
Jul-17-11 03:05 PM |
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War is a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed and now |
L0oniX |
Jul-17-11 03:09 PM |
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K/R I'm with you all the way, and I just have no hope |
Autumn |
Jul-17-11 03:18 PM |
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Killing things....its the "American Way" |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-17-11 04:08 PM |
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I desperately wish I COULD give you hope... |
Guilded Lilly |
Jul-17-11 04:16 PM |
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well said. nt |
DesertFlower |
Jul-17-11 04:42 PM |
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K & R Wow...just WOW! |
Raksha |
Jul-17-11 04:50 PM |
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A big K&R!!! n/t |
proReality |
Jul-17-11 05:07 PM |
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Well said and I agree! n/t |
Paper Roses |
Jul-17-11 05:14 PM |
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Yawn. n/t |
Fire1 |
Jul-17-11 05:15 PM |
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.... |
krabigirl |
Jul-17-11 05:29 PM |
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Unintentionally, you've made the perfect post for this thread. |
Forkboy |
Jul-17-11 05:56 PM |
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K & R. This country has gone mad. Nt |
krabigirl |
Jul-17-11 05:30 PM |
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I rabidly share your anger. |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Jul-17-11 05:46 PM |
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We haven't always agreed on certain views and issues... |
KansDem |
Jul-17-11 06:17 PM |
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K & R K & R K & R K & R K & R K & R K & R K & R K & R K & R |
democrank |
Jul-17-11 06:20 PM |
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K&R n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jul-17-11 06:21 PM |
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What is it good for? Absolutely nothing |
The Wizard |
Jul-17-11 07:09 PM |
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Well said n/t |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jul-17-11 07:17 PM |
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K&R! |
shanti |
Jul-17-11 07:25 PM |
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This may make you want to vomit. |
YOHABLO |
Jul-17-11 07:41 PM |
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A Fox News link. How much did you get paid to post this? |
Doctor_J |
Jul-17-11 08:55 PM |
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Jul-17-11 08:52 PM |
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put some thought into your own, you ditz |
MrMickeysMom |
Jul-17-11 09:59 PM |
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Hooked YOU like a fish though, didn't it. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-17-11 10:17 PM |
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Uh, no that was the 200+ rec's |
Doctor_J |
Jul-18-11 06:31 PM |
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But, but, but...He got the Peace Prize! So he can't be a warmonger, right? |
Creideiki |
Jul-17-11 09:04 PM |
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Perpetual war/War Profiteers only do us harm, but they exist and it's ... |
defendandprotect |
Jul-17-11 09:22 PM |
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Ten Thousand, Gazillion RECs!!! |
Plucketeer |
Jul-17-11 09:55 PM |
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Not a thing I'd disagree with... but if we want change... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jul-17-11 09:56 PM |
#131 |
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"How do we get people to vote so that we can have something or someone who we can believe in?" |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-17-11 10:15 PM |
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If we did that... it couldn't stop there... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jul-17-11 10:25 PM |
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Concur. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jul-17-11 10:31 PM |
#138 |
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KICKETY KIK SINCE IM TOO LATE TO RECC |
StarsInHerHair |
Jul-17-11 11:13 PM |
#139 |
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