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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 03:06 PM
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6. Not really. Not everything. It's not great, but there are some things.
He has agreed to accept the budget that was offered, but is insisting that all social issues formerly added to those bills, restrictions on collective bargaining by state workers, and a few other things be removed, leaving only the fiscal portions of the bills. In addition, he is asking for a $500 Million bonding issue for certain construction projects.

So, he has not actually caved completely. If he succeeds in getting this put together, a helluva lot of noxious crap inserted by the Republicans will be gone. Since they have no possibility of getting those things as separate issues past the Governor's veto, it is a concession I think the Republicans may well reject.

We don't know what their response is as of this moment. We should find out shortly, once the Republicans have checked with their bosses.
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  -Hartmann just announced that Dayton caved completely Doctor_J  Jul-14-11 02:57 PM   #0 
  - From what I heard on the news, he agreed to a budget with no increased tax revenue  MadHound   Jul-14-11 02:59 PM   #1 
  - Or, IOW he gave the fascist legislature everything they wanted  Doctor_J   Jul-14-11 03:00 PM   #3 
  - Yes. We must reverse the disaster that was 2010, both  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 03:14 PM   #9 
  - I've heard this earlier today as Minnesota Public Radio has been covering it for hours.  elocs   Jul-14-11 03:00 PM   #2 
  - The problem is that Dayton has a conscience, the Roopublicon have greed. nt  tsuki   Jul-14-11 07:29 PM   #38 
  - This is what happens when Republicans are continually allowed to frame every issue.  FLAprogressive   Jul-14-11 03:02 PM   #4 
  - Which is not going to change until we take a few hundred of their  Doctor_J   Jul-14-11 03:07 PM   #7 
  - Not necessarily  Poiuyt   Jul-14-11 05:29 PM   #23 
  - You're missing the big picture  Doctor_J   Jul-14-11 05:51 PM   #24 
  - You nailed it. People have been crowing that Obama is finally "using the bully pulpit."  woo me with science   Jul-15-11 09:15 AM   #42 
  - We controlled the framing of issues in 2006 and 2008. We should be able to do it again.  FLAprogressive   Jul-15-11 08:50 AM   #40 
  - Here's the deal: Republicans gained control of both houses of  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 03:11 PM   #8 
     - Oh, sorry, thanks for playing  Doctor_J   Jul-14-11 03:21 PM   #10 
     - Oh, I'm wide awake. I have been for decades.  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 03:30 PM   #11 
     - Well Stated...Elections Have Consequences...  KharmaTrain   Jul-14-11 03:41 PM   #16 
     - I will be working as hard as I can to make that turnaround  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 03:51 PM   #18 
     - It's The Quiet Force Of 2012...  KharmaTrain   Jul-14-11 04:38 PM   #22 
        - I think it's eminently doable. Some of my DFL friends  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 06:30 PM   #32 
     - Elections do have consequences as does choosing not to vote.  elocs   Jul-14-11 04:12 PM   #19 
        - It Looks Like He Had Few Options...  KharmaTrain   Jul-14-11 04:33 PM   #21 
        - Success in the recall elections here will go a long way to set the stage for the Walker recall.  elocs   Jul-14-11 06:04 PM   #26 
        - If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice... eom  JuniperLea   Jul-14-11 06:02 PM   #25 
           - Certainly, and so you should be ready and willing to accept the consequences of that choice.  elocs   Jul-14-11 06:07 PM   #27 
              - I don't think there is anything noble about not voting...  JuniperLea   Jul-14-11 06:12 PM   #29 
                 - Me neither, but some "claim" not to vote because both parties are the same,  elocs   Jul-14-11 06:21 PM   #31 
     - You keep repeating that 'democrats sat on their hands to  sabrina 1   Jul-14-11 06:20 PM   #30 
        - Are you in Minnesota? Do you work in the party here?  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 06:47 PM   #33 
           - I have family in Minnesota. You are not in any position to tell me  sabrina 1   Jul-14-11 06:54 PM   #34 
              - And I have family in California. I'm no longer involved in  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 07:07 PM   #35 
                 - And I'll give, as I always do, your suggestions, all the consideration  sabrina 1   Jul-14-11 07:24 PM   #37 
  - "Dayton imposed three conditions for his acceptance."  mzmolly   Jul-14-11 03:04 PM   #5 
  - Not really. Not everything. It's not great, but there are some things.  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 03:06 PM   #6 
  - I'll go out on a limb and say the Republicans tell him to go pound sand.  neverforget   Jul-14-11 03:31 PM   #12 
     - Which is why I'm pretty sure this will be re-enacted at the Fed level  Doctor_J   Jul-14-11 03:34 PM   #13 
     - That is my fear as well.  Ragnarok   Jul-14-11 03:37 PM   #14 
     - Hard to say, really. The Republicans are getting it from their  MineralMan   Jul-14-11 03:41 PM   #15 
  - NYT: Gov agree to budget terms proposed by Republican lawmakers...but with several new conditions.  pampango   Jul-14-11 03:44 PM   #17 
  - I think he should've waited it out. When the beer totally ran  tnlefty   Jul-14-11 04:25 PM   #20 
  - It's like the Gilded Age all over again.  AverageJoe90   Jul-14-11 06:08 PM   #28 
  - Fortunately he is wrong  Bjorn Against   Jul-14-11 07:18 PM   #36 
  - Sounds like Obama on the Bush tax cuts  Doctor_J   Jul-15-11 09:09 AM   #41 
     - This is nothing like Obama's caves  Bjorn Against   Jul-15-11 05:35 PM   #43 
  - That State is a mess  Bluenorthwest   Jul-14-11 07:33 PM   #39 

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