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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:42 AM
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85. great... I'll die before I get to retire and somebody here will tell me to accept it
fuck you
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  -Live Feed for President Obama's Upcoming Press Conference. MineralMan  Jul-15-11 09:43 AM   #0 
  - K&R Thanks for the PSA! Do you happen to be watching  gateley   Jul-15-11 09:45 AM   #1 
  - Sorry. I wasn't watching.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 09:47 AM   #2 
     - Well, we'll learn about it when the President speaks. I do know  gateley   Jul-15-11 09:52 AM   #3 
  - It has begun.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 09:59 AM   #4 
  - Starts by explaining the importance of raising ceiling.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:00 AM   #5 
  - Willing to cut domestic spending.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:02 AM   #6 
  - Willing to cut military spending? They have already passed the defense spending bill.  thewiseguy   Jul-15-11 10:03 AM   #8 
     - Easier to get forgiveness then permission. LOL nt  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:06 AM   #11 
     - I'm just reporting what he said.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:06 AM   #13 
     - Maybe he means FY12 and the out-years. n/t  gkhouston   Jul-15-11 10:11 AM   #27 
  - Wants to raise revenues.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:02 AM   #7 
  - Stresses polls that indicate most citizens want  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:04 AM   #9 
  - Why is Obama Pushing a Huge Deficit Reduction Bill now?  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:04 AM   #10 
  - Why would you make fundamental changes to Medicare, SS, tax codes, budgets,  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:08 AM   #16 
     - Of course, they have manufactured an emergency.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:09 AM   #19 
     - This is how they do it without allowing public opinion to interfere.  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:18 AM   #40 
        - "We don't need more debate.....We simply need to make these tough choices...  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:24 AM   #56 
           - Then go on vacation!  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:48 AM   #92 
     - I heard Bernanke  Liberalynn   Jul-15-11 10:25 AM   #61 
        - Three hundred economists have warned against this crap.  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:29 AM   #68 
           - Sorry I miscommunicated there.  Liberalynn   Jul-15-11 10:34 AM   #76 
              - He also misrepresents polls.  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:40 AM   #83 
  - We are running out of time, he says.  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:06 AM   #12 
  - Here comes the entitlement questions...  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:07 AM   #14 
  - He is willing to raise retirement age and means test it.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:08 AM   #15 
  - +1. I agree. Completely unacceptable. nt  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:08 AM   #17 
  - Means testing is a major doozy for SS. It will open it up for privatization.  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:08 AM   #18 
  - Several studies show means testing, to produce savings, would cut benefits for pple who make 40k  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:10 AM   #21 
  - It's not a winning argument.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:11 AM   #22 
  - I agree - I would only agree to means testing if it were an  TBF   Jul-15-11 10:12 AM   #28 
  - +++++100000  Liberalynn   Jul-15-11 10:29 AM   #69 
  - It = going after the savings accounts of seniors.  WinkyDink   Jul-15-11 10:43 AM   #86 
  - At some point the retirement age is going to have to be raised.  PragmaticLiberal   Jul-15-11 10:10 AM   #20 
     - Why is that? SS is fine.  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:11 AM   #24 
     - +1  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:11 AM   #26 
     - It is perfectly fine, if only the middle class received more of the money it has been making.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:15 AM   #39 
     - All current models indicate SS is solvent for the next 20 years.  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:19 AM   #43 
        - Well, it's not a good idea. The workers should be paid more in the first place...  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:21 AM   #47 
           - If we had a lower unemployment rate, it would be fine.  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:22 AM   #53 
           - Very true. And we must keep the taxes on the middle class...  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:26 AM   #62 
           - Of course we should be paid more...  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:30 AM   #70 
           - We will not win in the government, until we win the economy.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:31 AM   #72 
              - As I wrote in another thread...  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:35 AM   #80 
                 - 2012 is too late. We must win tomorrow, the week after, and the next coming months.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:37 AM   #81 
                    - Oh I agree.  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:43 AM   #87 
           - Productivity increases shouldn't necessarily translate to more pay  metalbot   Jul-15-11 11:33 AM   #96 
     - You're absolutely right but I was thinking about whats going to actually pass.  PragmaticLiberal   Jul-15-11 10:20 AM   #45 
        - if taxes can't be raised on the rich,  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:31 AM   #73 
     - No. Sorry. False Choice.  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:11 AM   #25 
     - We have enough money to pay for social security.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:12 AM   #31 
     - With 10% unemployment we ought to be LOWERING it -  TBF   Jul-15-11 10:13 AM   #32 
     - +1000. That would be an economically feasible solution, and  gkhouston   Jul-15-11 10:14 AM   #36 
     - Yep. Kucinich had an idea like that. Of course, pple dismissed it as crazy.  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:19 AM   #44 
     - No it doesn't. Can you prove your assertion? n/t  myrna minx   Jul-15-11 10:14 AM   #34 
     - As a farmer involved in heavy labor, there's no way I'll make it to 67. Nor will firefighters, cops,  riderinthestorm   Jul-15-11 10:15 AM   #38 
     - Even law firms have mandatory retirement (ofen 65) -  TBF   Jul-15-11 10:20 AM   #46 
        - That's exactly what should happen. And social security is really too low.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:22 AM   #50 
        - Plus less people retiring means less jobs opening up  Liberalynn   Jul-15-11 10:52 AM   #94 
     - No. Not true in the least.  WinkyDink   Jul-15-11 10:44 AM   #88 
  - Question about "entitlements."  MineralMan   Jul-15-11 10:11 AM   #23 
  - A senior will have to pay more....but we expect a millionaire to do something, too.....  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:12 AM   #29 
  - Raising Cap? Only acceptable proposal.  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:12 AM   #30 
     - I agree - that's where they need to do some work.  TBF   Jul-15-11 10:14 AM   #33 
     - Funny how he never mentions that. nt  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:26 AM   #64 
        - B/c he doesn't want to. He keeps talking about the American people.  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:27 AM   #67 
           - This should be the Democratic message.  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:35 AM   #78 
  - Press conference title..."How can we screw people with no money"  Safetykitten   Jul-15-11 10:14 AM   #35 
  - + a million nt  TBF   Jul-15-11 10:14 AM   #37 
  - I will watch the actual presser tonight but from all indications...  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:22 AM   #51 
     - It's horrible.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:23 AM   # 
  - It's now a layer cake. No peas. A layer cake.  Safetykitten   Jul-15-11 10:18 AM   #41 
  - He thinks Social Security is in trouble, but is going to lower the taxes that pay for it?  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:18 AM   #42 
  - I do. I think he's wrong that 80% of pple want budget cuts in a "balanced solution."  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:21 AM   #48 
  - I didn't hear him say that SS is in trouble.  Renew Deal   Jul-15-11 10:22 AM   #54 
  - Because it's not.  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:24 AM   #58 
  - That's why they want to "cut" benefits.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:24 AM   #59 
  - I know its a joke.  newportdadde   Jul-15-11 10:46 AM   #90 
  - "The American people are sold."  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:21 AM   #49 
  - We're sold on cutting food stamps? Medicaid? nope  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:23 AM   #55 
     - +1  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 10:27 AM   #65 
  - Obama was very honest about "members of congress being dyed into past statements."  Renew Deal   Jul-15-11 10:22 AM   #52 
  - "We don't have to do anything radical to solve this problem". There it is kids. His presidency.  Safetykitten   Jul-15-11 10:24 AM   #57 
  - no hope and loose change. nt  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:25 AM   #60 
  - Forget brother can you spare a dime...  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:27 AM   #66 
  - What do you mean? Did he lose it or win it? n/t  theophilus   Jul-15-11 10:26 AM   #63 
  - He is NOT the right man for the times.  NCarolinawoman   Jul-15-11 10:42 AM   #84 
  - Oh great. His base is looking at things from a "narrow" perspective. I guess Obama knows best for us  jtown1123   Jul-15-11 10:31 AM   #71 
  - I.e., he simply loathes the Baby Boomers. I believe it IS that simple. We cost too much. We're too  WinkyDink   Jul-15-11 10:47 AM   #91 
  - Trade deals. Top job creators. The republicans TOLD him so.  Safetykitten   Jul-15-11 10:32 AM   #74 
  - He's wearing a really pretty tie, too bad he's spewing bullshit all over it.  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:33 AM   #75 
  - "If your ideologically rigid position lasts more than four hours,  originalpckelly   Jul-15-11 10:34 AM   #77 
  - There is some serious fucked up thought on that last thing he just said about who people will blame.  Safetykitten   Jul-15-11 10:35 AM   #79 
  - Frankly, from what I have read here today, regarding his statements...  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:39 AM   #82 
  - So will I, as he will do so without union support on the ground. No GOTV next time.  WinkyDink   Jul-15-11 10:49 AM   #93 
  - Headlines in last Friday's paper: OBAMA puts SOCIAL SECURITY on the TABLE.  NCarolinawoman   Jul-15-11 10:59 AM   #95 
  - great... I'll die before I get to retire and somebody here will tell me to accept it  fascisthunter   Jul-15-11 10:42 AM   #85 
     - I'm right there with you.  Javaman   Jul-15-11 10:45 AM   #89 

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