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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:01 PM
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15. I couldn't care less who defends it
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 05:02 PM by Aerows
It's a dumb position and it's going to have disastrous consequences for Obama and probably for other Democrats.

If you don't realize that, and Obama doesn't realize that, then you aren't living with the reality that most Americans are living in.

When people who have paid into SS and Medicare all of their lives wake up with their benefits cut or no COLA, there will be a veritable shitstorm of anger at the polls.

Hell, maybe the Progressive caucus is supporting it because they want Obama primaried. Who knows, but anyone on board with cutting SS/Medicare is crazy if they think it won't be a political disaster.
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  -Obama Faces Heat From The Left Over Social Security - LATimes WillyT  Jul-07-11 04:33 PM   #0 
  - Sanders rocks. Too bad he isn't POTUS.  N7Shepard   Jul-07-11 04:34 PM   #1 
  - Sanders is taking a survey....go to his site to be counted  roxiejules   Jul-07-11 05:03 PM   #16 
     - done  w8liftinglady   Jul-07-11 06:57 PM   #39 
  - Right-wing nut-owned LATimes high-fiving right-wing nut Fred Hyatt's WaPo Business Section lies.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 04:34 PM   #2 
  - Well Here... Pick A Source You Like... There Certainly Are Plenty Of Them...  WillyT   Jul-07-11 04:40 PM   #4 
  - + 1  flamingdem   Jul-07-11 04:41 PM   #5 
  - Has he made a statement clearly stating that SS is OFF the table?  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 04:42 PM   #6 
  - Pres. Obama in his SOTU said he'd cut costs and fraud but not benefits. Nothing has changed.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 04:48 PM   #9 
     - Why is he still tying SS to the deficit?  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 04:52 PM   #12 
     - Quote?  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 04:54 PM   #13 
     - The current debate is all over the news. The debate is supposed to  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 05:25 PM   #24 
        - So you have no quote?  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 06:31 PM   #29 
           - So you agree?  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 06:35 PM   #30 
              - Your statements are a strawman fallacy to distract from the fact you have no quote.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 06:38 PM   #32 
                 - Where is your quote from this president stating that Social Security  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 06:41 PM   #35 
                 - Prove your claim. I tire of your reindeer games.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 06:44 PM   #36 
                    - No quote, I didn't think so.  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 06:50 PM   #37 
                       - Um, I didn't make any such claim. Why are you pretending otherwise?  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 06:53 PM   #38 
                          - You are claiming that this president has never  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 07:18 PM   #40 
                             - Prove it. Quote me. That's a false statement. You've just concocted another strawman argument.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 07:29 PM   #45 
                                - Well, now we are getting somewhere. So you do NOT deny  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 07:41 PM   #50 
                                   - Nice try. I'm still waiting for the quote that backs up your claim here. -->  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 08:13 PM   #51 
                                      - Did you notice my question in that comment?  sabrina 1   Jul-08-11 12:58 AM   #64 
                 - she's right  newspeak   Jul-07-11 08:34 PM   #55 
     - I haven't seen one  Aerows   Jul-07-11 05:04 PM   #17 
     - He also said some things about the public option...  _ed_   Jul-08-11 10:47 AM   #67 
  - Bernie Sanders is far from a right wing nut  Aerows   Jul-07-11 04:43 PM   #7 
     - Does he know "The Progressive Caucus DEFENDS President Obama on his Social Security Stance"?  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 04:50 PM   #11 
        - I couldn't care less who defends it  Aerows   Jul-07-11 05:01 PM   #15 
           - I couldn't care less about your opinion.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 05:15 PM   #19 
              - It's mutual  Aerows   Jul-07-11 05:22 PM   #22 
                 - I didn't offer any. Unlike you, the facts are at my disposal. Sanders has none. Neither do you.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 05:26 PM   #25 
                    - I haven't seen you offer a fact yet  Aerows   Jul-07-11 05:32 PM   #26 
                    - Reread the fact highlighted between the quotation marks in Reply #11 again.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 05:57 PM   #28 
                    - Raising the retirement age is not cutting SS?  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 06:37 PM   #31 
                       - Prove it. Are you privy to the final budget deal proposal? You must be the only one.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 06:40 PM   #34 
                       - It's not my claim. The claim was made in the CNN link I posted  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 07:30 PM   #46 
                          - It's pure speculation. MSM whore rumors don't interest me.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 07:32 PM   #47 
                          - Then why do you post links to articles  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 07:34 PM   #49 
                             - The WH has pushed back on speculation that SS benefits are on the table.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 08:15 PM   #52 
                                - 'SS ~ not a major driver of the deficit'.  sabrina 1   Jul-08-11 12:04 AM   #62 
                          - +1000  Aerows   Jul-07-11 09:11 PM   #56 
                       - ya'll are arguing with an 'ignored' maybe it'll save you time, I don't expect change  StarsInHerHair   Jul-07-11 07:21 PM   #41 
                          - I think you are probably right, but I keep hoping  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 07:32 PM   #48 
                             - yeah, know at least, that we do have this in common with the TP, we can  StarsInHerHair   Jul-07-11 09:12 PM   #57 
  - It's already "old news"?  Marr   Jul-07-11 04:40 PM   #3 
  - They have weasel worded  Aerows   Jul-07-11 04:45 PM   #8 
     - can they be blocked at Governor level? Various govnernors collecting  StarsInHerHair   Jul-07-11 07:23 PM   #43 
  - Obama will face heat from the left, liberals, moderates, many conservatives ...  damntexdem   Jul-07-11 04:49 PM   #10 
  - "Obama Faces Heat From The Left ..."  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-07-11 04:54 PM   #14 
  - yes gives him more to brag about  Raine   Jul-07-11 05:22 PM   #21 
     - Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to get the 'left'  sabrina 1   Jul-07-11 06:39 PM   #33 
  - He should face more than just "heat".  bvar22   Jul-07-11 05:07 PM   #18 
  - yes that and a serious progressive primary challenger who  Raine   Jul-07-11 05:24 PM   #23 
  - Dean/Colbert? Colbert/Franken? Sanders/Colbert? Dean/Sanders?  StarsInHerHair   Jul-07-11 07:25 PM   #44 
  - You rang???  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-07-11 05:56 PM   #27 
  - "Obama Faces Heat From The Left"  gkhouston   Jul-07-11 05:19 PM   #20 
  - OLD NEWS? I completely despise Obama's entire economic team.  w4rma   Jul-07-11 07:22 PM   #42 
  - Why? Pres. Obama in his SOTU said he'd cut costs and fraud but not benefits. Nothing has changed.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 08:18 PM   #53 
     - Saved us from going over an economic cliff?  Aerows   Jul-07-11 09:21 PM   #58 
        - Yes.  ClarkUSA   Jul-07-11 09:44 PM   #59 
           - None of the ones that were the architects of the disaster  Aerows   Jul-07-11 10:02 PM   #60 
              - Disaster Capitalism. nm  rhett o rick   Jul-08-11 10:39 AM   #66 
  - HEAT  larwdem   Jul-07-11 08:29 PM   #54 
  - Obama Faces Heat... But.. He doesn't give a shit......  lib2DaBone   Jul-07-11 10:42 PM   #61 
  - "Cutting Social Security to reduce the national debt is like attacking Iraq to get Osama Bin Laden -  me b zola   Jul-08-11 12:12 AM   #63 
  - Headline implies that moderates, independents and  KurtNYC   Jul-08-11 07:08 AM   #65 
  - Read my lips: no one party to eviscerating social security, Medicare, or Medicaid to pay for BHO's  indepat   Jul-08-11 01:13 PM   #68 

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