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| 91. When did the "Change" really start to kick in? |
| -Has Obama finally come out as a closet Republican? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:05 PM |
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No. SATSQ. n/t |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jun-29-11 07:08 PM |
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Have you listened to the speech on which I based my post |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:22 PM |
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He's no more or less a Republican... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jun-29-11 07:35 PM |
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But GITMO's still open, wars still con't, no universal healthcare, nobody held responsible |
StarburstClock |
Jun-30-11 11:56 AM |
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I called him a trimmer then... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jul-01-11 10:38 AM |
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But you're not posting that he isn't. |
Dept of Beer |
Jul-01-11 01:23 PM |
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Shoudl have been "He's no more or less 'a Republican'..." |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jul-01-11 08:00 PM |
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No. n/t |
NYC Liberal |
Jun-29-11 07:09 PM |
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Have you listened to the speech on which I based my post |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:23 PM |
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I'm sure you have quote-mined as assiduously |
intaglio |
Jun-30-11 01:26 PM |
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great pic of Obama... |
dennis4868 |
Jun-29-11 09:59 PM |
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Hmmmm? |
ProSense |
Jun-29-11 07:13 PM |
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Have you listened to the speech on which I based my post? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:21 PM |
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Tax Cuts for the Rich? |
NobodyInParticular |
Jun-29-11 07:29 PM |
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I beg ot differ. |
RC |
Jun-29-11 07:54 PM |
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Picking fights with the GOP means nothing if he caves. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jun-30-11 07:06 AM |
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Now is time for him to stick to his guns. |
Hand_With_Eyes |
Jun-30-11 09:57 AM |
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Nah. I think all that massive amount of wrong thinking just lies a |
xchrom |
Jun-29-11 07:16 PM |
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Anti-labor, anti-Social Security, anti-Medicare, pro-free-trade |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:29 PM |
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I'm not disagreeing w/ you. |
xchrom |
Jun-29-11 08:19 PM |
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No. Unfortunately, you are not. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 02:29 AM |
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This is getting old guys... |
dennis4868 |
Jun-29-11 07:20 PM |
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You see my post. I explain it well. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:33 PM |
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you don't explain it well.... |
dennis4868 |
Jun-29-11 07:43 PM |
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If you listened to the speech, you would understand my post. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:56 PM |
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And he wants to cut taxes not raise them. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 08:00 PM |
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What kind of jobs? |
RC |
Jun-29-11 08:02 PM |
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As I recall, not once in the speech does he mention the fact that the Bushes |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 08:47 PM |
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by now it's just reached the level of absurdity... |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 08:11 PM |
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The List? Much of that crap is recycled Republican policy. |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-30-11 12:38 AM |
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no |
zappaman |
Jun-29-11 07:22 PM |
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One word. Feh! |
MineralMan |
Jun-29-11 07:22 PM |
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Look at Obama. And then look at FDR, Truman, Adlai Stevenson, John F. Kennedy, |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:31 PM |
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Jun-29-11 07:34 PM |
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FDR rounded up and imprisoned millions of Americans based solely on their race. |
NYC Liberal |
Jun-29-11 07:55 PM |
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Jun-30-11 08:51 PM |
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Have you listened to his speech? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:46 PM |
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No. Were we listening to the same speech? |
Skidmore |
Jun-29-11 07:31 PM |
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With which of my comments do you disagree? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:34 PM |
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The word Parsing and presenting of bullshit speculation as "fact" |
emulatorloo |
Jun-30-11 12:00 PM |
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Did you take notes as you listened? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:47 PM |
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No, and it's idiotic to even suggest it. Unrec. |
tridim |
Jun-29-11 07:34 PM |
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You didn't watch the speech...or you wouldn't be so flippant. |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 10:39 PM |
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It wasn't a speech, it was a press conference. |
jaxx |
Jun-29-11 07:38 PM |
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It started with a speech. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:47 PM |
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Every word. |
jaxx |
Jun-29-11 08:20 PM |
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Obama is a 'Rockefeller Republican' |
Mimosa |
Jun-29-11 07:42 PM |
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Thank you Mimosa. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:49 PM |
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I'd say from watching that "presser" today..that he's a bit to the Right of Nelson Rockefeller... |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 10:06 PM |
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Actually, I think he's to the right of Rockefeller n/t |
dflprincess |
Jun-29-11 10:07 PM |
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Eisenhower and Nixon to. |
ej510 |
Jul-01-11 03:33 PM |
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No, they wouldn't. |
okasha |
Jun-30-11 10:07 AM |
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He's a DLC New Dem. Isn't that pretty much the same as being a Republican? |
NorthCarolina |
Jun-29-11 07:42 PM |
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New Democrats make Tony Blair look like a Marxist |
Mimosa |
Jun-29-11 08:10 PM |
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I appreciate the effort you took to write this~ |
merbex |
Jun-29-11 07:47 PM |
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I would say he is in the Bi-Curious section for sure. |
Arctic Dave |
Jun-29-11 07:48 PM |
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! |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-30-11 12:22 AM |
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Jun-29-11 07:54 PM |
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I agree, because he isn't even getting a Democratic message out there. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-29-11 07:58 PM |
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ROFL, this is hillarious. the alternate realities folks can create are amazing. |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 08:04 PM |
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Any comments on the points made in the OP? |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-29-11 10:06 PM |
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What part in particular of the OP is humorous |
Dept of Beer |
Jul-01-11 01:30 PM |
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I can't disagree with any part of which you've written. |
canoeist52 |
Jun-29-11 08:10 PM |
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Oh ffs... |
SidDithers |
Jun-29-11 08:12 PM |
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Jun-29-11 08:19 PM |
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No. I think not. |
Chan790 |
Jun-29-11 08:35 PM |
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"You can't compromise and agree to split the puppy; half a puppy is a dead puppy" |
canoeist52 |
Jun-29-11 09:20 PM |
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You explain it very well, Chan790. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 02:34 AM |
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JD, thank you for taking the time and care to notate the speech. |
Mimosa |
Jun-30-11 10:13 PM |
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Wonderful insight, Mimosa |
NobodyInParticular |
Jul-01-11 07:13 PM |
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Hahaha. Stupidist OP of the day. Nt |
DevonRex |
Jun-29-11 09:13 PM |
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I thought it was a very thoughtful OP. You could refute |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-29-11 10:12 PM |
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Jun-29-11 09:19 PM |
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why yes, democrats on DU are delusional for not being outraged because obama stuck it to the GOP in |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 09:38 PM |
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What specific statements of Obama's did you like? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 03:38 AM |
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I watched the Whole Thing... |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 09:23 PM |
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which goes to show people can shape their perception to be whatever they want it to be... |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 09:34 PM |
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I heard what he said...I'm an educated Democrat It was Depressing and Revealing about his Agenda |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 09:37 PM |
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Another Obama=Rep post? |
Sheepshank |
Jun-29-11 09:28 PM |
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expect these every day for the next 6 years. the point is to turn as many DUers against the |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 09:41 PM |
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Why do you think that people who've been here on DU for years are against Obama |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 09:50 PM |
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there's no conspiracy, and this is nothing new. this has been going on since 2009. |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 10:27 PM |
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Escalated before 2010 election, escalating again now |
emulatorloo |
Jun-30-11 12:07 PM |
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You can't imagine that people can disagree with policies |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-29-11 10:26 PM |
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sickening!! nasty!!1!1 alrighty then! |
dionysus |
Jun-29-11 10:46 PM |
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dionysus, what did you understand Obama to say about Medicare |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 02:50 AM |
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dionysus, you speak generally about a "good speech." |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 10:51 AM |
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Yes, it is sickening and nasty to ascribe ulterior motives to |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-30-11 12:05 PM |
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How do you define a Democrat, Sheepshank? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 02:43 AM |
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Dup n/t |
Sheepshank |
Jun-30-11 09:46 AM |
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It would appear nothing less than a Democratic, Progressive Dictator would make you think otherwise |
Sheepshank |
Jun-30-11 10:03 AM |
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Dictator I would not like. But the policies I want Obama to defend, |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 10:56 AM |
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You did not answer my question, Sheepshank. |
JDPriestly |
Jul-01-11 11:20 PM |
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I hope that Obama will wake up and change what he is saying and doing. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 03:46 AM |
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Unrecced, and 15 yards |
pscot |
Jun-29-11 09:46 PM |
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Why do you think the OP is doing "gratuitous taunting?" What would they gain by this? |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 09:52 PM |
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It would appear to me and the only reason I can read into this particular post, |
Sheepshank |
Jun-29-11 09:59 PM |
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Watch the link to Obama's whole PRESSER ...and get back to me... |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 10:03 PM |
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Excuse me, Sheepshank, but as I posted above, I proudly wore |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 02:55 AM |
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bull crap paragraph attempting to describe Obama's 'feelings" |
Sheepshank |
Jun-30-11 09:40 AM |
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If he is "bristling with anger," he sure doesn't show it. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 10:58 AM |
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ahh so he doesn't show emotion the way YOU think he should... |
Sheepshank |
Jun-30-11 11:46 AM |
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Nobody is asking for "everything they want" |
Kermitt Gribble |
Jun-30-11 12:09 PM |
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I agree with most of what you say |
pscot |
Jun-30-11 10:20 AM |
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Are you, too, afraid of confrontation? |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 11:10 AM |
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Confrontation doesn't bother me |
pscot |
Jun-30-11 09:03 PM |
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That's what I am asking Obama to do -- confront the Republicans |
JDPriestly |
Jul-01-11 11:18 PM |
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Dont blame the OP for pitting Democrats against "New-Democrats". |
rhett o rick |
Jun-30-11 02:40 PM |
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Pscot, WE who are most disappointed were indeed Obama's biggest supporters |
Mimosa |
Jun-30-11 10:21 PM |
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lol! |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-30-11 10:48 PM |
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Take a look before you laugh |
Mimosa |
Jun-30-11 10:59 PM |
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Looks like a tactic to get the thread locked. IMHO. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jun-30-11 02:34 PM |
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Jun-29-11 09:58 PM |
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Really? |
KoKo |
Jun-29-11 10:02 PM |
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What did you like about the speech and what in the OP |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-29-11 10:17 PM |
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I think you need to replay the speech and get back to me. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-29-11 10:04 PM |
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Too many of today's zealots know only the current iteration of the republican party. |
Jakes Progress |
Jun-29-11 10:08 PM |
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I was listening during the campaign and heard him say he admired Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy. |
Octafish |
Jun-29-11 10:57 PM |
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Thanks, Octafish. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 02:56 AM |
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Thanks for the analysis. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-30-11 12:23 AM |
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Agree with your conclusion .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-30-11 12:56 AM |
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Excellent analysis, one of the best original DU posts I've ever read. |
inna |
Jun-30-11 01:06 AM |
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Pure garbage. n/t |
deacon |
Jun-30-11 01:28 AM |
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Excellent take ... THANKS |
Raine |
Jun-30-11 02:46 AM |
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When did the "Change" really start to kick in? |
blkmusclmachine |
Jun-30-11 04:06 AM |
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I agree with your hearing the 'dog whistles' & I have a chart but I'm just |
StarsInHerHair |
Jun-30-11 04:11 AM |
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Thanks so much, StarsinHerHair. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-30-11 11:12 AM |
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The lowest marginal tax rates again and again mark the beginning of recessions/depressions |
NobodyInParticular |
Jun-30-11 11:54 AM |
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^ There in one post StarsInHerHair explained how we got the deficit ^ |
Mimosa |
Jun-30-11 10:25 PM |
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K & R |
Le Taz Hot |
Jun-30-11 04:22 AM |
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Kicked and strongly recommended, |
woo me with science |
Jun-30-11 09:48 AM |
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Of course not.. |
Peacetrain |
Jun-30-11 09:48 AM |
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One day the Washington Generals will win! |
RandiFan1290 |
Jun-30-11 10:26 AM |
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Apart from the SCOTUS nominees |
hifiguy |
Jun-30-11 11:07 AM |
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Expanding free trade is akin to hammer down the nails on America's coffin. |
erickregger |
Jun-30-11 11:17 AM |
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If he agrees to any cuts in the social safety net, he'll be out 'n' proud. |
kenny blankenship |
Jun-30-11 12:07 PM |
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Very good points. The labor part illustrates it well |
suffragette |
Jun-30-11 01:04 PM |
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Excellent post, suffragette. |
sabrina 1 |
Jun-30-11 03:28 PM |
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And his Commerce Secretary pick has also come out in favor of management |
suffragette |
Jun-30-11 08:40 PM |
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Thank you for this post, suffragette. |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-01-11 03:26 PM |
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Well I do not believe he is naive or stupid |
alarimer |
Jun-30-11 08:49 PM |
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Give me the name of one Republican presidential candidate who agrees with you. |
ClarkUSA |
Jun-30-11 10:52 PM |
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The disconnect is really hilarious... |
JuniperLea |
Jul-01-11 01:30 PM |
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Republicans run a tight ship, |
NobodyInParticular |
Jul-01-11 02:13 PM |
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I saw it all last November |
Bryn |
Jun-30-11 11:52 PM |
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Jul-01-11 10:51 AM |
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K&R n/t |
Mimosa |
Jul-01-11 03:44 PM |
#142 |
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