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Tue Jun-14-11 07:29 AM
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| 5. Sadly, there are probably no legal grounds for a suit. |
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In most of the country, it is perfect legal to discriminate against LGBT people.
My boss can call me in this morning and fire me for it. My landlord could have thrown me out or refused to rent to me in the first place. Restaurants can refuse to seat me. Etc.
In most of the country, we have no legal protections.
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| -Gay Men Kicked Out of Public Pool in Kentucky and Official Cites 'The Bible' as Reason |
meegbear |
Jun-14-11 07:17 AM |
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i don't think you should stop at a protest. |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 07:19 AM |
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Sadly, there are probably no legal grounds for a suit. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 07:29 AM |
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WHat case law states that? |
treestar |
Jun-14-11 07:32 AM |
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In most places, LGBT people are not a protected class. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 07:35 AM |
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What about the federal case law? |
treestar |
Jun-15-11 06:22 PM |
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Umm... separation of church and state? (First Amendment) |
hlthe2b |
Jun-14-11 08:22 AM |
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When has legality EVER stopped a Christian from discriminating against GLBTs? n/t |
Occulus |
Jun-14-11 03:24 PM |
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These are what they call those "special rights" gay people enjoy. The special right to be ... |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 10:18 AM |
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yes. |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 10:21 AM |
#34 |
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So these men... |
road2000 |
Jun-14-11 04:59 PM |
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Assuming the pool is STATE owned and not local. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 05:09 PM |
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Yes. |
road2000 |
Jun-14-11 05:14 PM |
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To update the Map: Conn. just passed a gender identity anti-discrimination law. |
NutmegYankee |
Jun-14-11 06:32 PM |
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Thank You. n/t |
lupinella |
Jun-15-11 01:29 AM |
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I didn't know this. Thanks. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-15-11 11:24 AM |
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Most DUers are not aware of those facts. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-14-11 08:54 AM |
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Apparently gay DUers saying repeatedly that we don't have the same rights |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 08:59 AM |
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I weep every time I read about the hate |
Irishonly |
Jun-14-11 09:20 AM |
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Until the gay community is recognized as a minority class, you won't see many such lawsuits |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 09:43 AM |
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Being born 'gay' is no more a 'choice' than being born male or female, black or white. |
bjobotts |
Jun-14-11 04:25 PM |
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I love the Dan Savage choice test. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:08 PM |
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speaking for myself |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 10:19 AM |
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Willful ignorance is an artform in america. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:07 PM |
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+1 |
mike_c |
Jun-14-11 06:28 PM |
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But to discriminate against a citizen in a PUBLIC pool might be illegal, even if |
tblue37 |
Jun-14-11 11:49 AM |
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Nope. Unless there is a state or local civil rights law in effect, |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:23 PM |
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In some places cats have more rights. nt |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 02:27 PM |
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Some say that chickens have more rights in California than we do. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:39 PM |
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And The Same |
RobinA |
Jun-14-11 03:17 PM |
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I've yet to hear of a straight person being fired for being straight |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 03:30 PM |
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Well - cracker barrel is certainly aptly named, isn't it? n/t |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:09 PM |
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How about the fact that they are disabled? |
Zoeisright |
Jun-14-11 12:26 PM |
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They weren't thrown out for being developmentally disabled. n/t |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:21 PM |
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Actually it may not matter. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:11 PM |
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Does city or state law say that gay people can't use the pool? |
Deep13 |
Jun-14-11 06:22 PM |
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This is dangerous ground so I have to walk carefully. How does anyone know someone else is gay? |
rhett o rick |
Jun-14-11 06:58 PM |
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According to a lifeguard, they were kissing, that's how they knew they were gay |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 08:12 PM |
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Thank you for your polite response. Better than the next responder. I am not asking anyone to deny |
rhett o rick |
Jun-14-11 10:50 PM |
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Your post makes no sense at all. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 10:29 PM |
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They can sue due to the fact a government official used the bible as grounds to kick them out |
Chisox08 |
Jun-14-11 08:22 PM |
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No. LGBT people are not a protected class under federal law, |
QC |
Jun-14-11 10:57 PM |
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Religion is a protected class. |
Deep13 |
Jun-16-11 10:39 AM |
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Sadly, no. |
Xithras |
Jun-15-11 11:16 AM |
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This is why I don't understand why marriage is the primary issue in the media. |
dorkulon |
Jun-14-11 08:46 PM |
#113 |
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Please, oh, Wise One! |
Creideiki |
Jun-15-11 06:55 AM |
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Yes, there are. They had other issues that can be used for an American w/ Disabilities Act claim. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jun-15-11 02:13 AM |
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+1 |
get the red out |
Jun-14-11 07:32 AM |
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The unemployment figures need to go up over this incident, |
MineralMan |
Jun-14-11 07:48 AM |
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They can't sue- the place broke no laws. |
Marrah_G |
Jun-14-11 08:24 AM |
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People genuinely find that hard to believe, God love 'em, but it is true. n/t |
QC |
Jun-14-11 08:27 AM |
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Only partially correct - the other side thinks that's exactly the way it should be |
BR_Parkway |
Jun-14-11 09:40 AM |
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i do find it extremely hard to believe |
barbtries |
Jun-14-11 10:13 AM |
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I agree. Drain these SOB's dry. n/t |
BulletproofLandshark |
Jun-14-11 03:26 PM |
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hmmm.... |
Roy Rolling |
Jun-14-11 09:01 PM |
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Is there a "Boycott Kentucky" campaign in place yet for the other anti-LGBT stuff? |
Ken Burch |
Jun-15-11 01:14 AM |
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Only if we can boycott your state, Alaska, for creating conditions where Sarah Palin could happen |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 05:27 AM |
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Actually, I'd be ok with people boycotting Alaska over that. |
Ken Burch |
Jun-15-11 04:38 PM |
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WTF? |
hobbit709 |
Jun-14-11 07:19 AM |
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WTFF? |
marmar |
Jun-14-11 07:25 AM |
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Oh for the love of Dog! |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 07:25 AM |
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"What kind of idiot makes a special needs person feel bad? " |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:13 PM |
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or some poor soul that goes to a "bible based church" ... |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 06:29 PM |
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As much as I hate this crap... |
Rebubula |
Jun-14-11 07:30 AM |
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i live in kyand have my whole life. and this |
blueknight |
Jun-14-11 07:45 AM |
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But at least KY makes good jelly |
jberryhill |
Jun-14-11 08:06 AM |
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You're right. |
LanternWaste |
Jun-14-11 08:25 AM |
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and then they kicked out all the shellfish eaters, and then the cheeseburger eaters |
KurtNYC |
Jun-14-11 07:52 AM |
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Oh, well played. |
Ignis |
Jun-14-11 12:53 PM |
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Thou Shalt Not Swim With Those Of Thy Sex? |
jberryhill |
Jun-14-11 07:58 AM |
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Gotta stop "the gay agenda" |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 08:07 AM |
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Touche |
RobinA |
Jun-14-11 03:22 PM |
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Noah, thou shalt build a vessel to fill with chlorinated water... |
JVS |
Jun-14-11 01:39 PM |
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From the Book of Recreations. |
jberryhill |
Jun-14-11 04:33 PM |
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Now you see Shria Law american style. Whatever happened to |
southernyankeebelle |
Jun-14-11 08:15 AM |
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... |
xchrom |
Jun-14-11 08:21 AM |
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recommend. |
Starry Messenger |
Jun-14-11 08:56 AM |
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What a shithole of a town, google map it and zoom in.. |
snooper2 |
Jun-14-11 09:04 AM |
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Hazard has always been poor although it has made .. |
Botany |
Jun-14-11 10:19 AM |
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Jun-15-11 01:10 AM |
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sorry if I offended your sensibilities...but there are a lot of shithole towns in this country |
snooper2 |
Jun-15-11 08:50 AM |
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What's the matter, so did you get my comment deleted? |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 10:58 AM |
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Harlem has it's shitty areas too, just like Dallas |
snooper2 |
Jun-15-11 11:33 AM |
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Well, I Hate to Agree With You, but I'm Not Much of a Ford Fan Either |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 04:00 PM |
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Well, I Hate to Agree With You, but I'm Not Much of a Ford Fan Either |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 04:00 PM |
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Does the article elaborate |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-14-11 09:45 AM |
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I was wondering the same thing??? |
onpatrol98 |
Jun-14-11 10:24 AM |
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The article doesn't say much of anything |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Jun-14-11 11:07 AM |
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true... |
onpatrol98 |
Jun-14-11 11:33 AM |
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I know - wtf? Were they blasting Judy Garland CD's on their |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-14-11 04:15 PM |
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Gays and their "Special Rights" |
Bandit |
Jun-14-11 10:23 AM |
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Disgusting and vile garbage that shames my home and faith |
TheKentuckian |
Jun-14-11 11:58 AM |
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A GOVERNMENT center kicked out two DISABLED men? |
Zoeisright |
Jun-14-11 12:25 PM |
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Read it again. |
Occulus |
Jun-14-11 03:29 PM |
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It doesn't matter why the religious nutbag said he did it. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jun-14-11 05:17 PM |
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Oh, I'll not argue they were disbaled, and were protected because of that. |
Occulus |
Jun-14-11 06:15 PM |
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Yes, Let's allow Religious Nutcases to Determine Law |
fascisthunter |
Jun-14-11 12:27 PM |
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I found another article that sheds a little more light on this story |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 12:39 PM |
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Jun-14-11 01:00 PM |
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I HATE that we always seem to have to qualify that |
justiceischeap |
Jun-14-11 01:26 PM |
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Yes, I live in a beach town, so I get to see lots and lots of public dry-humping. |
QC |
Jun-14-11 02:23 PM |
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"Breeders?" Bigotry's a two-way street. |
DirkGently |
Jun-14-11 04:30 PM |
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Actually |
kurtzapril4 |
Jun-14-11 05:07 PM |
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Even So...... |
Mopar151 |
Jun-14-11 05:21 PM |
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The Bible? Reminds me of the scene from Kingpin where... |
JVS |
Jun-14-11 01:28 PM |
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i would NEVER have left that pool. they would have carried me out. |
spanone |
Jun-14-11 01:29 PM |
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I encountered a lot of people in Texas and elsewhere that |
demigoddess |
Jun-14-11 02:20 PM |
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Yeah, I was told my son was autistic because I wasn't raising him |
Ilsa |
Jun-14-11 11:06 PM |
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How disgusting |
ismnotwasm |
Jun-14-11 02:27 PM |
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and forwarded to FFRF |
GillesDeleuze |
Jun-14-11 02:57 PM |
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1 Chlor. 7:23 |
KamaAina |
Jun-14-11 03:01 PM |
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Believe federal civil rights statute applies - religious discrimination. |
kiranon |
Jun-14-11 03:31 PM |
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That's just not the case. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 05:18 PM |
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nope religious discrimination means |
dsc |
Jun-14-11 06:26 PM |
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Better to plan the lawsuit. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-14-11 03:33 PM |
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Guess they're printing waterproof Bibles now... |
KansDem |
Jun-14-11 03:35 PM |
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God is love! |
Bluebear |
Jun-14-11 03:50 PM |
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That is first class biblical douchebaggery. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-14-11 04:09 PM |
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. |
fishwax |
Jun-14-11 04:22 PM |
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disgusting |
neverforget |
Jun-14-11 04:31 PM |
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OMG! |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 05:07 PM |
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Info where to email |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 05:19 PM |
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My Letter |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 05:44 PM |
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Pavilion email isn't working |
IGoToDU |
Jun-14-11 06:11 PM |
#93 |
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Thank you, email sent |
pasto76 |
Jun-14-11 07:40 PM |
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The older I get, the more I hate magic thinkers. nt |
valerief |
Jun-14-11 06:01 PM |
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violation of the federal and state disabilities acts. |
madrchsod |
Jun-14-11 06:12 PM |
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If this isn't a "public accomodations" violation nothing is. |
JanMichael |
Jun-14-11 06:27 PM |
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I'm not surprised at this happening there... |
BadtotheboneBob |
Jun-14-11 06:44 PM |
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If we keep getting rid of our progressives, expect this to be the norm |
Taverner |
Jun-14-11 06:44 PM |
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after doing a bit more researching and thinking about this... |
madrchsod |
Jun-14-11 06:50 PM |
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. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Jun-14-11 08:03 PM |
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It never changes. |
sulphurdunn |
Jun-14-11 07:19 PM |
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Sadly, that asshole pool worker is probably right that it is not against the law |
beyurslf |
Jun-14-11 07:26 PM |
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I'm a single women who is old |
femrap |
Jun-14-11 07:53 PM |
#109 |
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What Does Rand Paul |
DallasNE |
Jun-14-11 08:47 PM |
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I'm still informationally challenged on this: How did they pool management |
JAnthony |
Jun-14-11 08:58 PM |
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Jun-14-11 09:06 PM |
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Thanks bigot from NJ |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 01:26 AM |
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Your tacit approval |
The Wizard |
Jun-15-11 04:00 AM |
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Ditto |
StevesRedLens |
Jun-15-11 05:23 AM |
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Christie was put in power by |
The Wizard |
Jun-15-11 02:02 PM |
#154 |
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Don't worry, gay people. |
JackDragna |
Jun-14-11 09:08 PM |
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How did they know the men were gay? |
Joe the Revelator |
Jun-14-11 09:15 PM |
#119 |
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"The Bible says so!" Really? People are still saying that? |
Anakin Skywalker |
Jun-14-11 09:19 PM |
#120 |
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They can't sue on grounds of discrimination against the disabled? |
DinahMoeHum |
Jun-14-11 09:31 PM |
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Was chapter and verse given and quoted? If not, it's abuse of authority. |
Festivito |
Jun-14-11 10:03 PM |
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Developmentally disabled people, regardless of sexual orientation |
Ken Burch |
Jun-15-11 01:29 AM |
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You're right. I'm suggesting that his fall-back on the Bible indicates that he's not bright. |
Festivito |
Jun-16-11 07:40 AM |
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I don't actually remember anything in the Bible that says gay people aren't allowed to go swimming |
Ken Burch |
Jun-16-11 04:30 PM |
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Send them an email |
donheld |
Jun-14-11 10:04 PM |
#123 |
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This shit is why I say many parts of the South are essentially Christo-Fascist theocracies. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-14-11 10:53 PM |
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I wish that city and county would lose all federal monies immediately |
pasto76 |
Jun-14-11 11:00 PM |
#128 |
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. |
EFerrari |
Jun-14-11 11:09 PM |
#130 |
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The Bible also calls for "modest dress" |
jmowreader |
Jun-14-11 11:15 PM |
#131 |
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I'd say there are ample grounds for a BIG lawsuit |
DFW |
Jun-15-11 01:32 AM |
#137 |
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Way to go Pavilion staff - to show the back side of Kentucky. |
gtar100 |
Jun-15-11 02:09 AM |
#138 |
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How did they know they were gay? |
XanaDUer |
Jun-15-11 05:03 AM |
#141 |
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See my comment in this post |
justiceischeap |
Jun-15-11 05:27 AM |
#144 |
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Aw |
XanaDUer |
Jun-15-11 05:34 AM |
#145 |
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So, when's the Congressional inquiry into Christian Extremism? |
paparush |
Jun-15-11 07:15 AM |
#147 |
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Some Christians (term used loosely)... |
JuniperLea |
Jun-15-11 11:30 AM |
#152 |
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Just when you think it can't get any worse. |
economistman |
Jun-16-11 10:41 AM |
#161 |
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