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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 02:36 PM
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5. Where have I heard of "Separate but equal" before?
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  -Sam Stein (HuffPo): Obama Believes Gay Marriage 'Best Addressed By The States': WH Official markpkessinger  Jun-21-11 02:27 PM   #0 
  - Making the tough decision, as usual. The buck stops...somewhere else. n/t  Crankie Avalon   Jun-21-11 02:30 PM   #1 
  - indeed. nt  xchrom   Jun-21-11 02:30 PM   #2 
  - Can you imagine Obama as president if civil rights had been handled this way?  me b zola   Jun-21-11 02:31 PM   #3 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-21-11 02:45 PM   #13 
  - Uh, you can't have equal protection with unequal laws  gratuitous   Jun-21-11 02:33 PM   #4 
  - Where have I heard of "Separate but equal" before?  WinkyDink   Jun-21-11 02:36 PM   #5 
  - Forget "best," same-sex marriage is necessarily addressed by states.  Unvanguard   Jun-21-11 02:37 PM   #6 
  - A bold and courageous decision by the President  Angry Dragon   Jun-21-11 02:38 PM   #7 
  - Way to take a stand, Mr. President!  City Lights   Jun-21-11 02:40 PM   #8 
  - I think this line from the article pretty well sums it up ...  markpkessinger   Jun-21-11 02:42 PM   #10 
  - States fucking Rights!!???  Vanje   Jun-21-11 02:41 PM   #9 
  - Not on our side.  FiveGoodMen   Jun-21-11 02:44 PM   #11 
  - Not on ANY side  Doctor_J   Jun-21-11 02:51 PM   #17 
     - Wall street is doing just fine. And I don't think it's an accident. This president has taken sides  no limit   Jun-21-11 03:07 PM   #29 
  - Should we leave everyone's rights up to the State, or just gays  fascisthunter   Jun-21-11 02:45 PM   #12 
  - Craven weasel. n/t  gkhouston   Jun-21-11 02:46 PM   #14 
  - Get your fierce advocacy while it's hot!  Ignis   Jun-21-11 02:47 PM   #15 
  - Wow  Doctor_J   Jun-21-11 02:51 PM   #16 
  - agree...i`m going to help the democrat who`s running for the house  madrchsod   Jun-21-11 02:53 PM   #19 
     - Yes, he's decided to take what he can get from us, and scrape together  Doctor_J   Jun-21-11 03:00 PM   #22 
  - Only grist for the "states-rights" mills  SoCalDem   Jun-21-11 02:52 PM   #18 
  - Now that's some fierce advocacy.  myrna minx   Jun-21-11 02:53 PM   #20 
  - Anyone who says that civil rights should be left up to the states is not a democrat.  Dappleganger   Jun-21-11 02:54 PM   #21 
  - Saddly you will find this is the position of the democratic establishment  no limit   Jun-21-11 03:09 PM   #32 
  - Even so, SCOTUS will decide.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 03:02 PM   #23 
  - The Repubs are blocking his nominees for this reason and so many others  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 03:04 PM   #27 
     - I can only agree.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 03:08 PM   #30 
     - And when Bush got his 144 he wasn't happy, he was going to shut down the entire senate  no limit   Jun-21-11 03:08 PM   #31 
        - The silent acquiescence is hard to understand. I don't get it.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 03:14 PM   #35 
        - I remember the whole filibuster threat about this too. nt  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 03:14 PM   #36 
  - Deleted  Doctor_J   Jun-21-11 03:02 PM   #24 
  - Careful, you could get deleted for calling out another member. nt  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 03:02 PM   #26 
     - yeah, I thought of that after I posted  Doctor_J   Jun-21-11 03:05 PM   #28 
  - I'm gonna have to hold my nose to vote for him again.  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 03:02 PM   #25 
  - I think a lot of us will hold our nose, but I sure hope we vote! n/t  JAnthony   Jun-21-11 04:13 PM   #69 
  - I suspect his position will further 'evolve' after the 2012 election. n/t  PoliticAverse   Jun-21-11 03:10 PM   #33 
  - Funny, this was Howard Dean's position. Howard Dean- the darling of DU.  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 03:10 PM   #34 
  - What exactly is your point?  no limit   Jun-21-11 03:29 PM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-21-11 03:44 PM   #52 
     - So are you upset over Obama's position on this or no?  no limit   Jun-21-11 03:45 PM   #53 
     - No. Here's something for you-Obamas Views on Gay Marriage Evolving  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 04:01 PM   #61 
        - So you think gay rights should be up to the states? Was the civil rights act wrong then?  no limit   Jun-21-11 05:47 PM   #89 
        - Then you do NOT BELIEVE IN EQUALITY  dbackjon   Jun-21-11 06:28 PM   #92 
     - Nice try at a diversion, but we're talking about the here and  TriMera   Jun-21-11 03:49 PM   #57 
        - Obamas Views on Gay Marriage Evolving- from the NYTimes story HuffP. ripped off  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 04:05 PM   #65 
  - What's his position now? I'll tell ya, he's completely evolved  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 03:34 PM   #40 
  - Aw, so he's "evolved". How nice. Easy to do when you're not actually IN elected politics anymore.  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 03:42 PM   #49 
  - Your subject line is the problem  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 09:09 PM   #93 
  - Obamas Views on Gay Marriage Evolving- from NYTimes article HuffP. ripped off  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 04:02 PM   #63 
  - making excuses for him?  bowens43   Jun-21-11 03:40 PM   #47 
     - LOL!  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 03:42 PM   # 
  - Bloomberg could teach him a thing or two  tomm2thumbs   Jun-21-11 03:31 PM   #38 
  - I would point out that Bloomberg is advocating for state law.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 03:35 PM   #42 
     - Advocating for a state law is not the same thing ...  markpkessinger   Jun-21-11 03:56 PM   #58 
        - I just think we're focusing on the wrong issue at the national level.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 04:02 PM   #62 
           - I think the video at the article link was quite informative  tomm2thumbs   Jun-21-11 04:11 PM   #67 
              - Yea, there is that.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 04:27 PM   #75 
  - ((facepalm))  Taverner   Jun-21-11 03:33 PM   #39 
  - "Buchanan Believes Slavery 'Best Addressed By The States' WH Official  Taverner   Jun-21-11 03:34 PM   #41 
  - +1000! nt  Vanje   Jun-21-11 03:37 PM   #43 
  - makes smart sense to me  tomm2thumbs   Jun-21-11 03:39 PM   #45 
  - Cop out-in-chief does it again....................  bowens43   Jun-21-11 03:39 PM   #44 
  - What a crock of shit! Not unexpected, but shit nonetheless.  Behind the Aegis   Jun-21-11 03:40 PM   #46 
  - and a history book. n/t  TriMera   Jun-21-11 03:43 PM   #51 
  - What a fucking coward. Business as usual.  Horse with no Name   Jun-21-11 03:42 PM   #48 
  - Pathetic.  Withywindle   Jun-21-11 03:43 PM   #50 
  - The fierce urgency of whenever it is politically expedient! n/t  markpkessinger   Jun-21-11 03:46 PM   #54 
  - That doesn't really square with the "full faih & credit" clause  hifiguy   Jun-21-11 03:47 PM   #55 
  - Isn't this pretty much what he said during the primaries? nt  sufrommich   Jun-21-11 03:49 PM   #56 
  - A Profile in Courage-iness  Canuckistanian   Jun-21-11 03:58 PM   #59 
  - Quite the  theaocp   Jun-21-11 03:59 PM   #60 
  - What about the cousin-fucking states?  Behind the Aegis   Jun-21-11 04:04 PM   #64 
  - Funny, HuffPost ripped off NYTimes article that shows Obama looking TO SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 04:09 PM   #66 
  - Sounds a lot like ...  markpkessinger   Jun-21-11 04:14 PM   #70 
  - Why are you spamming the thread with this? You've made your  TriMera   Jun-21-11 04:14 PM   #71 
     - No, actually that isn't the point. The POINT is Obama is looking to support Same Sex Marriage.  KittyWampus   Jun-21-11 04:17 PM   #72 
        - Then he should just come out and support it. After all,  TriMera   Jun-21-11 04:27 PM   #76 
        - I hope those hostage negotiators free him soon!  EFerrari   Jun-21-11 04:50 PM   #84 
        - He's looking to support it?  City Lights   Jun-21-11 04:53 PM   #85 
  - The federal government has ALWAYS left the definition of  mysuzuki2   Jun-21-11 04:12 PM   #68 
  - DOMA did set a precedent, didn't it?  LiberalAndProud   Jun-21-11 04:42 PM   #79 
  - He wouldn't want to lose a vote from  Scottybeamer70   Jun-21-11 04:18 PM   #73 
  - Yeah... Because Civil Rights Should Always Be Left Up To The States...  WillyT   Jun-21-11 04:20 PM   #74 
  - It seems to me that anyone who says that this is a  TriMera   Jun-21-11 04:33 PM   #77 
  - States' rights?  mmonk   Jun-21-11 04:40 PM   #78 
  - Well at least we can see how he "evolved" on the issue.  Bluebear   Jun-21-11 04:44 PM   #81 
  - He is a constitutional scholar. He knows exactly what he  TriMera   Jun-21-11 04:48 PM   #82 
  - States' rights -- from the nation's first black president.  Bluebear   Jun-21-11 04:43 PM   #80 
  - Gross.  EFerrari   Jun-21-11 04:49 PM   #83 
  - So being black means one can never advocate anything is the province of a state?  treestar   Jun-21-11 04:53 PM   #86 
  - if, say, Alabama , enacted a ban on bi-racial marriage ,  Vanje   Jun-21-11 05:00 PM   #87 
     - Of course not.  treestar   Jun-21-11 05:37 PM   #88 
        - Me?  Vanje   Jun-21-11 06:01 PM   #90 
  - many thought they were getting a Frederick Douglass, instead they got a Stephen nt  MisterP   Jun-21-11 06:22 PM   #91 

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