Reply #40: I'm not interested in failures and collapses, I'm afraid.

[MineralMan]

The fall of a society is not a good I'm interested in pursuing. It's not actually a good at all.

There are those who believe that a collapse is needed before something new can be built. All too often, though, they forget about that period between the collapse and the rebuilding, when people starve and people die and people kill each other over bread. History is important to learn and to understand. The collapse of a society may result in improvement, but it more often results in utter devastation. I believe you should review history and look at societies that have collapsed before wishing that on your neighbors in this country. It's not a solution. For many of them, it would be an end, a fatal end.

I'm into solutions that provide the most benefit for the most people. There isn't a perfect social structure or government. Never has been, and never will be. So, the society that provides the most benefit for the most people is likely to be the most stable society. We haven't gone far enough away from that to engender the sort of uprising you're envisioning. If we had, and such a thing occurred, you would not live to see the rebuilding. It would take just that long.

Sorry. That's how I see it.