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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:29 PM
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111. People who make shit wages don't work hard????
People who make shit wages CANNOT save. Read "Nickle and Dimed" because you clearly need an education on what it means to be poor. You cannot save on Walmart wages and 1) keep a decent roof over your head, 2) save, and 3) pay for medical care. One of those things (at least) would have o give.

You are ignorant.
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  -"Anyone who worked hard can never be poor!" RadiationTherapy  Jul-13-11 10:06 AM   #0 
  - No you can work hard and save poorly.  dkf   Jul-13-11 10:07 AM   #1 
  - If you work very hard but don't make a living wage, there is no way to save.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-13-11 10:10 AM   #2 
  - Sorry, RKZ. The FACT is, if you are not wealthy - right fucking NOW - then you ain't working.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:11 AM   #5 
  - BZZZZZZZT! Ohhhh, I'm sorry...wrong answer.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:10 AM   #4 
  - SO glad I have that one on ignore n/t  Occulus   Jul-13-11 10:13 AM   #8 
  - You. Can't. Alert. On. Ignored. Posts.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:17 AM   #66 
     - I use ignore lite - partial ignore  canoeist52   Jul-13-11 12:21 PM   #94 
  - Hard to be honest and be rich  BeFree   Jul-13-11 10:20 AM   #12 
     - It's not a matter of being rich or being poor, but of being ok.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:13 AM   #63 
        - That's a religion, a rather nasty one  BeFree   Jul-13-11 11:20 AM   #70 
        - Well I guess since I'm an agnostic and can't rely on my faith in God I have to rely on other things.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:27 AM   #76 
           - W hooosh  BeFree   Jul-13-11 11:35 AM   #82 
              - Well what else is there to believe in?  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:44 AM   #85 
                 - Well  BeFree   Jul-13-11 11:54 AM   #87 
                    - Not really. If we did we wouldn't need government Programs.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:59 AM   #89 
                       - What a narrow vision you have  BeFree   Jul-13-11 12:09 PM   #92 
                          - I find many religious faiths corrupt.  dkf   Jul-13-11 06:54 PM   #102 
        - If you want households to increase their rate of savings..  girl gone mad   Jul-13-11 07:06 PM   #103 
  - Right. Because there's nobody out there working their ass off  bullwinkle428   Jul-13-11 10:12 AM   #6 
  - when people don't struggle like others do, they like to pretend they are special  fascisthunter   Jul-13-11 10:16 AM   #9 
  - Actually I was talking about my brother who makes six figures but who can't afford to pay me back.  dkf   Jul-13-11 10:27 AM   #19 
  - Perhaps he just doesn't want to pay you back.  Dept of Beer   Jul-13-11 10:49 AM   #40 
  - Better yet, always treat "loans" to friends or family as a gift.  hunter   Jul-13-11 11:09 AM   #59 
  - I believe everybody who's not an asshole acts like that. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:21 AM   #71 
  - He said it was for one day to fix a trading problem 15 years ago.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:40 AM   #83 
  - I'm happy when I can help my friends and family when they're in a bind,  smokey nj   Jul-14-11 06:37 PM   #118 
  - Three things I hope about this story:  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:27 AM   #77 
     - He can pay me back but says I don't need it because I would just invest it.  dkf   Jul-13-11 08:30 PM   #107 
  - Forget the personal anecdotes. Do you deny there are people who work hard, live frugally...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:20 AM   #69 
  - You attribute to vanity what may be just plain fear.  surrealAmerican   Jul-13-11 10:37 AM   #30 
  - That's a great point  fascisthunter   Jul-13-11 10:45 AM   #36 
  - Savings =. Security.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:25 AM   #75 
     - Even people who do save ...  surrealAmerican   Jul-13-11 01:01 PM   #97 
  - It's fear that makes people save.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:15 AM   #65 
  - "Vain materialsim" - totally nailed!! There's a guy that posts on another  bullwinkle428   Jul-13-11 11:21 AM   #72 
     - oh yeah... and he probably drives a hummer so he gets more noticed  fascisthunter   Jul-13-11 12:10 PM   #93 
  - Everyone has bought something that wasn't an "absolute necessity".  dkf   Jul-13-11 10:19 AM   #10 
     - Wealth is more of a coincidence than a characteristic.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:23 AM   #13 
     - Wealth yes, savings, no.  dkf   Jul-13-11 10:29 AM   #21 
        - Cool. So if I can put aside $100/week (I can't) that will be nearly $5200/year.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:32 AM   #25 
           - Are you putting nothing in for retirement?  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:08 AM   #58 
              - I just started putting some away. Not because I get paid enough, but because  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 11:41 AM   #84 
                 - I went to a state university to save on college.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:56 AM   #88 
                    - I am 37 years old and have never seen $30k in one year.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 03:49 PM   #101 
     - Do you ever do anything on DU but play "Conservative Conventional Wisdom-spewing  RandomKoolzip   Jul-13-11 10:23 AM   #14 
     - +1  Gold Metal Flake   Jul-13-11 10:55 AM   #48 
     - +1  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-13-11 10:59 AM   #54 
     - To me a true liberal wants to help the poor find ways to save money.  dkf   Jul-13-11 11:00 AM   #55 
     - Here's a bit of logic. If you are poor, by definition, you cannot save adequately.  jtown1123   Jul-13-11 11:10 AM   #60 
     - You guys are so defeatist.  dkf   Jul-13-11 08:11 PM   #106 
     - There's a good way to help the poor find ways to save money  LeftishBrit   Jul-13-11 11:29 AM   #78 
     - Precisely. +1  RandomKoolzip   Jul-13-11 11:31 AM   #79 
     - Then you should be fully in favor of more government spending.  girl gone mad   Jul-13-11 07:10 PM   #104 
     - That was, of course, a rhetorical question. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:14 AM   #64 
     - So, "everyone has foolish moments" translates to "let them suffer"?  bullwinkle428   Jul-13-11 11:17 AM   #67 
  - And if you are paid slave wages, then it's pretty well impossible to save.  LeftishBrit   Jul-13-11 10:19 AM   #11 
  - But if you work 3 jobs like that lady that Bush II was so proud of...  Dept of Beer   Jul-13-11 10:50 AM   #42 
  - You can also work hard and never have enough to save.  enlightenment   Jul-13-11 10:25 AM   #15 
  - You can also work hard, then get a life altering disease that throws you into bankruptcy. nt  Javaman   Jul-13-11 10:33 AM   #27 
  - My father, then two years later, my brother. Of my nuclear family, half have lost  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:38 AM   #31 
  - you also can put all your efforts into building a family and then be abandoned or divorced  grasswire   Jul-13-11 10:41 AM   #34 
     - Lots of rich men file for bankruptcy so wife can't get it in a divorce.  Manifestor_of_Light   Jul-14-11 01:40 AM   #112 
  - Do you agree with the republican mindset then?  Dept of Beer   Jul-13-11 10:48 AM   #38 
  - Redundant. The post you're replying to is essentially a ''yes'' answer to that question. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:11 AM   #61 
  - You are so precious.  Ikonoklast   Jul-13-11 11:11 AM   #62 
  - Or you can work hard and be paid poorly. Or you can work hard  Warpy   Jul-13-11 11:22 AM   #73 
  - You can lose your savings in a flash, even if you invested "wisely". I mean if one were to have  Erose999   Jul-13-11 12:07 PM   # 
  - People who make shit wages don't work hard????  alarimer   Jul-13-11 10:29 PM   #111 
  - I admire your consistency.  Forkboy   Jul-14-11 07:04 PM   #119 
  - I picture conservatives who think they will be rich someday ...  Bryn   Jul-13-11 10:10 AM   #3 
  - The comic reality is that for the horses that don't win it is off  Dept of Beer   Jul-13-11 10:51 AM   #44 
  - What really sucks is when you have nothing left to save  sunwyn   Jul-13-11 10:13 AM   #7 
  - whatever do you mean? i love watching that one lady... what is her name?!?!  ejpoeta   Jul-13-11 10:39 AM   #33 
     - my mom told me years ago that her father told her to save a nickel out of every dollar.  grasswire   Jul-13-11 10:44 AM   #35 
        - Cool. So get a job where you net $2000 per week, put away $100 every check.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:49 AM   #41 
        - it is a good idea to save money. my brother in law had lots of bonds or something he was given.  ejpoeta   Jul-13-11 10:55 AM   #49 
  - There are lots of people here who spout that too. n/t  Starry Messenger   Jul-13-11 10:26 AM   #16 
  - Well, I am done being quiet about it. Life is so complex that it takes a truly childish  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:27 AM   #18 
     - +1  Starry Messenger   Jul-13-11 10:29 AM   #22 
     - And vain. You think you're OK and will always be OK because you're morally superior.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-13-11 11:33 AM   #81 
  - or you could work hard, see the factory move to China, lose health insurance, and get sick  NightWatcher   Jul-13-11 10:26 AM   #17 
  - I don't know about that, now. I have a lot of conservative poor people telling me  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:30 AM   #23 
  - Or work, without benefits, in an unforgiving industry that values  Dept of Beer   Jul-13-11 10:54 AM   #46 
  - Seems that you are the only person ever to say that....  Nye Bevan   Jul-13-11 10:27 AM   #20 
  - Hm. That is interesting. Maybe I should work hard making bumperstickers!  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:33 AM   #26 
  - LOL! Priceless.  Ruby the Liberal   Jul-13-11 11:02 AM   #56 
  - Now even the middle class can be poor  Bragi   Jul-13-11 10:32 AM   #24 
  - Anyone who has ever worked for a living, who said/thought that...  Quantess   Jul-13-11 10:34 AM   #28 
  - "Anyone who doesn't work hard can never be rich"  kctim   Jul-13-11 10:35 AM   #29 
  - Paris Hilton.  Ikonoklast   Jul-13-11 12:46 PM   #96 
     - Yep  kctim   Jul-13-11 02:07 PM   #99 
  - washing dishes is very hard work at a busy diner ....  divvy   Jul-13-11 10:39 AM   #32 
  - My dad worked his tail off before he died 30 years ago. Then  kestrel91316   Jul-13-11 10:47 AM   #37 
  - I feel for you. My family has been devastated by illness and bills.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:52 AM   #45 
  - I sure as hell am NOT lazy nor are the folks in my family  fascisthunter   Jul-13-11 10:49 AM   #39 
  - It's beautiful. I don't mind. This country is close to knockin each others' teeth in.  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:51 AM   #43 
     - yeah... it will  fascisthunter   Jul-13-11 10:56 AM   #52 
  - The secret to being rich is to  Newest Reality   Jul-13-11 10:54 AM   #47 
  - That's brilliant. It is like the opposite of the Knight's Templar! ahahaha  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:55 AM   #50 
  - or you can write a book about how to be rich and convince people to buy it for  ejpoeta   Jul-13-11 10:57 AM   #53 
  - It really is that simple!  B Calm   Jul-13-11 02:15 PM   #100 
  - Depends on what one considers "poor" to mean.  Urban Prairie   Jul-13-11 10:55 AM   #51 
  - I'd like to introduce them to the teachers of bay area schools  Taverner   Jul-13-11 11:04 AM   #57 
  - If hard work were the only factor  guitar man   Jul-13-11 11:20 AM   #68 
  - cell phones and ipods....  Quantess   Jul-13-11 11:24 AM   #74 
  - Oh, I am aware. But according to the conservative Theory of Poverty Relativity  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 11:46 AM   #86 
  - My grandaddy worked from before sunup to after sundown his whole life...  Dappleganger   Jul-13-11 11:32 AM   #80 
  - this story makes me really sad  grasswire   Jul-14-11 12:05 PM   #114 
     - They were poor sharecroppers and mormon...  Dappleganger   Jul-14-11 06:05 PM   #115 
  - Well, I've had 6 different places where I worked close  EC   Jul-13-11 12:02 PM   #90 
  - The hardest jobs are often the most poorly paid  librechik   Jul-13-11 12:07 PM   #91 
  - One of my favorites:  Kermitt Gribble   Jul-13-11 12:22 PM   #95 
  - Oh yeah? Try getting busted for growing cannabis and giving it away.  Fly by night   Jul-13-11 01:17 PM   #98 
  - Work? Poor? Mahatma Gandhi. end of discussion  saras   Jul-13-11 07:16 PM   #105 
  - Parody death metal! It's so funny, but it makes so much sense!  RadiationTherapy   Jul-13-11 10:21 PM   #109 
  - One of the historic whoppers. I bet bullshit no goods that spout that shit  TheKentuckian   Jul-13-11 09:36 PM   #108 
  - Whats poor/ whats rich? These terms mean different things  Philippine expat   Jul-13-11 10:26 PM   #110 
  - "I never got a job from a poor person, so rich people create jobs" is pretty stupid  EstimatedProphet   Jul-14-11 12:03 PM   #113 
  - I actually have never worked harder  quaker bill   Jul-14-11 06:23 PM   #116 
  - I should be a Billionaire by now  Politicalboi   Jul-14-11 06:30 PM   #117 

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