DevonRex
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Sat Jul-09-11 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #39 |
| -BREAKING: Progressive Causus DEFENDS OBAMA, Cutting COST is NOT ...NOT the same as cutting BENEFITS |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:06 PM |
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People would rather chase the wild goose apparently. |
Palmer Eldritch |
Jul-09-11 12:07 PM |
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Obama has had it. |
tcaudilllg |
Jul-09-11 12:23 PM |
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That's a joke, right? nt |
TheWraith |
Jul-09-11 12:28 PM |
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It's the perfect time for progressives and indies to draft a people's candidate... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:33 PM |
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Will you support Obama when he is the nominee? |
Palmer Eldritch |
Jul-09-11 12:36 PM |
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The nominee of which party? |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:37 PM |
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The Nominee of the Party he currently heads... the Democratic Party |
Palmer Eldritch |
Jul-09-11 12:44 PM |
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imo he's a better fit in the Republican Party... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:00 PM |
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You guys are trying hard but failing miserably k? |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:48 PM |
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I love how threatened you are. LOL |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:01 PM |
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Al Gore isn't even on the draft Al Gore effort. Good luck with all that! |
Palmer Eldritch |
Jul-09-11 12:35 PM |
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They have also said they would NOT vote to reduce benefits, even if the prez went there... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:08 PM |
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"there are ways to restructure entitlement spending to save money without hurting beneficiaries" |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-11 12:11 PM |
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Yeap, even when faced with direct quotes the bashers usually move goal or strawman with their wild |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:13 PM |
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Sure, but nobody knows exactly what the prez will agree to... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:14 PM |
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That's not a good reason to misrepresent his position on cost containmnt for SS |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:15 PM |
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It's posters like YOU who are misrepresenting his position... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:16 PM |
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WTF?!! He hasn't said he'd take a shit in the morning either, come on this is getting serieal |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:17 PM |
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Hopefully, you're not really as dense as you pretend to be... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:19 PM |
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Whatever, Obama's position has been stated and its clear...I'll believe him on this his track record |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:20 PM |
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LOL - his track record is give up everything before negotiations begin. |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:21 PM |
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Obama promise meter and his approval ratings amongst dems liberals says you're wron |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:21 PM |
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Can't argue his negotiation track record huh? |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:22 PM |
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Yes, with promises he's kept |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:47 PM |
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I said negotiations. |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:10 PM |
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You shut that down in a hurry |
Aerows |
Jul-09-11 01:22 PM |
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Maybe that's how he's been able to fool so many for so long - all those... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:26 PM |
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And yet, they will continue to do so |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 12:20 PM |
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Unless you have your ulterior motives to do so. eom |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 01:20 PM |
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fair enough, But note the WH has been pushing raising taxes/closing loopholes + th kind of reforms |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-11 12:18 PM |
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Haven't you noticed yet - Obama's rhetoric often doesn't match his actions... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:20 PM |
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Obama promise meter and his approval ratings amongst dems liberals says you're wron |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:21 PM |
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It doesn't matter to the staunch Obama-haters. He makes a single mistake |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 12:24 PM |
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I like Obama - I've met him; he's a nice guy... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:28 PM |
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FDR had an 83% dem congress |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:48 PM |
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enough Dems in Congress are closet Republicans that they have a working majority |
yurbud |
Jul-09-11 12:55 PM |
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Yep - Democratic voters have been conned for years. |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:04 PM |
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you're bumper sticker has it right--we need to root out the corporate whores in the Dem party |
yurbud |
Jul-09-11 01:08 PM |
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Agreed. It'll take an electorate that is willing to do its homework... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:13 PM |
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Exactly. Some people forget that we have three CO-EQUAL branches of government |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 01:05 PM |
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So what. This president refuses to use all the tools at his disposal... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:09 PM |
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lol |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 01:20 PM |
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How about the third option? That he understands he's not a dictator |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 01:11 PM |
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You obviously believe he's really on the side of the people... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:14 PM |
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You obviously believe he's the devil incarnate no matter the evidence |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 01:29 PM |
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You're pretty funny. He's a nice guy but he's not with the people on the big issues... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:36 PM |
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And to think |
Aerows |
Jul-09-11 01:26 PM |
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I've missed it. Sorry. eom |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 01:32 PM |
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The political situation is a lot different now than it was post 2010 election |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-11 12:45 PM |
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The president is the one with the bully pulpit and the people are not with the Republicans... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:06 PM |
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What friggin bully pulpit?? Corporate media?? Get real. |
BlueCaliDem |
Jul-09-11 01:18 PM |
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I promise you that if this president said he was standing with the people... |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 01:22 PM |
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overhead cost containment - such as Healthcare Reform |
FreakinDJ |
Jul-09-11 12:16 PM |
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They may not propose but they'll vote for it. |
blindpig |
Jul-09-11 12:25 PM |
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posted already |
Enrique |
Jul-09-11 12:09 PM |
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Wash rinse repeat to negate bashers with facts no? |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:11 PM |
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This poster is desperately spamming. |
polichick |
Jul-09-11 12:15 PM |
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Jane Hamsher already brought that up in her piece "Breaking Point". |
mmonk |
Jul-09-11 12:09 PM |
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They were never FOR Obama to begin with. |
lamp_shade |
Jul-09-11 12:09 PM |
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You assume too much. |
dbonds |
Jul-09-11 12:21 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-09-11 12:10 PM |
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Don't waste your time. DU is anti-Obama and anti-Dem. Period. |
DevonRex |
Jul-09-11 12:10 PM |
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DU is a forum where people express their views. Are you against that? /nt |
still_one |
Jul-09-11 12:19 PM |
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If their expressed by telling damn lies and half truths then yes I am against that |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:21 PM |
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Speaking of facts and lies, this is not "breaking" in any way |
EFerrari |
Jul-09-11 12:24 PM |
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To the consumate bashing it is "breaking"...breaks their damn lies |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:50 PM |
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I'm for DU being a haven for Democrats, as it was when I joined. |
DevonRex |
Jul-09-11 12:32 PM |
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This is a progressive forum. /nt |
still_one |
Jul-09-11 12:34 PM |
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+1...nt |
SidDithers |
Jul-09-11 12:45 PM |
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You are anti-Dem. Leave our hallowed party. |
tcaudilllg |
Jul-09-11 12:24 PM |
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Hahaha. |
DevonRex |
Jul-09-11 12:35 PM |
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So how would you cut Social Security costs without cutting benefits?...n/t |
PoliticAverse |
Jul-09-11 12:15 PM |
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Easy, allow for them to negotiate for medicinals just like the VA...come on, he's said this a millon |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:16 PM |
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That's medicare. I'm asking about Social Security. |
PoliticAverse |
Jul-09-11 12:17 PM |
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Raise the income cut off, lower admin cost....just a few off the top of my head |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:19 PM |
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Raising the income cutoff is a cut, and admin costs are less than 1% already. |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-09-11 12:28 PM |
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How would raising the cutoff for wealthy americans involve the blood ow |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-11 12:49 PM |
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Yeap, the bashers are going crazy now...they're not even tryin to make sense |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:51 PM |
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Raising the income cap is about increasing revenue not cutting costs... |
PoliticAverse |
Jul-09-11 12:28 PM |
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So you cut Social Security costs by cutting back on services? |
Better Believe It |
Jul-09-11 12:39 PM |
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That's a non-sequiter. Doesn't follow from what the poster said |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-11 12:50 PM |
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Remember 2009 - The White House cut a deal with Big Pharma that smells like the same old rotten |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-11 12:25 PM |
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I think the article says that current beneficiaries would not be affected. |
Kaleva |
Jul-09-11 12:43 PM |
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At what point does a smaller SS cheque = hurt |
whosinpower |
Jul-09-11 12:15 PM |
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WHAT?!?! I lowered my care insurance COST and got MORE coverage, it can be done... |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:17 PM |
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Car insurance is handled by private corporations. |
Ozymanithrax |
Jul-09-11 12:45 PM |
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if they raised or removed the cap on income taxed (not percent of tax) they could solve all |
yurbud |
Jul-09-11 12:57 PM |
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The Un-Rec police are out in force I see |
FreakinDJ |
Jul-09-11 12:19 PM |
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Probably has something to do with sentence in the OP and also the fact that the article ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-11 12:28 PM |
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One of the best ways for SS to save money is by stopping this nonsense of making it |
mrcheerful |
Jul-09-11 12:22 PM |
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No, but "adjusting" COLA payments is cutting benefits, |
MadHound |
Jul-09-11 12:24 PM |
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Agreed! |
Liberalynn |
Jul-09-11 12:47 PM |
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Link and quote, I don't believe anti Obama rhetoric from people on this board anymore |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 12:49 PM |
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Except Pelosi said it is not going to happen. Stories here yesterday |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-11 12:55 PM |
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That's different than what CBS was reporting |
Liberalynn |
Jul-09-11 01:08 PM |
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I would like a quote from here, our M$M is untrustworthy |
uponit7771 |
Jul-09-11 01:21 PM |
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From FireDog Lake |
Liberalynn |
Jul-09-11 01:47 PM |
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Read what you posted... |
PoliticAverse |
Jul-09-11 01:16 PM |
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Are they against "cutting or "slashing" |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-09-11 12:25 PM |
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Jul-09-11 12:34 PM |
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Sorry, facts presented go against the agreed-upon narrative... |
SidDithers |
Jul-09-11 12:34 PM |
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Grijalva's view on all this seems mixed to me |
suffragette |
Jul-09-11 12:49 PM |
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Democratic reps calling them entitlements, we are all screwed. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-09-11 01:16 PM |
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Locking |
cbayer |
Jul-09-11 01:49 PM |
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