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Tue Jun-14-11 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 81. I love the Dan Savage choice test. |
| -Gay Men Kicked Out of Public Pool in Kentucky and Official Cites 'The Bible' as Reason |
meegbear |
Jun-14-11 07:17 AM |
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i don't think you should stop at a protest. |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 07:19 AM |
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Sadly, there are probably no legal grounds for a suit. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 07:29 AM |
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WHat case law states that? |
treestar |
Jun-14-11 07:32 AM |
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In most places, LGBT people are not a protected class. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 07:35 AM |
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What about the federal case law? |
treestar |
Jun-15-11 06:22 PM |
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Umm... separation of church and state? (First Amendment) |
hlthe2b |
Jun-14-11 08:22 AM |
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When has legality EVER stopped a Christian from discriminating against GLBTs? n/t |
Occulus |
Jun-14-11 03:24 PM |
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These are what they call those "special rights" gay people enjoy. The special right to be ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 10:18 AM |
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yes. |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 10:21 AM |
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So these men... |
road2000 |
Jun-14-11 04:59 PM |
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Assuming the pool is STATE owned and not local. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 05:09 PM |
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Yes. |
road2000 |
Jun-14-11 05:14 PM |
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To update the Map: Conn. just passed a gender identity anti-discrimination law. |
NutmegYankee |
Jun-14-11 06:32 PM |
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Thank You. n/t |
lupinella |
Jun-15-11 01:29 AM |
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I didn't know this. Thanks. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-11 11:24 AM |
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Most DUers are not aware of those facts. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-14-11 08:54 AM |
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Apparently gay DUers saying repeatedly that we don't have the same rights |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 08:59 AM |
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I weep every time I read about the hate |
Irishonly |
Jun-14-11 09:20 AM |
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Until the gay community is recognized as a minority class, you won't see many such lawsuits |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 09:43 AM |
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Being born 'gay' is no more a 'choice' than being born male or female, black or white. |
bjobotts |
Jun-14-11 04:25 PM |
#73 |
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I love the Dan Savage choice test. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:08 PM |
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speaking for myself |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 10:19 AM |
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Willful ignorance is an artform in america. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:07 PM |
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+1 |
mike_c |
Jun-14-11 06:28 PM |
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But to discriminate against a citizen in a PUBLIC pool might be illegal, even if |
tblue37 |
Jun-14-11 11:49 AM |
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Nope. Unless there is a state or local civil rights law in effect, |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:23 PM |
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In some places cats have more rights. nt |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 02:27 PM |
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Some say that chickens have more rights in California than we do. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:39 PM |
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And The Same |
RobinA |
Jun-14-11 03:17 PM |
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I've yet to hear of a straight person being fired for being straight |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 03:30 PM |
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Well - cracker barrel is certainly aptly named, isn't it? n/t |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:09 PM |
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How about the fact that they are disabled? |
Zoeisright |
Jun-14-11 12:26 PM |
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They weren't thrown out for being developmentally disabled. n/t |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:21 PM |
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Actually it may not matter. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:11 PM |
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Does city or state law say that gay people can't use the pool? |
Deep13 |
Jun-14-11 06:22 PM |
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This is dangerous ground so I have to walk carefully. How does anyone know someone else is gay? |
rhett o rick |
Jun-14-11 06:58 PM |
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According to a lifeguard, they were kissing, that's how they knew they were gay |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 08:12 PM |
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Thank you for your polite response. Better than the next responder. I am not asking anyone to deny |
rhett o rick |
Jun-14-11 10:50 PM |
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Your post makes no sense at all. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 10:29 PM |
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They can sue due to the fact a government official used the bible as grounds to kick them out |
Chisox08 |
Jun-14-11 08:22 PM |
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No. LGBT people are not a protected class under federal law, |
QC |
Jun-14-11 10:57 PM |
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Religion is a protected class. |
Deep13 |
Jun-16-11 10:39 AM |
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Sadly, no. |
Xithras |
Jun-15-11 11:16 AM |
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This is why I don't understand why marriage is the primary issue in the media. |
dorkulon |
Jun-14-11 08:46 PM |
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Please, oh, Wise One! |
Creideiki |
Jun-15-11 06:55 AM |
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Yes, there are. They had other issues that can be used for an American w/ Disabilities Act claim. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-15-11 02:13 AM |
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get the red out |
Jun-14-11 07:32 AM |
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The unemployment figures need to go up over this incident, |
MineralMan |
Jun-14-11 07:48 AM |
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They can't sue- the place broke no laws. |
Marrah_G |
Jun-14-11 08:24 AM |
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People genuinely find that hard to believe, God love 'em, but it is true. n/t |
QC |
Jun-14-11 08:27 AM |
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Only partially correct - the other side thinks that's exactly the way it should be |
BR_Parkway |
Jun-14-11 09:40 AM |
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i do find it extremely hard to believe |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 10:13 AM |
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I agree. Drain these SOB's dry. n/t |
BulletproofLandshark |
Jun-14-11 03:26 PM |
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hmmm.... |
Roy Rolling |
Jun-14-11 09:01 PM |
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Is there a "Boycott Kentucky" campaign in place yet for the other anti-LGBT stuff? |
Ken Burch |
Jun-15-11 01:14 AM |
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Only if we can boycott your state, Alaska, for creating conditions where Sarah Palin could happen |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 05:27 AM |
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Actually, I'd be ok with people boycotting Alaska over that. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-15-11 04:38 PM |
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WTF? |
hobbit709 |
Jun-14-11 07:19 AM |
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WTFF? |
marmar |
Jun-14-11 07:25 AM |
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Oh for the love of Dog! |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 07:25 AM |
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"What kind of idiot makes a special needs person feel bad? " |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:13 PM |
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or some poor soul that goes to a "bible based church" ... |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 06:29 PM |
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As much as I hate this crap... |
Rebubula |
Jun-14-11 07:30 AM |
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i live in kyand have my whole life. and this |
blueknight |
Jun-14-11 07:45 AM |
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But at least KY makes good jelly |
jberryhill |
Jun-14-11 08:06 AM |
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You're right. |
LanternWaste |
Jun-14-11 08:25 AM |
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and then they kicked out all the shellfish eaters, and then the cheeseburger eaters |
KurtNYC |
Jun-14-11 07:52 AM |
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Oh, well played. |
Ignis |
Jun-14-11 12:53 PM |
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Thou Shalt Not Swim With Those Of Thy Sex? |
jberryhill |
Jun-14-11 07:58 AM |
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Gotta stop "the gay agenda" |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 08:07 AM |
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Touche |
RobinA |
Jun-14-11 03:22 PM |
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Noah, thou shalt build a vessel to fill with chlorinated water... |
JVS |
Jun-14-11 01:39 PM |
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From the Book of Recreations. |
jberryhill |
Jun-14-11 04:33 PM |
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Now you see Shria Law american style. Whatever happened to |
southernyankeebelle |
Jun-14-11 08:15 AM |
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... |
xchrom |
Jun-14-11 08:21 AM |
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recommend. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-14-11 08:56 AM |
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What a shithole of a town, google map it and zoom in.. |
snooper2 |
Jun-14-11 09:04 AM |
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Hazard has always been poor although it has made .. |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 10:19 AM |
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Jun-15-11 01:10 AM |
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sorry if I offended your sensibilities...but there are a lot of shithole towns in this country |
snooper2 |
Jun-15-11 08:50 AM |
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What's the matter, so did you get my comment deleted? |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 10:58 AM |
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Harlem has it's shitty areas too, just like Dallas |
snooper2 |
Jun-15-11 11:33 AM |
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Well, I Hate to Agree With You, but I'm Not Much of a Ford Fan Either |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 04:00 PM |
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Well, I Hate to Agree With You, but I'm Not Much of a Ford Fan Either |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 04:00 PM |
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Does the article elaborate |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-14-11 09:45 AM |
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I was wondering the same thing??? |
onpatrol98 |
Jun-14-11 10:24 AM |
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The article doesn't say much of anything |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-14-11 11:07 AM |
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true... |
onpatrol98 |
Jun-14-11 11:33 AM |
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I know - wtf? Were they blasting Judy Garland CD's on their |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-14-11 04:15 PM |
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Gays and their "Special Rights" |
Bandit |
Jun-14-11 10:23 AM |
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Disgusting and vile garbage that shames my home and faith |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-14-11 11:58 AM |
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A GOVERNMENT center kicked out two DISABLED men? |
Zoeisright |
Jun-14-11 12:25 PM |
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Read it again. |
Occulus |
Jun-14-11 03:29 PM |
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It doesn't matter why the religious nutbag said he did it. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:17 PM |
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Oh, I'll not argue they were disbaled, and were protected because of that. |
Occulus |
Jun-14-11 06:15 PM |
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Yes, Let's allow Religious Nutcases to Determine Law |
fascisthunter |
Jun-14-11 12:27 PM |
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I found another article that sheds a little more light on this story |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 12:39 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Jun-14-11 01:00 PM |
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I HATE that we always seem to have to qualify that |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 01:26 PM |
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Yes, I live in a beach town, so I get to see lots and lots of public dry-humping. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:23 PM |
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"Breeders?" Bigotry's a two-way street. |
DirkGently |
Jun-14-11 04:30 PM |
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Actually |
kurtzapril4 |
Jun-14-11 05:07 PM |
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Even So...... |
Mopar151 |
Jun-14-11 05:21 PM |
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The Bible? Reminds me of the scene from Kingpin where... |
JVS |
Jun-14-11 01:28 PM |
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i would NEVER have left that pool. they would have carried me out. |
spanone |
Jun-14-11 01:29 PM |
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I encountered a lot of people in Texas and elsewhere that |
demigoddess |
Jun-14-11 02:20 PM |
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Yeah, I was told my son was autistic because I wasn't raising him |
Ilsa |
Jun-14-11 11:06 PM |
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How disgusting |
ismnotwasm |
Jun-14-11 02:27 PM |
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and forwarded to FFRF |
GillesDeleuze |
Jun-14-11 02:57 PM |
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1 Chlor. 7:23 |
KamaAina |
Jun-14-11 03:01 PM |
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Believe federal civil rights statute applies - religious discrimination. |
kiranon |
Jun-14-11 03:31 PM |
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That's just not the case. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 05:18 PM |
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nope religious discrimination means |
dsc |
Jun-14-11 06:26 PM |
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Better to plan the lawsuit. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-14-11 03:33 PM |
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Guess they're printing waterproof Bibles now... |
KansDem |
Jun-14-11 03:35 PM |
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God is love! |
Bluebear |
Jun-14-11 03:50 PM |
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That is first class biblical douchebaggery. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-14-11 04:09 PM |
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. |
fishwax |
Jun-14-11 04:22 PM |
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disgusting |
neverforget |
Jun-14-11 04:31 PM |
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OMG! |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 05:07 PM |
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Info where to email |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 05:19 PM |
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My Letter |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 05:44 PM |
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Pavilion email isn't working |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 06:11 PM |
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Thank you, email sent |
pasto76 |
Jun-14-11 07:40 PM |
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The older I get, the more I hate magic thinkers. nt |
valerief |
Jun-14-11 06:01 PM |
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violation of the federal and state disabilities acts. |
madrchsod |
Jun-14-11 06:12 PM |
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If this isn't a "public accomodations" violation nothing is. |
JanMichael |
Jun-14-11 06:27 PM |
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I'm not surprised at this happening there... |
BadtotheboneBob |
Jun-14-11 06:44 PM |
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If we keep getting rid of our progressives, expect this to be the norm |
Taverner |
Jun-14-11 06:44 PM |
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after doing a bit more researching and thinking about this... |
madrchsod |
Jun-14-11 06:50 PM |
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. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 08:03 PM |
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It never changes. |
sulphurdunn |
Jun-14-11 07:19 PM |
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Sadly, that asshole pool worker is probably right that it is not against the law |
beyurslf |
Jun-14-11 07:26 PM |
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I'm a single women who is old |
femrap |
Jun-14-11 07:53 PM |
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What Does Rand Paul |
DallasNE |
Jun-14-11 08:47 PM |
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I'm still informationally challenged on this: How did they pool management |
JAnthony |
Jun-14-11 08:58 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Jun-14-11 09:06 PM |
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Thanks bigot from NJ |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 01:26 AM |
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Your tacit approval |
The Wizard |
Jun-15-11 04:00 AM |
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Ditto |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 05:23 AM |
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Christie was put in power by |
The Wizard |
Jun-15-11 02:02 PM |
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Don't worry, gay people. |
JackDragna |
Jun-14-11 09:08 PM |
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How did they know the men were gay? |
Joe the Revelator |
Jun-14-11 09:15 PM |
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"The Bible says so!" Really? People are still saying that? |
Anakin Skywalker |
Jun-14-11 09:19 PM |
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They can't sue on grounds of discrimination against the disabled? |
DinahMoeHum |
Jun-14-11 09:31 PM |
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Was chapter and verse given and quoted? If not, it's abuse of authority. |
Festivito |
Jun-14-11 10:03 PM |
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Developmentally disabled people, regardless of sexual orientation |
Ken Burch |
Jun-15-11 01:29 AM |
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You're right. I'm suggesting that his fall-back on the Bible indicates that he's not bright. |
Festivito |
Jun-16-11 07:40 AM |
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I don't actually remember anything in the Bible that says gay people aren't allowed to go swimming |
Ken Burch |
Jun-16-11 04:30 PM |
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Send them an email |
donheld |
Jun-14-11 10:04 PM |
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This shit is why I say many parts of the South are essentially Christo-Fascist theocracies. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-14-11 10:53 PM |
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I wish that city and county would lose all federal monies immediately |
pasto76 |
Jun-14-11 11:00 PM |
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. |
EFerrari |
Jun-14-11 11:09 PM |
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The Bible also calls for "modest dress" |
jmowreader |
Jun-14-11 11:15 PM |
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I'd say there are ample grounds for a BIG lawsuit |
DFW |
Jun-15-11 01:32 AM |
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Way to go Pavilion staff - to show the back side of Kentucky. |
gtar100 |
Jun-15-11 02:09 AM |
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How did they know they were gay? |
XanaDUer |
Jun-15-11 05:03 AM |
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See my comment in this post |
justiceischeap |
Jun-15-11 05:27 AM |
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Aw |
XanaDUer |
Jun-15-11 05:34 AM |
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So, when's the Congressional inquiry into Christian Extremism? |
paparush |
Jun-15-11 07:15 AM |
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Some Christians (term used loosely)... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-15-11 11:30 AM |
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Just when you think it can't get any worse. |
economistman |
Jun-16-11 10:41 AM |
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