Exultant Democracy
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Mon Jun-27-11 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #81 |
| 87. Sorry you are wrong, by all accounts both violence and crime are dropping and the best predictor of |
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levels of violence in a society is the level of violent crime.
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| -With Extra Points for Rapes... |
kpete |
Jun-27-11 11:17 AM |
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Yeah, Tipper, we know. |
Lance_Boyle |
Jun-27-11 11:19 AM |
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delete wrong place |
woo me with science |
Jun-27-11 02:24 PM |
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Hey, we gotta program our next generation of Crusaders NOW |
ImNotTed |
Jun-27-11 11:20 AM |
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GET OFF MY LAWN! |
trumad |
Jun-27-11 11:21 AM |
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Aren't pretty much all video games violent? |
dkf |
Jun-27-11 11:24 AM |
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The Sims is not violent |
thecrow |
Jun-27-11 12:58 PM |
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Actually, The Sims is legendary for the sorts of imaginative cruelty you can inflict. |
cemaphonic |
Jun-27-11 01:45 PM |
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You can unleash tornadoes, fires, volcanoes ... or ... my kids like Zoo Tycoon for shear mayhem ... |
JoePhilly |
Jun-27-11 02:56 PM |
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You don't need hacks - the Sims has always had violence built in |
saras |
Jun-27-11 03:12 PM |
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Not violent? |
Codeine |
Jun-27-11 03:23 PM |
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Jun-27-11 11:28 AM |
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Yeah, very misleading header |
cemaphonic |
Jun-27-11 12:55 PM |
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I have to hold my nose and agree with the Supremes. |
MADem |
Jun-27-11 11:29 AM |
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The industry is fairly self-regulating anyway. |
cemaphonic |
Jun-27-11 12:53 PM |
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It makes for good lectern-pounding, poutraged legislative drama, though |
MADem |
Jun-27-11 12:59 PM |
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As all the studies have shown... |
Bladian |
Jun-27-11 11:30 AM |
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Please show me one study... n/t |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 01:45 PM |
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Do a google search |
Ohio Joe |
Jun-27-11 05:31 PM |
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i would like parents to do their job, but we cant regulate that, either. nt |
seabeyond |
Jun-27-11 11:33 AM |
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First they took my games, then they took Spongebob.. |
snooper2 |
Jun-27-11 11:34 AM |
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Good |
NeedleCast |
Jun-27-11 11:37 AM |
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+1. |
Morning Dew |
Jun-27-11 11:40 AM |
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+1 nt |
woo me with science |
Jun-27-11 02:25 PM |
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Communication should be protected as free speech, however... |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 11:38 AM |
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Because they aren't harmful n/t |
Bladian |
Jun-27-11 11:42 AM |
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Really? A new study in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology... |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 11:48 AM |
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Sorry I don't buy this study. We have been doing the same experiment on a far larger scale |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 12:13 PM |
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There are MANY possible reason why crime rates have fallen... |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 02:17 PM |
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Once you admit that crime/violence is dropping the logic of your argument falls apart |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 02:55 PM |
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I mentioned 3 reasons the crime rate is falling. |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 03:19 PM |
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I know you had 3, but one was absurd, and one you can't do anything about. |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 03:49 PM |
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Your study was on porn... not the same as violent video games |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 04:20 PM |
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Ok one last study, |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 04:37 PM |
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Jun-27-11 05:39 PM |
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Violent crime rates are one of the best predictors of violence. A violent crime goes up so does |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 06:10 PM |
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LOL! Violence in society doesn't always manifest in criminal activity. Bullying, for instance. |
KittyWampus |
Jun-27-11 06:11 PM |
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Apparently my post when right over your head. Yes two different things are being measured |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 06:52 PM |
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If the rate of violent crime is falling while the rate of violent video game playing... |
Silent3 |
Jun-27-11 03:07 PM |
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Studies show an increase in violent and aggressive behavior |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 03:32 PM |
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What kind of "physical aggression" are we talking about here? |
Silent3 |
Jun-27-11 05:37 PM |
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Reducing rape with an eraser |
seabeyond |
Jun-27-11 03:41 PM |
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You cannot simply use violent crime as a metric. Violence in society can manifest in many ways that |
KittyWampus |
Jun-27-11 05:36 PM |
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Sorry you are wrong, by all accounts both violence and crime are dropping and the best predictor of |
Exultant Democracy |
Jun-27-11 06:04 PM |
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No, you are wrong. It's a simple FACT. Violence can manifest in society irregardless |
KittyWampus |
Jun-27-11 06:13 PM |
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It should say they are desensitized to *simulated* violence. |
immoderate |
Jun-27-11 01:59 PM |
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the subconscious mind does not make a distinction between real and fake. |
KittyWampus |
Jun-27-11 05:37 PM |
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That's precisely where sensory data is filtered. |
immoderate |
Jun-27-11 08:28 PM |
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Common sense would certainly seem otherwise. |
Desertrose |
Jun-27-11 11:52 AM |
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Even if the violence is so gratuitous as to be obviously fake? |
Bladian |
Jun-27-11 02:20 PM |
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Images can evoke emotions.. fake ones too |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 02:39 PM |
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Doom 1 vs. Doom 3 study... |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 02:57 PM |
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Sure adults know it's fake...kids....maybe not so much. |
Desertrose |
Jun-27-11 05:25 PM |
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It depnds on engine |
JonLP24 |
Jun-27-11 05:46 PM |
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Because I can't agree to a patent untruth. |
Codeine |
Jun-27-11 11:47 AM |
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The Dark Lord told you to say that, didn't he. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-27-11 11:51 AM |
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I'm casting Magic Missile at you SO HARD right now. nt |
Codeine |
Jun-27-11 11:52 AM |
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25th level is so 2nd edition |
NeedleCast |
Jun-27-11 01:51 PM |
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Is that anecdotal evidence or can you cite a scientific study to back up your claim.. |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 11:57 AM |
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Correllation is not causation. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-27-11 12:11 PM |
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"regular gamers had less frontal lobe beta brainwave activity" |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 01:44 PM |
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A very poorty written article, which proves nothing one way or another. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-27-11 02:47 PM |
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Mori was a poor example. I found some skeptical articles... |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 03:09 PM |
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Years ago I played Doom and Wolfenstein. I'm not sure if that counts - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-27-11 03:56 PM |
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Columbine Massacre teens were heavy into violent video games |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 02:00 PM |
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Isolated incident. |
Bladian |
Jun-27-11 02:17 PM |
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One incident... but you have to look at the totality of the evidence.. |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 02:32 PM |
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They also smoked marijuana |
jberryhill |
Jun-27-11 03:27 PM |
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There are no studies that show any link to violent behavior from smoking pot |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 03:34 PM |
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I'll bet most serial killers drank Coca-Cola |
jberryhill |
Jun-27-11 03:39 PM |
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More ridiculous statements.... |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 03:45 PM |
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Columbine Massacre - 4 / 20 |
jberryhill |
Jun-27-11 06:57 PM |
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Oh god. Not this again. |
chrisa |
Jun-27-11 04:59 PM |
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And Charles Manson listened to the Beatles! |
jberryhill |
Jun-27-11 07:18 PM |
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As the Dude says... |
Rebubula |
Jun-27-11 11:53 AM |
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Sigh... |
Cid_B |
Jun-27-11 01:05 PM |
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Exactly. Six smarty nerdy kids gathered 'round a table |
Codeine |
Jun-27-11 01:17 PM |
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It's the naughty kind apparantly... |
Cid_B |
Jun-27-11 01:27 PM |
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I said "violent images" and it depends on the context. |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 05:21 PM |
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This line right here |
Lordquinton |
Jun-27-11 09:43 PM |
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The Supreme court ruled it was legal to sell violent video games to children |
True Earthling |
Jun-27-11 09:58 PM |
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More specifically |
JonLP24 |
Jun-28-11 02:04 PM |
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Incorrect |
Lordquinton |
Jun-28-11 10:27 PM |
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Boobs are not communications either. |
RC |
Jun-27-11 02:08 PM |
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no. it is always putting a woman out there as a stipper, prostitute, whore..... |
seabeyond |
Jun-27-11 03:47 PM |
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Or maybe I don't think as narrowly as you. |
RC |
Jun-27-11 04:02 PM |
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yes. degrading women for your entertainment is so openminded of you. nt |
seabeyond |
Jun-27-11 04:05 PM |
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yeah, like in TOMB RAIDER!!! |
zappaman |
Jun-27-11 07:24 PM |
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Most of us know video games aren't real. |
Lucian |
Jun-28-11 01:46 PM |
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This is the same Supreme Court (mostly) that we hate for Citizens United and Bush v Gore, right? |
Electric Monk |
Jun-27-11 12:14 PM |
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"first they came for my BFG9000" |
meow mix |
Jun-27-11 02:19 PM |
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Have you played a video game a day in your life? |
Ninjaneer |
Jun-27-11 02:39 PM |
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I think it's a reference to a game called RapeLay, released in 2006 |
Electric Monk |
Jun-27-11 02:47 PM |
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That sounds like a stupid game, but really, it's not even mainstream. |
chrisa |
Jun-27-11 05:02 PM |
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If the 1st amendment doesn't protect offensive speech, including RapeLay, then it is useless. |
glen123098 |
Jun-27-11 03:20 PM |
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I guess parents will have to be responsible |
rucky |
Jun-27-11 03:44 PM |
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Ironically, this is the only right the SCOTUS has ever given kids... |
joeybee12 |
Jun-27-11 03:45 PM |
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thanks for making my point for me... |
kpete |
Jun-27-11 07:54 PM |
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+++++ |
marions ghost |
Jun-27-11 08:03 PM |
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Those "Postal" games are pretty stupid. GTA is much better. |
chrisa |
Jun-27-11 04:52 PM |
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I dunno 'bout this one. |
Motown_Johnny |
Jun-27-11 05:02 PM |
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The vast majority of children who commit violent crimes have played violent video games |
WatsonT |
Jun-27-11 05:27 PM |
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The Supreme Court got something right. |
Chisox08 |
Jun-27-11 05:29 PM |
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Talking of free speech, why doesn't the game industry make a banker-shoot simulation? |
entanglement |
Jun-27-11 05:44 PM |
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I'm sure there is a flash shooter out there... |
Cid_B |
Jun-27-11 08:09 PM |
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It's Scalia's call and is still controversial in SCOTUS |
marions ghost |
Jun-27-11 08:17 PM |
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I've been playing Siren: Blood Curse. It's awesome. |
ZombieHorde |
Jun-27-11 10:00 PM |
#102 |
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