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It's clear that there are some hard feelings surrounding discussion of LGBT issues here on DU.
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Edited on Wed Jun-15-11 09:55 AM by Skinner
And I think some of you need a place to hash this out. There have been a few attempts to work through this, which is good.

Unfortunately, I think those attempts have been stymied by our efforts to enforce the DU rules, which has had the unintended consequence of creating more hard feelings, and making honest discussion difficult. The purpose of rules is foster productive discussions, but in this case I think the rules are having the opposite effect.

If one thing is totally obvious, it's that I can't make you get along, and I can't make you talk to each other and understand each other, and I can't make you happy. You need to do that yourselves. By getting myself out of the way, I hope that some of you might be able to hash this out.

So, I am posting this thread where interested DUers can engage in an unfiltered and uncensored discussion. I am instructing the moderators not to delete any posts, so don't bother alerting. This thread is for you all to actually engage in a discussion with each other, rather than sending tit-for-tat alerts in hopes of getting the moderators to censor people.

Obviously feelings are very raw, many DUers feel misunderstood and disrespected, and I know that there is a good chance this discussion will get very hot. To be honest, I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. Maybe, once people have had a chance to blow off steam, we can finally make some progress.

Good luck.
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  -It's clear that there are some hard feelings surrounding discussion of LGBT issues here on DU. Skinner  Jun-15-11 09:16 AM   #0 
  - Well, my support for full equality for GLBT human rights  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 09:19 AM   #1 
  - People get married to tactics  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 09:25 AM   #4 
  - No doubt. That's OK.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 09:29 AM   #7 
  - +1 This has always been the simplest of issues for me  hifiguy   Jun-15-11 11:10 AM   #167 
  - +100  dotymed   Jun-16-11 09:07 AM   #1032 
     - Yep....  WCGreen   Jun-16-11 09:30 AM   #1042 
     - That's Crazy Talk  Macoy   Jun-22-11 01:10 PM   #1730 
  - Agree.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:46 AM   #201 
     - Absolutely, and even more importantly, keep Democratic  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 12:03 PM   #227 
        - Sadly, MineralMan, having Democratic majorities has not helped us.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:22 PM   #460 
           - I understand what you're saying. And you're right.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 03:48 PM   #477 
              - Trying to stay within the letter of the rules here.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:08 PM   #505 
                 - That's what primaries are for, IMO n/t  eridani   Jun-15-11 05:55 PM   #629 
                 - Yes.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:10 PM   #776 
                    - agreed  joshguitar   Jun-15-11 10:04 PM   #868 
                    - But there must be some way to turf the asshole out, right?  eridani   Jun-16-11 03:22 AM   #968 
                 - You have a point, where that is the case. In my own  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 06:35 PM   #662 
                 - this  justabob   Jun-17-11 01:34 AM   #1445 
  - I concur with that assessment  ProgressiveProfessor   Jun-15-11 09:45 AM   #28 
  - I completely agree.  divvy   Jun-15-11 11:01 AM   #156 
  - Excellent points . . . nt  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 09:46 AM   #31 
  - and, of course, sometimes it actually is a lack of support for the LGBT community  fishwax   Jun-15-11 11:22 AM   #182 
     - And doesn't that involve the Mods, Skinner and the rules ... ??? Just passin' by ... but ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:07 PM   #1633 
  - In agreement, Mineral Man.  Dogtown   Jun-15-11 09:30 AM   #9 
  - That's my position as well, MM  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 12:55 PM   #286 
     - "everyone agrees that nothing less than full equality is acceptable"  awoke_in_2003   Jun-15-11 04:13 PM   #511 
        - I'm certainly not in that number, yet I'm getting all sorts of shit and hostility here  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 02:01 PM   #1224 
  - this may end up being the longest thread in DU history :)  yodermon   Jun-15-11 09:23 AM   #2 
  - And the straightest. - n/t  Zenlitened   Jun-15-11 11:16 AM   #176 
  - Well, not sure.  Marcel   Jun-15-11 02:21 PM   #407 
  - That would be graywarrior's  kentauros   Jun-15-11 11:38 PM   #925 
  - kr  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 10:15 PM   #1704 
  - ''What's the big deal?''  Octafish   Jun-15-11 09:24 AM   #3 
  - Sometimes I think children  Maine-ah   Jun-15-11 09:45 AM   #29 
  - my boys see it like that, but then that is what is in our home. unfortunately, that is not what  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 10:50 AM   #134 
  - It's how my soon-to-be eleven year old has been raised.  xmas74   Jun-15-11 10:31 AM   #107 
  - Yes, it's the way kids are raised, I agree.  Marcel   Jun-15-11 02:26 PM   #412 
     - I made it as simple as possible  xmas74   Jun-15-11 03:15 PM   # 
  - 20 years from now...  tomfodw   Jun-16-11 10:19 AM   #1065 
  - Exactly! Very wise 10-year-old. Here's the crux of the issue:  personna au gratin   Jun-18-11 02:12 PM   #1611 
  - I think we are all for LGBT equality  bluestateguy   Jun-15-11 09:27 AM   #5 
  - It might be the other way around  nichomachus   Jun-15-11 09:31 AM   #11 
  - do you know in the 90's an easy majority felt gay marriage should be. something like over 65%  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 10:53 AM   #140 
  - I think you're on to something. They use abortion in the same way.  Arkansas Granny   Jun-15-11 10:59 AM   #153 
     - The first big wedge issue I recall that the Repubs used was busing.  DURHAM D   Jun-15-11 04:51 PM   #559 
        - But the way desegregation of the schools was handled, a "wedge issue" was created  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:09 PM   #1696 
  - How to get there  BeFree   Jun-15-11 09:39 AM   #18 
  - Don't be so sure  texshelters   Jun-15-11 10:00 AM   #47 
  - Agree ... there is a lot of hidden prejudice here --  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:15 PM   #1635 
  - I think there are posters who are not for LGBT equality  fishwax   Jun-15-11 11:17 AM   #177 
  - I used to be ambivlent  christx30   Jun-16-11 12:44 AM   #952 
  - May I disagree with that .... The real enemy is those who profit from this exploitation ....  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:13 PM   #1634 
  - I commend you for what you have tried to do Skinner.  William769   Jun-15-11 09:27 AM   #6 
  - bigoted people change, Will  fascisthunter   Jun-15-11 09:33 AM   #15 
  - I appreciate your post.  William769   Jun-15-11 09:38 AM   #17 
     - I can Understand  fascisthunter   Jun-15-11 09:43 AM   #24 
     - I agree people can change -  TBF   Jun-15-11 04:12 PM   #507 
  - Bigots can change.  lapislzi   Jun-15-11 09:35 AM   #16 
  - It isn't just bigotry, it's bullying, as has been mentioned below.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-15-11 08:05 PM   #771 
  - And you think (some) active DUers are bigoted against LGBT issues?  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 09:48 AM   #32 
  - Yes we do. NT  William769   Jun-15-11 10:05 AM   #57 
  - That's the problem. People want to fight with their allies here instead of fighting their enemies.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:09 AM   # 
  - Maybe your allies,  William769   Jun-15-11 10:17 AM   #85 
  - I'm an ally, and I'm not fighting.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-16-11 06:25 AM   #983 
     - Not a bit incoherent. Thanks for that. nt  Vanje   Jun-16-11 12:08 PM   #1123 
  - As do I  FloridaJudy   Jun-15-11 01:38 PM   #347 
  - Awesome! nt  Vanje   Jun-15-11 01:43 PM   #349 
  - Me, too, Judy,  chervilant   Jun-15-11 08:03 PM   #768 
  - well said Judy! I'm with you. n/t  auntAgonist   Jun-16-11 12:23 AM   #945 
  - Too bad you can't rec a reply.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 07:25 AM   #1001 
  - I would be honored to join you.  MuseRider   Jun-16-11 11:22 AM   #1103 
  - You can count me in too  Amaril   Jun-17-11 11:43 AM   #1497 
  - Very true... I expect those comments  fascisthunter   Jun-17-11 04:41 PM   #1535 
  - All of these issues are the same -- same exploiters, same patterns, same "stfu" --  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:27 PM   #1637 
  - I've got to say ....  etherealtruth   Jun-15-11 06:38 PM   #666 
  - Yes, homophobia runs deep  texshelters   Jun-15-11 10:06 AM   #58 
  - But not here. I challenge you to find anyone who opposes full equality for LGBT here.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:11 AM   #73 
     - People who oppose  texshelters   Jun-15-11 10:54 AM   #143 
     - +1 -- they do not openly state it -- which is where the difficulties with MODS comes in ....  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:33 PM   #1639 
     - Oh my god.  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 04:20 PM   #524 
     - You are an example of the problem. You've conflated the meanings of LGBT equal rights vs. homophobia  Lil Missy   Jun-15-11 05:30 PM   #594 
        - Wow. Lots of passion there. I have literally NO idea what you're talking about.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 09:47 PM   #857 
           - Let me give you an example that may help  Hippo_Tron   Jun-15-11 10:30 PM   #889 
           - You are absolutely correct  texshelters   Jun-16-11 10:08 AM   #1061 
           - I totally agree. I don't understand how anything I wrote could be construed otherwise. nt  mistertrickster   Jun-16-11 03:37 PM   #1260 
           - Ahh yes, deliberately dismissive again.  Lil Missy   Jun-15-11 11:28 PM   #921 
              - Wow, you are thin skinned  texshelters   Jun-16-11 10:06 AM   #1059 
              - I wasn't responding to you. Check again. n/t  Lil Missy   Jun-16-11 12:08 PM   #1124 
                 - Sorry Lil MIssy  texshelters   Jun-16-11 06:26 PM   #1332 
              - Thank you. I've been enjoying my stay since 2002. nt  mistertrickster   Jun-16-11 03:36 PM   #1258 
  - you think no active DUers are bigoted against LGBT issues?  fishwax   Jun-15-11 11:23 AM   #183 
  - Of course some are. eom  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 11:26 AM   #184 
  - Yes. Not sure if they're trolls, but yes. n/t  gkhouston   Jun-15-11 12:39 PM   #274 
  - If a person spends years deliberately antagonizing a group of people every chance he gets,  QC   Jun-15-11 12:42 PM   #278 
  - Yes. there are bigots here. Fact.  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 01:54 PM   #363 
  - So...  Marcel   Jun-15-11 03:01 PM   #439 
  - You want me to name them?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:31 PM   #464 
     - Funny how I could identify the letters behind those asterisks like THAT!  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 04:19 PM   #521 
     - Funny- I know EXACTLY who each of those astericks represent.  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 08:29 AM   #1020 
        - Purely coincidental, I'm sure. n/t  QC   Jun-16-11 08:44 AM   #1025 
  - Yes.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:26 PM   #461 
  - Some DUers delight in gay baiting.  ZombieHorde   Jun-15-11 04:17 PM   #518 
  - It was, and is, fucked up. People are still trotting out that swaybacked old nag.  QC   Jun-15-11 04:28 PM   #536 
  - That was last year?  Mimosa   Jun-16-11 11:50 PM   #1428 
  - Agree 1000% --  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:48 PM   #1640 
  - There absolutely are some  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 08:27 AM   #1019 
  - Can you speak for every active DU poster here?  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 10:22 PM   #1636 
  - Actually  texshelters   Jun-15-11 10:04 AM   #54 
     - malcolm x changed also.  mopinko   Jun-16-11 09:46 AM   #1048 
  - We shall see.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 09:29 AM   #8 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Jun-15-11 09:31 AM   #10 
  - But the problem is, H20 Man....  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:33 PM   #466 
     - I certainly agree  H2O Man   Jun-16-11 06:30 AM   #984 
     - Thanks Waterman, you always "get it"- almost always anyway :)  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 10:45 AM   #1077 
     - Issue of the MODS has to be opened up -- otherwise you're talking to yourselves ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:01 PM   #1642 
        - True.  H2O Man   Jun-23-11 07:27 AM   #1734 
  - I've yet to be offended by anyone on DU over gay issues. My threads about me and my hubby have been  Snoutport   Jun-15-11 09:31 AM   #12 
  - i love your posts  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 10:54 AM   #145 
  - :0) Thank you very much!  Snoutport   Jun-15-11 05:47 PM   #622 
     - i duke it out on the education threads, too. i happen to think the schools are kicking ass  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 08:20 PM   #786 
  - there have been a LOT of offensive posts regarding gay issues  auntAgonist   Jun-16-11 12:42 AM   #951 
  - Apparently, I'm WAY out of the loop here.  Le Taz Hot   Jun-15-11 09:32 AM   #13 
  - Me too.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 09:42 AM   #22 
  - same here.. but then I don't post much anymore  SoCalDem   Jun-15-11 11:58 AM   #220 
  - I'm watching this thread because all of these exploitations -- discrimination -- are related ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:06 PM   #1643 
  - I used to think civil unions were the way to go, but now understand marriage for everyone  snooper2   Jun-15-11 09:32 AM   #14 
  - I think civil unions are a half measure, but I support them  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 09:39 AM   #19 
  - Civil Unions for all - No Government Approved Marriage  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 09:43 AM   #25 
  - There are people who do not understand the difference between being legally married and religiously  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 09:52 AM   #35 
  - That's why i favor civil unions for all - at least from a Government Perspective  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 09:54 AM   #37 
  - That's what we have now. Anyone who wants to be married *must* go through ...  GodlessBiker   Jun-15-11 10:04 AM   #55 
  - That's a fantastic point. about divorce  semillama   Jun-15-11 10:59 AM   #151 
  - Indeed. The Catholic Church doesn't have a say who gets divorced ...  GodlessBiker   Jun-15-11 11:33 AM   #191 
     - isn't the same already true of marriage?  fishwax   Jun-15-11 11:50 AM   #207 
        - They're helping to prevent me from getting married. Why don't they have a campaign ...  GodlessBiker   Jun-15-11 03:02 PM   #440 
           - I think the church would be thrilled if they could restrict divorces  fishwax   Jun-15-11 04:12 PM   #508 
           - RCC and Mormon Church also funded the campaign against Equal Rights for Women ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:20 PM   #1646 
  - And churches aren't required to recognize civil divorces from a religious perspective  Recursion   Jun-17-11 10:27 AM   #1489 
  - Agree 1000% -- interesting ....  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:17 PM   #1645 
  - the problem is the word "marriage"...  awoke_in_2003   Jun-15-11 04:23 PM   #527 
  - The government perspective is already clear.  Gormy Cuss   Jun-16-11 09:59 AM   #1054 
  - A couple who has a wedding ceremony in a church without obtaining a marriage license from the state  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:06 AM   #62 
  - Depends on the state  jberryhill   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #68 
  - Every state requires a marriage license in order for that marriage to be recognized by the state.  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 10:12 AM   #78 
  - Yes, you repeated the point....  jberryhill   Jun-15-11 11:43 AM   #200 
  - Not true.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:23 AM   #91 
  - "as legal from day one"  jberryhill   Jun-15-11 11:42 AM   #199 
     - Actually only nine states recognize common law marriage and a handful more...  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 06:55 AM   #992 
     - Are you saying that homosexuals can have a "common law" marriage recognized????  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:24 PM   #1647 
  - The officiating clergy can sign and file the papers in some cases, if they are certified to do so  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 10:24 AM   #93 
  - They're not legally married. That doesn't mean holy union ceremonies  gkhouston   Jun-15-11 12:42 PM   #277 
  - Of course not.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 05:31 PM   #597 
  - That's not quite right...  markpkessinger   Jun-15-11 06:00 PM   #632 
     - We're talking about equal protection under the law.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 06:51 AM   #991 
  - Agree - it is pretty weird how many people do not understand marriage as a legal concept  jberryhill   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #63 
  - In some countries, getting married in a church fulfills all the legal requirements  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-15-11 10:14 AM   #80 
     - I know. And in some countries, like the USA, it is in no way necessary or legal unless they also  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 10:22 AM   #90 
     - Marriage law is quite different in the U.K. verses the U.S.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:50 AM   #132 
     - The only reason why UK should be brought into this debate of marriage rights...  mwooldri   Jun-15-11 04:54 PM   #562 
     - That's because those are official State churches.  Lance_Boyle   Jun-15-11 12:20 PM   #247 
  - I agree, although it's been pointed out that the term "Civil Union" already has a specific legal  KittyWampus   Jun-15-11 09:53 AM   #36 
  - Currently, every legal marriage... that is, a marriage that is recognized by the state...  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 09:58 AM   #44 
     - The problem with that is that there is no uniformity.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 10:03 AM   #52 
        - The fact that the government only recognizes marriage means that it is a civil  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #64 
           - I don't disagree with that at all. Marriage is the universally-accepted  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 10:16 AM   #84 
  - Marriage in the U.S. is already a civil union. Why codify it as a purely religious event in order  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 09:54 AM   #38 
  - Because marriage is clearly more than a civil union in some peoples minds  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 09:57 AM   #42 
  - You exacerbate those connotations when you change marriage to a civil union.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:02 AM   #49 
  - In the short term that's probably true  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:04 AM   #56 
     - My point is that since marriage is by definition a civil union ...  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #66 
        - If a marriage is a civil union is a marriage - why are civil unions so unpalatable to so many?  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:10 AM   #71 
           - Precisely.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:15 AM   #82 
           - And I don't think it's a good idea to let the Government assign that social, legal and emotional  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:21 AM   # 
              - What is wrong with the next generation making that decision?  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:25 AM   # 
              - One clarifying point  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:32 AM   #111 
              - A point of law here on what you said  customerserviceguy   Jun-16-11 12:24 AM   #946 
                 - Point well taken. Thank you.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 06:47 AM   #989 
                    - Things do indeed change over time  customerserviceguy   Jun-16-11 06:11 PM   #1327 
              - The government is responsible for laws, and no other entity n/t  eridani   Jun-15-11 07:06 PM   #693 
           - Because there is a different term based on sexual orientation. Give them all the same term  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 10:27 AM   #99 
              - that is what I am saying; civil unions for all, straight or gay. no government sanctioned marriage.  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:33 AM   #112 
                 - Basically you are eliminating the very word marriage then.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:50 AM   #135 
                    - Well people could still go to their churches or other organizations to get "married"  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:56 AM   #147 
                       - See, that's exactly the part that bothers me.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 11:04 AM   #163 
                          - You mean like they are already doing?  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 11:15 AM   # 
                             - x1,000 yes  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 12:03 PM   #226 
                                - I don't know if they would have any additional right to do so  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 12:30 PM   #263 
  - Actually, it is the governments place to codify civil matters. And legal marriage is  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 10:03 AM   #53 
  - Indeed. All we clergy do is....  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:11 AM   #76 
     - That is a good way to put it to them, thank you. eom  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 10:28 AM   #101 
     - Yup. That's why I got my ULC ordination.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 10:34 AM   #115 
     - In fact that is (or used to be) core to the Catholic teaching on matrimony  nichomachus   Jun-15-11 01:11 PM   #306 
        - It still is. It's the one sacrament not administered by a priest.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 07:01 AM   #993 
           - I know, but they don't act like it  nichomachus   Jun-16-11 11:30 AM   #1111 
  - Religious bigots oppose civil unions just as strenuously as marriage.  Maven   Jun-15-11 02:44 PM   #422 
     - Get on board?  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 03:16 PM   #452 
        - Because the "third way" is a lie. It creates a classification of a legal religious marriage that  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 03:51 PM   #484 
        - Pandering to bigots. I suppose that's the crux of the matter  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 03:55 PM   #490 
        - It's already been pointed out to you why it's not viable, politically or otherwise.  Maven   Jun-15-11 04:28 PM   #537 
           - Thank you, that's my point!  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 05:35 PM   #603 
           - Well it's been pointed out to me that other people disagree with my opinion  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 05:52 PM   #627 
              - There is no reason to capitulate to the bigots ignorance of the law. The govt. views marriage as a  Luminous Animal   Jun-16-11 12:33 AM   #948 
              - Well I'm glad to amuse you  el_bryanto   Jun-16-11 08:02 AM   #1012 
                 - If it is not the natural role of government, whose role is it?  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-17-11 09:23 AM   #1476 
                    - Ultimately individuals  el_bryanto   Jun-17-11 09:49 AM   #1480 
              - You've been a great challenge and I thank you for that.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 07:22 AM   #999 
              - But government is NOT going to stop licensing "marriage" for hetereosexuals ... therefore ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:32 PM   #1648 
  - I should have read your response before posting.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:03 AM   #51 
  - I used to agree with that idea  Still Sensible   Jun-15-11 09:59 AM   #45 
  - Except marriage has always been a civil union.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:01 AM   #48 
  - That's well argued; I can't deny I'm bucking tradition  el_bryanto   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #67 
     - Actually, the government being in the marriage business makes a great deal of sense.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:20 AM   #86 
  - Calling it 'marriage' may be necessary to get rights when abroad  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-15-11 10:34 AM   #114 
  - Very good point.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:46 AM   #129 
  - Male-Supremacist religion has a stake in homosexual exploitation continuing ....  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:41 PM   #1649 
  - This has long been my position as well  Blasphemer   Jun-15-11 10:37 AM   #120 
  - Except marraiges sanctioned by other entities gives them an authority they do not currently possess.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:52 AM   #138 
     - I did not mean legal sanctioning  Blasphemer   Jun-15-11 12:20 PM   #250 
  - WAIT -- DU RULES ... support homosexuality, including GAY MARRIGE ...!!  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:14 PM   #1644 
  - "It's the backwards fucks that are holding us back."  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 09:44 AM   #26 
  - Unfortunately, the folks in government are still in the age range  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:13 AM   #79 
  - My fourteen year old son made the prediction the other day...  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 10:28 AM   #102 
  - They also have a backwards attitude re Equality for Women ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:53 PM   #1651 
  - Discrimination has to be also understood as exploitation for profit by the few ....  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:47 PM   #1650 
  - i thought so too. i thought it would be fastest to get us where we wanted to go. i was so  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 10:57 AM   #149 
  - California allows civil unions for heterosexual couples, but only if at least one is over 62  slackmaster   Jun-15-11 04:14 PM   #512 
  - Because the option of marriage is open to heterosexual couples.  namahage   Jun-15-11 06:47 PM   #671 
     - Thanks! That's a reasonable explanation that I had not thought of or heard previously.  slackmaster   Jun-15-11 06:50 PM   #672 
  - My first election back in Colorado in 2006 had two initiatives:  Creideiki   Jun-16-11 06:47 AM   #988 
     - What has to be understood is the collaboration with elites who profit from exploitation ...  defendandprotect   Jun-19-11 11:59 PM   #1652 
  - rec  handmade34   Jun-15-11 09:39 AM   #20 
  - I strongly hope people get to the point where they discuss what they need from one another in order  patrice   Jun-15-11 09:41 AM   #21 
  - K&R..  Peacetrain   Jun-15-11 09:42 AM   #23 
  - I've seen more hard feelings about brands of automobiles on here and whether weiner should resign...  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 09:44 AM   #27 
  - This may be informative  Zorra   Jun-15-11 09:51 AM   #34 
  - Yes, but what about Skinner ensuring that Gays/Lesibans are always represented on MOD staff ...  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:08 AM   #1653 
  - Well, Skinner posted this for a reason. My "ignore" list had a number  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 09:55 AM   #40 
  - I don't understand what you're saying.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 10:02 AM   #50 
     - "Are you just exercising your right to be rude since there is no moderation in this thread?"  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:06 AM   #60 
     - I asked you to explain what you meant and you failed to do so.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #65 
        - Let's take a "time out" shall we, I don't want to get into the "who's got the longer schlong" thing.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:16 AM   #83 
           - As a member of the LGBT community, I feel straight people have NO RIGHT  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:20 AM   #87 
           - I think we're arguing two different points--I totally agree that the Big O hasn't done enough  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:31 AM   #109 
           - "Some of the spectacles at Gay Pride parades"  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:36 AM   #118 
           - See that's what I mean . . . one dares not even utter the phrase, heigh ho. nt  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:37 AM   #121 
           - Sorry you have such a problem with Diversity.  William769   Jun-15-11 10:43 AM   #125 
           - I have participated in pride parades myself. Now you get to call me a liar. nt  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:52 AM   #137 
              - I would never call you a liar unless you gave me reason to.  William769   Jun-15-11 11:52 AM   #208 
                 - I marched with my friends. nt  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 11:54 AM   # 
                    - Well good for you on that.  William769   Jun-15-11 11:57 AM   #219 
                    - LOL. Aren't you glad you replied?  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 12:16 PM   #240 
           - Nor would I utter the phrase "uppity" in a thread about African-Americans  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:45 AM   #127 
           - Come on ... you've been trying to be RUDE right down the entire thread ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:21 AM   #1658 
           - Public behavior by heterosexuals is so much more dignified, you see.  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 11:13 AM   #171 
           - Heh...when I read this all I could think of was Christ on a trailer hitch.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 12:11 PM   #234 
              - "Christ on a trailer hitch."?  boppers   Jun-16-11 04:25 PM   #1283 
                 - I was thinking more like this  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-16-11 05:19 PM   #1301 
           - That must be a direct quote...  pipi_k   Jun-15-11 11:57 AM   #217 
           - Yup  Puglover   Jun-15-11 03:50 PM   #480 
              - It is considered far worse here to call out homophobia than to engage in it.  QC   Jun-15-11 04:02 PM   #499 
                 - Yep nt  Vanje   Jun-15-11 04:05 PM   #502 
           - What? Spectacles?  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 10:49 AM   #131 
           - My alleged prudery is not the issue. The issue is how to sell equal rights. nt  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:54 AM   #141 
              - Oh, not really. That's not the issue.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 10:59 AM   #152 
              - The filthy hippies did not help the cause. That's a very good example.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 11:04 AM   #161 
                 - ^ WTH? ^  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:08 AM   #1431 
                 - Surprised you didn't mention "Helter Skelter" and Manson ... NO ... this was contrived ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:37 AM   #1660 
              - Sell equal rights?  William769   Jun-15-11 11:00 AM   #155 
              - Very good. Why should they have to be sold at all?  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 11:11 AM   #168 
              - The issue is how to stop oppression .... for profit -- which is what homophobia is about ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:30 AM   #1659 
           - Spectacles? "convincing middle America to accept the lifestyle"? LIFESTYLE?  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:03 AM   #160 
           - While your rights continue to be violated, you quibble with your supporters over word choice  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 11:07 AM   #166 
              - Words matter. Words like "lifestyle" have  TriMera   Jun-15-11 11:31 AM   # 
              - Or that all LGBT have one "lifestyle", that sexual orientation is a "lifestyle". It is not pc but  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 11:34 AM   # 
              - Exactly  Aerows   Jun-17-11 12:04 PM   #1502 
              - Words matter. but . . .  Dutchmaster   Jun-16-11 08:31 AM   #1021 
                 - Thank you for your response. However, I am not arguing  TriMera   Jun-16-11 02:08 PM   #1230 
                 - LGBTQ....I?  boppers   Jun-16-11 04:31 PM   #1287 
                 - Well said  Aerows   Jun-17-11 12:12 PM   #1503 
                 - I call bullshit  Creideiki   Jun-16-11 06:47 PM   #1335 
                 - As a social worker I'd assume you'd know better than this  justiceischeap   Jun-17-11 07:36 AM   #1465 
                 - You don't understand "lifestyle" as an insult to homosexuals?  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:42 AM   #1662 
              - respecting word choice shouldn't be all that difficult for a supporter  fishwax   Jun-15-11 11:55 AM   #214 
              - Rudness down the thread ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:44 AM   #1663 
              - I am left wondering if you truly do not understand how offensive you are being.  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:58 AM   #221 
              - Will Pitt "Why I Hate Liberals"  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 12:12 PM   #236 
                 - So you do know you are being offensive.  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 12:16 PM   #241 
                 - I'm old. I can remember when "queer" was bad and "lifestyle" was polite and respectful.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 12:21 PM   #252 
                    - It isn't anymore so please change. Quit using offensive terms simply because "it used to be ok" or  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 12:29 PM   #261 
                    - Calling black men "boy" and black people "coloreds" used to be ok in some areas too.  Jamastiene   Jun-17-11 09:24 AM   #1477 
                    - You know  Aerows   Jun-17-11 12:26 PM   #1506 
                 - So rather than simply saying you were wrong in using the phrase "the lifestyle", you'd rather fight?  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 12:19 PM   #246 
                 - +1!!!  Puglover   Jun-15-11 03:56 PM   #492 
                 - +1 --  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:46 AM   #1664 
                 - so why keep fighting? Just acknowledge that your word choice was off and do better next time  fishwax   Jun-15-11 12:20 PM   #249 
                 - I read that post  Aerows   Jun-17-11 12:35 PM   #1508 
              - The fact  Aerows   Jun-17-11 11:59 AM   #1500 
              - "LIFESTYLE" isn't a mere "word choice" ... it's an insult to homosexuals ...  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:40 AM   #1661 
           - Question for you, what is "the lifestyle"? You consider this word quibbling but it IS important  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 11:28 AM   #186 
           - Yeah, the pride parades should look like Bike Night  snooper2   Jun-15-11 11:49 AM   #203 
           - I've seen worse at Spring Break or Mardi Gras (and it's not a lifestyle)  TrogL   Jun-15-11 01:13 PM   #311 
           - Excellent post!  QC   Jun-15-11 01:17 PM   #321 
           - Similarly, some of the spectacles at Mardi Gras may not be the best way to convince  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 01:27 PM   #336 
           - 'the lifestyle' - great. nt  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 04:23 PM   #528 
           - That's usually a dead giveaway.  Behind the Aegis   Jun-16-11 12:03 AM   #938 
           - Oh, dear.  Heidi   Jun-16-11 08:33 AM   #1022 
           - I can only assume you believe that being left-handed is a "life-style" also, yes?  LanternWaste   Jun-16-11 12:16 PM   #1127 
           - Have you ever thought that Gay Pride is for us, not you?  Creideiki   Jun-16-11 06:27 PM   #1333 
           - 2 things  Jamastiene   Jun-17-11 09:12 AM   #1475 
           - "Lifestyle" .... ??? There's that right to be rude again ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:20 AM   #1657 
           - Honest question.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:11 AM   #169 
           - You can do it without minimizing what still needs to be done  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:51 PM   #485 
              - "argued for retaining DOMA by comparing gay relationships to incest and pedophilia"  boppers   Jun-16-11 04:43 PM   #1290 
           - This straight person agrees with you. If there's no equity then there is still  Lorien   Jun-16-11 08:52 AM   #1028 
              - +100,000,000  Zorra   Jun-16-11 11:45 AM   #1118 
              - That is so unfair. After millions of straight white males worked hard for women's rights,  mistertrickster   Jun-16-11 03:52 PM   #1266 
              - I didnt think Lorien was talking about you  Vanje   Jun-16-11 04:03 PM   #1268 
              - I'm only talking about him if the shoe fits  Lorien   Jun-16-11 04:13 PM   #1276 
                 - Like I say, I'll continue to fight for the rights of all even when I'm called a "bald faced  mistertrickster   Jun-16-11 05:12 PM   #1300 
              - Lorien didn't dis straight white males  fishwax   Jun-16-11 04:07 PM   #1271 
              - She said that 1. white males benefit from the status quo and 2. therefore  mistertrickster   Jun-16-11 07:01 PM   #1337 
                 - no, that's not what she said  fishwax   Jun-16-11 07:10 PM   #1341 
                 - She said that the same posters who appear to be anti-LGBT also appear to be anti-women's rights  mistertrickster   Jun-16-11 07:37 PM   #1346 
                    - And you claim that was dissing straight white males. But it's not.  fishwax   Jun-16-11 08:18 PM   #1351 
                 - There is a parallel in all discrimination, exploitation by patriarchy ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:59 AM   #1669 
              - Starting to look more like you're trying to distract and disrupt this thread ... !! Hi Skinner!!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:57 AM   #1668 
              - Name names. Don't hide behind "many say".  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-17-11 11:52 AM   #1499 
              - Are you trying to disrupt this thread by any chance?  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:04 AM   #1670 
              - Thank you -- and I would also point to the BULLYING on those threads ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:50 AM   #1665 
           - Ok . You are forgiven.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 12:12 PM   #235 
     - The right to be rude ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:17 AM   #1656 
  - Here is one from a couple days ago  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 10:29 AM   #104 
  - The part of that thread that is relevant to this one is this post.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:14 AM   #172 
  - man there is all kind of stupid in that article  snooper2   Jun-15-11 11:52 AM   #210 
  - I especially "like" the ones saying that a gay person can't be bigoted  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 11:59 AM   #223 
  - This is the thread I was satircally asking about upthread.  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 02:01 PM   #373 
  - Oh my god - I missed that thread.  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 01:03 PM   #296 
  - Yes, he's been doing it for years now.  QC   Jun-15-11 01:21 PM   # 
  - *sigh* I agree.  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 02:10 PM   #391 
  - ^ LOL! ^ So true, QC.  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:25 AM   #1432 
  - DU needs increased MOD supervision watching for threads like that -- Hi Skinner!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:08 AM   #1671 
  - fwiw  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:27 PM   #338 
     - Considering he's posted self congratulatory victory laps in the lounge  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 02:03 PM   #376 
        - Bingo. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 02:14 PM   #399 
        - And yet still seems to think we should buy that he is sincere.  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 10:54 AM   #1079 
        - MODS should also be alerted and watching for threads like that ... even if in Lounge. ...  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:09 AM   #1672 
  - Mr scorpio didn't mean any harm by posting that any more than folks that post WBC/Phelps quotations.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 04:31 PM   #544 
  - There is a context that long predates your arrival here. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 04:38 PM   #550 
  - I guess so. nt  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 04:46 PM   #554 
  - To give you some background, I should point out when this ongoing exchange started  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 10:18 PM   #881 
  - While still others present things the wrong way...  LanternWaste   Jun-16-11 12:20 PM   #1130 
  - Mr. Scorpio "bragging" in the Lounge about "riling up the gays" ... seems to make intent clear!!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:11 AM   #1673 
  - When I first saw that article posted, my only reaction was  Dappleganger   Jun-15-11 08:38 PM   #803 
  - I did it mainly out of curiosity  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 03:09 AM   #967 
  - If you came off the wrong way...  Dappleganger   Jun-16-11 07:12 AM   #997 
  - In the old days......(*last year)....  Vanje   Jun-16-11 12:28 PM   #1135 
  - Yikes! And no MOD saw that -- ???? Hi Skinner -- look here -- !!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:52 AM   #1666 
  - There are hard feelings....  blue_onyx   Jun-15-11 02:17 PM   #404 
  - And that comment is troublesome to you? I don't see how that would create hard feelings.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 04:23 PM   #529 
     - Are you serious?  blue_onyx   Jun-15-11 05:04 PM   #571 
     - Yeah. What's the big deal?  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-15-11 07:03 PM   #688 
        - Rather like women should not have protested to get the vote since they were involved.  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 07:26 PM   #715 
        - Nope  blue_onyx   Jun-15-11 08:25 PM   #791 
        - You say 'people' are making that argument about Prop 8  Bluenorthwest   Jun-16-11 11:04 AM   #1087 
     - Any comment which suggests that homosexuals are biased because they want human rights ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 12:54 AM   #1667 
  - I agree.  treestar   Jun-15-11 06:10 PM   #641 
     - Skinner? ^^ Posts like this.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:55 PM   #753 
     - Wow.  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 08:13 PM   #777 
     - If something does not affect her personally, it is not real.  QC   Jun-15-11 08:18 PM   #782 
     - Case in point. You care more about Obama than equality.  tekisui   Jun-16-11 07:24 AM   #1000 
     - what a suprise  mitchtv   Jun-16-11 09:33 PM   #1373 
     - Wrong.  Hissyspit   Jun-16-11 10:07 PM   #1392 
     - The Olive Garden causes harder feelings, yea..that was funny.  Jefferson23   Jun-17-11 10:18 PM   #1560 
        - She has always treated equality with this sort of breezy dismissal,  QC   Jun-17-11 10:25 PM   #1561 
  - k&r&b so can check back later  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 09:46 AM   #30 
  - I want to state publicly that I support my LGBTQ brothers and sisters 100%.  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 09:50 AM   #33 
  - +1  Tuesday Afternoon   Jun-15-11 09:55 AM   #39 
  - Really? How about when one or two take on the mantle of all gays and call you a bigot and a liar?  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 09:58 AM   #43 
  - Your communication problem with two people is not a gay issue. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-15-11 10:11 AM   #74 
  - Agreed. And it shouldn't be interpreted as such. Exactly my point. Thank you.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:21 AM   #89 
  - I don't know what you're talking about.  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 10:11 AM   #75 
  - No question but that you are trying to disrupt the thread -- Hi Skinner -- !!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:14 AM   #1674 
  - Me too!!!!  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jun-15-11 10:52 AM   #139 
  - Good work, Skinner. I'll step aside now too, but wanted to say THX.  elleng   Jun-15-11 09:56 AM   #41 
  - My two cents, and what I see....  galileoreloaded   Jun-15-11 09:59 AM   #46 
  - One of my biggest beef's is when DUers dismiss GLBT activists  tekisui   Jun-15-11 10:06 AM   #59 
  - That's the problem as I see it, too.  Bunny   Jun-15-11 10:24 AM   #94 
  - Absolutely. And it isn't just on GLBT issues. But, it is most personal  tekisui   Jun-15-11 10:27 AM   #100 
  - "some longtime assholes" Gloves are off, name names. nt  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:31 AM   #108 
  - I am hesitant to, even though there are no rules in this thread.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 10:39 AM   #123 
  - Lots of deleted posts in that thread.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 10:54 AM   #144 
  - Oh, there are plenty of posts left which exemplify the point.  Bunny   Jun-15-11 10:58 AM   #150 
  - I don't disagree. I was just saying that I couldn't see the posts  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 11:02 AM   #158 
  - "Name removed" is the new Gay.  Vanje   Jun-15-11 12:31 PM   #266 
     - One can always spot an LGBT-related thread by the number of deleted posts.  QC   Jun-15-11 12:38 PM   #271 
        - Mods ought to think about how true that is. And do things differently.  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:40 AM   #1434 
  - There are a lot of examples of assholes on both sides in that thread.  stevenleser   Jun-15-11 11:32 AM   #190 
  - Jesus. That reads like a DoD report released on a FoIA lawsuit.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:50 AM   #205 
  - It's the usual  Le Taz Hot   Jun-15-11 12:56 PM   #287 
  - Yep and blind defense of his wars without end (up to 5 now!)  tekisui   Jun-15-11 01:17 PM   #320 
  - That's them alright.  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:29 AM   #1433 
  - Agree.  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 02:06 PM   #381 
  - Fine. I've censored myself long enough.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:57 PM   #495 
     - At least one of those people trolls on other issues here.  murielm99   Jun-15-11 10:24 PM   #886 
     - You can see a number of them in this thread....  Behind the Aegis   Jun-16-11 12:01 AM   #937 
     - Or flies to shit. n/t  QC   Jun-16-11 12:14 AM   #943 
     - yup yup yup  Marrah_G   Jun-17-11 10:45 AM   #1491 
     - oh yes...  fascisthunter   Jun-17-11 05:11 PM   #1540 
     - Frenchiecat, scheming daemons, wndycty, Prosense, bigdarryl  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-18-11 04:24 AM   #1593 
     - Just say the Obama Freicorps and don't call people out.  readmoreoften   Jun-18-11 06:12 AM   #1599 
     - Should we also name the jerks who bait Obama supporters with constant snarks?  stevenleser   Jun-18-11 08:42 AM   #1602 
        - They're being baited into being homophobes! Those dastardly gays and their jedi mind tricks!  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-18-11 11:59 AM   #1605 
           - Wrong, I made no such insinuation. But it is interesting to see your kneejerk reaction and  stevenleser   Jun-18-11 12:56 PM   #1606 
  - indeed -- the rules & subsequent bannings have not been applied equally.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 10:35 AM   #116 
  - No -- your problem is you have had too little MOD supervision of GLBT issues ...interests ...  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:18 AM   #1675 
  - Agree  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 10:25 AM   #96 
  - That's a very good point. A lot of the tangible gains on the liberal side  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:36 AM   #119 
  - ^ OK! That's a good point, MisterTrickster ^  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:41 AM   #1435 
  - Perhaps this thread should be on GDP and not GD as much...  Dappleganger   Jun-16-11 07:16 AM   #998 
     - This thread is about human rights -- EVERYONE here should be interested and supportive ...!!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:21 AM   #1676 
  - 16 years and still going...  delunapark   Jun-15-11 10:06 AM   #61 
  - Even if I was hetero, or whatever, I would be upset  Zorra   Jun-15-11 10:08 AM   #69 
  - Not just on DU and other liberal sites.  Quantess   Jun-15-11 10:28 AM   #103 
  - Great discussion  texshelters   Jun-15-11 10:09 AM   #70 
  - I think most of the "problems" happen in other forums  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:10 AM   #72 
  - +1  xchrom   Jun-15-11 10:14 AM   # 
  - +1000 . . . Obama sold all us liberals out regardless of sexual orientation.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:26 AM   #97 
  - I can read your anger and I agree that the LGBT community should have full rights. Here comes the  Pisces   Jun-15-11 10:35 AM   #117 
  - I don't know that I've seen (personally) anyone on DU say he's done nothing  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 10:42 AM   #124 
  - Nonsense ... delays in human rights come because of rw backlashes -- well financed --  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:26 AM   #1677 
  - Why?  ohheckyeah   Jun-26-11 09:59 PM   #1753 
  - ^ This post. ^  Duncan Grant   Jun-15-11 10:43 AM   #126 
  - I agree completely.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 10:47 AM   #130 
  - When someone says "Obama has done nothing for LBGT issues"  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 10:54 AM   #142 
  - I wish someone could point me to a post where a LGBTer said Obama has done nothing  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 11:54 AM   #213 
     - here's one  snooper2   Jun-15-11 12:05 PM   # 
        - Thanks for this example  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 12:18 PM   #245 
  - +1  Starry Messenger   Jun-15-11 11:16 AM   #175 
  - Who said you couldn't be frustrated?  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 03:52 PM   #487 
  - My issue with you and the reason I called you out specifically is  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 06:26 PM   #655 
     - Are you citing my post as an example of being tone-deaf?  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 07:35 PM   #730 
  - "Tired of being at the back of the bus?"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:09 PM   #506 
  - "defended DOMA by comparing same-sex marriage to incest and pedophilia"  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:03 PM   #1296 
  - Maybe I'm misinterpreting the below passages...  justiceischeap   Jun-16-11 08:03 PM   #1349 
     - So, was there a direct comparison to Italians? (Catalano v. Catalano)?  boppers   Jun-16-11 08:39 PM   #1354 
        - Maybe it's a woman thing but when I read Uncle marries niece  justiceischeap   Jun-16-11 10:22 PM   #1397 
           - So, who is adding the context... that was not there?  boppers   Jun-17-11 05:12 AM   #1459 
              - An uncle marrying his niece IS incest.  readmoreoften   Jun-18-11 06:14 AM   #1600 
  - 1969 was when I got into it.  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:45 AM   #1436 
  - Damn kids. Dad just gave you boxing gloves, use 'em.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 10:11 AM   #77 
  - Hear me. Medical care is one of the issues that drove the GLBT  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 10:38 AM   #122 
     - Protesting for universal coverage at an insurance company?  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 10:51 AM   #136 
        - Um, LJ, we were there because of their inhuman treatment of  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 02:28 PM   #414 
           - HCR was an example of another of the issues that are on our plate.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 03:44 PM   #475 
           - Your snark was a poem about the regard you hold for me.  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 06:00 PM   # 
              - Whatever. Pandering to single issue voters is a waste of energy.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 10:29 PM   #888 
                 - Jeff, just yesterday you posted to me "Thanks. Didn't know that"...  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-15-11 11:24 PM   #920 
                 - Because I live in Washington.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:58 PM   #935 
                    - Hi jeff, marriage equality please, not "gay marriage" because yes, words matter and if we supporters  uppityperson   Jun-16-11 09:21 AM   #1038 
                 - Nothing in any word I wrote implied that I am a single issue voter  Bluenorthwest   Jun-16-11 11:39 AM   #1116 
                    - Nobody who's read BlueNorthwest's topics and posts could think you a single issue voter  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 12:56 AM   #1439 
           - I was doorbelling at 12 with older Democratic volunteers  Missy Vixen   Jun-16-11 10:58 PM   #1414 
  - What if you admins actually enforced the rules equitably?  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 10:14 AM   #81 
  - +1  Morning Dew   Jun-15-11 10:23 AM   #92 
  - just as an fyi, we do not  mopinko   Jun-15-11 10:25 AM   #95 
  - So you would allow clearly false things to be said about elected  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 01:12 PM   #308 
     - it is not my place to judge.  mopinko   Jun-15-11 02:42 PM   #418 
        - Well I would hope that when people do that crap as a practice  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 03:10 PM   #447 
        - We have an expression - "we are not the truth police"  TrogL   Jun-16-11 10:55 AM   #1080 
           - Why are you answering for your fellow mod?  Bluenorthwest   Jun-16-11 04:58 PM   #1293 
        - "it is not my place to judge"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:15 PM   #513 
           - It's the difference between (in the US system) a judge and jury.  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:11 PM   #1299 
              - You do know that judges sometimes determine the outcome, right?  Creideiki   Jun-16-11 06:21 PM   #1330 
                 - Sometimes their actions lead to an outcome, and sometimes people opt to not have a jury.  boppers   Jun-16-11 07:10 PM   #1340 
                    - Not always  Creideiki   Jun-16-11 08:45 PM   #1355 
                       - I haven't seen much bullying here.  boppers   Jun-16-11 10:19 PM   #1394 
                          - Believe it or not but there's a whole world outside of your own personal experiences. n/t  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-18-11 04:14 AM   #1592 
                             - Back atcha.  boppers   Jun-18-11 05:27 AM   #1597 
  - I believe that to an accurate description of things that have happened to us. Nt  xchrom   Jun-15-11 10:26 AM   #98 
  - "The list"  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 10:33 AM   #113 
  - Here's some older ones that were recurrent.  Zorra   Jun-15-11 11:12 AM   #170 
     - That's an exceptionally good post  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:17 AM   #178 
     - Thank you for this link.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-15-11 12:36 PM   #270 
     - "How can we ally together?"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:17 PM   #519 
     - Sapphocrat really knocked it out of the park with that post.  smokey nj   Jun-15-11 02:15 PM   #401 
     - That is an amazing post! Thank you.  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 02:25 PM   #411 
     - sappho is awesome -- & a certain contingency needs to be held accountable for all that is in there &  xchrom   Jun-15-11 04:25 PM   #532 
     - Fantastic post, thanks for sharing the link.  Dappleganger   Jun-16-11 09:57 AM   #1053 
  - The person is charge needs to deal with his policy of needing mod consensus  CreekDog   Jun-15-11 10:55 AM   #146 
  - Agree -- the homosexual/human rights interests here need more MODS watching ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:35 AM   #1679 
  - My Hispanic neighbor on the lot behind me says Hispanic men are fat  snooper2   Jun-15-11 12:15 PM   #239 
  - Sort of missed my point there sport.  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 01:54 PM   #362 
  - Now there's a bold, fresh idea! n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 12:39 PM   #273 
  - GLBT issues need more watchers -- more MODs with your interests in mind ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:32 AM   #1678 
  - I support full equality for everyone.  hamsterjill   Jun-15-11 10:21 AM   #88 
  - To be honest, the conversation on DU have done more to open my eyes  LiberalAndProud   Jun-15-11 10:29 AM   #105 
  - "there are issues that impact the community that us straight folks just don't get"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:19 PM   #520 
     - I'd like to know exactly what some of these issues are that straight (or LGBT) folk don't "get"  TrogL   Jun-16-11 11:17 AM   #1101 
        - No, you get to pick both!  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:23 PM   #1303 
  - Great concept  BeFree   Jun-15-11 10:30 AM   #106 
  - good move  G_j   Jun-15-11 10:31 AM   #110 
  - I, for one, welcome our gay and lesbian overlords.  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 10:46 AM   #128 
  - And some say there is no problem?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:19 PM   # 
  - oh if you only knew what I meant by that  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 10:33 PM   #894 
  - First dictate of the LGBT Non Empire: It is now illegal to sell beer.  Zorra   Jun-15-11 10:03 PM   #865 
  - Have I told you lately that I love you?  Jamastiene   Jun-17-11 09:42 AM   #1479 
  - Here ya go SKINNER .... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 3 or 4 disruptors on this thread ...  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:39 AM   #1680 
  - Where is MineralMan?  NNN0LHI   Jun-15-11 10:50 AM   #133 
  - Oh, I'm here in the thread.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 11:05 AM   #164 
     - Well, this issue is all about equal human rights as far as I can tell  NNN0LHI   Jun-15-11 11:17 AM   #179 
  - Damn. I have no accusations to make.  Bragi   Jun-15-11 10:56 AM   #148 
  - I love stories  handmade34   Jun-16-11 02:11 PM   #1233 
     - Yep, equality for everyone everywhere all the time! /nt  Bragi   Jun-16-11 09:46 PM   #1379 
  - I see mostly differences about strategy here  Proud Liberal Dem   Jun-15-11 11:00 AM   #154 
  - Jumping into the fray  notesdev   Jun-15-11 11:01 AM   #157 
  - I'm gay and I totally agree with what you're saying  Beam Me Up   Jun-15-11 11:15 AM   #174 
  - monday through friday you can visit SMW and anywhere from 560 to 100 posts re: the economy.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 11:19 AM   #180 
  - +1.  William769   Jun-15-11 11:22 AM   #181 
  - We all have an equal right to "enjoy" the end of Social Security and Medicare.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:30 AM   #187 
     - I just would like the chance to have all the rights you enjoy.  William769   Jun-15-11 11:34 AM   #192 
     - Not those of who can't GET social security benefits from a deceased partner.  Maven   Jun-15-11 02:07 PM   #384 
  - +1000  Pale Blue Dot   Jun-17-11 06:01 PM   #1545 
  - my quibble at word choice. Otherwise, +1  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 11:28 AM   #185 
  - Same shit, different day. We'll give women the right to vote next year.  Zorra   Jun-15-11 12:16 PM   #242 
  - Thank you for your post  Missy Vixen   Jun-15-11 01:16 PM   #318 
  - Thank you so very much for really getting it.  Zorra   Jun-15-11 09:16 PM   #831 
     - It's marriage or nothing. It's a life free from fear and bigotry.  Missy Vixen   Jun-15-11 11:48 PM   #933 
     - thank you Zorra, for your posts here  mitchtv   Jun-16-11 10:08 PM   #1393 
  - You are very wrong  notesdev   Jun-15-11 01:18 PM   #324 
  - This is not a FRINGE ISSUE, you entitled person.  Maven   Jun-15-11 02:08 PM   #387 
  - It most certainly is  notesdev   Jun-15-11 03:20 PM   #459 
     - ^^^ THIS. Skinner, and mods, if you want to know the problem, it's the failure to examine  Maven   Jun-15-11 03:42 PM   #474 
     - LOL  notesdev   Jun-15-11 03:47 PM   #476 
        - Thank you  Vanje   Jun-15-11 03:55 PM   #491 
        - And you're a perfect example of the banality of evil.  Maven   Jun-15-11 03:58 PM   #496 
        - "perfect example of the banality of evil" = there we go. +1000.  closeupready   Jun-19-11 10:01 AM   #1628 
        - You're accusing OTHERS of being hysterical?!  RandomKoolzip   Jun-15-11 05:02 PM   #569 
        - With each of your posts on this thread, I think you can't possibly  Bunny   Jun-15-11 05:13 PM   #580 
        - No duh!!  chervilant   Jun-15-11 11:46 PM   #932 
        - May you be banned,  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 05:35 PM   #602 
        - Don't hold your breath. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 05:37 PM   #605 
        - He won't be.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:38 PM   #607 
        - I'm going to bed now. I check tomorrow.  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 05:46 PM   #619 
        - It should be banned right now.  Puglover   Jun-15-11 08:46 PM   #811 
        - Although his comments are reprehensible  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 09:18 PM   #833 
           - Bullshit.  Puglover   Jun-15-11 09:32 PM   #847 
              - Thank you all for demonstrating the problem so clearly  notesdev   Jun-15-11 10:15 PM   #877 
                 - LOL is your word salad is supposed to make me quiver in shame?  Puglover   Jun-15-11 10:31 PM   #891 
                 - Do you understand that what you said to Maven was wrong  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 10:46 PM   #900 
                 - I really don't care  notesdev   Jun-15-11 10:54 PM   #906 
                 - I am not a militant, one issue type and I rarely jump in but you  LaurenG   Jun-16-11 04:39 AM   #973 
                    - More self-absorption  notesdev   Jun-16-11 08:52 AM   #1027 
                       - Really, this is your response, this is the best you can do?  LaurenG   Jun-16-11 09:34 AM   #1045 
                       - I find it utterly amazing when people think that equality  justiceischeap   Jun-16-11 10:20 AM   #1066 
                          - He has been ts'ed  LaurenG   Jun-16-11 11:02 AM   #1084 
                       - So a GLBT person who is poor can't want their equal rights?  mvd   Jun-16-11 10:01 AM   #1056 
                       - It appears your position on human rights...  LanternWaste   Jun-16-11 12:31 PM   #1136 
        - They're gone.  tekisui   Jun-16-11 10:48 AM   #1078 
           - ...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-16-11 03:55 PM   #1267 
              - OMFG, I love that Image!  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:40 PM   #1307 
                 - Already is:  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-16-11 05:41 PM   #1309 
        - BITE ME!  William769   Jun-15-11 05:44 PM   #614 
        - Over the top, and incorrect.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 06:58 PM   #682 
        - wow. Thank you Skinner for letting such nasty posts like this stay so we can see what posters are  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 07:31 PM   # 
        - That's probably the single meanest thing I've seen posted here  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 09:19 PM   #835 
        - But if the rules REALLY worked  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 11:14 AM   #1097 
        - wow.  fishwax   Jun-15-11 09:30 PM   #843 
        - Yup . . . the first part of your statement I agree with. I've been at the receiving end  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 09:45 PM   #855 
        - Why are you being so obstinately ignorant?  LiberalAndProud   Jun-17-11 11:29 AM   #1496 
        - Welcome to the ignore list...  Dappleganger   Jun-15-11 10:58 PM   #910 
        - LOL. Your doom and gloom binary choice is by no means reasonable.  Hosnon   Jun-16-11 12:12 AM   #940 
        - Wow - I'm stunned. You have truly exposed your nature here.  myrna minx   Jun-16-11 07:54 AM   #1010 
        - You are nasty human being and as of now- the only person on my ignore list  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 11:50 AM   #1119 
        - looks like you can take your ignore last back to empty  fishwax   Jun-16-11 12:35 PM   #1141 
           - Oh- cool! Thanks Admins/ Mods  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 01:18 PM   #1168 
        - Does a post like this keep you from being selected for a mod?  Jefferson23   Jun-17-11 10:56 PM   #1563 
           - Sad thing is, he lasted for about three years posting that sort of thing.  QC   Jun-17-11 11:01 PM   #1565 
              - I hope he was never a mod, unreal. 3 years of that, inexcusable. n/t  Jefferson23   Jun-18-11 12:44 AM   #1586 
     - Actually, one strong social justice movement inspires others. The civil rights movement...  Luminous Animal   Jun-15-11 04:03 PM   #500 
     - It must be fabulous to see into the future...  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 04:45 PM   #553 
     - The government will collapse and then mobs will kill gay sociopaths!  ZombieHorde   Jun-15-11 05:06 PM   #573 
     - God damn...  Dappleganger   Jun-15-11 10:56 PM   #907 
     - THANK YOU MODS FOR THE TS  uppityperson   Jun-16-11 04:11 PM   #1273 
        - +1  Zorra   Jun-16-11 08:48 PM   #1356 
  - The government doesn't only handle one issue at a time.  ZombieHorde   Jun-15-11 04:50 PM   #558 
  - We can multitask.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 11:16 AM   #1099 
     - *snortwaffle*  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:42 PM   #1310 
  - Equality is vital and is a "big thing."  suffragette   Jun-15-11 06:53 PM   #675 
  - Seems to me that civil rights are the most vital interests of all  LanternWaste   Jun-15-11 07:21 PM   #709 
  - "non-vital interests have to take a back seat to getting the big things right."  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-16-11 06:33 AM   #985 
  - Party is more important than human rights? Didn't know that -- !!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:45 AM   #1681 
  - No, that poster does not know how repugnant that post is. They are the BIG picture people.  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 02:05 PM   #378 
  - Frightened his little applecart of "lesser evil" voting will be disturbed ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:47 AM   #1682 
  - No,  chervilant   Jun-15-11 11:41 PM   #929 
  - Well said. And those who can't multitask shouldn't wag fingers at those of us who can  Lorien   Jun-16-11 09:00 AM   #1029 
  - Agree:  Strong Atheist   Jun-16-11 10:07 AM   #1060 
     - Yes.  Zorra   Jun-16-11 12:17 PM   #1129 
        - Thank you. nt.  Strong Atheist   Jun-16-11 01:02 PM   #1157 
  - Oh bullshit.  Maven   Jun-15-11 02:05 PM   #380 
  - No. You are simply dead fucking wrong  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 08:00 PM   #763 
  - *Does the Nelson Muntz laugh*  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-16-11 03:49 PM   #1264 
  - Can someone explain to me exactly what happened with the "purge"  WilliamPitt   Jun-15-11 11:02 AM   #159 
  - You can PM me  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:06 AM   #165 
  - Done.  WilliamPitt   Jun-15-11 11:14 AM   #173 
     - Answered- Woohoooo Bring home the Cup!!!  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:37 AM   #194 
  - Will, that is it in a nutshell.  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-15-11 03:52 PM   #488 
  - First, stop posting "The List" -- unless you include "Maine 2009".  Duncan Grant   Jun-15-11 11:04 AM   #162 
  - I don't follow the logic there.  JoePhilly   Jun-15-11 11:36 AM   #193 
  - there was no purge. just people breaking rules.  Whisp   Jun-15-11 11:31 AM   #188 
  - Yes there was  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:38 AM   #197 
  - yup  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 01:45 PM   #351 
  - I disagree on both counts.  LiberalAndProud   Jun-15-11 11:47 AM   #202 
  - Yes, there was a purge.  Missy Vixen   Jun-15-11 01:17 PM   #322 
  - If breaking rules were enough to get people banned, you would have been thrown out years ago.  QC   Jun-15-11 01:26 PM   #335 
  - +1000  Maven   Jun-15-11 02:12 PM   #393 
  - ha. typical typical.  Whisp   Jun-15-11 03:57 PM   #493 
     - Skinner? ^^ This.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:39 PM   #609 
        - But fags is catty! You didn't know that?  QC   Jun-15-11 05:51 PM   #625 
           - the catty thing is directed toward women. where have you been.  Whisp   Jun-15-11 06:00 PM   #633 
              - Pearl clutching is limited to women?  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:46 PM   #1311 
  - lol  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 01:41 PM   #348 
  - Skinner apologized for the purge that wasn't. So yes, there was a purge.  closeupready   Jun-15-11 02:09 PM   #390 
  - he wanted your money back.  Whisp   Jun-15-11 04:13 PM   #509 
  - That's not accurate.  girl gone mad   Jun-15-11 03:36 PM   #470 
  - People breaking rules?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:24 PM   #531 
  - wrong  mitchtv   Jun-15-11 09:32 PM   #845 
  - Yeah actually there was.  Puglover   Jun-15-11 10:09 PM   #874 
  - How big of a fucking idiot are you?  flvegan   Jun-15-11 10:33 PM   #893 
     - not as big a fucking idiot as you.  Whisp   Jun-15-11 10:47 PM   #901 
        - No, I think you've proven yourself wrong chilly.  flvegan   Jun-15-11 10:51 PM   #904 
           - Hey. Be nice.  boppers   Jun-16-11 05:49 PM   #1312 
  - I feel it is very important to minimize moderation.  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 11:32 AM   #189 
  - i have been on other forums like that, but there was a respect thing going on. du is big. and it  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 11:40 AM   #198 
  - The other forum is just as big.  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 11:52 AM   #212 
  - What seabeyond says above, and also: is that other forum primarily political?  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-15-11 11:58 AM   #222 
  - So what is the problem?  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 12:22 PM   #254 
     - I'm not sure what you mean by 'struck down', then  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-15-11 12:40 PM   #275 
        - Struck down means exposed through the group  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 01:11 PM   #304 
           - To most trolls here, a reprimand is just an indication they have succeeded  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-15-11 05:54 PM   #628 
              - Excellent comments.  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 06:36 PM   #665 
  - I disagree completely with your defintion of mature.  Bunny   Jun-15-11 12:56 PM   #288 
     - The mods will protect you.  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 01:15 PM   #314 
     - I'm grateful to you for not saying more.  Bunny   Jun-15-11 01:33 PM   #344 
     - You're exactly right . . . who says it makes all the difference in the world.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:03 PM   #866 
     - lol bunny  seabeyond   Jun-15-11 02:08 PM   #388 
  - Maybe it's time to start banning blatant homophobes. Or at least stop making them moderators.  LeftyMom   Jun-15-11 11:38 AM   #195 
  - Hey!  LaurenG   Jun-15-11 01:44 PM   #350 
  - +1  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 03:28 PM   #463 
  - +  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 04:13 PM   #510 
  - + 100  RetroLounge   Jun-15-11 06:19 PM   #651 
  - OK. Gloves off. Name the homophobic moderators and provide evidence  TrogL   Jun-15-11 06:52 PM   #674 
  - Sure. Give me a couple of hours to dig up links. nt  LeftyMom   Jun-15-11 07:12 PM   #699 
  - A few of the worst offenders showed up on this thread.  LeftyMom   Jun-15-11 09:26 PM   #841 
  - Well hell, this POS thread just got a little bit better.  Ignis   Jun-15-11 07:42 PM   #739 
  - .  LeftyMom   Jun-15-11 09:30 PM   #844 
  - I'm just gonna stand here, behind her in agreement.  flvegan   Jun-15-11 10:31 PM   #890 
  - Thank you love.  LeftyMom   Jun-15-11 10:43 PM   #898 
     - .  flvegan   Jun-15-11 10:49 PM   #903 
     - OMG get a room!!!!!  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 12:06 PM   #1121 
  - This thread is meaningless without discussions re biased MODS ... and more MOD supervision  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:56 AM   #1684 
  - The problem is, it's impossible to be 100% supportive of Obama *and* 100% supportive of equal rights  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 11:38 AM   #196 
  - This is one of the huge problems  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:50 AM   #206 
  - This is the kind of hyperbole that pisses me off  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 12:07 PM   #231 
  - The problem is not about support for Obama, it is about support for equal rights.  boston bean   Jun-15-11 12:12 PM   #237 
  - We agree that some would sell LGBT rights down the river for Obama's sake  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 12:17 PM   #244 
     - There is a lot of what I describe going on here on DU. Those people who  boston bean   Jun-15-11 12:24 PM   #256 
        - There is some, just as there was some blaming of African Americans  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 12:31 PM   #265 
        - I think the point would probably be echoed by most LGBTers.  boston bean   Jun-15-11 12:33 PM   #268 
        - Let me pose a hypothetical question to you:  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 12:40 PM   #276 
        - I'd keel over dead and wouldn't be around to vote.  boston bean   Jun-15-11 01:01 PM   #293 
        - That was evasive.  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 01:11 PM   #303 
           - I see you still missed my point. go back and read again. nt  boston bean   Jun-15-11 01:13 PM   #310 
              - Oh, no, I got your point precisely.  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 01:15 PM   #315 
                 - There is no answer to your question.  boston bean   Jun-15-11 01:20 PM   #329 
        - Thats not a hypothetical, it's an impossibility and you know it.  William769   Jun-15-11 01:02 PM   #295 
        - Not really true.  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 01:08 PM   #300 
           - A Republican who supports gay rights *cannot* win the primary (nt)  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 01:11 PM   #305 
              - And a Black Man will never be President in this country.  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 01:15 PM   #316 
              - I never heard anyone claim that (nt)  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 01:16 PM   #319 
                 - But I have.  Ikonoklast   Jun-15-11 01:18 PM   #326 
                    - Is it nice?  William769   Jun-15-11 01:27 PM   #339 
              - A union leader cannot be a republican president.  boppers   Jun-16-11 06:07 PM   #1324 
        - self delete  LanternWaste   Jun-15-11 03:54 PM   #489 
        - Really?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:34 PM   #548 
        - The only honest answer in that entire exchange.  Ikonoklast   Jun-16-11 05:01 PM   #1295 
        - You're making the insulting suggestion again that those who want to move to the LEFT ...  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 02:04 AM   #1687 
        - +1000% --- exactly -- K/R for your post --  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 01:58 AM   #1686 
  - If we had a President who opposed interracial marriage, I would call that a "disgrace".  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 12:39 PM   #272 
  - You tried this line with me before. And you didn't call his position on marriage a ":disgrace"  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 12:53 PM   #283 
  - Isn't marriage a significant "right"?  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 01:09 PM   #302 
  - It is one, but there are others. So--you have now narrowed the definition?  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 01:18 PM   #323 
     - BTW when I say "gay rights" I include LGBTQI etc. It's just too many letters to remember (nt)  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 01:26 PM   #334 
        - I appreciate that, but I think you know  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 01:51 PM   #357 
           - I like what you're saying TishLA  mitchtv   Jun-16-11 10:24 PM   #1398 
              - +++++++++++++++++++++++!!!! nt  Vanje   Jun-16-11 10:28 PM   #1399 
  - Obama is against gay marriage! Shameful; especially when based on male-supremacist religion -- !!!  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 02:09 AM   #1688 
  - Who gives a shit about a stupid acknowledgement? Obama will never stand in the way of gay marriage.  phleshdef   Jun-15-11 06:34 PM   #661 
     - "I believe that marriage is between two people of the same race".  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 07:00 PM   #683 
        - In the year 2011, yea. If the year was early 1900s or earlier, no.  phleshdef   Jun-15-11 07:20 PM   #707 
           - So you *expect* 50 year olds to be bigoted, because bigotry was drummed into them at an early age.  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 07:51 PM   #750 
           - No, but its a problem with his personal beliefs on marriage from a religious standpoint  phleshdef   Jun-15-11 10:57 PM   #908 
              - Ah. "States Rights". That sounds strangely familiar..... (nt)  Nye Bevan   Jun-15-11 11:07 PM   #912 
                 - Yea, sounds just like how fucking marriage laws work for straight people!  phleshdef   Jun-16-11 12:37 AM   #949 
                    - States have always had an enormous amount of power over marriage recognition...  WillParkinson   Jun-18-11 05:46 AM   #1598 
           - The thing is, a Democratic President of the United States in the year 2011, arguably  Zorra   Jun-16-11 09:16 PM   #1366 
  - Well, will Obama apologize for the DOMA argument  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:27 PM   #534 
  - someone should apologize for it  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 04:32 PM   #545 
  - And again, this strawman.  boppers   Jun-16-11 06:11 PM   #1326 
  - ^ +1000 ^  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 01:31 AM   #1444 
  - I have a problem with anyone being 100% supportive of Obama....  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 12:08 PM   #232 
  - Personally, I think it's impossible to support anyone 100%.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 12:28 PM   #260 
     - One can only support another person 100% on the basis of personality.  QC   Jun-15-11 12:49 PM   #281 
        - You could be right. I'm here on my own and don't subscribe  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 01:08 PM   #299 
        - Skinner, if you take only one post to heart THIS IS THE ONE  carolinayellowdog   Jun-16-11 04:19 AM   #972 
        - I think we need to have a more open discussion about professional posters on DU.  woo me with science   Jun-16-11 10:26 AM   #1069 
        - Pugnacious persistent defenders of entrenched interests  carolinayellowdog   Jun-16-11 02:50 PM   #1245 
        - Skinner needs to be making rules based on what members need -- not what  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 02:13 AM   #1689 
        - OK, name names.  TrogL   Jun-16-11 01:19 PM   #1169 
           - Ask for the poster to send the names to Skinner -- that's all that's required ....  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 02:15 AM   #1690 
  - Having a conversation.  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 11:50 AM   #204 
  - Thank you- I wish I could put my thoughts in writing as well as you have  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 11:52 AM   #209 
  - I had to write what I felt first  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 11:55 AM   #216 
  - +1,000,000. n/t  TriMera   Jun-15-11 11:55 AM   #215 
  - Thank you for understanding why Obama's "accomplishments" don't seem so great  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 12:03 PM   #228 
  - Every little step is helpful,  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 12:20 PM   #248 
     - What you write makes a lot of sense  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 12:25 PM   #257 
     - Exactly.  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 12:27 PM   #259 
     - Wedge issues are the moneymakers of the right  Still Sensible   Jun-15-11 02:05 PM   #379 
        - That is very true.  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 02:46 PM   #423 
     - The bottom line is that Obama does not support LGBT rights on a personal level  Missy Vixen   Jun-15-11 02:32 PM   #416 
     - I actually think the opposite of him  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 02:43 PM   #419 
        - I think you are wrong about this.  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 02:52 PM   #428 
           - I can more easily get past Warren or McClurkin than marriage equality  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 03:26 PM   #462 
              - Things that are 'symbolic' that are also other things:  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 07:24 PM   #713 
                 - you'll notice I didn't say I approved of them  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 07:32 PM   #726 
                 - I do understand that. Absolutley.  Bluenorthwest   Jun-16-11 11:12 AM   #1096 
                 - Thanks Bluenorthwest!  MuseRider   Jun-16-11 11:03 AM   #1085 
     - I agree with you completely.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-16-11 07:09 AM   #996 
  - Absolutely agreed  supernova   Jun-15-11 12:20 PM   #251 
  - Remember when politically correct  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 12:31 PM   #267 
  - Perhaps the best post in this thread so far.  bullwinkle428   Jun-15-11 12:23 PM   #255 
  - Thanks!  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 12:36 PM   #269 
  - I've never really learned the gentle way to do anything.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 02:12 PM   #395 
  - My only question is this: What can I do?  Taverner   Jun-15-11 11:52 AM   #211 
  - Join your local LGBT organization.  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 11:57 AM   #218 
  - Join PFLAG.  William769   Jun-15-11 12:01 PM   #224 
  - I can give you one tip for getting started.  Pacifist Patriot   Jun-15-11 12:06 PM   #230 
     - Language is for me the hardest part.  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 12:22 PM   #253 
     - OK  Taverner   Jun-15-11 01:00 PM   #291 
     - I have used the wrong language but apologized and corrected myself when pointed out to me  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:01 PM   #294 
        - This is exactly what needs to happen.  MuseRider   Jun-16-11 02:12 PM   #1234 
  - With all due respect, I don't think getting yourself out of the way is the answer.  Starry Messenger   Jun-15-11 12:02 PM   #225 
  - +1  Bunny   Jun-15-11 12:16 PM   #243 
  - +1  Marcel   Jun-15-11 03:32 PM   #465 
  - I support Equality 100%  supernova   Jun-15-11 12:05 PM   #229 
  - Isn't it ironic? The one LGBT thread we can flame all we want....  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 12:09 PM   #233 
  - I always try to be polite when the discussion is serious.  William769   Jun-15-11 12:15 PM   #238 
  - +100.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 12:31 PM   #264 
  - Though I do notice a few posters haven't chimed in yet.  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 12:55 PM   #285 
  - Yes, there are some very conspicuous absences.  QC   Jun-15-11 12:57 PM   #289 
     - What is "the list"? thanks.  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:07 PM   #298 
        - Yes, I saw her invaluable contribution to the discussion.  QC   Jun-15-11 01:12 PM   #307 
        - the list is the accomplishments re: LGBT issues paraded out by Obama supporters  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 01:13 PM   #312 
           - Ah, thank you. Not the list I thought you meant. My take on that list  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:19 PM   #328 
           - I couldn't agree more  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 01:27 PM   #337 
           - The annoyance comes from the motives behind why it is posted.  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 01:28 PM   #341 
              - I honestly don't know the motives  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 01:38 PM   #346 
              - I get rather annoyed being told  mitchtv   Jun-16-11 10:49 PM   #1410 
  - The most egregious offenders haven't shown up yet.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 01:19 PM   #327 
  - And they probably won't. nt  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 02:44 PM   #420 
  - That would probably explain why this has been a pretty polite thread, all in all. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 06:15 PM   #646 
  - If this thread had been posted on GDP they would.  Dappleganger   Jun-16-11 10:20 AM   #1067 
  - Well our gay friends  hootinholler   Jun-15-11 02:23 PM   #408 
  - Why is the LGBT community on DU treated differently? Why aren't they our equals (straight community)  DainBramaged   Jun-15-11 12:27 PM   #258 
  - One other thing I'd like to point out about the LGBT community  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 12:29 PM   #262 
  - It's not an issue, it's about rights.  boston bean   Jun-15-11 12:44 PM   #279 
  - Thanks, Skinner, for this thread  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 12:45 PM   #280 
  - I personally wish you would avoid GBLT topics  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 12:57 PM   #290 
  - So very seconded. But he's just their point man. He does the  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 01:16 PM   #317 
  - Wish I could kick and rec this  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 01:31 PM   #342 
  - Who are "they"?  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 02:49 PM   #425 
     - Tx4Obama, Tarheel_Dem, phleshdef, AtomicKitten  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 04:55 PM   #563 
        - I should clear up something  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 06:02 PM   #636 
  - I never knew that I came off as whining Sorry if I did.  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 01:49 PM   #354 
     - Let me use small words. The problem was not the article but you asking "is this true in your case".  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:55 PM   #365 
     - Ok, Mea culpa on a haphazardly framing of the question...  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 02:15 PM   #402 
     - "However, I don't think that it's helpful to anyone if we stifle discussion about how,  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 03:13 PM   #448 
     - Well, of course it should happen now. There's no questioning this  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 03:39 PM   #473 
        - Setbacks?  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 03:58 PM   #497 
        - I would consider the passage of Prop 8 to be such a setback  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 05:24 PM   #587 
        - "I would prefer that the people I do piss off tell me that they are and why."  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 05:34 PM   #600 
           - Well at least I know how you feel about me  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 05:45 PM   #616 
     - Cut the shit. Do you thing we should have equal rights or not? If not when?  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 05:13 PM   #581 
        - LGBTs do not have equal rights today  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 05:30 PM   #595 
  - I would like to know why you post stereotypes then ask DUers if they fit it.  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:14 PM   #313 
  - I should point out as I did before in my other reply...  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 01:57 PM   #369 
     - No, but YOU are the one who asked "is this true in your case" about stereotypes.  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 02:00 PM   #372 
     - Dupe  Vanje   Jun-15-11 02:06 PM   #383 
     - You "had no way of knowing if his assertions had merit"?  Vanje   Jun-15-11 02:08 PM   #385 
        - Yes, really. So I asked a poorly worded question  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 02:44 PM   #421 
           - Well, then  Vanje   Jun-15-11 02:56 PM   #434 
              - Sure, but let me ask you this...  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 03:04 PM   #442 
                 - I dont know  Vanje   Jun-15-11 03:18 PM   #456 
                    - Right, and I don't know either.  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 03:52 PM   #486 
  - I don't find you problematic but...  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 07:58 PM   #758 
     - I hope that you don't mind if I ask for something to be clarified  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 08:28 PM   #795 
        - I'm talking about the content of that thread  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 09:01 PM   #820 
           - Thanks. I'm glad that you cleared that up for me. nt  MrScorpio   Jun-15-11 09:07 PM   #825 
  - What I never get is why a lot of guys think two men having anal sex is disgusting  snooper2   Jun-15-11 12:51 PM   #282 
  - Um. Do you really think....  Vanje   Jun-15-11 01:49 PM   #353 
  - no, i was talking about a certain attitude  snooper2   Jun-15-11 01:57 PM   #367 
     - I was also going to blast you, but wanted to see what you wrote. Do you mean the attitude  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 02:03 PM   #375 
        - exactly, hard to word without getting run over by a fucking semi here  snooper2   Jun-15-11 02:08 PM   #386 
           - Well...  City of Mills   Jun-15-11 02:23 PM   #409 
              - Ya know  Vanje   Jun-15-11 02:31 PM   #415 
                 - Go back and read #282  City of Mills   Jun-15-11 02:35 PM   #417 
  - This thread is not about sex acts in any way.  MineralMan   Jun-15-11 03:14 PM   #450 
  - I'm a stickler for labels, it's actually LGBTIQ, the I and Q are for  TaupeDem   Jun-15-11 12:54 PM   #284 
  - Some people add a second "Q" for "queer"  TrogL   Jun-15-11 02:58 PM   #436 
  - LGBT  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:00 PM   #567 
     - It's nowhere's near that simple  TrogL   Jun-15-11 07:05 PM   #690 
     - You're just being insensitive and insulting by calling the BT Bacon and Tomato. EOM  TaupeDem   Jun-15-11 09:21 PM   #837 
     - I think ''Gay'' is the 'umbrella term'  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 01:47 AM   #1448 
  - In this corner we have insensitive assholes  JNelson6563   Jun-15-11 01:00 PM   #292 
  - Thank you for joining in to try and work this out. Appreciate your concern and attempts to clear up  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:06 PM   #297 
  - Perhaps your tears will help wash it all away.  JNelson6563   Jun-15-11 02:20 PM   #406 
     - This /\. This poster right up here  Vanje   Jun-15-11 02:24 PM   #410 
     - In this corner we have insensitive asshole  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 07:20 PM   #704 
  - Which corner are you in?  Vanje   Jun-15-11 01:09 PM   #301 
     - I think we have all known the answer to that question for a very long time. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 01:13 PM   #309 
     - Neither, that's why I skip the topic at DU  JNelson6563   Jun-15-11 01:18 PM   #325 
        - You "skip the topic" except to come insult? And this helps...how?  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:21 PM   #330 
        - Well let's see  JNelson6563   Jun-15-11 02:15 PM   #403 
           - You come and insult everyone, then complain that the discussion is not productive or grownup?  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 07:18 PM   #703 
        - People who desire equality and civil rights are "zealots?" wtf?  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 01:45 PM   #352 
           - Yes, they are either "insensitive assholes" or "perpetually put-up on victim who can interpret the..  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 01:49 PM   #355 
           - Caught that  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 02:13 PM   #397 
           - lolz Thanks for demonstrating the point.  JNelson6563   Jun-15-11 02:18 PM   #405 
              - "Enemy" is a strong word. However, if you disagree on human civil rights  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 02:26 PM   #413 
  - OK... Then I'll give it as I see it  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 01:21 PM   #331 
  - Thank you Joe!!!  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 01:23 PM   #333 
  - Thank you.  William769   Jun-15-11 01:32 PM   #343 
  - +10000  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 01:33 PM   #345 
  - It scares the shit out of me  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 01:52 PM   #361 
     - Hetero here too; and it scares the crap out of me also  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 02:15 PM   #400 
  - Absolutely. And the Obama apologists are the offenders here.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 01:52 PM   #359 
  - Since we can say what we want here...  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 02:01 PM   #374 
  - I am in the same boat. I will always prefer Obama over a repug.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 02:03 PM   #377 
     - I don't like the dichotomous posting and insults.  uppityperson   Jun-15-11 02:08 PM   #389 
        - I agree with you, and I admit I am all too easy to take the bait.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 02:13 PM   #396 
           - It's true... and it bothers me  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 02:55 PM   #433 
              - "In the best of times I am a vile and obscene man"  ZombieHorde   Jun-15-11 04:02 PM   #498 
  - Interesting. This double-talk needs to be remembered the next time  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 05:32 PM   #598 
  - Well, you telling a reasonable poster recently that he was in "victim mode" wasn't very helpful  ruggerson   Jun-15-11 07:02 PM   # 
  - I have to agree saying someone is in "victim mode" is  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 07:09 PM   #694 
  - See my response to Ruggerson.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 07:56 PM   #755 
  - So now it's off-limits to assert that?  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 07:41 PM   #736 
     - Nothing is off limits  ruggerson   Jun-15-11 08:15 PM   #778 
     - I'm going to disagree on that characterization  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 08:37 PM   #802 
        - The problem is you are defending an in-defense-able action  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 09:21 PM   #838 
        - OK, so let's draw the "Agree to Disagree" line right there.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 09:36 PM   #851 
           - But don't you see.... This is exactly what causes the label  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 09:56 PM   #862 
              - That's a lot of (incorrect) inference from one post.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 10:57 PM   #909 
                 - Perhaps  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 11:39 PM   #926 
                    - Sorry. There's just no nefarious intent to be read into that. n/t  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 02:46 AM   #965 
        - I think I agree with most of what you wrote here  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 09:33 PM   #848 
           - Fair enough.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 09:42 PM   #852 
     - You also asserted "GLBTers are NOT being attacked by DUers."  Ignis   Jun-16-11 01:28 PM   #1176 
  - You all know who you are. So do we. You are painfully obvious.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 07:27 PM   #718 
  - Your opinion is duly noted, thanks!  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 07:44 PM   #742 
  - Check the mirror  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 09:53 AM   #1051 
     - Wave with one hand,  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 06:19 PM   #1329 
  - Criticize Obama on the facts, and I won't bite.  boppers   Jun-16-11 06:26 PM   #1331 
  - The facts are that President Obama has not done enough for equal rights  Ohio Joe   Jun-16-11 11:55 PM   #1429 
     - No President has done "enough", IMNSHO.  boppers   Jun-17-11 01:46 AM   #1447 
     - So you want to eliminate death and poverty first?  Ohio Joe   Jun-17-11 07:22 AM   #1463 
        - LOL, not quite, but interesting take.  boppers   Jun-17-11 04:51 PM   #1537 
     - Okay, it's that dismissive attitude towards the President that pisses me off  WonderGrunion   Jun-17-11 04:08 PM   #1529 
        - And it's that dismissive attitude that pisses off equal rights supporters  Ohio Joe   Jun-17-11 05:26 PM   #1541 
  - You nailed that one.  Vattel   Jun-19-11 10:56 PM   #1641 
  - Woo Hoo!  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 01:58 PM   #370 
  - Wow!  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 02:12 PM   #392 
  - Exactly.  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 04:15 PM   #514 
  - +1  shireen   Jun-16-11 12:25 AM   #947 
  - Agree. And DU is not the place for bigots to be brought around.  Heidi   Jun-16-11 01:56 PM   #1218 
     - I gotta chime in on this...  OhioBlue   Jun-16-11 10:47 PM   #1409 
        - I disagree, I honestly do. Opposition to full marriage equality IS bigotry.  Zenlitened   Jun-17-11 12:02 PM   #1501 
  - The way I see it is...  gaspee   Jun-15-11 01:22 PM   #332 
  - One issue voter bullshit is, well, bullshit  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 01:52 PM   #358 
  - and don't forget -- racists. lgbtiq people were brodbrushed and are still being broadbrushed  xchrom   Jun-15-11 01:57 PM   #368 
  - I'll be more aware as time goes on...  LanternWaste   Jun-15-11 01:28 PM   #340 
  - Well, here goes...not going to be pretty.  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 01:50 PM   #356 
  - Ahem.... Woohoo!!!!!!!! nt  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 01:55 PM   #364 
  - !!!!  tekisui   Jun-15-11 01:59 PM   #371 
  - ~Standing Ovation~  Marrah_G   Jun-15-11 02:12 PM   #394 
  - Exactly ... and imo why wouldn't every democrat be outraged by Obama and Warren?  defendandprotect   Jun-20-11 10:34 PM   #1707 
  - How about this...  madinmaryland   Jun-15-11 01:52 PM   #360 
  - How about this? Dick Cheney is to the left of Obama  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 01:56 PM   #366 
  - Here's the problem, Skinner - too many members here want us to be fairies and simpering queens.  closeupready   Jun-15-11 02:06 PM   #382 
  - One tiny point  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 03:10 PM   #446 
  - Good for you! You are a brave soul, and I mean that.  closeupready   Jun-15-11 03:19 PM   #457 
     - It isn't, but I am straight  MuseRider   Jun-15-11 03:50 PM   #481 
  - More LGBT mods are needed. n/t  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 01:54 AM   #1449 
     - OK, get some to volunteer  TrogL   Jun-17-11 05:40 AM   #1461 
        - I have. Twice.  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 01:49 PM   #1519 
  - OK here is my take  dsc   Jun-15-11 02:13 PM   #398 
  - +1,000,000  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-15-11 07:02 PM   #686 
  - Full equality.  democrank   Jun-15-11 02:47 PM   #424 
  - *Rushes into the room huffing and puffing*  Fearless   Jun-15-11 02:50 PM   #426 
  - LGBT members of DU! You have a staunch straight African American Male  ej510   Jun-15-11 02:51 PM   #427 
  - Thank you!  QC   Jun-15-11 02:54 PM   #430 
  - Wrong place. Del.  Fearless   Jun-15-11 02:55 PM   #431 
  - +++++++!!  Vanje   Jun-15-11 03:00 PM   #437 
  - Thank you.  myrna minx   Jun-15-11 07:46 PM   #743 
  - And you have a staunch Female White Bi supporter of your rights here too :)  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 09:57 AM   #1052 
  - Wow! And I have loved your posts on everything!  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 01:57 AM   #1450 
  - DU's moderation ensures it is a hostile place for LGBTers  Prism   Jun-15-11 02:53 PM   #429 
  - I do not think the problem is the mods but rather the technicality  Ohio Joe   Jun-15-11 03:07 PM   #445 
  - I could at least understand it if that were the case.  Prism   Jun-15-11 05:14 PM   #582 
  - The fact that I posted a parody list aimed at another minority group  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:07 PM   #575 
     - + a bazillion! nt  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 07:10 PM   #696 
  - I think this is an important experiement. I believe that people do get out of hand on occasion but w  rhett o rick   Jun-15-11 02:55 PM   #432 
  - I think DOMA and DADT are two very evil and hateful pieces of legislation that  Initech   Jun-15-11 02:56 PM   #435 
  - To me those pieces of legislation can be seen a form of Jim Crow.  ej510   Jun-15-11 03:06 PM   #444 
  - homophobic moderators  mopinko   Jun-15-11 03:00 PM   #438 
  - an addendum or two  lazarus   Jun-15-11 03:19 PM   #458 
  - Hi laz. (side post) Not sure if this is really about us, or should be about us.  pinto   Jun-15-11 03:35 PM   #469 
  - understood, just wanted to clarify a little  lazarus   Jun-15-11 03:38 PM   #471 
  - Pinto,  TBF   Jun-15-11 04:19 PM   #523 
  - too bad - I think it needs to be out in the open - moderators are members too  TrogL   Jun-15-11 04:27 PM   #535 
     - Please let me put my two cents in...I, too, was a moderator here back  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 06:14 PM   #644 
  - "And if we can't reach consensus, if one mod disagrees, then nothing is done."  QC   Jun-15-11 03:39 PM   #472 
  - that only applies to mod actions  lazarus   Jun-15-11 03:49 PM   #478 
  - Thanks for giving us some insight into the process.  QC   Jun-15-11 03:57 PM   #494 
  - Have you dealt much with bullies?  TrogL   Jun-15-11 04:33 PM   #547 
     - Oh yes, I had a lot of dealings with them in my childhood.  QC   Jun-15-11 04:48 PM   #556 
        - Hi QC. Appreciate your input. Seldom share personal info here, but I too have been different...  pinto   Jun-15-11 07:30 PM   #722 
           - Thank you for sharing that with us. I mean it.  QC   Jun-15-11 07:54 PM   #752 
  - You don't need one lone homophobic moderator protecting the bullies  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:21 PM   #585 
  - When an alert comes in we look at the post (or OP), we click into the thread to see  Chemisse   Jun-15-11 06:24 PM   #652 
  - That's an excellent point, and the bullies are very skilled at keeping their hateful remarks  QC   Jun-15-11 06:55 PM   #678 
  - Or the worst stuff, or patterns, gets disappeared.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-15-11 07:05 PM   #691 
  - I have a solution.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:17 PM   #701 
     - mods do not make that decision.  mopinko   Jun-16-11 09:34 AM   #1044 
        - Well, to be honest, if they could  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 01:27 PM   #1175 
  - Yep. It's a pattern.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-15-11 07:18 PM   #702 
  - And sadly, too often  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:29 PM   #721 
  - I have a question  Marrah_G   Jun-17-11 11:01 AM   #1493 
  - "This place does not have an LGBT problem so much as it has a bullying problem."  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-15-11 07:12 PM   #698 
     - Thanks!  QC   Jun-15-11 07:20 PM   #705 
        - It's not just incivility, in this particular case.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-15-11 07:58 PM   #760 
  - Laz, I have to disagree with you on one point...There is a moderator who currently mods  Heddi   Jun-15-11 07:48 PM   #747 
     - Nice to have confirmation of what was only strongly suspected.  Prism   Jun-15-11 08:09 PM   #775 
     - I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to me me v them  Heddi   Jun-15-11 08:46 PM   #810 
        - I always knew I liked you, even when we disagreed; which wasn't often.  Behind the Aegis   Jun-16-11 12:18 AM   #944 
        - .  myrna minx   Jun-16-11 08:18 AM   #1016 
        - because of my posts in this thread, my moderator privileges have been revoked  Heddi   Jun-16-11 10:09 AM   #1063 
           - I was just going to ask you about that  WhollyHeretic   Jun-16-11 10:23 AM   #1068 
           - Sadly I'm not surprised. Thank you for stating the truth anyhow.  LeftyMom   Jun-16-11 10:37 AM   #1074 
           - I wish I could say that I am surprised,  QC   Jun-16-11 11:15 AM   #1098 
           - Apparently, the three of them still are.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 11:27 AM   #1108 
           - Repeating my statements from down-thread  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 11:24 AM   #1104 
           - WORD!  Vanje   Jun-16-11 12:58 PM   #1149 
           - You might as well tell us who YOU think are the biased/bigoted mods.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-16-11 12:16 PM   #1128 
           - I'm sorry....  Vanje   Jun-16-11 12:56 PM   #1148 
           - Bravo, and thank you, for posting up.  Zorra   Jun-16-11 01:45 PM   #1201 
           - okay, so we know that DU will act quickly if a moderator pulls back the curtain  CreekDog   Jun-16-11 03:35 PM   #1257 
           - Seriously? That really sucks. So they won't delete posts, but will take away mod privileges?  uppityperson   Jun-16-11 04:16 PM   #1278 
           - Wow! They locked the thread about how your mod privilieges were locked.  McCamy Taylor   Jun-16-11 09:29 PM   #1371 
     - This explains a lot. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 08:37 PM   #801 
     - Thank you for confirming what has been obvious to many of us for a long time.  yardwork   Jun-15-11 09:10 PM   #827 
     - Bravo for your honest braveness, while so many have been so dishonest.  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 09:21 PM   #839 
     - This is incredibly brave.  Ignis   Jun-16-11 01:31 AM   #957 
     - Thank you.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jun-16-11 05:58 AM   #981 
     - gee heddi, why don't you just name names.  mopinko   Jun-16-11 09:42 AM   #1047 
     - She doesn't need to name names.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 11:33 AM   #1112 
     - if she does as you say, she may get into some trouble...are you baiting her?  CreekDog   Jun-16-11 03:47 PM   #1263 
     - I am now going to exercise my ESP.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-16-11 04:08 PM   #1272 
     - As a former mod for several terms, I stand with you, Heddi.  Lex   Jun-16-11 09:31 PM   #1372 
     - This is a game changer, and I appreciate your candor more than I can express  Jefferson23   Jun-18-11 02:06 PM   #1609 
     - there are mod cliques..I've known that for quite some time  TK421   Jun-20-11 07:05 PM   #1702 
  - You know, Mo, if you're serious about the amount of work it is  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:08 PM   #576 
  - i honestly have no idea what you are talking about.  mopinko   Jun-15-11 05:45 PM   #615 
     - "i honestly have no idea what you are talking about"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:48 PM   #623 
        - please give me an example.  mopinko   Jun-15-11 05:56 PM   #630 
        - Be specific  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 07:38 PM   #734 
           - Not mopinko (my real problems with her are mainly in the past)  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:48 PM   #745 
              - I don't see why the OP is overboard for DU but...  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 07:55 PM   #754 
              - And as we've been saying, it's a pattern.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:00 PM   #762 
              - A few things members probably don't know about the moderation process.  NYC_SKP   Jun-15-11 08:28 PM   #794 
              - A few things moderators probably don't know about a lot of DUers.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-16-11 12:08 PM   #1122 
              - We KNOW...and it's easy to figure out why you can't get sexist threads locked  CreekDog   Jun-16-11 03:42 PM   #1261 
              - The topic in question is stereotyping straight people.  Fearless   Jun-19-11 01:01 AM   #1620 
  - Okay, let me clarify and extend my comments on this one.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:27 PM   #590 
  - +1000.  William769   Jun-15-11 06:14 PM   #643 
  - truth. nt  xchrom   Jun-15-11 06:17 PM   #647 
  - well, lets keep talking  mopinko   Jun-15-11 06:56 PM   #679 
     - The fact you bring up "you never know who deleted your post"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:24 PM   #712 
        - And the thing is, on a normal day, your post would be deleted....  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 07:41 PM   #738 
        - You have no clue what post I'm talking about.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:08 PM   #772 
           - What I mean is the post I was responding to in this thread would ordinarily be locked  Bluebear   Jun-15-11 09:16 PM   #832 
        - i brought that up to make sure you understood  mopinko   Jun-15-11 08:08 PM   #773 
        - Mo, at best it's too little too late.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:16 PM   #779 
           - well, it sounds like trust will never be found  mopinko   Jun-16-11 09:40 AM   #1046 
        - I've deleted LGBT posts, why not start in on me?  TrogL   Jun-16-11 01:56 AM   #960 
           - Really.  Vanje   Jun-16-11 01:00 PM   #1155 
  - Some mods are volunteers with abusive power.  William769   Jun-15-11 06:10 PM   #640 
  - One of the most fair-minded and decent people on DU lost her mod privileges this morning.  LeftyMom   Jun-16-11 11:16 AM   #1100 
     - My problem with Heddi losing her mod privileges is that at the opening of this thread  justiceischeap   Jun-16-11 12:59 PM   #1153 
     - Truth to power  Vanje   Jun-16-11 01:04 PM   #1159 
  - Hi all. I think we've missed some opportunities in our various misunderstandings.  pinto   Jun-15-11 03:03 PM   #441 
  - Being Bi, I have always felt sort of out-of-place.  w8liftinglady   Jun-15-11 03:05 PM   #443 
  - Gay bashers say things like this, Gay activity isn't OK, because they will teach it  ej510   Jun-15-11 03:16 PM   #453 
  - And more of us who support you are moving here every day.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 03:17 PM   #454 
  - I agree.  Hosnon   Jun-16-11 12:45 AM   #953 
  - I'm bi as well  TrogL   Jun-16-11 10:28 AM   #1070 
  - As Marv Albert would say --- YES!!  Major Hogwash   Jun-15-11 03:13 PM   #449 
  - The fact that there is a need for this thread is what is so very depressing.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 03:15 PM   #451 
  - I find it hard to believe too  JanMichael   Jun-15-11 03:34 PM   #468 
  - Getting the whitewash out for the fence again....  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 03:18 PM   #455 
  - Well done.  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-15-11 04:19 PM   #522 
  - agreed. nt  xchrom   Jun-15-11 04:31 PM   #543 
  - GAY RIGHTS ARE CIVIL RIGHTS.  Iggo   Jun-15-11 03:33 PM   #467 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-15-11 03:49 PM   #479 
  - As a straight married couple..We Support Same Sex Marriage  Tikki   Jun-15-11 03:50 PM   #482 
  - I have a problem with one-issue voters of all stripes  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 03:50 PM   #483 
  - Well, perhaps if people didn't defend honoring a homophobe  Prism   Jun-15-11 04:05 PM   #501 
  - "One-issue voter" is like saying to oppose someone because he favors slavery is being a one-issue vo  closeupready   Jun-15-11 04:07 PM   #504 
  - LGBT rights = BIG BIG issue... Warren speaking at inauguration = relatively minor in comparison  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 06:57 PM   #681 
     - Warren speaking at inauguration =  Vanje   Jun-15-11 08:20 PM   #784 
  - No. Most LGBT DU'ers are not one issue voters.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 04:16 PM   #516 
     - It is very much insulting to call them that, though  Prism   Jun-15-11 04:21 PM   #525 
        - Nor can you.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-15-11 04:31 PM   #541 
           - Then don't call their concerns single-issue  Prism   Jun-15-11 04:46 PM   #555 
  - Have you been active in countering the obsession with Anthony Weiner to the exclusion of  closeupready   Jun-15-11 04:06 PM   #503 
  - I have maybe made two or three posts about Weiner in 3 weeks...  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 06:55 PM   #677 
  - This is what privilege sounds like. n/t  QC   Jun-15-11 04:24 PM   #530 
  - The problem with your "one issue" stance is that this should not be  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 04:28 PM   #538 
  - It's way down the list because you don't fucking care.  Evoman   Jun-15-11 04:30 PM   #540 
  - Rick Warren speaking had nothing to do with your rights.  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 07:01 PM   #684 
     - No, it wasn't crazy.  Evoman   Jun-15-11 07:29 PM   #720 
     - No, it was just an insult.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:34 PM   #799 
     - Yes, yes, we get it...  WillParkinson   Jun-19-11 06:00 AM   #1626 
     - For the outrage about Rick Warren  ohheckyeah   Jun-20-11 01:57 AM   #1685 
  - part of the reason the threads took over were the people defending warren  fishwax   Jun-15-11 04:40 PM   #552 
  - Well... for a month, that issue dominated DU above all else...  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 06:56 PM   #680 
     - that happens on DU all the time  fishwax   Jun-15-11 08:02 PM   #767 
  - One-issue voters? I'm guessing you were one of those posters flinging around "pony"  WhollyHeretic   Jun-15-11 05:05 PM   #572 
  - +1. It's too bad "pony" became a forbidden term.  gkhouston   Jun-16-11 10:35 PM   #1405 
  - economy ...  shireen   Jun-16-11 01:09 AM   #955 
  - Enough with the "single-issue voter" crap. It's tin-eared at best.  Ignis   Jun-16-11 01:33 AM   #958 
  - Therein lies the problem. Dismissing LGBT activists, civil rights actvists  tekisui   Jun-16-11 07:28 AM   #1002 
  - Only straight white bourgeois males are qualified to say which issues truly matter.  QC   Jun-16-11 07:41 AM   #1004 
  - Excuse me.....  ohheckyeah   Jun-20-11 01:53 AM   #1683 
  - Calling LGBT activists one issue voters is offensive and demeans their work  tekisui   Jun-20-11 12:16 PM   #1697 
  - I'm not sure what this is in ref. to, but I support full equality incl. marriage for GLBT citizens.  Warren DeMontague   Jun-15-11 04:16 PM   #515 
  - I'm not gay, but I'm tired of DUers treating Gay issues as anything other than vital.  Evoman   Jun-15-11 04:16 PM   #517 
  - On a second thought, you know what?  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 04:22 PM   #526 
  - People did then, and people do now.  Evoman   Jun-15-11 04:32 PM   #546 
  - It's pretty sad, isn't it?  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 04:36 PM   #549 
     - I'm Canadian. And here people do look...but it doesn't matter, because it's legal.  Evoman   Jun-15-11 05:10 PM   #578 
        - Took a long time here, too,  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 05:24 PM   #588 
  - yes -- if the lgbtiq community were a single ethnic minority -- NO ONE would  xchrom   Jun-15-11 04:39 PM   #551 
     - Teh list!  Call Me Wesley   Jun-15-11 04:52 PM   #561 
        - ...  xchrom   Jun-15-11 04:56 PM   #565 
  - I'm glad LGBT are impatient about their rights.  FLPanhandle   Jun-15-11 04:27 PM   #533 
  - It's about time  Stevenmarc   Jun-15-11 04:29 PM   #539 
  - Thank you for saying this.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 04:49 PM   #557 
  - Honey, if the shoe fits.  Maven   Jun-15-11 05:03 PM   #570 
     - This is what I'm talking about.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 05:09 PM   #577 
        - What I know is that you would sooner stop breathing before failing to defend Obama  Maven   Jun-15-11 05:21 PM   #584 
           - Further mischaracterization.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 05:27 PM   #591 
              - Please point out one post in which you criticize (or even critique!) Obama on a gay rights issue.  Maven   Jun-15-11 05:28 PM   #593 
                 - I respond in threads to refute extreme accusations.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 05:36 PM   #604 
                    - The benchmark is  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:46 PM   #620 
                    - I second Pab Sungenis.  Maven   Jun-15-11 06:19 PM   #650 
                    - So I hope by your standard Bill Clinton was a COMPLETE failure.  great white snark   Jun-15-11 06:28 PM   #657 
                    - For gays? Yes. Clinton was a failure.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:13 PM   #700 
                       - Yep, pretty much.  Maven   Jun-15-11 07:20 PM   #706 
                    - And you just had to get a shitty jab in there about "devotees", didn't you?  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 06:33 PM   #660 
                       - Sorry, there's no other word for it.  Maven   Jun-15-11 07:03 PM   #687 
                       - The tire treads on the backs of our LGBT community are far deeper than  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 07:26 PM   #717 
                          - And when did I question any of that?  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 07:52 PM   #751 
                             - Look at the post of yours that I responded to...  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 08:27 PM   #793 
                                - Good on you!  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 08:52 PM   #816 
                                   - You detect tone through printed word? Wow!  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 09:00 PM   #818 
                                      - I didn't say you did, nor was I questioning your member status.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 09:15 PM   #830 
                                         - The fight is here on DU, as long as we all profess to be Democrats.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 09:32 PM   #846 
                                            - I actually think this thread had pretty much spun out when you joined.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 10:04 PM   #867 
                                               - I don't think it had spun out. Really I don't.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 10:14 PM   #876 
                                               - So, because I didn't put up a post  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 11:13 PM   #914 
                                               - I know your behavior on this thread is "worrisome"...  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 11:45 PM   #931 
                                               - Sorry you feel that way. Don't take the loss of your cyber-friends out on me. n/t  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 02:52 AM   #966 
                                               - Again, I suggest that you take a long, hard look in the mirror.  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-16-11 07:48 AM   #1007 
                                               - I think I'll pass on that advice, thank you.  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 06:07 PM   #1323 
                    - Puh-lease. You are the very problem.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 07:25 PM   #714 
                    - Unfortunately that claim can't be bolstered with any proof  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 07:47 PM   #744 
                       - Put me on ignore or do whatever you need to. I couldn't care less.  tekisui   Jun-15-11 10:39 PM   #897 
                       - 's ok  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 11:02 PM   #911 
                       - You are a vile, homophobic piece of shit. And that's all I'm going to say in this thread  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-16-11 08:53 PM   #1360 
                          - Dupe  CakeGrrl   Jun-17-11 12:26 PM   #1504 
                          - A very misinformed, angry, bitter and inaccurate pronouncement.  CakeGrrl   Jun-17-11 12:26 PM   #1505 
                    - OK...  BillStein   Jun-16-11 11:05 AM   #1089 
  - if this was about racial = rights - you would sing a very different song.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 04:51 PM   #560 
  - now now  dsc   Jun-15-11 05:25 PM   #589 
  - So, fill us in on your thoughts on gay rights. How do you see it?  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 04:55 PM   #564 
  - What I believe in is Equal Rights  Stevenmarc   Jun-15-11 05:31 PM   #596 
     - And....?  Safetykitten   Jun-15-11 05:37 PM   #606 
     - What part  Stevenmarc   Jun-15-11 05:41 PM   #611 
     - are you part of the lgbtiq community?  xchrom   Jun-15-11 05:38 PM   #608 
        - Equal Rights is all encompassing  Stevenmarc   Jun-15-11 06:01 PM   #635 
           - can you be denied employment because you are lgbtiq or kicked out of your apartment?  xchrom   Jun-15-11 06:07 PM   #639 
              - Are you  Stevenmarc   Jun-15-11 06:25 PM   #654 
                 - age has no bearing on this topic -- & i'd be surpised if i wasn't older than you.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 06:29 PM   #658 
  - Who are you?  Maven   Jun-15-11 04:57 PM   #566 
  - I didn't know I had to submit my CV to you to post, my bad.  Stevenmarc   Jun-15-11 05:33 PM   #599 
  - you wanna chime in our side -- it comes w/ bona fides. nt  xchrom   Jun-15-11 05:40 PM   #610 
  - I'm thinking its the Lesbian blogger from Damascus...  DURHAM D   Jun-15-11 06:55 PM   #676 
  - Thank you.  Gregorian   Jun-15-11 06:41 PM   #667 
  - Gutsy move, Skinner. Hope it works. After my own stormy posting drama,  philly_bob   Jun-15-11 04:31 PM   #542 
  - 'absolutists' -- right up there with 'racists'.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 05:01 PM   #568 
  - The poster said I wanted to deny survivor rights for gays...  philly_bob   Jun-15-11 08:50 PM   #814 
  - Bob, there's one thing you overlook.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:45 PM   #618 
     - And why should we have to friggin' compromise in the first place?  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 06:35 PM   #664 
        - Good point  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:01 PM   #685 
        - And that's why we call it 'absolutist.'  philly_bob   Jun-15-11 08:52 PM   #815 
           - You're clearly using it as a pejorative.  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-18-11 04:09 AM   #1590 
  - Maybe I was Borne this way?  do me baby   Jun-15-11 05:06 PM   #574 
  - Well, then , Bless your heart, Baby!  Vanje   Jun-15-11 09:00 PM   #819 
  - No mod deletions? Quick everyone, post all of your porn pictures!  ZombieHorde   Jun-15-11 05:11 PM   #579 
  - ...  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 05:27 PM   #592 
  - OMG  Aerows   Jun-18-11 06:56 AM   #1601 
  - You are not helping  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 05:35 PM   #601 
  - Elderly gay lost his home because the his partner died  Omaha Steve   Jun-15-11 05:15 PM   #583 
  - That is horrible. I hope he's okay.  WhollyHeretic   Jun-15-11 05:44 PM   #613 
  - That's what it is all about man, right there. That is why delay is  Bluenorthwest   Jun-15-11 07:40 PM   #735 
  - There's never a wrong time to demand equality  suffragette   Jun-15-11 05:23 PM   #586 
  - Besides the rampant and ugly homophobia on display here and on other  RandomKoolzip   Jun-15-11 05:41 PM   #612 
  - +1  xchrom   Jun-15-11 05:46 PM   #621 
  - +1  Maven   Jun-15-11 05:52 PM   #626 
  - When we throw love "under the bus" for political expediency, we throw the human race under the bus.  McCamy Taylor   Jun-15-11 05:45 PM   #617 
  - That's about  Zorra   Jun-16-11 09:44 PM   #1377 
  - What is this thread about? Simply allowing namecalling...  Doctor Hurt   Jun-15-11 05:48 PM   #624 
  - Why not take a moment and read...?  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 06:01 PM   #634 
  - actually, it may not fail.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 06:04 PM   #637 
  - Its early  Vanje   Jun-15-11 06:12 PM   #642 
  - I unrecced this for the same reason I unrecced "Mending Fences."  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:32 PM   #725 
     - What should the admins do?  Doctor Hurt   Jun-15-11 08:09 PM   #774 
     - What should they do?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:18 PM   #783 
        - sounds reasonable  Doctor Hurt   Jun-15-11 10:33 PM   #892 
     - I can't disagree - until certain strong Obama supporters are banned  xchrom   Jun-15-11 09:20 PM   #836 
        - Let the witchhunt begin!  Bobbie Jo   Jun-16-11 06:36 AM   #986 
        - I'd prefer certain what Pab wrote right above here....  uppityperson   Jun-17-11 09:53 AM   #1482 
  - For me, it's about learning and widening my perspective.  LanternWaste   Jun-15-11 07:44 PM   #741 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Jun-15-11 05:59 PM   #631 
  - In response to comments #464 and #495  Tx4obama   Jun-15-11 06:06 PM   #638 
  - not homophobic  xchrom   Jun-15-11 06:26 PM   #656 
  - The big problem is the relentless gay baiting - and the eight to ten worst offenders  ruggerson   Jun-15-11 06:14 PM   #645 
  - thanks for sharing this  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 06:25 PM   #653 
  - Thanks tisha  ruggerson   Jun-15-11 08:31 PM   #797 
  - I think I know who you're speaking about  Stinky The Clown   Jun-15-11 06:35 PM   #663 
  - Heaven forbid there are people on DEMOCRATIC underground who defend a DEMOCRATIC President...  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 07:05 PM   #692 
     - Heaven forbid there are people on DEMOCRATIC underground who  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-15-11 07:09 PM   #695 
  - Please read post #673  great white snark   Jun-15-11 06:51 PM   #673 
  - This exactly. It's the gay-baiting.  Prism   Jun-15-11 07:23 PM   #710 
  - A recent example  ruggerson   Jun-15-11 08:17 PM   #781 
  - As a straight person, I can't see how some here...  demmiblue   Jun-15-11 08:21 PM   #787 
     - +1  ruggerson   Jun-15-11 08:25 PM   #790 
     - Agreed...  Dappleganger   Jun-15-11 11:18 PM   #918 
     - +1. It takes a great effort to somehow "miss" it.  Ignis   Jun-16-11 01:33 PM   #1182 
  - This is indeed part of the problem  TrogL   Jun-16-11 02:39 AM   #964 
  - You seem to recognize the pattern  Vanje   Jun-16-11 01:08 PM   #1163 
     - Rules. Learn them.  boppers   Jun-16-11 06:56 PM   #1336 
  - Great post. n/t  QC   Jun-16-11 08:18 AM   #1017 
  - We've seen the same things, Ruggerson  Mimosa   Jun-17-11 02:40 AM   #1452 
  - perfect  Vattel   Jun-20-11 12:12 AM   #1655 
  - This will be my last post for this evening. What it boils down to is this.  William769   Jun-15-11 06:17 PM   #648 
  - I know I've angered a lot of people here in the past.  Unvanguard   Jun-15-11 06:18 PM   #649 
  - excellent analysis  Doctor Hurt   Jun-15-11 06:42 PM   #668 
  - Your post reminded me of a sad incident here  Prism   Jun-15-11 06:46 PM   #670 
  - Totally agree. That was a big turning point for me, too.  Zenlitened   Jun-15-11 08:01 PM   #765 
  - Best post in this whole long thread. n/t  stevenleser   Jun-17-11 06:49 PM   #1549 
  - My take on this, for what it's worth  MadHound   Jun-15-11 06:30 PM   #659 
  - I'm nervous, but I'm going to say my piece on here  apples and oranges   Jun-15-11 06:44 PM   #669 
  - Good post n/t  scheming daemons   Jun-15-11 07:04 PM   #689 
  - Good post and I agree sometimes homophobe is thrown around too loosely here  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 07:31 PM   #724 
  - DU is not real life. For one, if you fuck up and let people know what you think or feel  Evoman   Jun-15-11 07:33 PM   #729 
  - Let me make a suggestion, directed generally.  Unvanguard   Jun-15-11 07:36 PM   #731 
  - That's good advice, but...  TCJ70   Jun-16-11 01:49 PM   #1208 
  - respectfully, apples and oranges, I don't think that description is accurate/complete  fishwax   Jun-15-11 07:48 PM   #748 
  - Glad you added your thoughts.  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 08:03 PM   #769 
  - What do you think of Fishwax's response?  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 12:31 PM   #1137 
     - I don't have a problem with that response.  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 02:10 PM   #1232 
        - Oh poor you  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 08:18 PM   #1352 
  - "Tag team"  Puglover   Jun-15-11 09:05 PM   #824 
  - well said and thanks for posting that  Whisp   Jun-16-11 01:06 AM   #954 
  - What do you think of Fishwax's response?  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 12:32 PM   #1139 
     - who is Fishwax and what did he say?  Whisp   Jun-16-11 12:36 PM   #1142 
        - 3 responses above yours- I assumed you had read it.  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 12:58 PM   #1151 
           - I can relate to apples and oranges post.  Whisp   Jun-16-11 01:04 PM   #1160 
              - The nervousness is on both sides  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 01:14 PM   #1165 
                 - I don't really see much of that baiting here you describe  Whisp   Jun-16-11 01:34 PM   #1186 
                    - It does happen and it happens often and by the same people over and over  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 01:47 PM   #1204 
                       - he personally does not believe in it, because of his religion.  Whisp   Jun-16-11 01:51 PM   #1211 
                          - If my religious views were that blacks and whites should not mix  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 02:13 PM   #1235 
                             - you forget this is America, where people think Jesus rode on dinosaurs.  Whisp   Jun-16-11 02:25 PM   #1238 
                                - Some people will excuse any behavior.  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 08:01 PM   #1348 
  - Good post, and.....  Bobbie Jo   Jun-16-11 02:00 PM   #1221 
  - What exactly happened?  kentuck   Jun-15-11 07:11 PM   #697 
  - Tracey Morgan opened his big mouth  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:26 PM   #716 
  - People here defended Tracy Morgan?  Unvanguard   Jun-15-11 07:29 PM   #719 
  - Hyperbole on my part.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:30 PM   #723 
  - What did you want done?  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 07:41 PM   #737 
     - It wasn't just Morgan threads.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:57 PM   #757 
     - Oh, and I almost forgot.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:58 PM   #759 
        - I don't understand why it's unacceptable to believe Morgan made bad jokes.  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 08:01 PM   #764 
           - It's NOT ABOUT MORGAN.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:04 PM   #770 
              - I don't dispute that this has been a long term problem.  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 09:03 PM   #823 
  - Proof in point  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 07:33 PM   #728 
     - I'm already ignoring that one  Cronus Protagonist   Jun-15-11 08:16 PM   #780 
  - What's "the list"?  Doctor Hurt   Jun-15-11 07:32 PM   #727 
     - "teh LIST" is that "What the hell has Obama done for LGBT lately?"  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:38 PM   #733 
        - Didn't "the list" come from the Human Rights Campaign?  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 07:43 PM   #740 
           - I think the original version came from Andrew Tobias.  Unvanguard   Jun-15-11 07:48 PM   #746 
           - And the HRC also suppored Al D'Amato.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 07:49 PM   #749 
              - Did Al D'Amato deserve their support on gay issues?  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 07:57 PM   #756 
                 - I'm saying I don't trust them.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:02 PM   #766 
  - Do you enjoy swiss cheese?  Ignis   Jun-16-11 01:36 PM   #1190 
  - Excellent idea  malaise   Jun-15-11 07:20 PM   #708 
  - Is there anything I can do to help?  Dappleganger   Jun-15-11 07:24 PM   #711 
  - What turned me off from posting on DU  JackBeck   Jun-15-11 07:36 PM   #732 
  - With friends like you,  Vanje   Jun-15-11 08:47 PM   #812 
  - I followed your posts before you were banned  JackBeck   Jun-15-11 11:40 PM   #927 
  - Your decision to no longer post here is DU's loss. Truly  Number23   Jun-15-11 10:16 PM   #878 
  - I knew you would stop by !!!  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 01:00 PM   #1154 
  - Civil rights for everyone are a fundamental Democratic principle  WhollyHeretic   Jun-15-11 07:59 PM   #761 
  - If you are hetero and you claim "I'm 100% in favor of equal rights for LGBT Americans  RandomKoolzip   Jun-15-11 08:20 PM   #785 
  - how about a non-hetero doing the same thing? eom  yawnmaster   Jun-15-11 08:25 PM   #792 
  - I think that it's sad that a progressive community even has to have this conversation.  flvegan   Jun-15-11 08:21 PM   #788 
  - In support of out Intersex brethren, it's LGBTI these days  Cronus Protagonist   Jun-15-11 08:23 PM   #789 
  - I've just taken to using LGBT*.*  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:32 PM   #798 
  - lol that may catch on  Cronus Protagonist   Jun-15-11 08:36 PM   #800 
     - Yes, but if you try too hard to be a star  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:39 PM   #805 
        - That's why I always preferred "Queer"  Cronus Protagonist   Jun-15-11 09:55 PM   #860 
  - I like the Q.  boppers   Jun-16-11 07:01 PM   #1338 
  - Any of you who are looking for someone to blame for this thread  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:31 PM   #796 
  - Well, this is a really good way to get rid of all of the WEINER threads.  madinmaryland   Jun-15-11 08:39 PM   #804 
  - ROFL!!!!!!!!!  Puglover   Jun-15-11 09:09 PM   #826 
  - lol  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 09:15 PM   #829 
     - I could think of a BRAZILIAN other reasons!  madinmaryland   Jun-15-11 09:19 PM   #834 
  - Okay, I'm done for the night.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-15-11 08:42 PM   #806 
  - Good job, Pab! You did this thread proud today. nt  justiceischeap   Jun-15-11 08:43 PM   #808 
  - I have issues with personalities here, not sexual orientation....  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 08:43 PM   #807 
  - Put them on "ignore"?  Vanje   Jun-15-11 09:02 PM   #822 
  - Well then we wouldn't need this thread.  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 09:49 PM   #859 
  - So lets see if I'm getting you here.  Puglover   Jun-15-11 09:29 PM   #842 
  - Again, it depends on where you sit...  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 10:04 PM   #869 
     - But apparently only one side of it troubles you.  Puglover   Jun-15-11 10:17 PM   #879 
        - I only see one side being hypocritical. Maybe they're just louder.  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 10:27 PM   #887 
           - Obama is a politician.  Puglover   Jun-15-11 11:22 PM   #919 
              - Response  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 11:35 PM   #923 
  - Oh really? Our folk went through a serious purge here - not yours.  xchrom   Jun-15-11 09:35 PM   #849 
  - Case in point.  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 09:46 PM   #856 
  - Interesting. When one LGBT is purged, ALL are "victimized." Hey, I'm an ass.  mistertrickster   Jun-15-11 10:06 PM   #871 
  - I remember your antics during the primaries, when you were one of the most snide and belligerent  QC   Jun-15-11 09:35 PM   #850 
  - I've never claimed to be a wounded innocent....and don't take disgragreeing with me...  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 09:43 PM   #854 
     - No, you went well beyond disagreement.  QC   Jun-15-11 09:48 PM   #858 
        - I was and you're welcomed to think I was 'mean' and sadistic......  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 09:56 PM   #863 
        - You were fucking vile, with a capital V  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-16-11 09:02 PM   #1363 
           - I seriously think some of you need to grow up and realize that there is nothing vile about someone  Joe the Revelator   Jun-16-11 09:52 PM   #1384 
        - Oh wow that's wolsh? If there was ever a competition for nastiest DUer, wolsh def would have my vote  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-16-11 09:00 PM   #1361 
           - That lie was the more vile then anything I ever said.  Joe the Revelator   Jun-16-11 09:53 PM   #1385 
              - Not a lie at all. In fact I remember it quite clearly  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-16-11 10:05 PM   #1391 
                 - We're really going to rehash this?  Joe the Revelator   Jun-16-11 10:20 PM   #1396 
                 - I know who Miss Mia at CU is and it's not and never was Wolsh. n/t  tammywammy   Jun-17-11 01:11 PM   #1517 
                    - Memory....I can smile at the old days.....  Joe the Revelator   Jun-17-11 11:42 PM   #1583 
  - So when a minority speaks up about their civil rights they are "playing the victim"?  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 12:35 PM   #1140 
  - Oh that marrah G.....completely missing the point.....  Joe the Revelator   Jun-16-11 09:55 PM   #1386 
     - I just realized who you were  Marrah_G   Jun-17-11 07:24 AM   #1464 
        - Keep up the good work.  Joe the Revelator   Jun-17-11 08:31 AM   #1472 
  - "they want rules to apply to others but not to them"  MNBrewer   Jun-17-11 09:49 AM   #1481 
  - Skinner, I have to say this to you  The Traveler   Jun-15-11 08:45 PM   #809 
  - I'm a twice divorced straight woman, and I divorced one of them for being a homophobe.  Zen Democrat   Jun-15-11 08:49 PM   #813 
  - My views on this subject  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 08:56 PM   #817 
  - I'm sorry to hear about your opinion of Bluebear  tishaLA   Jun-15-11 10:21 PM   #882 
  - My problem is more with partisans  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 10:43 PM   #899 
  - We give Obama credit  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 08:02 AM   #1013 
  - I'm backing up Renew Deal on this  CakeGrrl   Jun-15-11 11:57 PM   #934 
  - that's a fair criticism  tishaLA   Jun-16-11 12:04 AM   #939 
  - I suggest you take a long hard look at yourself  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 11:07 AM   #1092 
     - Really?  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 12:21 PM   #1131 
        - There is no PUMA factor  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 01:33 PM   #1183 
        - And yet she will go into another forum and cry she is being picked on.  William769   Jun-16-11 04:14 PM   #1277 
        - Oh hi, it's you!  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 05:49 PM   #1315 
           - Who's back did I bite?  William769   Jun-16-11 06:04 PM   #1320 
        - Says the person who says "people cringe when you enter a thread"  CakeGrrl   Jun-16-11 05:58 PM   #1319 
        - Your actions speak louder then words  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 08:04 PM   #1350 
        - Word  ruggerson   Jun-18-11 01:05 PM   #1607 
        - PUMA my ass.  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 04:43 PM   #1289 
        - PUMA! POUTRAGE! PONY! You guys are complete and utter morons.  Very_Boring_Name   Jun-18-11 04:43 AM   #1594 
  - Thank you very much.  Bluebear   Jun-16-11 05:50 AM   #980 
  - Dude, you're getting a Damn Skippy  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 02:05 AM   #962 
  - Greetings, thank you for allowing me to respond.  Bluebear   Jun-16-11 05:33 AM   #978 
  - I love you for being all those things :)  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 11:09 AM   #1093 
  - Maybe I was a bit harsh  Renew Deal   Jun-16-11 02:04 PM   #1228 
     - So we both inched a step forward here.  Bluebear   Jun-17-11 12:55 AM   #1438 
     - Note: the DADT promise has yet to be fulfilled  MNBrewer   Jun-17-11 10:02 AM   #1485 
  - I usually agree with Bluebear 100%. I agree with his criticisms of Obama  MNBrewer   Jun-17-11 09:57 AM   #1484 
  - is it time for the "Viper Pit" solution? grow up and have resident "Kill File" sub-forum?  NuttyFluffers   Jun-15-11 09:01 PM   #821 
  - I don't think this is what DU has ever been about  Renew Deal   Jun-15-11 09:12 PM   #828 
  - certain ideas sound beautiful as ideals. and then there's the reality of humanity.  NuttyFluffers   Jun-15-11 09:55 PM   #861 
  - I've seen this idea work elsewhere....  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 10:00 PM   #864 
  - I support equality for all  marlakay   Jun-15-11 09:22 PM   #840 
  - LGBT issues are everyone's issues  Generic Brad   Jun-15-11 09:42 PM   #853 
  - Hi fellow MN person  MNBrewer   Jun-17-11 10:03 AM   #1486 
  - I have no problem with homosexuals..  Corruption Winz   Jun-15-11 10:06 PM   #870 
  - There are plenty of overtly-flamboyant heterosexuals  Hippo_Tron   Jun-16-11 12:12 AM   #941 
  - I understand... I should probably rephrase..  Corruption Winz   Jun-16-11 02:05 AM   #961 
     - Better put me on Ignore...  Vanje   Jun-16-11 01:24 PM   #1173 
     - Do you mean "overly"= flamboyantly, or "overtly"=openly?  uppityperson   Jun-16-11 04:24 PM   #1282 
  - You should make it your goal to get to know more flamboyant people.  Dappleganger   Jun-16-11 09:39 PM   #1376 
  - It's pretty badass Skinner was willing to try this  whatchamacallit   Jun-15-11 10:07 PM   #872 
  - agree!! marry anyone..  juxtaposed   Jun-15-11 10:21 PM   #883 
  - Simple: homophobes, which is ANYONE against marriage equality  The Green Manalishi   Jun-15-11 10:08 PM   #873 
  - I find this post distasteful in the extreme. n/t  Unvanguard   Jun-15-11 10:10 PM   #875 
  - Hate much?  Rowdyboy   Jun-15-11 11:41 PM   #930 
  - Did you have a defense of ANYONE against marriage equality?  flvegan   Jun-16-11 12:39 AM   #950 
  - Wow.  WilliamPitt   Jun-16-11 12:58 PM   #1150 
  - jeez.  Codeine   Jun-16-11 10:59 PM   #1415 
  - And this piece of hateful tripe is helpful...how? Good grief.  uppityperson   Jun-17-11 09:57 AM   #1483 
  - Hi! I'm new here... What you all talking about!! My names Mike:-)  juxtaposed   Jun-15-11 10:17 PM   #880 
  - How can anyone call themselves a progressive  Loki   Jun-15-11 10:22 PM   #884 
  - They can't and those bigots should just go fuck themselves.  flvegan   Jun-15-11 10:37 PM   #896 
  - I don't understand it at all  mvd   Jun-15-11 11:16 PM   #916 
  - Whats going on?  Ramulux   Jun-15-11 10:22 PM   #885 
  - All I know is my fiance'  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 10:35 PM   #895 
  - We all do, brother.  flvegan   Jun-15-11 11:07 PM   #913 
     - Yup  Wetzelbill   Jun-15-11 11:16 PM   #915 
        - I know, me too.  flvegan   Jun-15-11 11:31 PM   #922 
  - I am a gay DUer but I am not active in the LGBT forums  mikelgb   Jun-15-11 10:49 PM   #902 
  - Extending civil rights to everyone is a little more important to me  bullwinkle428   Jun-15-11 10:54 PM   #905 
  - But you wouldn't be mad if someone who cared about the poor voted for a pro-social program  Joe the Revelator   Jun-15-11 11:17 PM   #917 
     - You were wondering why you were getting so much invective upthread.  Occulus   Jun-16-11 10:59 AM   #1083 
     - I don't recall wondering that....  Joe the Revelator   Jun-16-11 11:12 AM   #1095 
     - That's not even a very good strawman argument.  bullwinkle428   Jun-16-11 01:25 PM   #1174 
  - Has anyone noticed how often  cheneyschernobyl   Jun-15-11 11:38 PM   #924 
  - I often edit right after posting because I forget to use the "Preview" function  Hippo_Tron   Jun-15-11 11:40 PM   #928 
  - I spelled "too" as "to" a couple of times. And then I had doubts about  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-16-11 01:13 AM   #956 
  - My favorite is when I edit a typo or something and then get accused of editing...  JVS   Jun-16-11 04:10 AM   #971 
  - Typos, baby. Typos! nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 04:43 AM   #975 
  - Part of the problem is that DU doesn't do nuance well with regard to Obama  Hippo_Tron   Jun-15-11 11:59 PM   #936 
  - wow, I've been a bit disillusioned  deacon_sephiroth   Jun-16-11 12:13 AM   #942 
  - We must respectfully agree to disagree in order to progress.  urbuddha   Jun-16-11 01:44 AM   #959 
     - There is not, there CANNOT be, respectful disagreement when speaking of  Occulus   Jun-16-11 11:05 AM   #1091 
     - there is no need to be respectful of bigotry n/t  fishwax   Jun-16-11 11:25 AM   #1105 
     - Would you extend that same hand of respect to a racist?  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 01:53 PM   #1215 
  - kick for later...  From The Ashes   Jun-16-11 02:30 AM   #963 
  - Every one said I was wrong.....  Tripod   Jun-16-11 03:50 AM   #970 
  - Comtec, where are you?????  Tripod   Jun-16-11 03:36 AM   # 
  - oops, never mind.  Tripod   Jun-17-11 03:16 AM   #1454 
  - Where do I sign up...LOL  Tripod   Jun-16-11 03:36 AM   #969 
  - Ten questions for everyone, while we're all gathered here.  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 04:42 AM   #974 
  - 10 answers and ten more questions  Behind the Aegis   Jun-16-11 05:31 AM   #977 
  - Question #1 was a hoot  Bluebear   Jun-16-11 05:40 AM   #979 
  - Turnabout is fairplay  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 06:19 AM   #982 
     - Corrections and Clarifications  Behind the Aegis   Jun-17-11 02:27 AM   #1451 
        - I don't mind replying at all.  MrScorpio   Jun-17-11 01:07 PM   #1515 
  - Here are some answers:  Unvanguard   Jun-16-11 06:41 AM   #987 
  - Great answers. Thanks very much nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 06:49 AM   #990 
  - I'm just gonna answer #9 for now  justiceischeap   Jun-16-11 07:07 AM   #994 
  - Thanks. I hope that you'll answer the others  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 07:09 AM   #995 
  - You want answers?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 07:44 AM   #1005 
  - Thanks for your answers. I really appreciate them. nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 07:53 AM   #1009 
  - Okay.  Hosnon   Jun-16-11 08:42 AM   #1024 
  - Thanks very much for your answers nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 03:36 PM   #1259 
  - Dude, I didn't even read past #1, what kind of stupid question is that  snooper2   Jun-16-11 09:11 AM   #1034 
  - It's either yes or no  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 09:19 AM   #1035 
  - It has been said a few times. "I dont understand how anyone in favor of gay rights can be in favor  stevenleser   Jun-16-11 09:29 AM   #1041 
  - It really isn't a stupid question 'cause there are people that have said that  justiceischeap   Jun-16-11 09:33 AM   #1043 
  - answers  TrogL   Jun-16-11 10:43 AM   #1076 
  - Thank you for your answers nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 03:33 PM   #1254 
  - OK..  BillStein   Jun-16-11 11:26 AM   #1107 
  - I appreciate your answers very much, thank you nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 03:34 PM   #1255 
  - I'll play  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 12:49 PM   #1144 
  - Thank you very much for your answers nt  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 03:35 PM   #1256 
  - Answers  Lyric   Jun-16-11 05:50 PM   #1316 
  - Thanks for your answers, Very Much,  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 07:10 PM   #1342 
  - I won't answer  Creideiki   Jun-16-11 07:20 PM   #1344 
  - Thanks for taking the time to reply anyway nt  MrScorpio   Jun-17-11 11:46 AM   #1498 
  - Hell, its late and I'm awake... let's try this...  Fearless   Jun-19-11 01:24 AM   #1622 
     - Thanks for all of your answers. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer them nt  MrScorpio   Jun-19-11 10:29 PM   #1638 
  - Regardless of what happens here on DU, the Democratic Party will pay dearly in the next election  BlueIris   Jun-16-11 04:57 AM   #976 
  - I don't think so. I think more LGBTIQ voters are like Ruggerson and less like those who  stevenleser   Jun-16-11 09:24 AM   #1039 
  - My granpa used to say, "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face".  Zorra   Jun-16-11 02:17 PM   #1237 
  - Questions  harun   Jun-16-11 07:41 AM   #1003 
  - Let's take this back a step (and I hope you do respond.)  Unvanguard   Jun-16-11 07:45 AM   #1006 
  - Marriage issues are fundamental in our society  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 07:50 AM   #1008 
  - Really? You don't know why it's important? Besides the fact that everyone deserves equal  WhollyHeretic   Jun-16-11 08:17 AM   #1015 
  - Homerun. Talk about dishonesty.  Hosnon   Jun-16-11 08:36 AM   #1023 
  - That compelling list deserves it own thread.  dmr   Jun-16-11 10:57 AM   #1081 
  - "I think your post deserves it's own battle-cry thread."  Occulus   Jun-16-11 11:12 AM   #1094 
  - Tiny thing, "joint filing of tax returns," huh?  Pab Sungenis   Jun-16-11 11:44 AM   #1117 
  - Same boat.  Bluenorthwest   Jun-16-11 02:01 PM   #1225 
  - Perfection.  Blue-Jay   Jun-16-11 01:11 PM   #1164 
  - ^^^ READ THIS if you don't "get" marriage equality ^^^  Ignis   Jun-16-11 01:40 PM   #1195 
  - Do most straight people get married for health care benefits? I must have missed that memo.  LeftyMom   Jun-16-11 08:22 AM   #1018 
  - Your questions do not deserve an answer.  William769   Jun-16-11 09:04 AM   #1030 
  - Oops I'm sorry. Wrong thread  MrScorpio   Jun-16-11 09:21 AM   #1037 
  - "marriage" is a Sacrament in the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches  TrogL   Jun-16-11 10:35 AM   #1072 
  - dupe - ignore  TrogL   Jun-16-11 10:35 AM   #1073 
  - marriage is a legal conract that gaurantees certain rights, protections and privileges  Marrah_G   Jun-16-11 11:30 AM   #1109 
  - why do you assume dishonesty?  fishwax   Jun-16-11 12:24 PM   #1133 
  - "Separate but equal" never is.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-16-11 12:59 PM   #1152 
  - Are you married?  Maven   Jun-16-11 04:22 PM   #1280 
  - That is like asking if black people feel the need to share a water fountain with everyone else rathe  uppityperson   Jun-16-11 04:27 PM   #1284 
  - I would just like to thank those who took the time to explain to me their reasoning  harun   Jun-16-11 08:51 PM   #1358 
  - economic leftism OUT and social leftism IN. So say TPTB  leftistboy   Jun-16-11 07:59 AM   #1011 
  - I refuse to choose between those two.  Unvanguard   Jun-16-11 08:12 AM   #1014 
     - I agree  economistman   Jun-16-11 10:32 AM   #1071 
     - Agreed  LeftishBrit   Jun-16-11 12:32 PM   #1138 
  - The LGBT "issue" is just a diversion.  dotymed   Jun-16-11 08:52 AM   #1026 
  - "The LGBT "issue" is just a diversion. IMO, it takes an idiot to discriminate"  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-16-11 09:09 AM   #1033 
     - Please enlighten me.  dotymed   Jun-16-11 09:48 AM   #1049 
        - Unfortunately the laws don't see people regardless of their sexuality.  William769   Jun-16-11 09:50 AM   #1050 
           - I wouldn't bother.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-16-11 10:00 AM   #1055 
           - As to a moron not on tv. Thanks for the clarity.  William769   Jun-16-11 10:05 AM   #1