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Thu Jun-16-11 11:48 AM
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| 9. Radiation found in whale 650KM away. |
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http://www.myweathertech.com/2011/06/15/high-levels-of -... / -snip has info about testing caught whales and map of plume- ASR Limited, a marine consulting and research firm, has just directly sent me a link to their seawater plume simulation which shows exactly how the 3 million gallons of highly radioactive water TEPCO dumped into the sea will spread through the Pacific Ocean. ------------------- the nuke toxin will stay in the whale and if the whale stays in the plume or re enters the plume it will accumulate. when/if the whale is eaten it will go into whatever eats it, human or otherwise. and if it dies at sea it will go into the sea. the toxin is there forever.
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| -Fukushima: It's much worse than you think |
Bozita |
Jun-16-11 11:02 AM |
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Unlike Chernobyl, though, Japan did a reasonably good job of evacuating people |
bigworld |
Jun-16-11 11:06 AM |
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The jury is still out on that |
peace4ever |
Jun-16-11 11:20 AM |
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What?!?! |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 11:45 AM |
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With a wind change |
oldbanjo |
Jun-16-11 11:45 AM |
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Yeah, right........There are thousands dying as we speak. |
neoralme |
Jun-16-11 12:24 PM |
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WE know that a number of people have died from this |
lark |
Jun-16-11 12:51 PM |
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We know that it CAN NOT POSSIBLY be a great number. |
TheMadMonk |
Jun-16-11 01:13 PM |
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And what would we know if our scientists are being gagged? |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:17 PM |
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Oh, you thought I was being sarcastic... No, what I said I meant. I |
neoralme |
Jun-16-11 02:31 PM |
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any evidence of this? |
bowens43 |
Jun-16-11 11:24 PM |
#143 |
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Oddly you are right |
intaglio |
Jun-16-11 01:51 PM |
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I don't forget anything. That's what I meant when I said thousands |
neoralme |
Jun-16-11 02:28 PM |
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making shit up doesn't help the situation. |
bowens43 |
Jun-16-11 11:24 PM |
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How do you quarantine seafood? |
pnwmom |
Jun-16-11 01:22 PM |
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Hell, I wanna know how you quarantine sea WATER. |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-16-11 02:25 PM |
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If you call..... |
DeSwiss |
Jun-16-11 02:32 PM |
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Russophobic Drivel |
Nossida |
Jun-16-11 02:39 PM |
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+1 n/t |
Shining Jack |
Jun-16-11 11:48 PM |
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+1. |
JVS |
Jun-21-11 04:50 AM |
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Name removed |
Jun-16-11 02:47 PM |
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I don't know -- I've thought it was pretty horrible from the get-go |
nichomachus |
Jun-16-11 11:14 AM |
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thank you for posting. |
barbtries |
Jun-16-11 11:19 AM |
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Hahah Gunderson |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 11:34 AM |
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Really, Tub? |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 11:59 AM |
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Fukushima did not cause the tsunami |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:15 PM |
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Pathetic... |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:43 PM |
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You seem to enjoy personal attacks |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:49 PM |
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Never mind, Tub. |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:52 PM |
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OK, It's pretty obvious with your personal attacks that you don't want an actual discussion |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:54 PM |
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You doth projecting too much, me thinks |
liberation |
Jun-16-11 01:53 PM |
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There is no need for an actual discussion |
nonperson |
Jun-16-11 07:15 PM |
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Indeed |
itsnotaboutu |
Jun-16-11 09:21 PM |
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Well shit, how am I going to grown my tomatoes then? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 12:21 PM |
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I agree and I've already posted this before |
nonperson |
Jun-17-11 01:43 PM |
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Most of the mass of this entire planet is undergoing radioactive decay. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 03:39 PM |
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Radioactive decay and being exposed to a gazillion rems a minute are the same thing now? |
nonperson |
Jun-17-11 05:44 PM |
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Background radiation varies around the world. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 06:07 PM |
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There are Not Real People posting on this site. nt |
valerief |
Jun-16-11 01:54 PM |
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Ah, if it had withstood the earthquake |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-16-11 02:02 PM |
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And 5 years ago they knew Fuku could not withstand the increasing seismic activity... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:27 PM |
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"the nuclear industry has the ability to monitor radiation levels" |
Occulus |
Jun-17-11 12:49 AM |
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Let's see... |
chervilant |
Jun-17-11 01:45 AM |
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'very likely' |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 12:19 PM |
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P. S. |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:50 PM |
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Thanks! |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:54 PM |
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Epic fail |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 01:00 PM |
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If you think spouting pro nurclear industry regurgitations |
lark |
Jun-16-11 12:55 PM |
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Please provide a link |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:11 PM |
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Got any evidence of those deaths? Or are you just ABSOLUTELY... |
TheMadMonk |
Jun-16-11 01:37 PM |
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Lied about meltdown, amount released but we should believe them now? |
roxiejules |
Jun-16-11 12:03 PM |
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Nothing in your link demonstrated how the situation is getting worse |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:26 PM |
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Didn't claim to say it is getting worse.... |
roxiejules |
Jun-16-11 12:38 PM |
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I really don't understand why you responded to me |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:53 PM |
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The CONSEQUENCES of the accident are worse |
roxiejules |
Jun-16-11 01:00 PM |
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who do you work for? I'm guessing the nuke industry |
wordpix |
Jun-16-11 02:21 PM |
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No shit...so sick of these corporate shills... |
CoffeeCat |
Jun-16-11 10:37 PM |
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Common sense says it's getting worse... Japanese suicide teams have been volunteered.... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:31 PM |
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In a town where some members of my family live, a man had a farm |
JDPriestly |
Jun-16-11 12:13 PM |
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Thanks for the anecdotal story |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:21 PM |
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How come |
marions ghost |
Jun-16-11 12:42 PM |
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My guess is he works for one and is doing his best to justify |
lark |
Jun-16-11 12:58 PM |
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Nope, actually unemployed =/ |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:07 PM |
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Who needs a real job when you can get a paying gig that lets you |
kestrel91316 |
Jun-16-11 02:29 PM |
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you'd make a damn good PR guy for the nuke industry but your facts are askew |
wordpix |
Jun-16-11 02:29 PM |
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So... |
chervilant |
Jun-17-11 02:11 AM |
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Where did I say I like nuclear power |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:06 PM |
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you've been an apologist for it in this thread |
wordpix |
Jun-16-11 02:29 PM |
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Probably not a real person. Probably someone's employee doing his work here. nt |
valerief |
Jun-16-11 01:56 PM |
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Time will tell, and the stakes are very high. |
JDPriestly |
Jun-16-11 01:11 PM |
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Maybe the guy you know works for the nuke industry ... or is just dumb? |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:48 PM |
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We need to hear more from Helen Caldicott here at DU and less from nuke industry .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:33 PM |
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You're the one I'll not listen to. |
neoralme |
Jun-16-11 12:25 PM |
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I'm crushed |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:27 PM |
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I would no more go on a social network than I would put my |
neoralme |
Jun-16-11 12:35 PM |
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Arnie Gunderson's account has been found |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:42 PM |
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what are YOUR credentials, Bathtub? |
wordpix |
Jun-16-11 02:22 PM |
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You bore me. Welcome to IGNORE. n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jun-16-11 02:36 PM |
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Don't let these obvious fools derail... |
CoffeeCat |
Jun-16-11 10:42 PM |
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I agree. What we need is a Post-nuclear Disaster Prep Site here, |
neoralme |
Jun-17-11 08:42 AM |
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spoken like a true blogger for the nuke industry - way to go! |
wordpix |
Jun-16-11 02:18 PM |
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"It hasn't even killed anyone" |
JoshieR |
Jun-16-11 02:25 PM |
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I suppose the walking dead who won't die for a few more years don't count. {Geeze} n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jun-16-11 02:34 PM |
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How dare you pee on a perfectly colorful End of the World-The Sky is Falling |
ergot |
Jun-16-11 09:48 PM |
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How many articles saying "It's even worse than you think" need to be posted. |
robcon |
Jun-16-11 11:48 AM |
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Because every day it is getting worse. |
democrat_patriot |
Jun-16-11 11:51 AM |
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How is it getting worse? |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 11:56 AM |
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Sigh... |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:13 PM |
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Sweet blog |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 12:23 PM |
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Definition of "ad-hominem" |
StarburstClock |
Jun-16-11 12:28 PM |
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Priceless |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:31 PM |
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Huh???? |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 12:49 PM |
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No safe radiation? |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:00 PM |
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Keep digging that hole, wee mannie... |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 01:08 PM |
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I asked for a peer reviewed journal |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:30 PM |
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Duh |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 01:54 PM |
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The fact is that medical science is in its infancy, |
azul |
Jun-16-11 01:04 PM |
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Furthermore, |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 01:15 PM |
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Take your argument up with these guys |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 01:39 PM |
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Linear no-threshold model has been shown to be faulty |
Taft_Bathtub |
Jun-16-11 01:46 PM |
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Wonderful |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 01:58 PM |
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We live on radioactive dirt and rock, floating over radioactive molten rock, orbiting an unshielded |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 01:43 PM |
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Your point? |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 01:52 PM |
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"Many experts have come out and stated flatly that there is no "safe dose" of radiation" |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 01:57 PM |
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Don't lie |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 02:00 PM |
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The things is that there are multiple forms of radiation |
liberation |
Jun-16-11 02:30 PM |
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Wow |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 02:46 PM |
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Proof of what? |
liberation |
Jun-16-11 05:38 PM |
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Did you read what the experts said? |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 06:40 PM |
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It's not true. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 03:31 PM |
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Argue with these guys |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 06:31 PM |
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Argue with their opinion or a double blind study? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 07:09 PM |
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Appeal to authority? |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 07:17 PM |
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Your own body emits radiation. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 07:23 PM |
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Another non-sequitur |
bongbong |
Jun-16-11 08:22 PM |
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Getting shot implies harm. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 10:05 PM |
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asdf |
bongbong |
Jun-17-11 09:25 AM |
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Yep. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 10:08 AM |
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Wha???? |
bongbong |
Jun-17-11 10:28 AM |
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If that statement is true, there is absolutely no safe place in the known universe. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 10:48 AM |
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Keep beating that dead horse! |
bongbong |
Jun-17-11 11:55 AM |
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Appeal to Authority |
gilgamesh1 |
Jun-21-11 04:42 AM |
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There is no safe dose in arsenic poisoning, so we might as well |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-16-11 02:21 PM |
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Uhm, there is a safe dose in arsenic poisoning. |
boppers |
Jun-16-11 03:04 PM |
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If you're drinking the purest artesian spring water, you're probably drinking some arsenic. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 03:32 PM |
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And some are not. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-16-11 02:15 PM |
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Hey I have an idea since you are so obviously in love with nuke power get on the next thing smoking |
sce56 |
Jun-17-11 12:42 AM |
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Here's a local newspaper in the area of the reactors that indicate problems: |
plumbob |
Jun-16-11 01:51 PM |
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Some people care about the exposure to children |
marions ghost |
Jun-16-11 02:58 PM |
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Not a bad idea. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 11:57 PM |
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There is no way to cool the cores -- they have melted -- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:36 PM |
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BP did finally plug the well. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 11:55 PM |
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Radiation found in whale 650KM away. |
democrat_patriot |
Jun-16-11 11:48 AM |
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These whale deaths were not from radiation. |
azul |
Jun-16-11 12:38 PM |
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OMG! |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:46 PM |
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You able to stay on thread? |
azul |
Jun-16-11 01:41 PM |
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Your sense of balance is fucked up. |
Bonobo |
Jun-16-11 07:26 PM |
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Oh, yes ... the fish will thrive in RADIOACTIVE PACIFIC WATERS ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:43 PM |
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Because it was already radioactive, right? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-17-11 10:18 AM |
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FWIW: That wasn't a "bizarre" interpretation at all; mistaken perhaps, but not bizarre. nt |
patrice |
Jun-16-11 02:55 PM |
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RADIOACTIVE RODS were also found a mile away from Fuku after explosions -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:42 PM |
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THREE core meltdowns in Fukushima... |
chervilant |
Jun-16-11 12:28 PM |
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Just stop it. |
azul |
Jun-16-11 12:52 PM |
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Why are we continuing the stupidity of using nuclear reactors to boil water for steam ?????? |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:51 PM |
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Somewhere between 30% and 90% of the Chernobyl core was blown out into atmosphere while on fire |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 01:50 PM |
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K&R n/t |
DeSwiss |
Jun-16-11 01:22 PM |
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I believe Gunderson |
swilton |
Jun-16-11 01:25 PM |
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I hope this terrible disaster inspires a new |
felix_numinous |
Jun-16-11 01:37 PM |
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BAN THE BOMB --- Ban Nuclear Reactors -- Ban nuke stupidity --. |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:52 PM |
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I heard a rabbit with no ears was born there recently |
thelordofhell |
Jun-16-11 01:53 PM |
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Good. It can't hear all the pro-nuclear bullshit. nt |
valerief |
Jun-16-11 01:57 PM |
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hahahha, good one |
wordpix |
Jun-16-11 02:26 PM |
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As some are born around the entire planet. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 01:58 PM |
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I'm in New Jersey and there's a squirrel with five legs in my back yard... |
rfranklin |
Jun-16-11 02:40 PM |
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Pro-nuke arguments make as much sense as the tobacco industry lies re cancer .... |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:53 PM |
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It seems disingenuous to call it a power plant any more. |
the_chinuk |
Jun-16-11 02:00 PM |
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good point |
marions ghost |
Jun-16-11 02:33 PM |
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I do wonder what they are going to do with Reactors 5, 6 maybe 10 years in the future |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-16-11 03:38 PM |
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Notice lack of any attempt to explain what will END this catastrophe -- |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:57 PM |
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i guess i`m going to drop dead any minute.... |
madrchsod |
Jun-16-11 02:05 PM |
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1 our of every 3 Americans now has cancer -- how many with leukemia, alone? |
defendandprotect |
Jun-16-11 09:59 PM |
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It sure is,,, |
CJvR |
Jun-16-11 02:38 PM |
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liquid nitrogen |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jun-16-11 07:13 PM |
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Not really |
malaise |
Jun-16-11 07:19 PM |
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No, it's not. It's worse than the corporate media will admit |
saras |
Jun-16-11 09:34 PM |
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Can we talk about protections... |
CoffeeCat |
Jun-16-11 10:58 PM |
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some days this site reminds me of worldnut daily.....nt |
bowens43 |
Jun-16-11 11:27 PM |
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Or a PR firm for BP and TEPCO |
Cetacea |
Jun-17-11 01:17 AM |
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Ouch! |
Octafish |
Jun-17-11 03:40 PM |
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Yeah, now I drink vodka with my chocolate milk |
Oxy Contin |
Jun-16-11 11:30 PM |
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I hear one of those might be toxic. |
boppers |
Jun-17-11 01:48 AM |
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it can't be worse than i thought... |
tomp |
Jun-17-11 08:38 AM |
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Actually, I think it is really bad already. n/t |
quaker bill |
Jun-17-11 05:48 PM |
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It is this bad |
quaker bill |
Jun-21-11 05:08 AM |
#173 |