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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:58 PM
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119. Piercing is not amputation. Lower ear lobes don't contain nerves. Piercing is reversible.
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  -Actor Russell Crowe rants against circumcision on Twitter bemildred  Jun-10-11 10:23 AM   #0 
  - ...  VenusRising   Jun-10-11 10:24 AM   #1 
  - Correction: Actor Russell Crowe Raises Principled Critique of Male Genital Mutilation on Twitter  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:22 PM   #87 
  - good for him standing up for perfection of babies, otherwise, issue does not pertain to me. nt  seabeyond   Jun-10-11 10:25 AM   #2 
  - You have no skin in the game? n/t  Ian David   Jun-10-11 10:27 AM   #7 
  - lol. not this one. nt  seabeyond   Jun-10-11 10:29 AM   #10 
  - WTH?  Macoy   Jun-11-11 10:33 AM   #148 
  - Good for Him!  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 10:25 AM   #3 
  - "no need" - correct; unless parents don't want to do their jobs and  closeupready   Jun-10-11 10:27 AM   #9 
  - I went through it and learned  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 10:32 AM   #13 
  - Having had several friends & relatives successfully raise uncirc'd boys  Warren DeMontague   Jun-10-11 01:39 PM   #61 
     - And yet, vague references to "hygiene issues" always come up.  closeupready   Jun-10-11 02:03 PM   #75 
        - I think it's because it's a practice in search of a justification, honestly.  Warren DeMontague   Jun-10-11 02:08 PM   #77 
  - There is no need to pierce a baby girl's ears either  RZM   Jun-10-11 10:31 AM   #12 
  - ears are visible to everyone and do NOT hurt as much when pierced  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 10:34 AM   #14 
  - I can't comment on how much ear piercing hurts  RZM   Jun-10-11 10:45 AM   #16 
  - because you are comparing genitalia to ears  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 11:01 AM   #22 
     - Same thing with not eating pork  RZM   Jun-10-11 11:16 AM   #26 
        - um... no where in my post did I say religious people  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 12:14 PM   #38 
           - I'm sure you are aware that Jews circumcise their children  RZM   Jun-10-11 12:27 PM   #43 
              - once again.... did I say religious people have to do anything?  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 12:46 PM   #46 
              - Maybe I'm confused on your position  RZM   Jun-10-11 12:58 PM   #47 
                 - ahhh, I see now... oh hell no  fascisthunter   Jun-10-11 01:24 PM   #50 
              - Actually, "Jews" do not circumcise their children.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:38 PM   #93 
  - Lower earlobes lack nerve endings. Piercing is not removal. Piercing is reversible.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 05:55 PM   #118 
  - True, there isn't. nt  Deep13   Jun-10-11 10:49 AM   #20 
  - Piercing is not amputation. Lower ear lobes don't contain nerves. Piercing is reversible.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 05:58 PM   #119 
     - True, although I have not checked on whether or not lower ear lobes have nerves.  Deep13   Jun-11-11 01:02 PM   #149 
        - Minimal, as you know.  JackRiddler   Jun-11-11 01:19 PM   #151 
           - I wasn't drawing the comparison.  Deep13   Jun-11-11 08:42 PM   #153 
  - Many of us like our ears pierced and keep them  Cleita   Jun-10-11 01:38 PM   #60 
     - Ear piercing should also be a choice made by the person getting it done.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 03:53 PM   #102 
        - My ears were pierced as a baby because that's what  Cleita   Jun-10-11 05:06 PM   #112 
           - I think you should have the choice.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 05:19 PM   #116 
              - In my case there was no dress code. Other children  Cleita   Jun-10-11 07:30 PM   #123 
                 - No, the holes don't close up. After not wearing earrings for 52 years,  tblue37   Jun-11-11 12:29 AM   #134 
                    - I don't believe that. Everyone I knew who hadn't worn  Cleita   Jun-11-11 10:25 AM   #146 
  - Unless we want to lower HIV transmission rates  Recursion   Jun-10-11 11:18 AM   #28 
     - I bet condom useage dwarfs that, though.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 11:33 AM   #31 
     - Unfortunately penis use dwarfs condom use  RZM   Jun-10-11 11:43 AM   #34 
     - Hard to feel sympathy then.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 12:17 PM   #40 
        - I certainly agree for those in societies like ours  RZM   Jun-10-11 01:02 PM   #48 
        - Yeah and in those same countries  laundry_queen   Jun-10-11 01:43 PM   #67 
        - Not a matter of sympathy for an individual. HIV infection is a public health issue.  yellowcanine   Jun-10-11 01:36 PM   #58 
        - On STDs and sympathy.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 01:43 PM   #66 
           - No you miss the point. It is a public health issue. When individuals get stds it is bad for  yellowcanine   Jun-10-11 01:49 PM   #71 
           - There is no doubt it is bad for society in general.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 01:59 PM   #73 
           - And people are infected through non-consensual sex  Recursion   Jun-10-11 02:28 PM   #80 
              - Transmissibility  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 03:37 PM   #92 
                 - A male who has not been infected cannot spread the virus (nt)  Recursion   Jun-11-11 12:15 AM   #133 
        - I don't reserve my sympathy for only those who do everything right... would be a short list.  personman   Jun-10-11 01:51 PM   #72 
           - I'm very sympathetic to people who contract aids via a failed condom.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 02:02 PM   #74 
              - Condoms aside... Sometimes people do stupid shit.  personman   Jun-10-11 02:45 PM   #83 
                 - Yes they do. Hard to feel sorry for willful stupidity though.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 02:56 PM   #84 
                    - At least you say "hard to feel sympathy" rather than "feel no sympathy"  personman   Jun-10-11 04:14 PM   #104 
                       - On deserving.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 04:35 PM   #105 
     - Guess what? Abstinence works even better than condoms.  Recursion   Jun-10-11 02:29 PM   #81 
        - It does indeed.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 03:47 PM   #97 
     - I'm sure no one wopuld want to stop you from removing your OWN foreskin, as an adult  Warren DeMontague   Jun-10-11 01:40 PM   #62 
     - This is propaganda, based on embarrassingly unscientific studies.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:30 PM   #89 
  - Russell Crowe is Mel Gibson lite. nt  onehandle   Jun-10-11 10:25 AM   #4 
  - lol  quinnox   Jun-10-11 10:29 AM   #11 
  - I agree that it is barbaric, but not that it's stupid. It's genital mutilation.  closeupready   Jun-10-11 10:26 AM   #5 
  - Babies are perfect...  trumad   Jun-10-11 10:26 AM   #6 
  - So did anyone see what he said about  pipi_k   Jun-10-11 10:27 AM   #8 
  - Yet female circumcision is reason to be "Up in Arms"  FreakinDJ   Jun-10-11 10:42 AM   #15 
  - Ok I thought about it  RZM   Jun-10-11 10:47 AM   #18 
  - So why do women "Elect" to have "Clitoral Plastic Surgury"  FreakinDJ   Jun-10-11 11:03 AM   #23 
     - While peps can argue the finer points of plas.surg., surgery isn't meant to make...  DRoseDARs   Jun-10-11 02:44 PM   #82 
  - There's really no comparison.  Deep13   Jun-10-11 10:48 AM   #19 
     - Male circumcision (genital mutilation) does damage.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:35 PM   #90 
  - I don't disagree with his conclusion...  Deep13   Jun-10-11 10:45 AM   #17 
  - Yeah, but where does he stand on pierced ears?  Iggo   Jun-10-11 10:52 AM   #21 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-10-11 11:03 AM   #24 
  - Who is Russell Crowe? Does he have any training on public health issues? Why care what he thinks?  struggle4progress   Jun-10-11 11:04 AM   #25 
  - Male circumcision substantially reduces HIV transmission rates  Recursion   Jun-10-11 11:17 AM   #27 
  - See my post right below yours! Yes, it is a big decline in risk., for other STDs too.  anneboleyn   Jun-10-11 11:33 AM   #30 
  - So does comprehensive sex education.  Kitsune   Jun-10-11 11:44 AM   #35 
  - So does condoms.  Lucian   Jun-10-11 01:28 PM   #52 
  - Hey, abstinence works even better than condoms!  Recursion   Jun-10-11 02:27 PM   #79 
     - So an irreversible removal of a body part is the same as handing out condoms?  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 05:51 PM   #117 
  - you could reduce rates even more by removing the whole thing  Warren DeMontague   Jun-10-11 01:42 PM   #65 
  - Studies have shown that being cut reduces a man's chance of catching STDs, like HIV. I personally  anneboleyn   Jun-10-11 11:31 AM   #29 
  - I don't really understand why  closeupready   Jun-10-11 12:27 PM   #44 
  - It doesn't have anything to do with the issue at large. I was just talking about myself  anneboleyn   Jun-10-11 03:44 PM   #96 
     - Okay, I see your point; I don't agree, however. I think we'll just have to ATD.  closeupready   Jun-10-11 04:13 PM   #103 
  - Yeah, condoms do the same thing.  Lucian   Jun-10-11 01:30 PM   #54 
  - my german husband's penis does not look like a  Amaya   Jun-10-11 01:41 PM   #64 
  - Ew, sorry, women like that...yuck.  krabigirl   Jun-10-11 03:52 PM   #100 
  - I agree about the appearance issue.  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 04:47 PM   #109 
  - Whats there to get excited about  Hutzpa   Jun-10-11 11:35 AM   #32 
  - We did not circumcise our son.  Atypical Liberal   Jun-10-11 11:42 AM   #33 
  - +1. If it's that important, let the boy/man decide when he's able.  Ignis   Jun-10-11 12:27 PM   #42 
     - ouch  B Calm   Jun-11-11 05:54 AM   #138 
  - Most European men are not cut. Do they have higher HIV rates?  mainer   Jun-10-11 11:46 AM   #36 
  - +1  closeupready   Jun-10-11 12:30 PM   #45 
  - Indeed, this is a very good point to bring up  Harmony Blue   Jun-10-11 01:41 PM   #63 
  - Not just HIV, other stds also. Education is fine but it often doesn't work.  yellowcanine   Jun-10-11 01:43 PM   #68 
  - I guess 'ol turnip-dick is entitled to his opinion.  Blue-Jay   Jun-10-11 11:46 AM   #37 
  - Actor opinion = 0  ileus   Jun-10-11 12:17 PM   #39 
  - Ad hominem attack = 0.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 06:14 PM   #120 
  - Is this the Russell Crowe who throws phones at hotel staff?  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jun-10-11 12:24 PM   #41 
  - So someone makes a big noise about Gawd's Perfection  Codeine   Jun-10-11 01:06 PM   #49 
  - This just in: Slow news day GD nt  WolverineDG   Jun-10-11 01:26 PM   #51 
  - What do you mean? It's all wiener all the time.  Paulie   Jun-11-11 09:52 AM   #145 
  - I think uncut ones look better anyways.  Lucian   Jun-10-11 01:30 PM   #53 
  - And good for you but how it looks to someone isn't a reason either way, right?  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:43 PM   #95 
  - I have to admit, I'm not that thrilled about circumcision on Twitter, either.  mikeytherat   Jun-10-11 01:31 PM   #55 
  - I love him as an actor.  Forkboy   Jun-10-11 01:31 PM   #56 
  - Obviously Russell Crowe has never spent much time in a neonatal icu.  yellowcanine   Jun-10-11 01:34 PM   #57 
  - This subject aside, doctors "correct God" every day.  WinkyDink   Jun-10-11 01:37 PM   #59 
  - Yes, see my reference above to neonatal ICUs.  yellowcanine   Jun-10-11 01:45 PM   #69 
  - If that's supposed to be an objection, it's pretty rinky dink.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:19 PM   #85 
  - He's Australian  laundry_queen   Jun-10-11 01:47 PM   #70 
  - Yet ANOTHER Anthony Weiner thread!  WinkyDink   Jun-10-11 02:05 PM   #76 
  - Well, we now know for sure he's circumcised.  rug   Jun-10-11 03:22 PM   #88 
  - Hmmm...  last_texas_dem   Jun-10-11 02:12 PM   #78 
  - A 12 or 13 year old child CAN make such a choice--but a newborn baby cannot.  tblue37   Jun-11-11 12:35 AM   #135 
     - Not exactly...  last_texas_dem   Jun-11-11 08:50 PM   #154 
  - good for him. I agree.  Whisp   Jun-10-11 03:21 PM   #86 
  - The only 2 guys that I know who admitted to not being  zalinda   Jun-10-11 03:37 PM   #91 
  - This is not a sample of anything other than two stories you heard, zalinda.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 03:42 PM   #94 
  - It just so happens that there are many women  zalinda   Jun-10-11 04:42 PM   #106 
     - Do note that your example with breast surgery is of adults who choose the preventive procedure.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 04:51 PM   #111 
  - My husband's uncut father dealt with odor problems and infections according to his mother  anneboleyn   Jun-10-11 03:49 PM   #98 
  - I guess you don't realize that much of the rest of the world are uncut and are fine.  krabigirl   Jun-10-11 03:50 PM   #99 
  - Yep. I've known three (who admitted it) and ALL of them  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 04:48 PM   #110 
     - So you're saying not being mutilated should be a source of shame?  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 05:16 PM   #114 
     - No.  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 07:27 PM   #122 
     - Love anecdotes  laundry_queen   Jun-10-11 08:19 PM   #128 
        - It mattered to these guys.  itsallhappening   Jun-11-11 07:03 AM   #141 
  - Good for him. To each their own but I think it is barbaric. We didn't circa our son.  krabigirl   Jun-10-11 03:52 PM   #101 
  - He should look into the health benefits.  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 04:45 PM   #107 
  - Yeah, two billion men are "extremely angry" about not being circumcised.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 05:18 PM   #115 
     - I didn't say all. I said the outspoken ones.  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 07:25 PM   #121 
        - Who the hell else would be talking about it?  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 07:31 PM   #124 
           - Again, I'm talking about my experience.  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 07:33 PM   #125 
           - This is not about any one person's "experience," and you need to realize that.  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 07:40 PM   #126 
              - Sure it is. You know that.  itsallhappening   Jun-10-11 07:45 PM   #127 
                 - A good topic in a psychological course...  JackRiddler   Jun-10-11 11:36 PM   #129 
                    - It seems so shallow somehow, like only wanting women with big tits. nt  bemildred   Jun-11-11 12:03 AM   #132 
                    - Not really like that at all.  itsallhappening   Jun-11-11 07:05 AM   #142 
                    - I doubt it's a minority.  itsallhappening   Jun-11-11 07:01 AM   #140 
                       - the world, Majority of men uncircumcised in.  JackRiddler   Jun-11-11 09:10 AM   #143 
                          - How are women conditioned to prefer one over the other?  itsallhappening   Jun-11-11 03:30 PM   #152 
           - Because most of us aren't angry.  JoeyT   Jun-11-11 05:43 AM   #137 
              - Thank you!  itsallhappening   Jun-11-11 06:59 AM   #139 
              - Well you'll never know for sure (if I've understood you correctly).  JackRiddler   Jun-11-11 09:14 AM   #144 
  - Thanks for the tip Russell  Stevenmarc   Jun-10-11 04:46 PM   #108 
  - this thread is useless without Twitter pics  Enrique   Jun-10-11 05:08 PM   #113 
  - K. nt  bemildred   Jun-10-11 11:37 PM   #130 
  - Jesus, what is this, National Penis Week?  nolabear   Jun-10-11 11:58 PM   #131 
  - When, in God's name, will it be National Vagina Week is what I wanna know!  Poll_Blind   Jun-11-11 12:37 AM   #136 
  - Didn't he end up apologizing for it?  queenjaneapprox   Jun-11-11 10:32 AM   #147 
     - No one can say anything anymore...  Darth_Kitten   Jun-11-11 01:09 PM   #150 

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