Capitalocracy
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Thu Jul-07-11 09:08 AM
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| 39. So raising the retirement age helps people how? |
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How is raising the retirement age not a net benefit cut? How is raising the retirement age going to create jobs? How is raising the retirement age going to help anyone anywhere except in the deficit hawks' fantasy world?
And why should we stand for it?
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| -Your SS benefits aren't going to be cut.... stop with the drama |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 08:08 AM |
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link? nt |
xchrom |
Jul-07-11 08:09 AM |
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You're totally wrong. |
MannyGoldstein |
Jul-07-11 08:10 AM |
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Show me anything in the WaPo or NYT articles that indicates that |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 08:11 AM |
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Never negotiate with a terrorist (or a Republican) |
Eddie Haskell |
Jul-07-11 12:16 PM |
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apparently to some 'change' means 'cut'.... |
Whisp |
Jul-07-11 08:10 AM |
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So your contention is that "change" when applied to entitlements means "increase" |
Fumesucker |
Jul-07-11 08:11 AM |
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or cut down on the waste. could be that too |
Whisp |
Jul-07-11 08:52 AM |
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change doesn't mean less- it means different. |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-07-11 12:09 PM |
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Well, I'm sure that any changes will be for the better.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-07-11 01:11 PM |
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I'm not- sometimes change has to happen and it doesn't really |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-07-11 01:28 PM |
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Wrong, |
MadHound |
Jul-07-11 08:10 AM |
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How odd. No response. |
Marr |
Jul-07-11 11:39 AM |
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Jul-07-11 08:10 AM |
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Means testing will sound the death knell for SS.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-07-11 08:11 AM |
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Means testing means rich get lesser benefit, that's all |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 08:11 AM |
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Where is AFDC? |
Fumesucker |
Jul-07-11 08:12 AM |
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AFDC isn't something that people pay into directly with an expected return... apples and oranges |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 08:16 AM |
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Apparently you've not heard about the payroll tax holiday.. |
Fumesucker |
Jul-07-11 08:20 AM |
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Being forced to pay into a program that is means tested, resulting in some receiving a reduced |
NorthCarolina |
Jul-07-11 08:56 AM |
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What worries me is how you determine who is rich ... |
spin |
Jul-07-11 11:34 AM |
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The GOP is never in a political bind. |
bluethruandthru |
Jul-07-11 08:11 AM |
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If what you say is it, then no problem. But that's not what the WaHoPo and NYT articles imply. |
Pholus |
Jul-07-11 08:12 AM |
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how do you know what they are proposing? |
WI_DEM |
Jul-07-11 08:13 AM |
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How Do the Drama Queens? |
DarthDem |
Jul-07-11 08:14 AM |
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And if you're wrong? |
atreides1 |
Jul-07-11 08:14 AM |
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It will be defended tooth and nail, just like the bush-Obama tax cuts. |
tekisui |
Jul-07-11 08:16 AM |
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I don't defend the tax cuts.. we should've let them expire last year |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 08:18 AM |
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Mmmmmm......chess! |
StandingInLeftField |
Jul-07-11 08:14 AM |
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How do you know? I'll take the recommended wait and see. |
tekisui |
Jul-07-11 08:15 AM |
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What you fail to understand is that its the "Drama" that stops the cuts |
ThomWV |
Jul-07-11 08:16 AM |
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"The docile always lose, always." - I thought that quote should be in a headline |
GOTV |
Jul-07-11 11:37 AM |
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So, we should WAIT to find out if we're fucked? Bullshit! |
CleanGreenFuture |
Jul-07-11 08:16 AM |
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"nothing at all is going to change." Now there's a slogan. |
rug |
Jul-07-11 08:16 AM |
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Cutting Social Security and Medicare is unaccpecable... |
Ozymanithrax |
Jul-07-11 08:19 AM |
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Longer life-spans doesn't mean people |
liskddksil |
Jul-07-11 08:19 AM |
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I was under the impression that these change were a long time coming... |
Walk away |
Jul-07-11 08:20 AM |
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Go ahead, Obama - embrace that Third Rail. This is political suicide. |
leveymg |
Jul-07-11 08:20 AM |
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Americans aren't living longer. We're just more likely to live to adulthood. |
Ian David |
Jul-07-11 08:21 AM |
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Unrecc'd by the "screaming is more fun" crowd... |
SidDithers |
Jul-07-11 08:22 AM |
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White House official pushes back that it won’t be making a “grand offer” on Social Security. |
Ian David |
Jul-07-11 08:32 AM |
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Ahhhh. Luke. Come to the dark side. |
Jakes Progress |
Jul-07-11 08:37 AM |
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I'm sure you will be back here in a few days |
Aerows |
Jul-07-11 08:44 AM |
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I'm here every day |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 12:12 PM |
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Awww, that's cute |
BeFree |
Jul-07-11 08:48 AM |
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Jul-07-11 09:04 AM |
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Going Off Half-Cocked Is A DU Tradition, Sir. |
Yavin4 |
Jul-07-11 09:07 AM |
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So raising the retirement age helps people how? |
Capitalocracy |
Jul-07-11 09:08 AM |
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Got it. Obama and the Repugs are really screwing us for our own good. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-07-11 09:45 AM |
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he's not going to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy.... stop the drama |
frylock |
Jul-07-11 11:24 AM |
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Stop being a drama queen. |
Rex |
Jul-07-11 11:34 AM |
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What on earth makes you believe they'll lift the cap? |
rucky |
Jul-07-11 11:41 AM |
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That's what will be proposed by Obama and Dems.... whether it happens or not will remain to be seen |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 12:17 PM |
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There is no use... |
SkyDaddy7 |
Jul-07-11 11:41 AM |
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Means testing turns the program from an insurance program to a welfare program. |
LiberalAndProud |
Jul-07-11 11:55 AM |
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Raising the age is a huge cut and 67 is already too much. |
newportdadde |
Jul-07-11 12:02 PM |
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I'm a gray warrior, sonny! Don't mess wid my SS. I'll Twitter yer ass off, ya whippersnapper!! |
Major Hogwash |
Jul-07-11 12:12 PM |
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Alright... now that was downright funny. |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 12:13 PM |
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News flash: Means testing would open the program up for privatization, raising the age is a cut |
jtown1123 |
Jul-07-11 12:13 PM |
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Raising the age has been done to you already... |
scheming daemons |
Jul-07-11 12:16 PM |
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Already raised in the 80s |
LiberalAndProud |
Jul-07-11 01:18 PM |
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Locking |
cbayer |
Jul-07-11 01:44 PM |
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