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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:10 AM
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4. Wrong,
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Sorry, can't spin your way out of this one. Nor can you insult, or be dismissive, or bully people into seeing the obvious. It is plain to all of us, Obama has sold SS, Medicare, and us down the river.
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  -Your SS benefits aren't going to be cut.... stop with the drama scheming daemons  Jul-07-11 08:08 AM   #0 
  - link? nt  xchrom   Jul-07-11 08:09 AM   #1 
  - You're totally wrong.  MannyGoldstein   Jul-07-11 08:10 AM   #2 
  - Show me anything in the WaPo or NYT articles that indicates that  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 08:11 AM   #7 
  - Never negotiate with a terrorist (or a Republican)  Eddie Haskell   Jul-07-11 12:16 PM   #56 
  - apparently to some 'change' means 'cut'....  Whisp   Jul-07-11 08:10 AM   #3 
  - So your contention is that "change" when applied to entitlements means "increase"  Fumesucker   Jul-07-11 08:11 AM   #9 
     - or cut down on the waste. could be that too  Whisp   Jul-07-11 08:52 AM   #35 
     - change doesn't mean less- it means different.  Bluerthanblue   Jul-07-11 12:09 PM   #50 
        - Well, I'm sure that any changes will be for the better..  Fumesucker   Jul-07-11 01:11 PM   #58 
           - I'm not- sometimes change has to happen and it doesn't really  Bluerthanblue   Jul-07-11 01:28 PM   #60 
  - Wrong,  MadHound   Jul-07-11 08:10 AM   #4 
  - How odd. No response.  Marr   Jul-07-11 11:39 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-07-11 08:10 AM   #5 
  - Means testing will sound the death knell for SS..  Fumesucker   Jul-07-11 08:11 AM   #6 
  - Means testing means rich get lesser benefit, that's all  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 08:11 AM   #8 
     - Where is AFDC?  Fumesucker   Jul-07-11 08:12 AM   #12 
     - AFDC isn't something that people pay into directly with an expected return... apples and oranges  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 08:16 AM   #19 
        - Apparently you've not heard about the payroll tax holiday..  Fumesucker   Jul-07-11 08:20 AM   #28 
     - Being forced to pay into a program that is means tested, resulting in some receiving a reduced  NorthCarolina   Jul-07-11 08:56 AM   #36 
     - What worries me is how you determine who is rich ...  spin   Jul-07-11 11:34 AM   #43 
  - The GOP is never in a political bind.  bluethruandthru   Jul-07-11 08:11 AM   #10 
  - If what you say is it, then no problem. But that's not what the WaHoPo and NYT articles imply.  Pholus   Jul-07-11 08:12 AM   #11 
  - how do you know what they are proposing?  WI_DEM   Jul-07-11 08:13 AM   #13 
  - How Do the Drama Queens?  DarthDem   Jul-07-11 08:14 AM   #16 
  - And if you're wrong?  atreides1   Jul-07-11 08:14 AM   #14 
  - It will be defended tooth and nail, just like the bush-Obama tax cuts.  tekisui   Jul-07-11 08:16 AM   #20 
     - I don't defend the tax cuts.. we should've let them expire last year  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 08:18 AM   #23 
  - Mmmmmm......chess!  StandingInLeftField   Jul-07-11 08:14 AM   #15 
  - How do you know? I'll take the recommended wait and see.  tekisui   Jul-07-11 08:15 AM   #17 
  - What you fail to understand is that its the "Drama" that stops the cuts  ThomWV   Jul-07-11 08:16 AM   #18 
  - "The docile always lose, always." - I thought that quote should be in a headline  GOTV   Jul-07-11 11:37 AM   #44 
  - So, we should WAIT to find out if we're fucked? Bullshit!  CleanGreenFuture   Jul-07-11 08:16 AM   #21 
  - "nothing at all is going to change." Now there's a slogan.  rug   Jul-07-11 08:16 AM   #22 
  - Cutting Social Security and Medicare is unaccpecable...  Ozymanithrax   Jul-07-11 08:19 AM   #24 
  - Longer life-spans doesn't mean people  liskddksil   Jul-07-11 08:19 AM   #25 
  - I was under the impression that these change were a long time coming...  Walk away   Jul-07-11 08:20 AM   #26 
  - Go ahead, Obama - embrace that Third Rail. This is political suicide.  leveymg   Jul-07-11 08:20 AM   #27 
  - Americans aren't living longer. We're just more likely to live to adulthood.  Ian David   Jul-07-11 08:21 AM   #29 
  - Unrecc'd by the "screaming is more fun" crowd...  SidDithers   Jul-07-11 08:22 AM   #30 
  - White House official pushes back that it wont be making a grand offer on Social Security.  Ian David   Jul-07-11 08:32 AM   #31 
  - Ahhhh. Luke. Come to the dark side.  Jakes Progress   Jul-07-11 08:37 AM   #32 
  - I'm sure you will be back here in a few days  Aerows   Jul-07-11 08:44 AM   #33 
  - I'm here every day  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 12:12 PM   #52 
  - Awww, that's cute  BeFree   Jul-07-11 08:48 AM   #34 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-07-11 09:04 AM   #37 
  - Going Off Half-Cocked Is A DU Tradition, Sir.  Yavin4   Jul-07-11 09:07 AM   #38 
  - So raising the retirement age helps people how?  Capitalocracy   Jul-07-11 09:08 AM   #39 
  - Got it. Obama and the Repugs are really screwing us for our own good.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-07-11 09:45 AM   #40 
  - he's not going to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy.... stop the drama  frylock   Jul-07-11 11:24 AM   #41 
  - Stop being a drama queen.  Rex   Jul-07-11 11:34 AM   #42 
  - What on earth makes you believe they'll lift the cap?  rucky   Jul-07-11 11:41 AM   #46 
  - That's what will be proposed by Obama and Dems.... whether it happens or not will remain to be seen  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 12:17 PM   #57 
  - There is no use...  SkyDaddy7   Jul-07-11 11:41 AM   #47 
  - Means testing turns the program from an insurance program to a welfare program.  LiberalAndProud   Jul-07-11 11:55 AM   #48 
  - Raising the age is a huge cut and 67 is already too much.  newportdadde   Jul-07-11 12:02 PM   #49 
  - I'm a gray warrior, sonny! Don't mess wid my SS. I'll Twitter yer ass off, ya whippersnapper!!  Major Hogwash   Jul-07-11 12:12 PM   #51 
  - Alright... now that was downright funny.  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 12:13 PM   #53 
  - News flash: Means testing would open the program up for privatization, raising the age is a cut  jtown1123   Jul-07-11 12:13 PM   #54 
  - Raising the age has been done to you already...  scheming daemons   Jul-07-11 12:16 PM   #55 
     - Already raised in the 80s  LiberalAndProud   Jul-07-11 01:18 PM   #59 
  - Locking  cbayer   Jul-07-11 01:44 PM   #61 
 

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