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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:57 PM
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31. The update is at the FDL link!!!
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 07:08 PM by slipslidingaway
not sure when the update was added, but the Huff Post piece was posted later in the evening and original FDL piece posted before noon.

And do cuts to providers trickle down to beneficiaries, one has to wonder.

:shrug:


"No one has fought harder than Chairman Baucus against the House proposal to that would end Medicare as we know it and increase costs for seniors by thousands of dollars," a Senate Finance Committee aide emailed The Huffington Post. "Senator Baucus continues to fight for Medicare and made clear at the hearing that no changes in Medicare will be made unless Republicans agree to use revenue – in addition to spending reductions – to reduce the deficit, and any Medicare changes or savings would build on the type of efficiencies made in the Affordable Care Act, while protecting guaranteed benefits for seniors."

While such an explanation won't likely be enough to calm the nerves of inherently anxious progressives, the idea that lawmakers will build on the "efficiencies of the Affordable Care Act" is a notable tell. During the crafting of that legislation, Democrats had tried to lower the type of payments that Medicare makes to medical device manufacturers. They got fairly close to doing so, only to be told by now-former Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) that he would oppose the bill if it cut too deep. Desperate for 60 votes, it was an easy tradeoff to make. The language was dropped and Bayh, whose state houses many of those medical device manufacturers, became a yes vote.

Bayh is now gone from the Senate, and Democrats, eager to find some way to get Republicans to sign off on additional revenues, are now looking to trade in that chip. As one plugged in operative predicted: "There will be cuts on the provider side but not on the beneficiary side."

A second Senate source confirmed that cuts to Medicare providers were indeed being discussed as a tradeoff for revenue-raisers elsewhere. The source added that lawmakers would be looking beyond just medical device manufacturers, toward the hospital and prescription drug industries as well.

"We've been very careful distinguishing between cuts to Medicare beneficiaries and cuts to Medicare providers," the source said..."




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  - and cutting it will do no good  fascisthunter   Jun-23-11 05:39 PM   #1 
  - Here here.  glinda   Jun-23-11 05:42 PM   #5 
  - No, I'm not going to, so don't ask again.  Uben   Jun-23-11 05:44 PM   #6 
  - Pig squeal!  nineteen50   Jun-23-11 05:47 PM   #9 
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  - the bogus debt issue:  amborin   Jun-23-11 05:40 PM   #3 
  - Thank You For That !!!  WillyT   Jun-23-11 05:45 PM   #7 
  - +1  mmonk   Jun-23-11 05:48 PM   #10 
  - Kicking your Post  fascisthunter   Jun-23-11 05:48 PM   #11 
  - Kohn's comments on Debt to Income ratio are ridiculous.  PoliticAverse   Jun-23-11 06:01 PM   #18 
  - Debt to income?  Igel   Jun-23-11 07:33 PM   #35 
  - How about this...  high density   Jun-23-11 05:40 PM   #4 
  - I think we should cut Medicare costs  pnwmom   Jun-23-11 05:47 PM   #8 
  - Me too.  mmonk   Jun-23-11 05:51 PM   #14 
  - So we're basically subsidizing the world's drug costs. n/t  pnwmom   Jun-23-11 05:53 PM   #15 
  - We're the "free market" for the Pharmaceutical industry.  mmonk   Jun-23-11 06:11 PM   #20 
  - In our refrigerator ...  slipslidingaway   Jun-23-11 07:21 PM   #34 
  - Remember when Obama put out a campaign ad entitleled "Billy"  slipslidingaway   Jun-23-11 07:02 PM   #32 
  - This deal will mark the Official Date of Decease for the Democratic Party  kenny blankenship   Jun-23-11 05:50 PM   #12 
  - yup... a minority of conservative bastards  fascisthunter   Jun-23-11 05:54 PM   #16 
  - I'll wait for a reliable source.  johnaries   Jun-23-11 05:51 PM   #13 
  - Aw Jeez...  WillyT   Jun-23-11 05:58 PM   #17 
  - Is your google broken?  Luminous Animal   Jun-23-11 06:32 PM   #25 
  - All they had to do to let the 'Bush tax cuts' expire was do nothing...  PoliticAverse   Jun-23-11 06:05 PM   #19 
  - Maybe they could get Cantor to come back if they offer  Jackpine Radical   Jun-23-11 06:15 PM   #21 
  - Baucus should retire. nt  Zorra   Jun-23-11 06:18 PM   #22 
  - Sam Stein already reported that the cuts Baucus was referring to were NOT cuts to benefits. Rather,  BzaDem   Jun-23-11 06:21 PM   #23 
  - "...they were cuts to providers..."  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-23-11 06:37 PM   #27 
     - Even Kucinich and Sanders didn't have a problem with the cuts in HCR. It is literally impossible to  BzaDem   Jun-23-11 06:39 PM   #28 
        - Medicare was a major reason to allow discussion of a national HC plan ...  slipslidingaway   Jun-23-11 07:06 PM   #33 
  - There's a rather important update at the end of the article.  bornskeptic   Jun-23-11 06:31 PM   #24 
     - Then comes the question: will the OP mention this?  BzaDem   Jun-23-11 06:35 PM   #26 
     - Sure... It Either Wasn't There When I Posted, Or I Missed It...  WillyT   Jun-23-11 06:46 PM   #30 
     - I'm sure Firedoglake will issue a retraction. Not. nt  sufrommich   Jun-23-11 06:42 PM   #29 
        - The update is at the FDL link!!!  slipslidingaway   Jun-23-11 06:57 PM   #31 
 

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