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Thu Jul-07-11 07:18 PM
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| 40. You are claiming that this president has never |
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tied SS to the deficit. You are attempting to do so by playing word games, and that old, old tactic of 'demanding proof'.
The simplist and shortest way to resolve the issue is for you to post a clear statement, such as the ones made by Sen. Sanders, that there is simply no connection between SS and the Deficit. Trying to distract from the fact that no such statement appears to exist, is what I call 'pretending'.
I am not desperate at all and am more than willing to discuss any topic with anyone, rationally. You appear to be upset when someone pushes an issue that has not been resolved. IF this president has been as clear as Sen. Sanders on SS and the deficit, somewhere, I will be more than happy to applaud him for it.
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| -Obama Faces Heat From The Left Over Social Security - LATimes |
WillyT |
Jul-07-11 04:33 PM |
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Sanders rocks. Too bad he isn't POTUS. |
N7Shepard |
Jul-07-11 04:34 PM |
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Sanders is taking a survey....go to his site to be counted |
roxiejules |
Jul-07-11 05:03 PM |
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done |
w8liftinglady |
Jul-07-11 06:57 PM |
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Right-wing nut-owned LATimes high-fiving right-wing nut Fred Hyatt's WaPo Business Section lies. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 04:34 PM |
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Well Here... Pick A Source You Like... There Certainly Are Plenty Of Them... |
WillyT |
Jul-07-11 04:40 PM |
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+ 1 |
flamingdem |
Jul-07-11 04:41 PM |
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Has he made a statement clearly stating that SS is OFF the table? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 04:42 PM |
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Pres. Obama in his SOTU said he'd cut costs and fraud but not benefits. Nothing has changed. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 04:48 PM |
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Why is he still tying SS to the deficit? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 04:52 PM |
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Quote? |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 04:54 PM |
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The current debate is all over the news. The debate is supposed to |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 05:25 PM |
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So you have no quote? |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 06:31 PM |
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So you agree? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 06:35 PM |
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Your statements are a strawman fallacy to distract from the fact you have no quote. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 06:38 PM |
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Where is your quote from this president stating that Social Security |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 06:41 PM |
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Prove your claim. I tire of your reindeer games. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 06:44 PM |
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No quote, I didn't think so. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 06:50 PM |
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Um, I didn't make any such claim. Why are you pretending otherwise? |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 06:53 PM |
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You are claiming that this president has never |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 07:18 PM |
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Prove it. Quote me. That's a false statement. You've just concocted another strawman argument. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 07:29 PM |
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Well, now we are getting somewhere. So you do NOT deny |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 07:41 PM |
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Nice try. I'm still waiting for the quote that backs up your claim here. --> |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 08:13 PM |
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Did you notice my question in that comment? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-08-11 12:58 AM |
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she's right |
newspeak |
Jul-07-11 08:34 PM |
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I haven't seen one |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 05:04 PM |
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He also said some things about the public option... |
_ed_ |
Jul-08-11 10:47 AM |
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Bernie Sanders is far from a right wing nut |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 04:43 PM |
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Does he know "The Progressive Caucus DEFENDS President Obama on his Social Security Stance"? |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 04:50 PM |
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I couldn't care less who defends it |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 05:01 PM |
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I couldn't care less about your opinion. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 05:15 PM |
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It's mutual |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 05:22 PM |
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I didn't offer any. Unlike you, the facts are at my disposal. Sanders has none. Neither do you. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 05:26 PM |
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I haven't seen you offer a fact yet |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 05:32 PM |
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Reread the fact highlighted between the quotation marks in Reply #11 again. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 05:57 PM |
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Raising the retirement age is not cutting SS? |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 06:37 PM |
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Prove it. Are you privy to the final budget deal proposal? You must be the only one. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 06:40 PM |
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It's not my claim. The claim was made in the CNN link I posted |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 07:30 PM |
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It's pure speculation. MSM whore rumors don't interest me. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 07:32 PM |
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Then why do you post links to articles |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 07:34 PM |
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The WH has pushed back on speculation that SS benefits are on the table. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 08:15 PM |
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'SS ~ not a major driver of the deficit'. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-08-11 12:04 AM |
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+1000 |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 09:11 PM |
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ya'll are arguing with an 'ignored' maybe it'll save you time, I don't expect change |
StarsInHerHair |
Jul-07-11 07:21 PM |
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I think you are probably right, but I keep hoping |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 07:32 PM |
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yeah, know at least, that we do have this in common with the TP, we can |
StarsInHerHair |
Jul-07-11 09:12 PM |
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It's already "old news"? |
Marr |
Jul-07-11 04:40 PM |
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They have weasel worded |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 04:45 PM |
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can they be blocked at Governor level? Various govnernors collecting |
StarsInHerHair |
Jul-07-11 07:23 PM |
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Obama will face heat from the left, liberals, moderates, many conservatives ... |
damntexdem |
Jul-07-11 04:49 PM |
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"Obama Faces Heat From The Left ..." |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-07-11 04:54 PM |
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yes gives him more to brag about |
Raine |
Jul-07-11 05:22 PM |
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Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to get the 'left' |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-07-11 06:39 PM |
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He should face more than just "heat". |
bvar22 |
Jul-07-11 05:07 PM |
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yes that and a serious progressive primary challenger who |
Raine |
Jul-07-11 05:24 PM |
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Dean/Colbert? Colbert/Franken? Sanders/Colbert? Dean/Sanders? |
StarsInHerHair |
Jul-07-11 07:25 PM |
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You rang??? |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-07-11 05:56 PM |
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"Obama Faces Heat From The Left" |
gkhouston |
Jul-07-11 05:19 PM |
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OLD NEWS? I completely despise Obama's entire economic team. |
w4rma |
Jul-07-11 07:22 PM |
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Why? Pres. Obama in his SOTU said he'd cut costs and fraud but not benefits. Nothing has changed. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 08:18 PM |
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Saved us from going over an economic cliff? |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 09:21 PM |
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Yes. |
ClarkUSA |
Jul-07-11 09:44 PM |
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None of the ones that were the architects of the disaster |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 10:02 PM |
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Disaster Capitalism. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jul-08-11 10:39 AM |
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HEAT |
larwdem |
Jul-07-11 08:29 PM |
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Obama Faces Heat... But.. He doesn't give a shit...... |
lib2DaBone |
Jul-07-11 10:42 PM |
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"Cutting Social Security to reduce the national debt is like attacking Iraq to get Osama Bin Laden - |
me b zola |
Jul-08-11 12:12 AM |
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Headline implies that moderates, independents and |
KurtNYC |
Jul-08-11 07:08 AM |
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Read my lips: no one party to eviscerating social security, Medicare, or Medicaid to pay for BHO's |
indepat |
Jul-08-11 01:13 PM |
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