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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 12:10 PM
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24. I'm reading the book "JFK and the Unspeakable" by James Douglass...
...and he cites a great quote from a Trappist monk, and noted peace advocate, named Thomas Merton in a poem called "Chant to Be Used in Processions around a Site with Furnaces"

"Do not think yourself better because you burn up friends and enemies with long-range missiles, without ever seeing what you have done."

The poem itself is described as "droning...spoken by the commander of a Nazi death camp in Europe. The matter-of-fact tone, the quotations, the obsession with cleanliness amidst the extermination of people, the mechanical recitation of events all make a powerful impact. For Merton, this is the result of a world without the sacred to reveal the value of the profane. All becomes mechanistic and death-bound. Merton uses irony and a kind of black humor to speak of a horror beyond words. The murderers are not from a different species than humanity and that is the startling thing for Merton. They seem so sane in many ways, they can appreciate music, love their families and dogs and then go to work where they antiseptically commit genocide all in a day's labor. Merton saw such 'sanity' without love as a threat to human survival and that truth demanded less, not more, of such sanity."
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  - Don't try to stop one if you can't stop them all at the same time.  JoePhilly   Jun-17-11 01:39 PM   #1 
  - This  scheming daemons   Jun-18-11 09:05 AM   #17 
  - It is a valid question, though, that you dodged.  tekisui   Jun-18-11 10:05 AM   #22 
  - Why do we allow people to starve to death? nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-17-11 01:39 PM   #2 
  - Battles must be picked  RZM   Jun-17-11 01:41 PM   #3 
  - There is oil in Libya.  The_Casual_Observer   Jun-17-11 02:12 PM   #4 
  - I think you nailed it.  drokhole   Jun-17-11 02:37 PM   #5 
  - and a lot more on that giant piece of real estate, gold for one .....  L. Coyote   Jun-17-11 02:41 PM   #6 
  - Talk to Russia and China. The UK and France have tried to get the UN to deal with Syria  pampango   Jun-17-11 03:07 PM   #9 
  - It costs the UK & France nothing extra to give a nod to Syria  The_Casual_Observer   Jun-17-11 03:33 PM   #12 
     - Wait, the UK & France don't care about Syria, but Russia & China do?  pampango   Jun-18-11 08:03 AM   #13 
  - Ding ding we have a winner n/t  malaise   Jun-18-11 09:11 AM   #19 
  - There will be a bigger and longer Libya massacre because the USA/NATO intervened.  PufPuf23   Jun-17-11 02:54 PM   #7 
  - It was not a unilateral US intervention in Libya. It was the UN that approved it.  pampango   Jun-17-11 02:58 PM   #8 
  - China and Russia would veto any UN intervention.  Swede   Jun-17-11 03:23 PM   #10 
  - Or the one in Detroit?  Octafish   Jun-17-11 03:26 PM   #11 
  - I live in Detroit and am not aware of any massacre occurring here  Motown_Johnny   Jun-18-11 08:26 AM   #14 
     - Sorry to use symbolism. I'd like to see some of the New New Deal from Washington.  Octafish   Jun-18-11 08:52 AM   #15 
  - Because Libyan "atrocities" was an organized SCAM, Syrian atrocity is REAL  Distant Observer   Jun-18-11 09:03 AM   #16 
  - Wait. Russia and China want "the West to regain strong control of North African energy reserves".  pampango   Jun-18-11 10:00 AM   #21 
  - Will you be going?  butterfly77   Jun-18-11 09:07 AM   #18 
  - Going where? "I'm not asking for a military intervention in Syria..."  pampango   Jun-18-11 09:51 AM   #20 
  - More peaceful protestor were being killed per day in Syria than all killed in Libya pre-intervention  Distant Observer   Jun-18-11 10:11 AM   #23 
     - I'm reading the book "JFK and the Unspeakable" by James Douglass...  drokhole   Jun-18-11 12:10 PM   #24 
 

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