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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. While false allegations may be bad and hurt one's feelings, injury has to be proved.
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  -False allegation of homosexuality is defamatory, judge rules ccharles000  Jun-20-11 03:17 PM   #0 
  - How does one prove they are not gay??  Angry Dragon   Jun-20-11 03:22 PM   #1 
  - By performing oral sex before the jury? n/t  Ian David   Jun-20-11 03:24 PM   #3 
  - Not sure that always matters in defamation.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 03:28 PM   #6 
  - One cannot "prove" a negative. It's up to the alleger to prove they ARE.  kestrel91316   Jun-20-11 03:41 PM   #14 
  - I'm not sure how I feel about this.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 03:24 PM   #2 
  - Would you feel it was derogatory if someone represented you as straight  Common Sense Party   Jun-20-11 03:25 PM   #4 
  - Personally, I'd laugh and ask if the person representing me as straight  justiceischeap   Jun-20-11 03:29 PM   #7 
  - There is no social stigma attached to being straight.  Ian David   Jun-20-11 03:31 PM   #8 
  - My neighbor lived that life for years so it does exist..  Angry Dragon   Jun-20-11 03:35 PM   #11 
     - Seriously? How? Why? It sounds like the plot for a dramatic comedy by Alan Sorkin. n/t  Ian David   Jun-20-11 08:42 PM   #30 
        - Many men and women live lives that match 'normal' society  Angry Dragon   Jun-20-11 09:18 PM   #31 
           - You mean it was a guy pretending to be gay who was really straight?  Ian David   Jun-20-11 10:02 PM   #32 
              - I must have misread what you were talking about.........  Angry Dragon   Jun-20-11 10:26 PM   #35 
  - Happens all the time.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 03:31 PM   #9 
     - If a false allegation of heterosexuality is non-actionable, then why is a false allegation of gaynes  closeupready   Jun-20-11 03:35 PM   #10 
        - Sometimes I'm a little dense and need things spelled out for me - as you did in your post.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 03:39 PM   #12 
           - And that's a good counterpoint that I hadn't thought of.  closeupready   Jun-20-11 03:42 PM   #16 
           - I only mentioned FEEL because YOU mentioned FEEL  Common Sense Party   Jun-20-11 05:39 PM   #27 
              - Perhaps I could have been more clear.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 07:08 PM   #29 
  - Yep, this is definitely one of the mixed bag issues.  Silent3   Jun-20-11 03:40 PM   #13 
     - Wouldn't there have to be a societal stigma attached to be defamatory?  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 03:47 PM   #18 
        - I think you can claim defamation if negative effects ensue...  Silent3   Jun-20-11 04:04 PM   #21 
  - If I am not mistaken, if the defendant can demonstrate that she had good reason to believe she was..  Ian David   Jun-20-11 03:27 PM   #5 
  - Before getting outraged, or not, I am going to defer to the LGBT community.  kestrel91316   Jun-20-11 03:42 PM   #15 
  - Me too. And I'm gay - LOL  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 03:48 PM   #19 
  - Obviously it's insulting to the LGBT*.* community  justiceischeap   Jun-20-11 03:51 PM   #20 
     - Is it the judge's ruling that is insulting? Or the false allegation of being gay?  kestrel91316   Jun-20-11 05:52 PM   #28 
        - For me what is insulting is being referred to as gay is slanderous  justiceischeap   Jun-21-11 10:52 AM   #41 
           - Yep. Not only slanderous, but "per se" slanderous which groups us in with...  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-21-11 11:50 AM   #43 
  - I agree with this because the intention was to cause problems for the person being accused.  phleshdef   Jun-20-11 03:44 PM   #17 
  - I think you are correct. but almost no one on the thread gets that.  JoePhilly   Jun-21-11 05:15 PM   #50 
  - Could this help  YankeyMCC   Jun-20-11 04:04 PM   #22 
  - As likewise should be false allegations of heterosexuality.  damntexdem   Jun-20-11 04:07 PM   #23 
  - While false allegations may be bad and hurt one's feelings, injury has to be proved.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 04:16 PM   #24 
  - Why do we even have the labels  humbled_opinion   Jun-20-11 04:54 PM   #25 
  - Good lord, where to start with this fail.  Chovexani   Jun-21-11 12:33 PM   #45 
  - LOL...  humbled_opinion   Jun-21-11 04:23 PM   #47 
  - masturbation has nothing to do with being attracted to yourself (okay there may be a few...  yawnmaster   Jun-21-11 12:58 PM   #46 
     - My premise is not false  humbled_opinion   Jun-21-11 05:05 PM   #49 
        - Saying a premise is logic as an argument to its validity is circular and itself illogical  yawnmaster   Jun-21-11 07:53 PM   #51 
  - Ehh...  chrisa   Jun-20-11 04:59 PM   #26 
  - +! nt  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-20-11 10:07 PM   #33 
  - Thank you, for your expert analysis, Melvin Beli.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 10:56 PM   #36 
  - a couple of things  dsc   Jun-20-11 10:20 PM   #34 
  - I don't think one has to prove damage in a "per se" defamation case.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 11:16 PM   #37 
     - yeah that is what I meant  dsc   Jun-20-11 11:20 PM   #38 
        - Not to argue the point too much, but I think the fact the case is in NY...  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-20-11 11:30 PM   #39 
  - I guess I'm reading the ruling as not defamatory against 'gay' per se  Sheepshank   Jun-20-11 11:36 PM   #40 
  - Will this apply to minors?  Sabriel   Jun-21-11 11:22 AM   #42 
  - Sure. It always has.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-21-11 12:09 PM   #44 
  - OTOH if you get accused falsely of the same thing three times, that's a "freebie"  slackmaster   Jun-21-11 04:24 PM   #48 

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