You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #2: AFL-CIO: powerful people using the same old dirty tricks of division, diversion and distraction [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 08:22 PM
Response to Original message
2. AFL-CIO: powerful people using the same old dirty tricks of division, diversion and distraction
"The problem is that privileged and powerful people are using the same old dirty tricks of division, diversion and distraction to make people blame the least among us in order to keep us from seeing and solving our real problems.

Our wisest leaders have always understood that, here in America, on these shores, we must not fall for hate and fear and divisivenesswe must stand together for justice, unity and opportunity.

Immigrants are not the cause of Americas problems, Trumka said. And S.B. 1070 is not the answer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -Poor Americans vs Poor Mexicans: No Human-Being is Illegal personman  Jun-12-11 07:43 PM   #0 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Jun-12-11 08:13 PM   #1 
  - AFL-CIO: powerful people using the same old dirty tricks of division, diversion and distraction  pampango   Jun-12-11 08:22 PM   #2 
  - Yay! Race to the bottom! Last one surviving on what you can dig out of the garbage is a rotten egg!  Edweird   Jun-12-11 08:42 PM   #3 
  - Blaming powerless people for your powerlessness isn't a solution. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-12-11 08:48 PM   #5 
     - It's not a solution but it's a useful technique for those in power.  Spider Jerusalem   Jun-12-11 09:08 PM   #9 
     - Exactly. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-12-11 09:12 PM   #10 
     - Illegal immigration has dramtically suppressed wages in labor jobs. That's working out SO WELL  Edweird   Jun-12-11 10:12 PM   #14 
        - Mexicans didn't pass NAFTA. No, it's not BS.  EFerrari   Jun-12-11 10:28 PM   #16 
        - Were there no illegal immigrants prior to NAFTA?  Starbucks Anarchist   Jun-13-11 05:46 PM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-12-11 10:54 PM   #18 
           - Reductio ad Hitlerum  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 07:29 PM   #28 
              - Please, he is blaming an awful lot on immigrants...  personman   Jun-13-11 07:34 PM   #31 
                 - Right right  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 07:36 PM   #33 
                 - My views aren't limited to the US.  personman   Jun-14-11 06:47 PM   #50 
                    - Ok, so you are internationally delusional  WatsonT   Jun-14-11 09:31 PM   #53 
                       - Am I rational or delusional? I'm open to opinions. nt  personman   Jun-14-11 10:28 PM   #61 
                          - Delusional if you think opening our borders would be anything other than disastrous  WatsonT   Jun-15-11 08:53 AM   #63 
                 - You know who else didn't have much respect for the borders of other countries?  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 07:39 PM   #34 
                 - Never mentioned Hitler.  personman   Jun-14-11 06:14 PM   #47 
                    - And you don't realize why comparing our illegal immigrant opposition  WatsonT   Jun-14-11 09:31 PM   #52 
                       - Opposing illegal immigration is one thing, blaming societies problems on them, another, nt  personman   Jun-14-11 10:16 PM   #60 
                          - Wonderfully and succinctly put.  pampango   Jun-15-11 09:57 AM   #64 
                          - And who is blaming all our problems on illegals?  WatsonT   Jun-15-11 09:12 PM   #66 
                             - Post #14:  personman   Jun-16-11 08:03 PM   #67 
                 - I love you. XD nt  sudopod   Jun-14-11 09:54 PM   #55 
                    - I love you too! Hug brother! nt  personman   Jun-14-11 10:02 PM   #59 
  - Correct undocumented immigrants are not illegal  Philippine expat   Jun-12-11 08:46 PM   #4 
  - My thoughts on illegality from another thread:  personman   Jun-12-11 09:23 PM   #13 
     - Couldn't that logic be used to oppose any law?  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 07:34 PM   #30 
     - Then you work to get the law changed  Philippine expat   Jun-13-11 08:03 PM   #39 
        - Unjust laws are made to be broken.  personman   Jun-14-11 06:49 PM   #51 
  - No human being is illegal but they can do illegal things, like commit  Synicus Maximus   Jun-12-11 08:48 PM   #6 
  - Or stealing a dinner roll from a restaurant because they are starving and have no money  RB TexLa   Jun-14-11 06:32 PM   #49 
     - Or robbing and shooting a 7/11 clerk because they are "starving and have no money"  Cid_B   Jun-14-11 09:58 PM   #57 
        - No, not really. There are levels of crime, the law actually recognizes that  RB TexLa   Jun-14-11 10:01 PM   #58 
  - Yes. Exactly.  hunter   Jun-12-11 08:56 PM   #7 
  - so opening the borders is gonna empower poor people?  hfojvt   Jun-12-11 08:57 PM   #8 
  - +1  emilyg   Jun-12-11 09:14 PM   #11 
  - Until we get rid of NAFTA and CAFTA, those people will keep coming  EFerrari   Jun-12-11 09:22 PM   #12 
  - +2 n/t  OhioChick   Jun-12-11 10:14 PM   #15 
  - In combination with worker organization, yes.  personman   Jun-12-11 10:45 PM   #17 
  - I love how the same people who lament outsourcing  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 07:30 PM   #29 
  - Kicking nt  personman   Jun-13-11 05:44 PM   #19 
  - K&R  me b zola   Jun-13-11 05:48 PM   #21 
  - Unfortunately I believe I've been voted down to oblivion, but I appreciate the gesture. nt  personman   Jun-13-11 06:12 PM   #22 
     - Pretty sad  me b zola   Jun-15-11 03:42 PM   #65 
  - It is true that human beings are not illegal, but it is also true that there  Obamanaut   Jun-13-11 06:13 PM   #23 
  - Please see post 13 for my thoughts on legality. nt  personman   Jun-13-11 06:16 PM   #24 
     - OK. It is true that things change over time. It is also true that so far, the  Obamanaut   Jun-13-11 06:37 PM   #25 
  - "No human being is Illegal"  FLPanhandle   Jun-13-11 06:47 PM   #26 
  - Wow. It's like you keep posting for me on this subject.  Shagbark Hickory   Jun-14-11 06:17 PM   #48 
  - The unreccers are out  laylah   Jun-13-11 06:48 PM   #27 
  - I suppose you then support unrestricted immigration  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 07:35 PM   #32 
  - You are a GLARING  laylah   Jun-13-11 08:09 PM   #40 
  - 1) I responded to the OP, not you  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 08:13 PM   #41 
     - I am now truly  laylah   Jun-13-11 08:17 PM   #42 
     - Though I will say THIS...  laylah   Jun-13-11 08:22 PM   #43 
        - A friendly debating tone like:  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 08:24 PM   #44 
  - Appeal to tradition:  personman   Jun-14-11 02:48 PM   #46 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-14-11 09:32 PM   #54 
  - Unregulated immigration...  MellowDem   Jun-13-11 07:45 PM   #35 
  - Shhh . . .  WatsonT   Jun-13-11 08:00 PM   #36 
  - +1  onpatrol98   Jun-13-11 08:01 PM   #37 
  - They're not undocumented. They have documents up the ass, just not legal ones. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-13-11 08:03 PM   #38 
  - Try to go to Mexico and get a job without document ion  Synicus Maximus   Jun-13-11 08:32 PM   #45 
  - Implying poor Mexicans have any control over their government. nt  sudopod   Jun-14-11 09:55 PM   #56 
  - On one hand, I agree that the poor in the US have more in common with the poor in Mexico than our  aikoaiko   Jun-14-11 10:28 PM   #62 

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC