SheilaT
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Sun Jul-10-11 07:17 PM
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| 7. The original book was definitely NOT satire, |
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but Heinlein's glorification of war. He took great pride in being a graduate of the Naval Academy, but of course never served in wartime.
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman was essentially written to show that war truly is hell, not the glory that Heinlein thought it was.
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| -6 Mind Blowing Ways 'Starship Troopers' Predicted the Future |
Ian David |
Jul-10-11 06:42 PM |
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Paul Verhoeven as a time traveler? Nah... |
demwing |
Jul-10-11 07:03 PM |
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I've always suspected the republicans have used that movie as their template. |
Initech |
Jul-10-11 07:03 PM |
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Dick Cheney may have used Babylon 5 as a template. |
Ian David |
Jul-10-11 07:06 PM |
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;) |
Babel_17 |
Jul-10-11 08:14 PM |
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But the movie version was most likely purely |
SeattleVet |
Jul-10-11 07:07 PM |
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Very loosely based. |
Dept of Beer |
Jul-10-11 07:22 PM |
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I disagree. The book was typical Heinlein propagandistic tripe. |
Tesha |
Jul-11-11 05:17 PM |
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"Mobile Infantry ... made me the man I am today!" |
Kolesar |
Jul-10-11 07:09 PM |
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"Bugs Mr. Rico" |
Sherman A1 |
Jul-10-11 07:17 PM |
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The original book was definitely NOT satire, |
SheilaT |
Jul-10-11 07:17 PM |
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Not so much the glory of war, as the glory of an idealised military. |
TheMadMonk |
Jul-10-11 07:29 PM |
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I think the bloom came off the rose of The Forever War |
exboyfil |
Jul-10-11 08:18 PM |
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Heinlein graduated from Annapolis in 1929. We weren't at war at that time. He served honorably ... |
11 Bravo |
Jul-11-11 08:15 AM |
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Heinlein simply reminds me of |
SheilaT |
Jul-12-11 12:43 AM |
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We reading the same Heinlein? |
TheWraith |
Jul-12-11 01:46 AM |
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Heinlein supports |
SheilaT |
Jul-12-11 02:40 PM |
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You seem to be tossing out random assertions, without addressing my specific points. |
TheWraith |
Jul-12-11 10:50 PM |
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I know he died long before the Tea Party came about, |
SheilaT |
Jul-13-11 11:22 AM |
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I'm not so sure... |
Occulus |
Jul-11-11 08:33 AM |
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I suspect you misread it then |
WatsonT |
Jul-11-11 09:54 AM |
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Heinlein made it quite clear |
MicaelS |
Jul-11-11 11:23 AM |
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Funny I never took that as glorification of war |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-11-11 11:17 PM |
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I am still convinced that the greatest enemy mankind will ever face is giant bugs. /nt |
Drale |
Jul-10-11 07:29 PM |
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Or bears. n/t |
Ian David |
Jul-10-11 07:39 PM |
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OMG I forgot about bears |
Drale |
Jul-10-11 07:40 PM |
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Especially the "bitchy" ones. nt |
Maru Kitteh |
Jul-10-11 07:42 PM |
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Or Bugbears! |
Ready4Change |
Jul-11-11 11:04 AM |
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Fuckin' bugbears... |
Ian David |
Jul-11-11 04:10 PM |
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Old school. |
Ready4Change |
Jul-11-11 11:15 PM |
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The small ones are bad enough |
WatsonT |
Jul-11-11 09:55 AM |
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Republicans (which are a lot like bugs, or at least blood-sucking ticks) (NT) |
Tesha |
Jul-11-11 05:25 PM |
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I saw the film as a satirical take on the all too jingo book |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-10-11 07:31 PM |
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That's how I saw it too n/t |
Prophet 451 |
Jul-11-11 04:59 AM |
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vastly different from the book. |
provis99 |
Jul-10-11 07:40 PM |
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Or maybe the movie WAS pro war |
ThoughtCriminal |
Jul-10-11 08:41 PM |
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The book wasn't remotely a satire |
Recursion |
Jul-10-11 08:35 PM |
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6 Mind-Blowing Ways |
On the Road |
Jul-10-11 09:01 PM |
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I am still waiting for the co-ed showers! HAHA! nt |
kelly1mm |
Jul-11-11 02:07 AM |
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It seems like most military sci-fi now has co-ed showers and quarters. |
Ian David |
Jul-11-11 06:49 AM |
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Well, to be fair, |
Occulus |
Jul-11-11 08:35 AM |
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On Battlestar, the campy original did not have co-ed facilities but you |
kelly1mm |
Jul-11-11 10:18 AM |
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+1000 |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-11-11 08:49 AM |
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The director admitted he didn't even read the book |
WatsonT |
Jul-11-11 09:55 AM |
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it's a strange movie |
BOG PERSON |
Jul-11-11 10:17 AM |
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A lot of people hated the movie, but I liked it..... |
marmar |
Jul-11-11 10:19 AM |
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I liked both the book and the movie. |
Ready4Change |
Jul-11-11 10:58 AM |
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me 2 |
Snoutport |
Jul-12-11 01:18 AM |
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The book was amazing. the movie was pure ass. |
Javaman |
Jul-11-11 10:31 AM |
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Great Book, Shitty Movie |
AnnieBW |
Jul-11-11 09:42 PM |
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Read the book |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jul-11-11 11:16 PM |
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Read the Cracked link in the OP, and see that the article and headline is about the movie. ;) nt |
greyl |
Jul-12-11 02:21 AM |
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