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Fri Jul-08-11 08:57 PM
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I think you are VASTLY underestimating the degree of disappointment among the left. And CA and NY are not bastions of conservadems. He could well lose those states - particularly if he fucks with SS and medicare.
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trumad |
Jul-08-11 08:43 AM |
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ahem. One minor point of contention. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Jul-08-11 08:44 AM |
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Exactly - touch SS, Medicare, or Medicaid and you can fuck off and die. |
kath |
Jul-08-11 07:56 PM |
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Jul-08-11 10:30 PM |
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" 'cause your friends don't dance... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jul-08-11 11:34 PM |
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This, times 10^32 power. n/t |
Duke Newcombe |
Jul-09-11 02:41 AM |
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"All your Base are belong to us." - Them, Inc. |
SpiralHawk |
Jul-08-11 08:47 AM |
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Them, Inc. |
CrispyQ |
Jul-08-11 08:50 AM |
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Progressives didn't get Obama elected. It was swing voters in key swing states. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 08:51 AM |
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They don't give a fat rat's @ss what the base thinks anyway. |
Bake |
Jul-08-11 08:54 AM |
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Well my point is, Obama's base is actually center-right moderates. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 08:59 AM |
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I really don't see a lot of Center-right moderate forums on the nets. |
trumad |
Jul-08-11 09:01 AM |
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Those voters don't really identify with any particular label although they may call themselves "Ind |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:01 AM |
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Do you think those 'Independents' are on board with cutting Social Security and Medicare? |
LongTomH |
Jul-08-11 06:01 PM |
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Speaking as a Independent , I'm not on board... |
rainlillie |
Jul-09-11 02:05 AM |
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BILL FUCKING NAZI O'REILLY? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 08:44 PM |
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Another name for |
xxqqqzme |
Jul-09-11 03:54 AM |
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Disagree. I'm a pretty well informed Independent. The Democratic Party is too far right for me. |
Scuba |
Jul-09-11 06:29 AM |
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I'm with you |
ThomThom |
Jul-09-11 06:41 AM |
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maybe you're technically "I".... |
tomp |
Jul-09-11 06:59 AM |
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Agreed. The media, at the behest of their right-wing masters.... |
Scuba |
Jul-09-11 07:21 AM |
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Bernie Sanders? |
FlaGranny |
Jul-09-11 08:47 AM |
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Exactly! I'm a liberal Independent. |
rainlillie |
Jul-09-11 02:02 PM |
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Bernie is a great example. Thanks. |
Scuba |
Jul-09-11 06:32 PM |
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You know what they say about folks who assume.. |
rainlillie |
Jul-09-11 02:01 PM |
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That is hilarious. Yet again, claiming he can win without votes |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-11 09:05 AM |
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If you're referring to me, I didn't claim he can win without votes. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 09:57 AM |
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"Center-right moderates" aren't ANYONE'S base. |
PassingFair |
Jul-08-11 10:21 AM |
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He spits on the left, he hires corporate CEO's for advisors, he compromises |
rhett o rick |
Jul-08-11 11:36 PM |
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Really? |
tavalon |
Jul-08-11 05:14 PM |
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I'm in a swing state. You're not. |
Creideiki |
Jul-08-11 07:21 PM |
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Touch SS, and you will definitely see him lose blue states. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 08:43 PM |
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Just the suggestion. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:12 AM |
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That is ridiculous. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:04 AM |
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"Center right moderates" are known by another name... |
Hand_With_Eyes |
Jul-09-11 11:41 AM |
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Half a loaf would actually be an improvement... |
Duke Newcombe |
Jul-09-11 02:43 AM |
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Disagree a bit... |
trumad |
Jul-08-11 08:56 AM |
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If the tone changed, it's not because progressives yelled... It's because those center-right moder8s |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 09:00 AM |
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Center right moderates don't yell. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 08:46 PM |
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And polls show moderates do not want SS touched. nt |
Mojorabbit |
Jul-08-11 09:06 AM |
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That could be true! I have no idea. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:09 AM |
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Also GOp and Tea Party don't want cuts either. |
jtown1123 |
Jul-08-11 10:10 AM |
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But they don't ever seem to consider disaffected Dems in their |
alsame |
Jul-08-11 09:16 AM |
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Well that's precisely the problem in the swing states. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:10 AM |
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If we let the right take over at lest then it will be obvious |
ThomThom |
Jul-09-11 06:56 AM |
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You're absolutely right. But I don't see that happening - more and |
alsame |
Jul-09-11 07:35 AM |
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Not in VA. The difference between the '08 Demo sweep and the '10 disaster were low-income minority |
leveymg |
Jul-08-11 09:39 AM |
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Call them what you want, if they stay home in VA, then VA will turn red. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:12 AM |
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You need to reconsider your statement at the top of this thread. It's factually incorrect. |
leveymg |
Jul-08-11 10:21 AM |
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Call them liberal if you want. If they stay home, VA will vote republican. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:50 AM |
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Virginia IS Red. |
21st Century FDR |
Jul-08-11 05:00 PM |
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At this rate, '12 is going to be a disaster for Dems!! |
1stBunny |
Jul-08-11 08:31 PM |
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Your one of the few who has a clue. |
Scruffy1 |
Jul-08-11 09:45 PM |
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My heart was ripped out when |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:24 AM |
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We ALL got him elected. He can't do it without US any more than he can |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-08-11 10:14 AM |
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If you are referring to the door-knockers and the people in the phone banks and the obama parties... |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:51 AM |
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Jul-08-11 07:43 PM |
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You are wrong. |
Melissa G |
Jul-08-11 09:16 PM |
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The door-knockers I know say they aren't knocking this time. |
OnionPatch |
Jul-08-11 10:58 PM |
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They are. |
JTFrog |
Jul-09-11 07:44 AM |
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There would have been no candidate Obama to vote for in the general if |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jul-08-11 10:19 AM |
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If you are referring to the door-knockers and the people in the phone banks and the obama parties... |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 10:53 AM |
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What I'm saying is very simple. The idealists and liberals (some of whom are dismissed as fringe) |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jul-08-11 11:06 AM |
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That's probably very true. But in case you hadn't noticed, Obama doesn't need them anymore. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 12:56 PM |
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Oh OK I think I get what you're trying to say now. He found a "prettier girlfriend". nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Jul-08-11 01:13 PM |
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hell hath no fury....well,you know. nt |
tomp |
Jul-09-11 07:04 AM |
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They have the money - but we still have the votes. Those votes |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 08:53 PM |
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Too late.......nt |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:26 AM |
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Jul-08-11 08:52 PM |
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No. |
shimmergal |
Jul-09-11 07:20 AM |
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You are right. We can take them for granted. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jul-08-11 09:39 PM |
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I do not agree. |
lovelyrita |
Jul-09-11 05:53 AM |
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"Those swing voters are moderate conservatives" |
_ed_ |
Jul-08-11 10:59 AM |
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Back during the 2008 election season there was much discussion and analysis of the voters in |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 04:53 PM |
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I think you may be whistling past the graveyard. |
LiberalAndProud |
Jul-08-11 11:28 AM |
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I'm not suggesting that it would. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-08-11 04:55 PM |
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Don't bet on it. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 08:57 PM |
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I am betting on it. |
JTFrog |
Jul-09-11 08:22 AM |
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As JTfrog pointed out, I don't believe the reliably blue states have any more a chance of turning |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jul-09-11 08:38 AM |
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Progressives went door to door getting people to vote. Yes progressives did get Obama elected. |
robinlynne |
Jul-08-11 05:57 PM |
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Well, what you are saying is that they don't need the base then. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-08-11 06:00 PM |
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well then let swing voters in key swing states elect him this time.. |
frylock |
Jul-08-11 06:52 PM |
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So, how much help are the moderates going to be |
MsPithy |
Jul-08-11 08:37 PM |
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You are correct sir! |
Phaedrus76 |
Jul-08-11 10:34 PM |
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And there is NO WAY IN HELL "moderates" (god how I hate lukewarm ppl) |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jul-08-11 08:38 PM |
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Bullshit. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 08:42 PM |
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Explain 2010? |
shimmergal |
Jul-09-11 07:46 AM |
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Maybe, but |
SusanaMontana41 |
Jul-08-11 09:32 PM |
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His base stays home and he loses OH, PA, WI, VA and FL. |
harun |
Jul-08-11 10:12 PM |
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Jul-08-11 10:28 PM |
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Yeah, it may have been the moderates that help elect Obama, but guess who were manning the phones |
rhett o rick |
Jul-08-11 11:28 PM |
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I heard about polls this afrternoon on KPFK stating that |
JDPriestly |
Jul-09-11 12:03 AM |
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If they actually wanted |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:37 AM |
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+ 100 |
JDPriestly |
Jul-10-11 03:11 AM |
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+100 |
JDPriestly |
Jul-10-11 03:46 AM |
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I wouldn't count on that - the hanging out here part I mean. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-09-11 06:51 AM |
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Okay, let's see those "moderate conservative" swing voters get Obama elected |
Raksha |
Jul-09-11 07:49 PM |
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Jul-08-11 08:51 AM |
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.... |
smokey nj |
Jul-08-11 08:55 AM |
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!!! -nt |
CrispyQ |
Jul-08-11 08:56 AM |
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. |
myrna minx |
Jul-08-11 09:00 AM |
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I actually LOL at that. :) nt |
Mojorabbit |
Jul-08-11 09:08 AM |
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OK - I chuckled. |
Tatiana |
Jul-08-11 09:24 AM |
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Carney is well named, seeing as he is a sideshow barker |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-08-11 08:59 AM |
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Here, for those in the White House |
ellie |
Jul-08-11 09:17 AM |
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Message for ALL elected Dems: RAISE TAXES ON THE RICH AND END THE WARS. |
kestrel91316 |
Jul-08-11 10:17 AM |
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It really is that simple |
21st Century FDR |
Jul-08-11 05:13 PM |
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They already know this. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:44 AM |
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I just hope this admin is as clever as it thinks it is |
SolidBold |
Jul-08-11 09:23 AM |
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Yeah, because it sure hasn't been bumpy so far! |
tavalon |
Jul-08-11 05:20 PM |
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K&R |
closeupready |
Jul-08-11 09:59 AM |
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Past. The WH doesn't monitor DU. |
DevonRex |
Jul-08-11 10:13 AM |
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I think you may be right. |
tavalon |
Jul-08-11 05:22 PM |
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Jul-08-11 09:14 PM |
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*snort* |
DevonRex |
Jul-09-11 11:32 AM |
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Amen! Anyone who think that posting here is influencing the WH |
treestar |
Jul-09-11 09:03 AM |
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Heh heh... |
DevonRex |
Jul-09-11 11:35 AM |
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You know...you and the other douchebags up above |
trumad |
Jul-09-11 05:12 PM |
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If they do that |
treestar |
Jul-10-11 08:55 AM |
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K & R....even Republicans got this message. |
PassingFair |
Jul-08-11 10:16 AM |
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lol, k&r |
meow mix |
Jul-08-11 10:23 AM |
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Scary...I'm reccing TWO of your posts, trumad! knr |
joeybee12 |
Jul-08-11 10:23 AM |
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LOL |
trumad |
Jul-08-11 11:10 AM |
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Huge K&R! |
Auggie |
Jul-08-11 10:40 AM |
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thank you, this is a healthy way to express displeasure and I think |
cry baby |
Jul-08-11 11:16 AM |
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K&R |
JonLP24 |
Jul-08-11 01:45 PM |
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Why thank you Jon |
trumad |
Jul-08-11 03:04 PM |
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Great post |
MouseFitzgerald |
Jul-08-11 05:18 PM |
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Hey TRUMAD....WAY TO GO! |
KoKo |
Jul-08-11 05:22 PM |
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Hey look at the bottom! |
Rex |
Jul-08-11 05:23 PM |
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How did you know? |
rucky |
Jul-08-11 05:33 PM |
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i don't think lower to middle class republicans |
DesertFlower |
Jul-08-11 05:49 PM |
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They're too stupid to even know what that means. |
RagAss |
Jul-08-11 08:45 PM |
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good point. nt |
DesertFlower |
Jul-09-11 12:52 AM |
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I heard Thom Hartmann say today that tax increases for rich are OFF the table. |
Dont call me Shirley |
Jul-08-11 05:51 PM |
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Hartman was really worked up that Dems weren't going after Bush for his Deficit Ceiling Increases |
KoKo |
Jul-08-11 07:19 PM |
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Thom is a treasure. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:52 AM |
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It would political suicide to attack SS/Medicare. Exactly why the CONS want it done! n/t |
axollot |
Jul-08-11 05:53 PM |
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Exactly. If it happens on Omaba's watch - no matter WHO is behind it - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 09:01 PM |
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The Obama Administration was behind it. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 05:55 AM |
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K&R |
pa28 |
Jul-08-11 06:01 PM |
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napalmed ? more like Nuked |
FreakinDJ |
Jul-08-11 06:45 PM |
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They don't care |
TomClash |
Jul-08-11 07:46 PM |
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President Obama is not a poker player, unless he is playing |
dotymed |
Jul-08-11 08:11 PM |
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I wonder if he EVER won a hand when he played poker with |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jul-08-11 09:03 PM |
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this makes so much Sense! |
democracy1st |
Jul-08-11 08:11 PM |
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There's only one road to prosperity.... |
krispos42 |
Jul-08-11 08:19 PM |
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K&R, although you might have to explain to interns what napalm is. nt |
gateley |
Jul-08-11 09:21 PM |
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Actually, DU is no longer representative. |
johnaries |
Jul-08-11 09:38 PM |
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Have you seen the national polls? |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 06:00 AM |
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Good post |
trumad |
Jul-10-11 06:28 AM |
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+1 n/t |
JTFrog |
Jul-09-11 08:37 AM |
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What a bizarre post |
Doctor_J |
Jul-08-11 09:38 PM |
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k&r |
greendog |
Jul-08-11 10:40 PM |
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you think the White House monitors this board? |
TK421 |
Jul-08-11 11:31 PM |
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of course they monitor this board. Jeez. |
provis99 |
Jul-09-11 12:31 AM |
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The issue is placing such an amount of importance on a message board |
TK421 |
Jul-09-11 04:00 PM |
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What independent, verifiable info... |
Duke Newcombe |
Jul-09-11 03:01 AM |
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haha....that was a good one! |
TK421 |
Jul-09-11 04:01 PM |
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They don't monitor this board and they could care less what anyone on this board says. |
totodeinhere |
Jul-09-11 07:10 AM |
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I agree..can you imagine anyone from the White House looking at all the circumcision threads here? |
TK421 |
Jul-09-11 03:57 PM |
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How do you know? |
trumad |
Jul-09-11 05:15 PM |
#164 |
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You are way off. The left may have gotten Obama elected, but they are not his "base". |
rhett o rick |
Jul-08-11 11:33 PM |
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Yeah, but the people |
shimmergal |
Jul-09-11 07:42 AM |
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What makes you think we are monitored by the White House, and not the J. Edgar Hoover building? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jul-09-11 02:41 AM |
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The WH is NOT listening. We are NOT the "New Dem" Base -- |
blkmusclmachine |
Jul-09-11 04:20 AM |
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Pssst--they aren't actually going to read this. Or take it seriously. |
BlueIris |
Jul-09-11 04:47 AM |
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It ain't no trial balloon. |
Enthusiast |
Jul-09-11 04:56 AM |
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Change Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid |
WVRICK13 |
Jul-09-11 06:53 AM |
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K&R |
GreydeeThos |
Jul-09-11 07:03 AM |
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We are nothing more to Obama than the Fundies |
sellitman |
Jul-09-11 07:05 AM |
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From Philip Berrigan: |
tomp |
Jul-09-11 07:08 AM |
#142 |
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No one at the White House cares about this place and you're foolish to think otherwise. |
Arkana |
Jul-09-11 07:20 PM |
#166 |
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I've read about 4 or 5 posts like this in this thread |
trumad |
Jul-10-11 06:24 AM |
#170 |
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