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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-05-11 09:11 PM
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42. Here's the regulation:
<pdf: Federal Register Vol 75 #248 Tues 28 Dec 2010, p p81766 ff>
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  -Baby beds: Cant give, donate or sell em (New law prohibits donation of used cribs) Zephie  Jul-05-11 07:46 PM   #0 
  - Plus what will you do with your old one?  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-05-11 07:49 PM   #1 
  - You take it apart and put it in the garbage. My post #14 explains why. n/t  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:15 PM   #15 
  - talk about your nanny state. Can't they assume parents have sense enough  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-05-11 07:51 PM   #2 
  - In a word, no. The problems aren't always self evident.  Gormy Cuss   Jul-05-11 08:09 PM   #11 
  - How did previous generations of kids survive?  former9thward   Jul-06-11 08:48 PM   #114 
     - Actually, some of it was dumb luck.  Gormy Cuss   Jul-06-11 10:07 PM   #122 
     - They didn't all survive. Child mortality rates were higher  pnwmom   Jul-07-11 03:10 AM   #124 
  - You think parents can do the research studies to determine the safe  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:19 PM   #17 
  - Got kids?  PurityOfEssence   Jul-05-11 08:55 PM   #36 
  - When our son was in the midst of his 8 yr long medical nightmare  SoCalDem   Jul-05-11 09:24 PM   #48 
  - I know a friend with a nine month old  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 03:43 PM   #96 
  - ok ok... I'm learning stuff here.  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-06-11 01:44 PM   #91 
     - That happens sometimes,  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 03:40 PM   #95 
  - What about the parents whose kids were killed in cribs of previous design?  CreekDog   Jul-05-11 10:46 PM   #61 
     - Thank you.  Zoeisright   Jul-05-11 11:27 PM   #68 
     - I withdraw my statement.  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-06-11 01:45 PM   #92 
  - I bet the lobbyist that got that through is sitting pretty right now.  Shagbark Hickory   Jul-05-11 07:53 PM   #3 
  - Drop side cribs are dangerous  Danmel   Jul-05-11 07:55 PM   #4 
  - It applies to all cribs, not just drop side.  Zephie   Jul-05-11 07:57 PM   #6 
     - Better, safer equipment is made all the time.  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 08:01 PM   #7 
     - Funny how a car seat wears out in six years..  Fumesucker   Jul-05-11 08:07 PM   #9 
     - The issue with cribs is that babies spend many hours in them  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:28 PM   #23 
     - i agree. that would affect your thinking on that.  ejpoeta   Jul-05-11 09:59 PM   #58 
     - Cars aren't made of plastic and sold for $20-$300.  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 08:33 PM   #31 
        - You might be surprised at how much plastic modern cars contain..  Fumesucker   Jul-05-11 09:56 PM   #57 
           - jeez, you aren't actually arguing that a car seat should last as long as a car?  CreekDog   Jul-05-11 10:50 PM   #62 
           - I guess I'm just fundamentally against poorly designed and built products that are disposable..  Fumesucker   Jul-05-11 11:42 PM   #72 
              - Almost nobody needs a child seat to last 15 years or more.  LeftyMom   Jul-06-11 12:00 AM   #77 
           - They're not structural safety components.  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 11:24 PM   #67 
              - I noticed that after car seats had to go in the back..  Fumesucker   Jul-05-11 11:55 PM   #75 
                 - Seats go in the back because kids were getting killed by front airbags.  LeftyMom   Jul-06-11 12:05 AM   #79 
                    - The single biggest boost we could make to auto safety in the USA..  Fumesucker   Jul-06-11 12:23 AM   # 
                       - That does not in any way change the fact that safe, modern seats protect young children.  LeftyMom   Jul-06-11 12:30 AM   #82 
                          - So my statistics are asspulled?  Fumesucker   Jul-06-11 12:40 AM   #83 
                             - Oh, if you've got a source for that 90% number I'd love to see it.  LeftyMom   Jul-06-11 12:48 AM   #85 
                                - ...  Fumesucker   Jul-06-11 12:52 AM   #86 
     - I absolutely shudder when I think about the car seats that were available  Arkansas Granny   Jul-06-11 02:02 PM   #94 
        - The one I had in the 80's only looked a bit better.  LeftyMom   Jul-06-11 09:30 PM   #116 
     - Older cribs have had lots of problems. It's not just the drop-down sides  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:25 PM   #19 
  - A basic crib is $100ish at Ikea.  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 07:56 PM   #5 
  - I live in a military town  xmas74   Jul-05-11 08:09 PM   #10 
  - give me a break. i have been poor and had a kid and things for babies cost a lot of money.  ejpoeta   Jul-05-11 08:26 PM   #22 
     - You can't tell by looking whether a crib is safe. That's the point.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:29 PM   #25 
     - i read your post and am glad your child was ok. but this crib is newer.  ejpoeta   Jul-05-11 08:58 PM   #38 
        - I don't know why either. But first they realized  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 09:41 PM   #51 
     - I didn't have two nickels to rub together when my son was a baby.  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 08:38 PM   #32 
        - so apparently i don't care about my kids because i didn't go out and buy my kids new stuff. yeah ok  ejpoeta   Jul-05-11 09:34 PM   #50 
  - Take note: if you torture someone by waterboarding them, you get off scot free...  derby378   Jul-05-11 08:05 PM   #8 
  - I didn't even think about church!  xmas74   Jul-05-11 08:10 PM   #12 
  - My daughter's old Jenny Lind is what almost killed my son.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:31 PM   #27 
  - Point taken, but this covers more than just faulty cribs  derby378   Jul-05-11 09:29 PM   #49 
     - My crib WASN'T faulty. The design was faulty. It had the standard design for the time.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 09:43 PM   #52 
  - *LOL!* How did we baby boomers survive to adulthood?  Mimosa   Jul-05-11 09:07 PM   #41 
     - Not all of us did, unfortunately. I lost a baby sister  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 09:44 PM   #53 
     - i'm glad you feel the 5% are expendable  CreekDog   Jul-05-11 10:51 PM   #63 
     - I don't take it frivolously.  Mimosa   Jul-06-11 02:03 AM   #88 
        - You lost "a sibling or two." Don't you know how many?  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 03:44 PM   #97 
           - Yws, but I don't spill my personal history to strangers. n't  Mimosa   Jul-06-11 09:25 PM   #115 
              - Saying you lost "a sibling or two" is still "spilling" personal history.  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 10:00 PM   #119 
     - thats because they  Dokkie   Jul-06-11 09:51 PM   #117 
        - Yep. Hangin' a few babies by their neck in their cribs oughtta toughen 'em up. Eh?  Hassin Bin Sober   Jul-06-11 10:03 PM   #120 
        - How would you feel if you had ever walked into your baby's bedroom  pnwmom   Jul-07-11 03:17 AM   #125 
  - Maybe they could be recycled and used for something to grow vining veggies on  nc4bo   Jul-05-11 08:10 PM   #13 
  - When our crib failed, I happily dismantled it rather than give it away.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:14 PM   #14 
  - wonderful for the industry.  seabeyond   Jul-05-11 08:17 PM   #16 
  - Put the little shits in a dresser drawer like the old days.  Arctic Dave   Jul-05-11 08:21 PM   #18 
  - Or you could chloroform them and put tape over their mouths.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:26 PM   #20 
  - Dude!  Vanje   Jul-05-11 08:32 PM   #28 
  - Amanda Knox IS innocent. No witnesses, no DNA, no physical evidence,  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:41 PM   #33 
  - Chloroform is too expensive.  Arctic Dave   Jul-05-11 08:32 PM   #29 
  - Cardboard box  Vanje   Jul-05-11 08:28 PM   #24 
     - Good idea. Then you can mail them to China if they get too cranky. nt  Arctic Dave   Jul-05-11 08:30 PM   #26 
        - How much to ship a 15 year old girl to China?  Nevernose   Jul-05-11 08:43 PM   #34 
  - Hate to be Devil's Advocate here...but there are a few "issues" I can think of WRT why donating  BlueIris   Jul-05-11 08:26 PM   #21 
  - I can, too, since my son could have died in a poorly designed crib.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 08:33 PM   #30 
  - Yeah plus the crib manufactors will make out like bandits  Raine   Jul-05-11 08:50 PM   #35 
  - I'd say the most significant impact will be a few less dead babies.  Maru Kitteh   Jul-05-11 09:00 PM   #39 
     - Believe it or not, I did think of that.  BlueIris   Jul-05-11 11:16 PM   #66 
  - Our third baby is using the same  sharp_stick   Jul-05-11 08:56 PM   #37 
  - We did the same thing for our third baby and I found him one morning  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 09:52 PM   #56 
  - This is such bull. My generation had large families,all born in  virgogal   Jul-05-11 09:05 PM   #40 
  - I found my toddler one morning with the crib side across his neck.  pnwmom   Jul-05-11 09:48 PM   #55 
  - is what you "heard" science?  CreekDog   Jul-05-11 10:52 PM   #64 
  - You're not convinced by that anecdata?  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 11:33 PM   #70 
     - that's funny because i didn't accuse anybody of being a lobbyist for baby morticians?  CreekDog   Jul-05-11 11:36 PM   #71 
  - Yep, bull. My grandmother was one of 9 and none of them got polio shots, and they all came out okay.  LeftyMom   Jul-05-11 11:31 PM   #69 
  - Here's the regulation:  struggle4progress   Jul-05-11 09:11 PM   #42 
  - Prohibits donation of unsafe cribs. n/t  tammywammy   Jul-05-11 09:13 PM   #43 
  - Good  dropkickpa   Jul-05-11 09:19 PM   #44 
  - At our thrift store we have a crib that we can't sell because of that  Odin2005   Jul-05-11 09:21 PM   #45 
  - Here's what the law actually says:  struggle4progress   Jul-05-11 09:22 PM   #46 
  - Thanks for your post, I did not know that.  Contrary1   Jul-05-11 09:24 PM   #47 
  - Redesign them as planters? Or maybe chop them up  Cleita   Jul-05-11 09:48 PM   #54 
  - Mattress tags...........and don't fucking lecture me either.  DainBramaged   Jul-05-11 10:02 PM   #59 
  - DONATE THEM TO ANIMAL SHELTERS  Lisa0825   Jul-05-11 10:15 PM   #60 
  - This sounds like a giveaway to corporations who make cribs.  alarimer   Jul-05-11 10:58 PM   #65 
  - you'd prefer a giveaway to the mortician lobby?  CreekDog   Jul-05-11 11:47 PM   #73 
  - It realy does. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-06-11 12:23 AM   #81 
  - Or maybe it's to reduce the number of strangled babies from preventable causes. n/t  pnwmom   Jul-07-11 03:18 AM   #126 
  - On the next episode of MTV Cribs...  Blue-Jay   Jul-05-11 11:50 PM   #74 
  - Totally ridiculous.  Horse with no Name   Jul-05-11 11:56 PM   #76 
  - What she said!  lonestarnot   Jul-06-11 12:01 AM   #78 
  - Well lets be perfectly honest here  Horse with no Name   Jul-06-11 12:18 AM   #80 
  - You are wrong to think that 25 years ago you could determine  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:04 PM   #99 
     - That is where you are 100% wrong. The drop side scared me  Horse with no Name   Jul-06-11 04:45 PM   #108 
        - No, you're wrong. It wasn't the drop side that caused a problem  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 07:35 PM   #112 
  - Seems like a scammy backdoor industry bailout to me.  TheKentuckian   Jul-06-11 12:41 AM   #84 
  - To me--a crib safety website should be all that is sufficient  Horse with no Name   Jul-06-11 01:53 AM   #87 
     - Many poor families don't have good access to computers  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:14 PM   #100 
        - Poor does not equal stupid.  Horse with no Name   Jul-06-11 04:32 PM   #105 
           - I agree with you that a recall would be preferable.  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:41 PM   #107 
              - Then the info can be given to the family at discharge from the hospital  Horse with no Name   Jul-06-11 04:49 PM   #109 
                 - Why do you support giving unsafe cribs to poor families? I would never  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 07:27 PM   #111 
                    - Strawman alert!  Horse with no Name   Jul-06-11 08:40 PM   #113 
                       - It's not a straw man. You say you're against this law. I support it. n/t  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 09:58 PM   #118 
  - No, it doesn't ban the donation of used cribs.  Xithras   Jul-06-11 02:06 AM   #89 
  - Good clarification. Thanks.  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:17 PM   #101 
  - Is this a federal law? Where is San Marcos?  JDPriestly   Jul-06-11 02:09 AM   #90 
  - What is horrible about a law that says that only safe cribs  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:32 PM   #106 
  - Good idea to avoid used furniture because of bed bugs  JPZenger   Jul-06-11 01:54 PM   #93 
  - Bed bugs are one of my worst nightmares!  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:29 PM   #104 
  - we keep ours in the family. our little one is in a 70 year old crib that has seen 12 people use  NightWatcher   Jul-06-11 03:46 PM   #98 
  - My 2nd and 3rd children used a hand-me-down crib from their sister.  pnwmom   Jul-06-11 04:27 PM   #103 
  - Is there a Baby Crib Lobby?  Quantess   Jul-06-11 04:22 PM   #102 
  - Note that this only applies to drop side cribs which are a safety issue  quiller4   Jul-06-11 05:16 PM   #110 
  - Wait for the new baby crib black market -  lynne   Jul-06-11 10:05 PM   #121 
     - You are lucky that you all survived.  pnwmom   Jul-07-11 03:06 AM   #123 

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