Javaman
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 43. All current models indicate SS is solvent for the next 20 years. |
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As I repeat, when it does get in trouble 20 years from now, raise the cap on the pay in to include those in higher tax brackets.
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| -Live Feed for President Obama's Upcoming Press Conference. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 09:43 AM |
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K&R Thanks for the PSA! Do you happen to be watching |
gateley |
Jul-15-11 09:45 AM |
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Sorry. I wasn't watching. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 09:47 AM |
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Well, we'll learn about it when the President speaks. I do know |
gateley |
Jul-15-11 09:52 AM |
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It has begun. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 09:59 AM |
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Starts by explaining the importance of raising ceiling. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:00 AM |
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Willing to cut domestic spending. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:02 AM |
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Willing to cut military spending? They have already passed the defense spending bill. |
thewiseguy |
Jul-15-11 10:03 AM |
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Easier to get forgiveness then permission. LOL nt |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:06 AM |
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I'm just reporting what he said. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:06 AM |
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Maybe he means FY12 and the out-years. n/t |
gkhouston |
Jul-15-11 10:11 AM |
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Wants to raise revenues. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:02 AM |
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Stresses polls that indicate most citizens want |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:04 AM |
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Why is Obama Pushing a Huge Deficit Reduction Bill now? |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:04 AM |
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Why would you make fundamental changes to Medicare, SS, tax codes, budgets, |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:08 AM |
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Of course, they have manufactured an emergency. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:09 AM |
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This is how they do it without allowing public opinion to interfere. |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:18 AM |
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"We don't need more debate.....We simply need to make these tough choices... |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:24 AM |
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Then go on vacation! |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:48 AM |
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I heard Bernanke |
Liberalynn |
Jul-15-11 10:25 AM |
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Three hundred economists have warned against this crap. |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:29 AM |
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Sorry I miscommunicated there. |
Liberalynn |
Jul-15-11 10:34 AM |
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He also misrepresents polls. |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:40 AM |
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We are running out of time, he says. |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:06 AM |
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Here comes the entitlement questions... |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:07 AM |
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He is willing to raise retirement age and means test it. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:08 AM |
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+1. I agree. Completely unacceptable. nt |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:08 AM |
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Means testing is a major doozy for SS. It will open it up for privatization. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:08 AM |
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Several studies show means testing, to produce savings, would cut benefits for pple who make 40k |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:10 AM |
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It's not a winning argument. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:11 AM |
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I agree - I would only agree to means testing if it were an |
TBF |
Jul-15-11 10:12 AM |
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+++++100000 |
Liberalynn |
Jul-15-11 10:29 AM |
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It = going after the savings accounts of seniors. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-11 10:43 AM |
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At some point the retirement age is going to have to be raised. |
PragmaticLiberal |
Jul-15-11 10:10 AM |
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Why is that? SS is fine. |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:11 AM |
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+1 |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:11 AM |
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It is perfectly fine, if only the middle class received more of the money it has been making. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:15 AM |
#39 |
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All current models indicate SS is solvent for the next 20 years. |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:19 AM |
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Well, it's not a good idea. The workers should be paid more in the first place... |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:21 AM |
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If we had a lower unemployment rate, it would be fine. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:22 AM |
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Very true. And we must keep the taxes on the middle class... |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:26 AM |
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Of course we should be paid more... |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:30 AM |
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We will not win in the government, until we win the economy. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:31 AM |
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As I wrote in another thread... |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:35 AM |
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2012 is too late. We must win tomorrow, the week after, and the next coming months. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:37 AM |
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Oh I agree. |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:43 AM |
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Productivity increases shouldn't necessarily translate to more pay |
metalbot |
Jul-15-11 11:33 AM |
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You're absolutely right but I was thinking about whats going to actually pass. |
PragmaticLiberal |
Jul-15-11 10:20 AM |
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if taxes can't be raised on the rich, |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:31 AM |
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No. Sorry. False Choice. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:11 AM |
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We have enough money to pay for social security. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:12 AM |
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With 10% unemployment we ought to be LOWERING it - |
TBF |
Jul-15-11 10:13 AM |
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+1000. That would be an economically feasible solution, and |
gkhouston |
Jul-15-11 10:14 AM |
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Yep. Kucinich had an idea like that. Of course, pple dismissed it as crazy. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:19 AM |
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No it doesn't. Can you prove your assertion? n/t |
myrna minx |
Jul-15-11 10:14 AM |
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As a farmer involved in heavy labor, there's no way I'll make it to 67. Nor will firefighters, cops, |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-15-11 10:15 AM |
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Even law firms have mandatory retirement (ofen 65) - |
TBF |
Jul-15-11 10:20 AM |
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That's exactly what should happen. And social security is really too low. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:22 AM |
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Plus less people retiring means less jobs opening up |
Liberalynn |
Jul-15-11 10:52 AM |
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No. Not true in the least. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-11 10:44 AM |
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Question about "entitlements." |
MineralMan |
Jul-15-11 10:11 AM |
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A senior will have to pay more....but we expect a millionaire to do something, too..... |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:12 AM |
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Raising Cap? Only acceptable proposal. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:12 AM |
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I agree - that's where they need to do some work. |
TBF |
Jul-15-11 10:14 AM |
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Funny how he never mentions that. nt |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:26 AM |
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B/c he doesn't want to. He keeps talking about the American people. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:27 AM |
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This should be the Democratic message. |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:35 AM |
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Press conference title..."How can we screw people with no money" |
Safetykitten |
Jul-15-11 10:14 AM |
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+ a million nt |
TBF |
Jul-15-11 10:14 AM |
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I will watch the actual presser tonight but from all indications... |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:22 AM |
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It's horrible. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:23 AM |
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It's now a layer cake. No peas. A layer cake. |
Safetykitten |
Jul-15-11 10:18 AM |
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He thinks Social Security is in trouble, but is going to lower the taxes that pay for it? |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:18 AM |
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I do. I think he's wrong that 80% of pple want budget cuts in a "balanced solution." |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:21 AM |
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I didn't hear him say that SS is in trouble. |
Renew Deal |
Jul-15-11 10:22 AM |
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Because it's not. |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:24 AM |
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That's why they want to "cut" benefits. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:24 AM |
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I know its a joke. |
newportdadde |
Jul-15-11 10:46 AM |
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"The American people are sold." |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:21 AM |
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We're sold on cutting food stamps? Medicaid? nope |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:23 AM |
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+1 |
woo me with science |
Jul-15-11 10:27 AM |
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Obama was very honest about "members of congress being dyed into past statements." |
Renew Deal |
Jul-15-11 10:22 AM |
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"We don't have to do anything radical to solve this problem". There it is kids. His presidency. |
Safetykitten |
Jul-15-11 10:24 AM |
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no hope and loose change. nt |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:25 AM |
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Forget brother can you spare a dime... |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:27 AM |
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What do you mean? Did he lose it or win it? n/t |
theophilus |
Jul-15-11 10:26 AM |
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He is NOT the right man for the times. |
NCarolinawoman |
Jul-15-11 10:42 AM |
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Oh great. His base is looking at things from a "narrow" perspective. I guess Obama knows best for us |
jtown1123 |
Jul-15-11 10:31 AM |
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I.e., he simply loathes the Baby Boomers. I believe it IS that simple. We cost too much. We're too |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-11 10:47 AM |
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Trade deals. Top job creators. The republicans TOLD him so. |
Safetykitten |
Jul-15-11 10:32 AM |
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He's wearing a really pretty tie, too bad he's spewing bullshit all over it. |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:33 AM |
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"If your ideologically rigid position lasts more than four hours, |
originalpckelly |
Jul-15-11 10:34 AM |
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There is some serious fucked up thought on that last thing he just said about who people will blame. |
Safetykitten |
Jul-15-11 10:35 AM |
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Frankly, from what I have read here today, regarding his statements... |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:39 AM |
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So will I, as he will do so without union support on the ground. No GOTV next time. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-15-11 10:49 AM |
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Headlines in last Friday's paper: OBAMA puts SOCIAL SECURITY on the TABLE. |
NCarolinawoman |
Jul-15-11 10:59 AM |
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great... I'll die before I get to retire and somebody here will tell me to accept it |
fascisthunter |
Jul-15-11 10:42 AM |
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I'm right there with you. |
Javaman |
Jul-15-11 10:45 AM |
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