Hassin Bin Sober
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Mon Jun-20-11 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 12. Sometimes I'm a little dense and need things spelled out for me - as you did in your post. |
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 03:42 PM by Hassin Bin Sober
The other poster asked how I would FEEL. That has no bearing in law so I was confused.
Now YOU mentioned "actionable".
To YOUR point: Because people are discriminated against LEGALLY in half the states in the union for being gay - and discriminated against ILLEGALLY in the rest.
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| -False allegation of homosexuality is defamatory, judge rules |
ccharles000 |
Jun-20-11 03:17 PM |
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How does one prove they are not gay?? |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-20-11 03:22 PM |
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By performing oral sex before the jury? n/t |
Ian David |
Jun-20-11 03:24 PM |
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Not sure that always matters in defamation. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 03:28 PM |
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One cannot "prove" a negative. It's up to the alleger to prove they ARE. |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-20-11 03:41 PM |
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 03:24 PM |
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Would you feel it was derogatory if someone represented you as straight |
Common Sense Party |
Jun-20-11 03:25 PM |
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Personally, I'd laugh and ask if the person representing me as straight |
justiceischeap |
Jun-20-11 03:29 PM |
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There is no social stigma attached to being straight. |
Ian David |
Jun-20-11 03:31 PM |
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My neighbor lived that life for years so it does exist.. |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-20-11 03:35 PM |
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Seriously? How? Why? It sounds like the plot for a dramatic comedy by Alan Sorkin. n/t |
Ian David |
Jun-20-11 08:42 PM |
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Many men and women live lives that match 'normal' society |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-20-11 09:18 PM |
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You mean it was a guy pretending to be gay who was really straight? |
Ian David |
Jun-20-11 10:02 PM |
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I must have misread what you were talking about......... |
Angry Dragon |
Jun-20-11 10:26 PM |
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Happens all the time. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 03:31 PM |
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If a false allegation of heterosexuality is non-actionable, then why is a false allegation of gaynes |
closeupready |
Jun-20-11 03:35 PM |
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Sometimes I'm a little dense and need things spelled out for me - as you did in your post. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 03:39 PM |
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And that's a good counterpoint that I hadn't thought of. |
closeupready |
Jun-20-11 03:42 PM |
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I only mentioned FEEL because YOU mentioned FEEL |
Common Sense Party |
Jun-20-11 05:39 PM |
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Perhaps I could have been more clear. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 07:08 PM |
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Yep, this is definitely one of the mixed bag issues. |
Silent3 |
Jun-20-11 03:40 PM |
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Wouldn't there have to be a societal stigma attached to be defamatory? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 03:47 PM |
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I think you can claim defamation if negative effects ensue... |
Silent3 |
Jun-20-11 04:04 PM |
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If I am not mistaken, if the defendant can demonstrate that she had good reason to believe she was.. |
Ian David |
Jun-20-11 03:27 PM |
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Before getting outraged, or not, I am going to defer to the LGBT community. |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-20-11 03:42 PM |
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Me too. And I'm gay - LOL |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 03:48 PM |
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Obviously it's insulting to the LGBT*.* community |
justiceischeap |
Jun-20-11 03:51 PM |
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Is it the judge's ruling that is insulting? Or the false allegation of being gay? |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-20-11 05:52 PM |
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For me what is insulting is being referred to as gay is slanderous |
justiceischeap |
Jun-21-11 10:52 AM |
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Yep. Not only slanderous, but "per se" slanderous which groups us in with... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-21-11 11:50 AM |
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I agree with this because the intention was to cause problems for the person being accused. |
phleshdef |
Jun-20-11 03:44 PM |
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I think you are correct. but almost no one on the thread gets that. |
JoePhilly |
Jun-21-11 05:15 PM |
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Could this help |
YankeyMCC |
Jun-20-11 04:04 PM |
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As likewise should be false allegations of heterosexuality. |
damntexdem |
Jun-20-11 04:07 PM |
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While false allegations may be bad and hurt one's feelings, injury has to be proved. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 04:16 PM |
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Why do we even have the labels |
humbled_opinion |
Jun-20-11 04:54 PM |
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Good lord, where to start with this fail. |
Chovexani |
Jun-21-11 12:33 PM |
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LOL... |
humbled_opinion |
Jun-21-11 04:23 PM |
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masturbation has nothing to do with being attracted to yourself (okay there may be a few... |
yawnmaster |
Jun-21-11 12:58 PM |
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My premise is not false |
humbled_opinion |
Jun-21-11 05:05 PM |
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Saying a premise is logic as an argument to its validity is circular and itself illogical |
yawnmaster |
Jun-21-11 07:53 PM |
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Ehh... |
chrisa |
Jun-20-11 04:59 PM |
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+! nt |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jun-20-11 10:07 PM |
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Thank you, for your expert analysis, Melvin Beli. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 10:56 PM |
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a couple of things |
dsc |
Jun-20-11 10:20 PM |
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I don't think one has to prove damage in a "per se" defamation case. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 11:16 PM |
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yeah that is what I meant |
dsc |
Jun-20-11 11:20 PM |
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Not to argue the point too much, but I think the fact the case is in NY... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-20-11 11:30 PM |
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I guess I'm reading the ruling as not defamatory against 'gay' per se |
Sheepshank |
Jun-20-11 11:36 PM |
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Will this apply to minors? |
Sabriel |
Jun-21-11 11:22 AM |
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Sure. It always has. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-21-11 12:09 PM |
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OTOH if you get accused falsely of the same thing three times, that's a "freebie" |
slackmaster |
Jun-21-11 04:24 PM |
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