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244. The more I think about it all, the more disturbing I find it...
I mean, there are only three (as far as I know) reasons for children to "misbehave".

One, they are too young to know what the boundaries are yet.

Two, they are acting out the family dysfunction.

Three, they have some sort of physical or psychological problem that makes them "misbehave".

In the first case, if the kid runs out in traffic or touches electrical outlets or gets into something he's not supposed to because he doesn't know any better, then it's the parent's job to foresee what might happen, or, if it's already happened, to make sure it doesn't happen again.

In the second case, it's not the kid's fault if he's acting out because the family dynamics suck.

In the third case, if he has something he can't help, which isn't going to respond to anything but therapy or medication, then spanking won't help.

So, basically, people spank their kids for things they (the kids) often can't help, and where the slap or swat or beating on the ass will have no effect at all.

Because nowhere have I seen here where a parent said, it only took ONE spanking and the kid never did (the undesired act) again.

I don't get it either...

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  -"Spanking" is a special word. If the act was done to an adult, it would be called hitting, slapping Liberal_in_LA  Jun-28-11 04:35 PM   #0 
  - Back in the day, kids got belt whippings. Many things have gotten better.  Zen Democrat   Jun-28-11 04:37 PM   #1 
  - I remember friends of mine getting the belt.  Cleita   Jun-29-11 02:31 PM   #161 
  - Buckle side or leather only side?  Cali_Democrat   Jul-01-11 03:31 PM   #230 
  - Back in the day, a man could rape his wife AND his kids...  derby378   Jun-30-11 06:46 PM   #193 
  - Who spanks a two year old anyway?  originalpckelly   Jun-28-11 04:37 PM   #2 
  - lots of people hit 2 year olds.  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-28-11 04:38 PM   #5 
  - my daughter is almost two, and I can't imagine any reason to hit her. ever. NT  Devil_Fish   Jun-28-11 11:24 PM   #88 
  - You can't put adults in time-out without their consent  WatsonT   Jun-28-11 04:50 PM   #13 
  - Growing up...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-28-11 05:42 PM   #29 
  - They put adults in time-out all the time  customerserviceguy   Jun-28-11 06:07 PM   #33 
     - Implying child abuse isn't more of an issue than being spoiled is within poor communities. nt  sudopod   Jun-28-11 09:57 PM   #46 
     - Right. All those guys in prision, if they had ONLY been spanked....  vanlassie   Jun-28-11 10:38 PM   #71 
     - Actually, prisons are full of people who have been physically abused. And yes, spanking is physical  Luminous Animal   Jun-28-11 11:30 PM   #91 
     - delete  WatsonT   Jun-29-11 08:11 AM   #119 
  - Tons of parents do it...  Dappleganger   Jun-28-11 09:37 PM   #39 
  - How entirely ridiculous.  Lionessa   Jun-28-11 04:38 PM   #3 
  - That was not a spanking.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-28-11 04:38 PM   #4 
  - correction: "I quick hit to a toddler's diapered behind" Call it what it is  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-28-11 04:40 PM   #6 
  - A hit causes pain.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-28-11 04:50 PM   #14 
  - If it doesn't cause pain, then what is the point?  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 09:24 PM   #35 
     - "People spank because it hurts..."  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:33 AM   #133 
  - I used to 'spank' my kids for going into their mother's purse.  The Doctor.   Jun-28-11 10:32 PM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-11 08:20 AM   #121 
  - What's interesting about this account...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:57 AM   #135 
  - When in doubt, just make stuff up?  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 01:13 PM   #150 
     - Really? What's "made up"?  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 02:20 PM   #157 
        - It must be wonderful to know so much about a situation you've never been acquainted with.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 08:28 PM   #164 
           - OK then...  pipi_k   Jun-30-11 02:33 PM   #184 
  - Holy shit  MouseFitzgerald   Jul-01-11 01:16 AM   #206 
  - So, your wife was on drugs and you took it out on your children. Nice.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-01-11 10:30 PM   #239 
  - That is what spanking is. Look it up in the dictionary.  DesMoinesDem   Jun-29-11 09:32 AM   #132 
  - What's hard about this?  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-28-11 05:09 PM   #23 
  - Yes, it would seem that simple.  The Doctor.   Jun-28-11 10:41 PM   #75 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-11 10:47 PM   #78 
        - Absolutely. Like it or not, two year olds need constant attention and stimulation...  Luminous Animal   Jun-28-11 11:40 PM   #96 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-11 11:49 PM   #104 
        - I have one child... my mother had three. She apologized for spanking me when  Luminous Animal   Jun-29-11 12:39 AM   #110 
           - You continue to assume too much.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 11:35 AM   #141 
           - Oh wow...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 12:20 PM   #144 
              - I'm sorry you were abused as a child.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 12:44 PM   #148 
                 - I'm not the one who claimed they were devil children  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 02:05 PM   #156 
                    - What's with you?  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 08:20 PM   #163 
                       - Your words  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:54 PM   #171 
           - I also find it very interesting...  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 01:29 PM   #154 
        - Do you sleep?  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 11:28 AM   #140 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-11 11:46 PM   #101 
        - And what that tells me about you  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 11:23 AM   #139 
  - I read the article and nowhere does it say the child was "badly bruised"  Matariki   Jun-28-11 09:27 PM   #36 
     - The hospital inferred something  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 09:45 PM   #42 
        - Really? Will you be kind enough to quote that?  Matariki   Jun-28-11 09:57 PM   #45 
           - Gladly.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:06 PM   #51 
           - "Red marks" does not equal "badly bruised"  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:12 PM   #54 
              - Yes. Red marks do not equal bruised. But that doesn't matter.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:15 PM   #55 
                 - quoting you:  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:18 PM   #57 
                    - Yes. Inferred something.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:22 PM   #60 
                       - You are reading things into the article that aren't there.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:29 PM   #64 
                          - Why do you keep bringing up bruises? I never said bruises.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:33 PM   #68 
                             - You're funny.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:35 PM   #69 
                                - Yes. I jumped in because I thought it was funny  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:39 PM   #72 
           - Oh, and for a bonus  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:07 PM   #52 
              - That was a different child.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:21 PM   #59 
  - I respectfully disagree. It's still called spanking when done to an adult. n/t  PoliticAverse   Jun-28-11 04:40 PM   #7 
  - And in the VIP room at D-lish it costs an extra fifty  NightWatcher   Jun-28-11 04:48 PM   #11 
     - Helga's House of Pain sometimes has a special. nt  Obamanaut   Jun-28-11 04:51 PM   #15 
     - you win the internet for today  AngryAmish   Jun-29-11 08:22 AM   #123 
  - Intent and degree have a lot to do with the definitions.  KittyWampus   Jun-28-11 04:43 PM   #8 
  - Of course some people go overboard with it and should be punished  WatsonT   Jun-28-11 04:43 PM   #9 
  - So, a child pays for the parent's inattention with a spanking?  notadmblnd   Jun-28-11 05:02 PM   #18 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-11 11:37 PM   #94 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-11 06:46 AM   #115 
     - Oh my God another 'Ms. Perfect'  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 11:45 AM   #142 
     - Wow...from this story it would appear that  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 07:53 AM   #118 
        - I'm really seeing self-righteousness bring out the ugly in people around here.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 12:30 PM   #145 
           - I'll tell you what...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 01:56 PM   #155 
              - I know you won't get this, but when someone like you, who knows nothing  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 08:52 PM   #167 
                 - I don't think I'm assuming anything, dear...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:35 PM   #170 
     - Yeah that's exactly it. At no point should parents attempt to teach right/wrong behavior to their  WatsonT   Jun-29-11 08:13 AM   #120 
        - Some people need parenting classes, I think...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:20 AM   #130 
           - I think if you look in to it you'll find there are many things that are OK  WatsonT   Jun-29-11 09:27 AM   #131 
              - So what's the age limit?  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:44 AM   #134 
                 - Someone with dementia cannot learn  WatsonT   Jun-29-11 10:03 AM   #136 
                    - OK, first...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 10:19 AM   #138 
  - If it was done to some adults it might be called "foreplay"  tularetom   Jun-28-11 04:48 PM   #10 
  - Any kind of striking, actually...  pipi_k   Jun-28-11 04:49 PM   #12 
  - Time out is good. But, when a child runs out into the street, immediate action  juajen   Jun-28-11 05:02 PM   #19 
  - So by the same token...  pipi_k   Jun-28-11 05:08 PM   #22 
  - good analogy.  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-28-11 05:29 PM   #27 
  - In both cases, I have yanked, never spanked.  lapislzi   Jun-29-11 12:33 PM   #146 
  - Again, blame the child for a parents neglect?  notadmblnd   Jun-28-11 05:26 PM   #25 
  - My two children, now 24 and 14,  mcar   Jun-28-11 05:52 PM   #31 
  - Thank you...there's a ridiculousness about spanking  pipi_k   Jun-28-11 05:56 PM   #32 
  - Well said.  Dappleganger   Jun-28-11 09:43 PM   #41 
  - As a note... hitting is absolutely OK...  Cid_B   Jun-28-11 10:39 PM   #73 
  - Yes. May have through fear of violence. So happy that I raised my child to behave without violence.  Luminous Animal   Jun-29-11 12:03 AM   #107 
  - That might be the smuggest (most smug??) post I've ever seen on DU  Cid_B   Jun-29-11 06:05 AM   #112 
     - How in the world do you correlate raising a child without violence TO INDUCE  Luminous Animal   Jun-29-11 12:43 PM   #147 
  - Hitting another human being is never OK  trumad   Jun-29-11 08:26 AM   #125 
  - +1000  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-29-11 02:28 PM   #159 
  - "I don't know many people who ... haven't spanked their children"  Bill McBlueState   Jun-28-11 10:24 PM   #61 
  - Bingo.  trumad   Jun-29-11 08:27 AM   #126 
  - My daughter is almost two and neither I or my wife have ever hit her.NT  Devil_Fish   Jun-28-11 11:32 PM   #92 
  - Nice. Keep it up and you will find that you will never "have" to. It is so easy to  Luminous Animal   Jun-28-11 11:58 PM   #106 
     - yes!  Bill McBlueState   Jun-29-11 09:18 AM   #129 
  - I never once abused my child. That is I never once hit my child. That is, I never once spanked my  Luminous Animal   Jun-28-11 11:45 PM   #100 
  - Wow... it's almost like you're a parent.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 12:32 AM   #109 
  - Really---so the crew you hang with spank their kids..  trumad   Jun-29-11 08:29 AM   #127 
  - sued, battery, or a good time  snooper2   Jul-01-11 11:53 AM   #211 
  - When done to an adult, its called sexxy time.  aikoaiko   Jun-28-11 04:56 PM   #16 
  - Wow, it's been a while since we wallowed in this topic.  gkhouston   Jun-28-11 05:01 PM   #17 
  - only if there is a new article regarding the OG  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-28-11 05:28 PM   #26 
  - I got beat with a belt, they called it 'spanking'.  Rex   Jun-28-11 05:03 PM   #20 
  - Yeah - same here.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 09:36 PM   #38 
  - I'm glad  JonLP24   Jun-28-11 05:07 PM   #21 
  - Spanking a child in Texas is only illegal when there is injury to the child.  Kaleva   Jun-28-11 05:16 PM   #24 
  - I have never had to do this...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-28-11 05:40 PM   #28 
  - If it involves only adults it could be called a good time :)  Marrah_G   Jun-28-11 05:45 PM   #30 
  - THIS. CHILD. HAD. BRUISES.  kath   Jun-28-11 09:18 PM   #34 
  - WHERE does it say the child had bruises?  Matariki   Jun-28-11 09:32 PM   #37 
  - The child had persistent red marks on her bottom - if it leaves persistent marks, it's abuse.  kath   Jun-28-11 10:39 PM   #74 
     - Oh no! Don't say bruises.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:48 PM   #79 
     - Where exactly does either article use the word "persistent"?  Matariki   Jun-29-11 12:58 AM   #111 
  - YOUR. 'FACTS'. ARE.NOT.IN.THE.OP. PERIOD. link????nt  kelly1mm   Jun-28-11 09:57 PM   #44 
  - OMG SHOUTING AHHHHH n/t  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 09:58 PM   #47 
     - Haha! I thought it was appropriate given the post I replied to. nt  kelly1mm   Jun-28-11 10:00 PM   #48 
  - Well, you're automatically wrong because  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:01 PM   #49 
     - Look, I think the Judge did the right thing  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:16 PM   #56 
        - Bruise. Red mark. Bruise. Red mark. Who cares?  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:18 PM   #58 
           - If you slap yourself somewhere fleshy it leaves a red mark.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:24 PM   #62 
              - Yes, you can know. SHe was taken to a hospital.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:28 PM   #63 
                 - Not if the grandmother didn't know what caused the marks.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:31 PM   #66 
                    - I know. Why does anyone go on a message board and dare form an opinion.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:37 PM   #70 
                       - You don't see the difference between forming an opinion and embellishing facts?  Matariki   Jun-28-11 10:44 PM   #76 
                          - But it wasn't filling in facts.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 10:46 PM   #77 
                             - Sigh.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:01 PM   #80 
                                - So we're just imagining that the judge ruled against her?  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:05 PM   #81 
                                - The ruling was for spanking her child - which isn't in question.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:13 PM   #82 
                                - Yes, which is why this discussion ridiculous to begin with.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:17 PM   #84 
                                - BTW - here's another article:  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:17 PM   #83 
                                   - What is your point?  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:19 PM   #86 
                                      - People's reading comprehension, if you'd like to know.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:23 PM   #87 
                                         - Argument as in case. What are you saying?  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:26 PM   #89 
                                            - Failure to communicate.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:38 PM   #95 
                                               - I'm sorry. It's just that this is a pet peeve of mine.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:43 PM   #97 
                                                  - Okay, well how about this -  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:48 PM   #103 
                                                  - Yes, but number one, that wasn't the article the other poster responded to  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:53 PM   #105 
                                                  - See, again with the reading thing.  Matariki   Jun-29-11 12:13 AM   #108 
                                - See my post #74, also "Corporal punishment that injures or leaves marks is excessive and considered  kath   Jun-28-11 11:18 PM   #85 
                                   - Again, I applaud the Judge's ruling. People shouldn't hit or spank kids, imo.  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:29 PM   #90 
                                      - People elaborate on what they read? Say it isn't so.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:32 PM   #93 
                                         - People often make "guesses" based on their own prejudices and preconceptions  Matariki   Jun-28-11 11:45 PM   #99 
                                            - IT's the internet. It's meant to be fun.  Pithlet   Jun-28-11 11:46 PM   #102 
  - The only thing a spanking does is make a parent feel superior.  Dappleganger   Jun-28-11 09:39 PM   #40 
  - Don't forget stress relief  MelungeonWoman   Jun-28-11 10:08 PM   #53 
     - yup.  Liberal_in_LA   Jun-29-11 02:27 PM   #158 
  - Every study done on corporal punishment has shown that it leads to aggression..  True Earthling   Jun-28-11 09:55 PM   #43 
  - Spanking is also linked to lower IQ. I wonder whether that is because parents  Liquorice   Jun-28-11 10:29 PM   #65 
  - I wonder what my IQ would have been without the beatings in that case.  hobbit709   Jun-29-11 06:11 AM   #113 
  - OFGS. There is no correlation.  WinkyDink   Jun-29-11 06:49 AM   #117 
     - OFGS? Is that a gut reaction or can you cite a study to back that up?  True Earthling   Jun-29-11 08:24 AM   #124 
     - There's a clear correlation. That was the whole point of the study. People get so irate  Liquorice   Jun-29-11 01:14 PM   #151 
        - Unfortunately, it's not 'science'.  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 11:46 AM   #209 
  - Hitting a child, no matter what you call it,  tpsbmam   Jun-29-11 02:29 PM   #160 
  - And every one of those studies is flawed. Heavily.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 01:13 AM   #172 
     - There are MANY, MANY studies which shows a correlation between corporal punishment  True Earthling   Jun-30-11 07:06 PM   #194 
        - Methodology... Bring It.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 09:54 PM   #199 
  - "... grandmother, who has custody ... took the girl to the local hospital ..."  struggle4progress   Jun-28-11 10:05 PM   #50 
  - I never hit my child and she is turning into a really great young lady.  stevenleser   Jun-28-11 11:44 PM   #98 
  - never hit my now 24 year old son either and he was a really rambunctious  cali   Jun-29-11 06:16 AM   #114 
  - Adults do get "spanked," some by paying.  WinkyDink   Jun-29-11 06:47 AM   #116 
  - Spanking a child means you don't have the  Le Taz Hot   Jun-29-11 08:21 AM   #122 
  - I'm sorry you were abused as a child.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 01:27 PM   #153 
     - How do you know those people are wonderful parents? Because they bill themselves as such? nt  Liquorice   Jun-29-11 08:29 PM   #165 
        - And there ya go...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 09:12 PM   #169 
  - Spaking Thread - Awesome  NeedleCast   Jun-29-11 08:34 AM   #128 
  - Meanwhile...  pipi_k   Jun-29-11 11:48 AM   #143 
  - Extra butter on mine please.  ceile   Jun-29-11 10:04 AM   #137 
  - Used to get Spanked by the CEO  One_Life_To_Give   Jun-29-11 01:09 PM   #149 
  - Never have I seen a thread so brimming with smug self-righteousness.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 01:22 PM   #152 
  - You know, not that long ago it was acceptable for a man to 'physically punish' his wife.  Matariki   Jun-29-11 04:20 PM   #162 
  - Pfft... Of all the false equivalencies, this is up there.  The Doctor.   Jun-29-11 08:44 PM   #166 
     - I disagree. Both are/were based on the idea of ownership and physical dominance.  Matariki   Jun-30-11 02:08 PM   #179 
        - So... somehow you think that totally ignoring the point is somehow effective?  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 02:42 PM   #186 
  - Yes, being against CHILD ABUSE is so horrible!  Odin2005   Jun-30-11 01:52 AM   #175 
     - No, it's not. Child abuse should not be tolerated.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 01:52 PM   #176 
        - 50 years ago beating schoolkids with paddles was considered an...  Odin2005   Jun-30-11 06:44 PM   #192 
           - Yes, and kids in high school are so much more well-behaved these days.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 09:34 PM   #197 
  - Wow. So many "Super Parents" in this thread!!  Darkhawk32   Jun-29-11 08:58 PM   #168 
  - You are just teaching your kids that violence is the answer to problems.  Odin2005   Jun-30-11 01:52 AM   #174 
  - Which is entirely bullshit.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 02:05 PM   #177 
  - Yeah, and what they learn about the consequences of their actions  pipi_k   Jun-30-11 02:16 PM   #181 
  - Right. Along with the idea that whoever is bigger and stronger gets to do what they want.  Matariki   Jun-30-11 02:06 PM   #178 
     - Right! Precisely!  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 02:29 PM   #183 
     - I'm very much left-leaning, but this is where a lot of left-leaners go overboard....  Darkhawk32   Jun-30-11 05:13 PM   #189 
     - BINGO! You get a cookie!  Odin2005   Jun-30-11 06:39 PM   #191 
  - I'm amazed at how well they turned out after being spanked as children.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 02:18 PM   #182 
  - So, was it the same line each time?  pipi_k   Jun-30-11 02:39 PM   #185 
     - He couldn't lock up the purse in a file cabinet or closet?  Manifestor_of_Light   Jul-02-11 11:52 PM   #251 
  - And in comes the 'if you don't spank then there is no discipline' brigade  laundry_queen   Jul-01-11 02:46 AM   #207 
     - I spank my kids every hour on the hour. /sigh  Darkhawk32   Jul-01-11 06:30 PM   #236 
  - Spanking is CHILD ABUSE, period!  Odin2005   Jun-30-11 01:37 AM   #173 
  - A swat on the bum is NOT child abuse; beating a two year black and blue IS. nt  Romulox   Jun-30-11 02:15 PM   #180 
  - Have to disagree with the judge on this one  Philippine expat   Jun-30-11 02:49 PM   #187 
  - Agree. n/t  Fire1   Jun-30-11 02:58 PM   #188 
  - Sure .... but you should know this ...  JoePhilly   Jun-30-11 05:30 PM   #190 
  - And that's about the size of it right there...  pipi_k   Jun-30-11 07:07 PM   #195 
  - Your reasoning applies to nearly all forms of discipline.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 09:16 PM   #196 
     - I don't know how other people deal with time out but it is not isolation.  Luminous Animal   Jun-30-11 09:52 PM   #198 
        - Yes, you and your parenting and your daughter were perfect. I get that.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 10:32 PM   #200 
        - Stranger danger is way overblown. The greatest danger to children is their own  Luminous Animal   Jun-30-11 10:52 PM   #201 
           - Right. There's nothing at all wrong with putting a 9 year old girl on a bus or subway alone.  The Doctor.   Jun-30-11 11:42 PM   #203 
           - Less danger than putting a 9 year old in a car.  Luminous Animal   Jul-01-11 01:05 AM   #204 
              - Seriously?  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 11:34 AM   #208 
                 - Kids in the city ride mass transit all the time. There are very few school buses  Luminous Animal   Jul-01-11 12:55 PM   #216 
                    - Where?  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 01:09 PM   #219 
                       - Schoool buses are not mandatory in San Francisco.  Luminous Animal   Jul-01-11 01:28 PM   #221 
                          - New York? Los Angeles? Seriously here.  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 03:09 PM   #226 
                             - San Francisco. It is right in the title. And yes, she did start community college when she was 13.  Luminous Animal   Jul-01-11 04:17 PM   #231 
                                - I didn't say otherwise. In fact, it was part of the point I made that you ignored.  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 04:46 PM   #232 
           - Exactly, and that was one of the mistakes I made  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 12:05 PM   #212 
        - You put a kid on a subway ALONE at age 9?  Drahthaardogs   Jul-01-11 03:28 PM   #228 
           - Well, whe was a student a Xavier's school for the gifted.  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 04:59 PM   #234 
              - Xavier's eh? So we found Jubilee's mom?  Drahthaardogs   Jul-01-11 05:55 PM   #235 
  - Why?  MouseFitzgerald   Jul-01-11 01:11 AM   #205 
     - Just wanted to make sure before I answered this  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 12:13 PM   #214 
     - They aren't.  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 01:18 PM   #220 
  - If your name is Deborah Lafave, you can spank 14 year old boys & they like it.  U4ikLefty   Jun-30-11 10:55 PM   #202 
  - I've been spanked - and have spanked another adult before..  snooper2   Jul-01-11 11:51 AM   #210 
  - Well at least...  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 12:07 PM   #213 
  - There was a saying... "If parents don't spank, the police will"  ecstatic   Jul-01-11 12:22 PM   #215 
  - That statement most likely coined  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 12:59 PM   #217 
  - I have three kids  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-01-11 01:09 PM   #218 
  - Just wondering...  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 01:39 PM   #222 
     - "Stop!"  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-01-11 01:59 PM   #223 
        - No, I understood exactly what you said  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 02:17 PM   #224 
           - The same way that a hot stove teaches "don't touch me"  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-01-11 02:59 PM   #225 
              - OK, but...  pipi_k   Jul-01-11 06:33 PM   #237 
              - Yes. This is exactly why that argument never made sense to me.  Pithlet   Jul-02-11 10:15 AM   #243 
                 - The more I think about it all, the more disturbing I find it...  pipi_k   Jul-02-11 10:49 AM   #244 
                    - Right. If spanking made the most sense in these danger scenarios  Pithlet   Jul-02-11 11:14 AM   #245 
                    - Right. If spanking made the most sense in these danger scenarios  Pithlet   Jul-02-11 11:14 AM   #246 
              - You aren't dealing with a parent .  The Doctor.   Jul-01-11 10:28 PM   #238 
                 - And Mommy Theresa and Father Knowsbest upthread aren't idealizing?  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-02-11 12:11 AM   #240 
                    - Setting boundaries...  pipi_k   Jul-02-11 11:55 AM   #247 
                       - Respecting boundaries is something adults are expected to do under penalty of law.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-02-11 02:17 PM   #249 
                          - Not always.  pipi_k   Jul-02-11 02:42 PM   #250 
  - I was never spanked , nor were any of my 3 kids,  frogmarch   Jul-01-11 03:16 PM   #227 
  - My exact same experience. Wasn't spanked, went to school where teachers spanked  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-01-11 03:29 PM   #229 
     - And yet boys school performance has declined in the last 30 years.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-02-11 10:10 AM   #242 
        - omg.  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-02-11 12:26 PM   #248 
  - ...unless the adult receiving it was wearing tight leather pants with a whole cut out in the butt.  zinnisking   Jul-01-11 04:49 PM   #233 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-02-11 09:50 AM   #241 

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