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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:13 PM
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85. Yes. It's a religion with it's god being
"The Invisible Hand of the Marketplace". That's the ONLY thing that you can call it nowdays. It fits all the criteria.
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  -Why do some people think it is impossible to get rid of capitalism? white_wolf  Jul-13-11 10:28 PM   #0 
  - Mixed market economies won the 200 year war over what all our economies would look like. That is  applegrove   Jul-13-11 10:30 PM   #1 
  - Except capitalism here is a religion. It can do no wrong, even if it destroys everything else.  freshwest   Jul-13-11 11:10 PM   #17 
  - +1 -- succinctly put, as well. nt  MADem   Jul-13-11 11:15 PM   #20 
  - Mixed market economy has no real meaning.  Threedifferentones   Jul-15-11 06:06 AM   #71 
  - As long as the Bourgeoisie...  Duke Newcombe   Jul-13-11 10:31 PM   #2 
  - Because the next logical step is a post-scarcity society, and we don't have the means yet.  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 10:31 PM   #3 
  - There's, Uhm, This Thing Called GREED  ConnorMarc   Jul-13-11 10:32 PM   #4 
  - I'm sure most people thought medieval Europe was in too deep to ever get out of feudalism.  white_wolf   Jul-13-11 10:35 PM   #6 
     - Things Are Much Different Now  ConnorMarc   Jul-13-11 10:52 PM   #10 
     - Absolutely. Good post and accurate, too. n/t  Fire1   Jul-15-11 02:04 PM   #82 
     - There was this little thing called the Black Death  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-14-11 01:15 AM   #44 
     - Black Death preceded capitalism by a couple of centuries, generally... hard to link them methinks.  LooseWilly   Jul-15-11 03:46 AM   #69 
     - You keep throwing around feudalism. Methinks you really don't know  cali   Jul-15-11 06:22 AM   #72 
  - What would replace it?  Klietzlander   Jul-13-11 10:32 PM   #5 
  - Why does it need to be replaced?  leftstreet   Jul-13-11 10:47 PM   #9 
  - What if I...?  Klietzlander   Jul-13-11 10:55 PM   #11 
  - Why invent the widget? Because it feels good to invent  Fool Count   Jul-13-11 11:48 PM   #26 
     - Here is the problem...  Klietzlander   Jul-13-11 11:56 PM   #29 
  - Capitalism Is Actually Good  ConnorMarc   Jul-13-11 10:56 PM   #12 
     - Capitalism 'gone mad?' It STARTS that way  leftstreet   Jul-13-11 11:00 PM   #14 
     - No its not good.  white_wolf   Jul-13-11 11:02 PM   #15 
     - Capitalism is actually much older than the industrial  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-14-11 01:39 AM   #54 
     - The Concept Is Good  ConnorMarc   Jul-13-11 11:04 PM   #16 
  - "Feudalistic countries" like Cuba? - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Jul-14-11 01:12 AM   #42 
     - Lenin's claim that the countries on the periphery of the capitalist center...  JVS   Jul-15-11 03:10 AM   #68 
  - Ideology? Cultural hegemony?  Puregonzo1188   Jul-13-11 10:37 PM   #7 
  - is it certain that-...  Klietzlander   Jul-13-11 10:46 PM   #8 
  - Think of capitalism as descriptive, not proscriptive  Silent3   Jul-13-11 10:57 PM   #13 
  - History is taught by the capitalists, ww.  Starry Messenger   Jul-13-11 11:12 PM   #18 
  - It's not so much 'get rid of' or 'replace'  izquierdista   Jul-13-11 11:13 PM   #19 
  - My favorite comment in this thread so far!  inna   Jul-15-11 02:57 AM   #66 
  - There you go, latina lefty......  socialist_n_TN   Jul-15-11 01:54 PM   #78 
  - DESPITE BEING AGAINST THE RULES, SOME FOLKS KEEP DOING IT REGARDLESS  Kaleva   Jul-13-11 11:18 PM   #21 
  - Doing what?  socialist_n_TN   Jul-15-11 01:57 PM   #79 
  - Is the alternative Socialism?  Kablooie   Jul-13-11 11:24 PM   #22 
  - A problem with that model is-...  Klietzlander   Jul-13-11 11:26 PM   #23 
  - All wealth is derived from the intellectual body  Zanzoobar   Jul-13-11 11:40 PM   #25 
  - In many cases the quest for profits can stifle innovation.  white_wolf   Jul-13-11 11:50 PM   #27 
  - This is true of the free apple market, also.  Zanzoobar   Jul-13-11 11:53 PM   #28 
  - True, but companies like Apple use innovation as the foundation of their profit model.  Kablooie   Jul-14-11 01:35 AM   #51 
  - I'd like to hear Mao's thoughts on this.  Kablooie   Jul-14-11 01:38 AM   #53 
  - Ideas have zero marginal cost, they have no real value without arbitrary and artifical enforcement.  joshcryer   Jul-14-11 01:06 AM   #39 
  - Terribly misguided.  Zanzoobar   Jul-14-11 01:15 AM   #45 
     - Feel free to substantiate.  joshcryer   Jul-14-11 02:29 AM   #62 
  - Reasonable licence fees? For a limited length of time.......  socialist_n_TN   Jul-15-11 01:59 PM   #80 
  - No they won't sit back and watch the oligarchy dissolve.  white_wolf   Jul-13-11 11:33 PM   #24 
  - Talk about your shiny objects and distractions. nt  Maru Kitteh   Jul-13-11 11:59 PM   #30 
  - How is discussing a way to cure the root cause of economic problems a distraction?  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 12:03 AM   #31 
  - Mixed Economies. Capitalism+Socialism. or  OHdem10   Jul-14-11 12:24 AM   #32 
  - Every place people fantasize emigrating to....  Davis_X_Machina   Jul-14-11 12:35 AM   #33 
  - Killing off capitalism  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 12:37 AM   #34 
  - Capitalism has served its purpose.  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 12:49 AM   #35 
  - Marx was idealistic and delusional  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 12:59 AM   #36 
     - You do realize Orwell's Animal Farm was not an attacking on socialism itself  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 01:04 AM   #37 
     - Stalinism was socialism...  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 01:26 AM   #48 
        - Stalinism was not socialism.  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 01:32 AM   #50 
        - That's a valid distinction ...  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 01:39 AM   #55 
           - By the same token if capitalism is abused we get the system we see before us today.  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 01:42 AM   #57 
              - Agree 100%  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 01:54 AM   #60 
              - except...  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 02:05 AM   #61 
        - No son, it was STATISM  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-14-11 01:45 AM   #58 
     - Marx was delusional? Have you even bothered to read "Das Kapital"? Perhaps  coalition_unwilling   Jul-14-11 01:24 AM   #47 
     - A delusion ...  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 01:36 AM   #52 
        - I'm afraid you are the one who is delusional, both as regards  coalition_unwilling   Jul-15-11 02:09 AM   #63 
        - RE: your last sentence. So instead of a system that  socialist_n_TN   Jul-15-11 02:10 PM   #84 
     - Given that Marx did not advocate for pure socialism  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-14-11 01:40 AM   #56 
     - Now this is what I don't get. People who claim that  socialist_n_TN   Jul-15-11 02:05 PM   #83 
  - "the internet itself... the product of capitalism" — wrong.  LooseWilly   Jul-15-11 04:14 AM   #70 
  - Why do some people think it is impossible to get rid of statism?  joshcryer   Jul-14-11 01:05 AM   #38 
  - I actually don't think it is.  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 01:13 AM   #43 
  - Grammar Nazi (and Dem Socialist) here: the noun is  coalition_unwilling   Jul-14-11 01:09 AM   #40 
  - Dang too late to edit.  white_wolf   Jul-14-11 01:12 AM   #41 
  - Some people think it is impossible to get rid of capitalism because  coalition_unwilling   Jul-14-11 01:22 AM   #46 
  - Divinely ordained, maybe not.  Zanzoobar   Jul-14-11 01:31 AM   #49 
  - well said  Whiskeytide   Jul-14-11 01:53 AM   #59 
  - Yes. It's a religion with it's god being  socialist_n_TN   Jul-15-11 02:13 PM   #85 
  - Because they define it so broadly as to include all human enterprise...  saras   Jul-15-11 02:46 AM   #64 
  - Nothing lasts forever. Empires end. Everything ends  cali   Jul-15-11 02:51 AM   #65 
  - Agreed on "feudalism wasn't replaced by capitalism."  joshcryer   Jul-15-11 03:06 AM   #67 
  - Because of where the wealth is? Because weaponry of the wealthy is not Medieval? Because "working"  WinkyDink   Jul-15-11 06:26 AM   #73 
  - because it survived the biggest challenge its likely to face  Enrique   Jul-15-11 06:46 AM   #74 
  - Capitalism isn't good or bad, it just *is*.  reformist2   Jul-15-11 07:19 AM   #75 
  - All you have to do is cross the ocean and start a new country in the New World.  JoePhilly   Jul-15-11 07:23 AM   #76 
  - Because capitalism is the natural expression of how humans deal with one another  WatsonT   Jul-15-11 09:22 AM   #77 
  - I think the real problem is we need to quit putting Democracy,  Rex   Jul-15-11 01:59 PM   #81 
 

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